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[M][N] Unoriginal Name Mini Mafia

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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 29 2015 21:18 GMT
#12
/in
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 08 2016 23:07 GMT
#82
Howdy all, how are you guys on this fine Friday evening?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 00:56 GMT
#119
Hey rayn could you walk me through your GiygaS read?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 01:59 GMT
#125
On January 09 2016 10:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 09 2016 09:56 slOosh wrote:
Hey rayn could you walk me through your GiygaS read?

I believe the first thing mafia does here is to read the possible setups and see what roles they have in scum QT. Depending on if they have GF or Framer they can poe the setup down to two possibilities, right?

Now GiygaS knows -- definitely, that there is a named VT in one of the setups, that is proven by the fact he talks about it. But the wording "vanilla town" instead of "named VT" is careless. I find it way more likely to come from a town -- because scum tend to carefully choose their wording when they talk about something specific, as miswording stuff makes you possibly being questioned about a "fuckup" (like we see here happening).

So based on GiygaS post about if the named VT should claim or not, i think it far more likely it comes from a townie based on above.

Hmm I see, makes sense.

On January 09 2016 10:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Hi everyone! I'm town. In previous forum games I go too HAM for my own good and end up defending my early-reads for half the game so I'm going to try to keep it more toned-down here

I want to lock-town rayn for his red bull joke but I do townread his more comic demeanor the last time I played with him he was a very aggressive mafia player. I like his reason for townreading gigyas too.

I also feel pretty good about koshi being town I just like his style it seems very natural and honest which is difficult to replicate as mafia

Hello there GGTeMpLaR! Could I ask about your "defending my early-reads"? Do they tend to be scum or town or both?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 03:13 GMT
#146
On January 09 2016 11:11 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
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On January 09 2016 10:59 slOosh wrote:

On January 09 2016 10:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Hi everyone! I'm town. In previous forum games I go too HAM for my own good and end up defending my early-reads for half the game so I'm going to try to keep it more toned-down here

I want to lock-town rayn for his red bull joke but I do townread his more comic demeanor the last time I played with him he was a very aggressive mafia player. I like his reason for townreading gigyas too.

I also feel pretty good about koshi being town I just like his style it seems very natural and honest which is difficult to replicate as mafia

Hello there GGTeMpLaR! Could I ask about your "defending my early-reads"? Do they tend to be scum or town or both?


How is me going into further detail about my previous meta going to help you solve my alignment when I am intentionally going to be attempting to stray from it this game?

Honestly the content was irrelevant, I just wanted to hear you talk more to get a sense of your general tone.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 03:14 GMT
#147
On January 09 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
just sloosh's weird comments and nitpicking completely useless things and telling others to do the work

He's struggling to create a filter

most likely mafia

Kind of a stretch don't you think?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 03:25 GMT
#150
Hmm big things are you as strong town for picking up on similar things to me + more.

GGTeMpLaR I also noticed his first post was kinda awkward, but I felt like he could very well be those townies that if you pressure they just ... react poorly? I'm not sure how to phrase it, but I don't think a direct pressure approach would work out. So I wanted him to post on something else to figure out if he is nervous b/c scum or nervous b/c newer player.

Vayne ... I feel like he is reading me slightly more scum than someone reasonably could? Either that or his style of playing is very different to mine, almost like Oatsmaster or something if he is still around.

No one else has too much for me.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 03:35 GMT
#155
On January 09 2016 12:32 Koshi wrote:
You really look like mafia not knowing what read he should represent and then just give 17 possibilities to everything.

Do you think I should have a stronger read on the players I mentioned / the ones I didn't? Can you provide one?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 03:40 GMT
#157
On January 09 2016 12:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so... I guess you asked me about GiygaS based on this post here:
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On January 09 2016 09:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have tentative townreads on kush, mderg, GiygaS and maybe Koshi.

What makes you ask about GiygaS and not about any other reads of mine? I mean, why did you single out GiygaS over all the other people in this post? Also if you agree with my townread on GiygaS whay isn't he your townread atm?

I asked specifically about GiygaS because I took his initial wording as more scum vibe. It's really awkward that a VT would say "vanilla town" and not differentiate that he is talking about the Named VT, and I think blue roles are somewhat unlikely to want to talk about role claiming and whatnot, which leaves perhaps a careless scum post.

I don't agree with the conclusion of your townread but I understand it and find it logical.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 03:44 GMT
#159
On January 09 2016 12:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 12:35 slOosh wrote:
On January 09 2016 12:32 Koshi wrote:
You really look like mafia not knowing what read he should represent and then just give 17 possibilities to everything.

Do you think I should have a stronger read on the players I mentioned / the ones I didn't? Can you provide one?

Only the green would be townie. Adding the red makes it more mafia.
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On January 09 2016 12:25 slOosh wrote:
Vayne ... I feel like he is reading me slightly more scum than someone reasonably could? Either that or his style of playing is very different to mine, almost like Oatsmaster or something if he is still around.

I can see where you are coming from - I was merely giving my whole thinking process. The fact is I play (or at least I think I play) a more logical fashion, sometimes roundabout style. I was noting that some other playstyles hate this (and the player mentioned was just one that came to mind).
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 05:41 GMT
#190
Aight if people don't like the way I'm posting, I'll just cut the extra footage and post tl;drs.


On January 09 2016 10:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I want to lock-town rayn for his red bull joke but I do townread his more comic demeanor the last time I played with him he was a very aggressive mafia player. I like his reason for townreading gigyas too.

Why the "but"? "I town read rayn b/c his joke" and "scum rayn played very aggressively last time I played with him" are two points that work together. This makes it look like your post was doctored and you forgot to fix this part, since scum take lots of time to craft proper posts while town just post what's on their mind.

Additionally, why the hesitation to vote me?


On January 09 2016 13:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
i suck at mafia but i have one of the best memories on this site. I remember playing mafia with sloosh. " he plays like oatsmaster" is so troll if he actually doesnt remember playing with me lol. Not like it was THAT long ago

How is this a read? Do you have a single scum read outside of me?


On January 09 2016 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 09 2016 13:00 Koshi wrote:
On January 09 2016 12:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2016 12:54 Koshi wrote:
On January 09 2016 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi i don't think slOosh is scum.

sure. It is possible.

actually nevermind, i retract from the townread on him.
I totally misremembered what slOosh's scumplay looks like...

I agree that "Watch very closely" is a better status than "Don't think he is scum"

Yeah i like.. I remembered the game on top of my head, the game Ver hosted a couple of years ago (where i think was the last time i saw slOosh play scum) --Sicilian mafia style. There i felt like slOosh had really hard time giving any opinion on anything and didn't follow up on his posts at all, couldn't explain himself at all. Which was different from the game i played on with him later on where he was town. I felt the early activity, him explaining himself and seemingly trying to figure out things made way more sense from him as town.

Then i went to the database and looked his latest games. He's actually "nowadays" way more aggressive than he has been before, as town. And as scum... well not that much, but he still provides thoughts and shit.

I actually think your argument on him being scum is at least reasonable. Too early to tell imo, but yes, it makes sense.

I strongly recommend that you go back and properly consider the context of those games. The town one was like, some super setup themed game with all power roles and like a day 1 mayor esque thing. Additionally, consider that in that very game, you scum read me hard for something, but it was through thorough explanation of my reasoning that we got on the same page. You know what I'm worth as town - so it's pure win win since you either help clear me so I can focus on finding scum or you just take the ezpz scum slOosh lynch when you feel like it.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 05:43 GMT
#191
Like seriously, bring it on. If I'm scum, find something that I posted and force my reasoning behind it. Anyone who has actually played with me as scum know that I'm super timid and I have extreme difficulty posting since I can't actually back up statements with proper logic.

So instead of parroting everyone else and adding nothing to discussion saying "hey I too find slOosh weird", point out an exact contradiction or some logical fallacy, or shut up and move on.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 05:46 GMT
#192
GiygaS, thoughts on my interpretation of your "vanilla town" post (as opposed to rayns), and thoughts on the general town sentiment against me, esp. VayneAuthority?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 06:21 GMT
#194
What's wrong with locking him town for the joke?

Why not vote with the post where you say I look like mafia?

What is your opinion on Koshi?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 06:36 GMT
#196
For the record I was leaning scum on you for that post, unless you are referring to something else.

Could I have your current read on GGTeMpLaR and Koshi?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 06:43 GMT
#199
On January 09 2016 12:57 Koshi wrote:
##vote: Nooniansoong

I got reasons. But they are "terrible". I am also extremely tired so I can't promise I will remember them. But I think he might be biggest shot on mafia.

You don't think the way that he exited thread is weird? He spends a good chunk of posts swaying rayn's town read of me, and when rayn comes around he leaves with this?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 06:53 GMT
#203
I think there's more to it. If you had to guess what Koshi's read on me is (last time he posted), what would you say it is?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 07:07 GMT
#205
On January 09 2016 12:57 Koshi wrote:
##vote: Nooniansoong

I got reasons. But they are "terrible". I am also extremely tired so I can't promise I will remember them. But I think he might be biggest shot on mafia.

Scum read on me, leaves by voting someone else, stating vague reasons that are admittedly "terrible", and closing out with "I think he might be biggest shot on mafia".

Join me.
##Vote: Koshi
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 07:30 GMT
#206
Gonna go to sleep since no one wants to play with me right now.

I will wrap up my key points.

Koshi spends half his posts talking about some setup fluff.
Koshi spends the other half of his posts repeating the same post, telling me (his scum read), why I am scum, instead of telling others.
Koshi leaves the thread by placing a vote on someone other than me, without giving reasons, and also claims that they are best chance of being mafia.

Vote Koshi.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 09 2016 16:47 GMT
#276
Doing a brief catch up and answering some questions, let me know if I missed anything.

@GGTeMpLaR
If it was self-apparent as to why you would lock someone town for a joke is wrong, then it highlights the fact that the "but" in your opening post seems out of place.

I'm not saying that is a scum tell, I was saying that it looked funny. Perhaps I asked the wrong question and went in a roundabout way of doing it, but that's what I did.

Right now I read GGTeMpLaR as more likely town for the confident demeanor and analysis of my approach.
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