EPT[M][N] Unoriginal Name Mini Mafia
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slOosh
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slOosh
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slOosh
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On January 09 2016 10:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I believe the first thing mafia does here is to read the possible setups and see what roles they have in scum QT. Depending on if they have GF or Framer they can poe the setup down to two possibilities, right? Now GiygaS knows -- definitely, that there is a named VT in one of the setups, that is proven by the fact he talks about it. But the wording "vanilla town" instead of "named VT" is careless. I find it way more likely to come from a town -- because scum tend to carefully choose their wording when they talk about something specific, as miswording stuff makes you possibly being questioned about a "fuckup" (like we see here happening). So based on GiygaS post about if the named VT should claim or not, i think it far more likely it comes from a townie based on above. Hmm I see, makes sense. On January 09 2016 10:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Hi everyone! I'm town. In previous forum games I go too HAM for my own good and end up defending my early-reads for half the game so I'm going to try to keep it more toned-down here I want to lock-town rayn for his red bull joke but I do townread his more comic demeanor the last time I played with him he was a very aggressive mafia player. I like his reason for townreading gigyas too. I also feel pretty good about koshi being town I just like his style it seems very natural and honest which is difficult to replicate as mafia Hello there GGTeMpLaR! Could I ask about your "defending my early-reads"? Do they tend to be scum or town or both? | ||
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slOosh
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On January 09 2016 11:11 GGTeMpLaR wrote: How is me going into further detail about my previous meta going to help you solve my alignment when I am intentionally going to be attempting to stray from it this game? Honestly the content was irrelevant, I just wanted to hear you talk more to get a sense of your general tone. | ||
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slOosh
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On January 09 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote: just sloosh's weird comments and nitpicking completely useless things and telling others to do the work He's struggling to create a filter most likely mafia Kind of a stretch don't you think? | ||
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slOosh
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GGTeMpLaR I also noticed his first post was kinda awkward, but I felt like he could very well be those townies that if you pressure they just ... react poorly? I'm not sure how to phrase it, but I don't think a direct pressure approach would work out. So I wanted him to post on something else to figure out if he is nervous b/c scum or nervous b/c newer player. Vayne ... I feel like he is reading me slightly more scum than someone reasonably could? Either that or his style of playing is very different to mine, almost like Oatsmaster or something if he is still around. No one else has too much for me. | ||
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slOosh
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On January 09 2016 12:32 Koshi wrote: You really look like mafia not knowing what read he should represent and then just give 17 possibilities to everything. Do you think I should have a stronger read on the players I mentioned / the ones I didn't? Can you provide one? | ||
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slOosh
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On January 09 2016 12:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so... I guess you asked me about GiygaS based on this post here: What makes you ask about GiygaS and not about any other reads of mine? I mean, why did you single out GiygaS over all the other people in this post? Also if you agree with my townread on GiygaS whay isn't he your townread atm? I asked specifically about GiygaS because I took his initial wording as more scum vibe. It's really awkward that a VT would say "vanilla town" and not differentiate that he is talking about the Named VT, and I think blue roles are somewhat unlikely to want to talk about role claiming and whatnot, which leaves perhaps a careless scum post. I don't agree with the conclusion of your townread but I understand it and find it logical. | ||
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slOosh
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On January 09 2016 12:39 Koshi wrote: Only the green would be townie. Adding the red makes it more mafia. I can see where you are coming from - I was merely giving my whole thinking process. The fact is I play (or at least I think I play) a more logical fashion, sometimes roundabout style. I was noting that some other playstyles hate this (and the player mentioned was just one that came to mind). | ||
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slOosh
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On January 09 2016 10:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I want to lock-town rayn for his red bull joke but I do townread his more comic demeanor the last time I played with him he was a very aggressive mafia player. I like his reason for townreading gigyas too. Why the "but"? "I town read rayn b/c his joke" and "scum rayn played very aggressively last time I played with him" are two points that work together. This makes it look like your post was doctored and you forgot to fix this part, since scum take lots of time to craft proper posts while town just post what's on their mind. Additionally, why the hesitation to vote me? On January 09 2016 13:08 VayneAuthority wrote: i suck at mafia but i have one of the best memories on this site. I remember playing mafia with sloosh. " he plays like oatsmaster" is so troll if he actually doesnt remember playing with me lol. Not like it was THAT long ago How is this a read? Do you have a single scum read outside of me? On January 09 2016 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah i like.. I remembered the game on top of my head, the game Ver hosted a couple of years ago (where i think was the last time i saw slOosh play scum) --Sicilian mafia style. There i felt like slOosh had really hard time giving any opinion on anything and didn't follow up on his posts at all, couldn't explain himself at all. Which was different from the game i played on with him later on where he was town. I felt the early activity, him explaining himself and seemingly trying to figure out things made way more sense from him as town. Then i went to the database and looked his latest games. He's actually "nowadays" way more aggressive than he has been before, as town. And as scum... well not that much, but he still provides thoughts and shit. I actually think your argument on him being scum is at least reasonable. Too early to tell imo, but yes, it makes sense. I strongly recommend that you go back and properly consider the context of those games. The town one was like, some super setup themed game with all power roles and like a day 1 mayor esque thing. Additionally, consider that in that very game, you scum read me hard for something, but it was through thorough explanation of my reasoning that we got on the same page. You know what I'm worth as town - so it's pure win win since you either help clear me so I can focus on finding scum or you just take the ezpz scum slOosh lynch when you feel like it. | ||
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slOosh
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So instead of parroting everyone else and adding nothing to discussion saying "hey I too find slOosh weird", point out an exact contradiction or some logical fallacy, or shut up and move on. | ||
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slOosh
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slOosh
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Why not vote with the post where you say I look like mafia? What is your opinion on Koshi? | ||
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slOosh
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Could I have your current read on GGTeMpLaR and Koshi? | ||
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slOosh
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On January 09 2016 12:57 Koshi wrote: ##vote: Nooniansoong I got reasons. But they are "terrible". I am also extremely tired so I can't promise I will remember them. But I think he might be biggest shot on mafia. You don't think the way that he exited thread is weird? He spends a good chunk of posts swaying rayn's town read of me, and when rayn comes around he leaves with this? | ||
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slOosh
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slOosh
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On January 09 2016 12:57 Koshi wrote: ##vote: Nooniansoong I got reasons. But they are "terrible". I am also extremely tired so I can't promise I will remember them. But I think he might be biggest shot on mafia. Scum read on me, leaves by voting someone else, stating vague reasons that are admittedly "terrible", and closing out with "I think he might be biggest shot on mafia". Join me. ##Vote: Koshi | ||
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slOosh
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I will wrap up my key points. Koshi spends half his posts talking about some setup fluff. Koshi spends the other half of his posts repeating the same post, telling me (his scum read), why I am scum, instead of telling others. Koshi leaves the thread by placing a vote on someone other than me, without giving reasons, and also claims that they are best chance of being mafia. Vote Koshi. | ||
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slOosh
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@GGTeMpLaR If it was self-apparent as to why you would lock someone town for a joke is wrong, then it highlights the fact that the "but" in your opening post seems out of place. I'm not saying that is a scum tell, I was saying that it looked funny. Perhaps I asked the wrong question and went in a roundabout way of doing it, but that's what I did. Right now I read GGTeMpLaR as more likely town for the confident demeanor and analysis of my approach. | ||
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