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On January 09 2016 08:17 Koshi wrote: I am going to try my hardest this game. Really super super hard. Why do you want to try hard this game? In your last two town games you opened with how you didn't want to try. | ||
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On January 09 2016 08:50 GiygaS wrote: Before I leave if there's a vanilla townie, should they claim? It would give us useful setup info and maybe confirm someone right? Are you suggesting all vts claim or just a few of them? | ||
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On January 09 2016 13:33 darthfoley wrote: Hi guys, just got back from The Revenant; it's badass if you're into the genre. A little long at times but Leo + Tom Hardy is great. Anyhow, excited to play some mafia. This is my first time playing on forums, although I have played a lot of irl mafia so a lot of stuff should transfer hopefully. Reading through the past 5 pages, so far I am getting a town read from rayne, He seems very logical so far in his thinking of Giygas and sloosh. I agree that Templar's opening was kinda awkward and confusing, but as an inexperienced player I feel where you're coming from. I do think it's strange that Templar talks in his opening post about "toning it down a bit" and then doesn't really contribute much, followed by a vote on sloosh. It seems like he's already deviating from the plan he set up an hour ago, leading me to have a scum read on him so far Explain how he's deviating from his plan, because I don't agree. | ||
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On January 09 2016 16:31 darthfoley wrote: Koshi trying to sway Rayne's town read on sloosh seems out of place to me, given that Sloosh has been a pretty active poster so far; it contradicts one of his first posts in the game. The Noonian vote would make more sense if we'd already gone passed some time for a low poster to be identified, so yea his reads have to be more than simply activity. You are misrepresenting koshis plan. Just because he doesn't want to lynch someone active why would that affect his reads? | ||
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On January 09 2016 23:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Noon any idea what is going on in Koshi's head voting you? Hmm I'm guessing it was the fact that I was posting in another game and ignoring this one. | ||
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Koshi null leaning town. Why would he open the opposite of his last two town games if he were scum? Usually people try to emulate their town games as scum. Gigyas no idea I'd have to filter, | ||
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On January 09 2016 13:28 GiygaS wrote: Eh, I'll take it with a grain of salt but I'd be lying if I said it won't affect my view on him looking forward. I like gigyas as town. Town read started here. This read here is nuanced when scums reads are more cut and dry. | ||
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On January 09 2016 13:08 VayneAuthority wrote: i suck at mafia but i have one of the best memories on this site. I remember playing mafia with sloosh. " he plays like oatsmaster" is so troll if he actually doesnt remember playing with me lol. Not like it was THAT long ago most games you do play like oatsmaster though. very little content, mostly one liners, hard to read. On January 09 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote: just sloosh's weird comments and nitpicking completely useless things and telling others to do the work He's struggling to create a filter most likely mafia This is enough to placeholder my vote on vayne. "weird comments" - it's scummy to call something weird "nitpicking completely useless things" - it didn't seem any more useless than what other people were talking about at the time "telling others to do work" - misconstruing asking questions as telling others to do work. "struggling to create a filter" - this is the kind of generic wording that comes from scum so often. Also I do not understand how someone can draw that conclusion from sloosh's filter. Plus vayne doubles as a plynch anyway so there's that. | ||
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On January 10 2016 01:12 Koshi wrote: Ok only on page 11. I see even more people are voting me. I like it. One of the things that I will not do 100% this game is call people names or capslock. I'll take the lynch with gratitude. If it happens. I would be surprised. Pleasantly even. But that's how i know you're town... | ||
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On January 10 2016 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why did you ask Koshi about the bolded part if you think it makes him town anyways? I like this thoughtful question from rayn. Actually I didn't know what to think of what koshi said in the moment I asked him about it. I thought to myself.. why would koshi open in the opposite way of his last two games? And I thought him answering my question might help me get a better idea of his motivation behind it. Koshi didn't give me a helpful answer, which in itself made me lean townie on him slightly because he didn't feel the need to satisfy me. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:18 VayneAuthority wrote: He is some one that needs a larger filter to read, lynching him day 1 would be useless/bad. especially since he can find scum if you give him time vayne what do you think about how i want to lynch you? | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:17 GiygaS wrote: I'll be on in a few hours, getting a bank account and phone for the US is taking longer than expected. After I'm done this ill probably be on for the rest of the weekend. Welcome to the greatest country in the world lol. | ||
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On January 10 2016 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem with the read is it doesn't make any sense based on what he said earlier: - He asks Koshi a question (indicating Koshi could be scum for that), here: I don't understand why would you EVER ask something from anyone unless you think the answer they give could make them mafia. - Here is what he says about Koshi's answer: So he comes to the conclusion Koshi's answer is leaning town. Okay, let's go to the reasoning why he comes to this conclusion, which is the post you pointed out: So summa summarium.... Noonian asks Koshi something that could indicate Koshi is mafia. Koshi gives him an answer that doesn't help him in any way, and he comes to the conclusion that it is a TOWNTELL?!?!? - so scumtell becomes a towntell because the guy doesn't reasonably explain himself. Another thing is this: This post is incredibly fishy because of the following: - He is voting for VayneAuthority as a placeholder - He is voting for VayneAuthority because he did something scummy - He is voting for VayneAuthority because he is a good policy lynch placeholder != scumread != policy lynch There is literally no way VayneAuthority is all that at the same time. Or like... ugh.. how to explain it.. He is making up reasons for voting for VA, since if you scumread someone as town you vote for them because you think they are scum, NOT because they are a "placeholder vote" or "policy lynch". Third point is that was basically all his filter. I'm confused on the first part what you aren't understanding about the progression of that read. 1. koshi's opening is different 2. i inquire about it 3. koshi gives idgaf answer which in itself is minorly townie 3. i think more about his opening, and figure it's minorly townie, entirely apart from the happenings of 2 and 3 Second point placeholder, plynch and scumlynch don't have to be mutually exclusive, especially early in the game when scumreads are weak. Why do thoes motivates behind voting have to be mutually exclusive? Third point - it's hard for me to get activity in on weekends. | ||
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On January 11 2016 05:30 GiygaS wrote: ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME. HE CALLED HIMSELF SCUMMY HOW DO YOU NOT LYNCH THAT explain like i'm done why that's self awareness is anything but null? | ||
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What agenda do you expect him to be pushing this early as mafia? | ||
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I can't understand most of his posts. His scum game is still fresh in my mind and his posts were a lot easier to follow. That's because his content this game is much closer to stream of thought. On January 11 2016 00:47 Tubesock wrote: I'm onboard for the Boxerfred or Kmatt lynch. VA is an ok enough lynch. He'd be number 4 though. Having a number 4 lynch on d1 is really townie. It shows a lot of thought is going into who might be scum. | ||
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On January 11 2016 06:19 nooniansoong wrote: id be happy to lynch boxerfred also. yo i get towncred for this right? | ||
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I voted. for vayne honestly i was pretty bummed that we lynched scum because now it's like damn i guess ill move right along im not needed here.. | ||
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On January 11 2016 09:56 Koshi wrote: meh. People still want to lynch dumb targets. Your reads have been good again this game. Nice. Just got to get rayn of your back. Dnu why he thinks you are mafia. i assume it's because i haven't done anything yet lol | ||
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On January 11 2016 09:55 darthfoley wrote: Wait yea lol no how could you get town cred for saying you'll vote for boxerfred and then forget to actually do it? i didn't forget ii just thought vayne had a better chance of being lynched | ||
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On January 11 2016 10:15 Tubesock wrote: I am curious to hear if there is a single one of you with a TR on me. So, you all think I am mafia. Boxerfred flipped Roleblocker. That means mafia preferred to save me instead of him. Which would be insanely dumb if I were goon. So, I would have the horrific bad luck to roll Godfather (framer possible) for the 4th game in a row. im not scumreading you but it wasn't necessarily mafia's choice which of you to kill. mafia could have had reads they didn't want to be inconsistent on mafia could have not been there EoD | ||
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On January 10 2016 15:50 Tubesock wrote: Koshi gave me weird scuzzies. It's different than scummies. With him I am still thinking about whether or not his opening and next few posts were him looking to see who will be willing to fight or him blue hunting. | ||
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On January 11 2016 19:09 Koshi wrote: My mafia team still consist of VA + scott. I could see tubesock be mafia, but I can also see him be town. I'll reread him once more later. All other people look very extremely town to me. If your mafiateam consists of all lynchbait it's probably wrong | ||
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I'm pretty sure it does. Lynch bait looks Scummy even when they're not. | ||
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Ill ask again what agenda do you expect scum vayne to push d1? A lot of indicators I prefer not to pay attention to like tone and filter size say you're town. So I would like someone familiar with your meta to say "rayn is never like this as scum!" or "rayn is capable of this as scum" Therefore I would like Koshi's opinion which he still hasn't given. And yes I am aware I lack content this game which will be remedied by the end of today. | ||
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On January 11 2016 22:27 Koshi wrote: He is town because he broke up the Tubesock wagon by voting you. Which made me move to boxerfred. We can argue that this argument is m00t if Tubesock is mafia, beacuse then rayn attempted to move everybody from Tube to you to save both his teammates. But really... Are we going there? Like even if Tubesock if mafia, he did it in a really bad way. Way too late. Other than that his filter is fine enough to townread anyway. So you are saying as scum he would have stayed on tubesock to save boxerfred. Yeah that is a good point. | ||
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On January 11 2016 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: kush. Why didn't you switch your vote? i would have if I was here for EoD. I saw the two as equivalent scumlynch/plynch combinations. When I left the game vayne had more votes. | ||
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On January 11 2016 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi, can you go read his filter and go read what his reasoning actually is? srsly... I hint you a little; "I think Tubesock is town because i don't understand his posting nad he has 4 scumreads"....  It wasn't that he had 4 scumreads. It was that he had FOURTH scumread. As in, he had ordered them. | ||
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On January 12 2016 02:48 Koshi wrote: Ofcourse you direct the vigi. Why wouldn't you? There is no RB. Hold on I'll think of something | ||
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but damn this one seems pretty imbalanced in favor of town: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Veteran, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon the framer becomes a bastard role cause there's no cop. | ||
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Mderg looking scummy. - pressure on darthfoley that goes no where - sheeped TS onto gigyas - jumped ship on gigyas when wagon looked like it was going to falter. He gave no reason except that he thought about it more. - left a scumlynch a the last second for me. Again without any reasoning, except my lack of content. On January 11 2016 07:53 mderg wrote: Well, kush is producing less content than the last game I've played with him. And even in that game he was not producing enough content for me. I can definitely see where you're coming from. But boxerfred had even less content then me so I don't buy this reason to switch off boxerfred. | ||
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On January 12 2016 04:24 Koshi wrote: Anybody got a recent mafia game from Giygas? I only got one from 2013 i've looked into this. giygas played a few games, took a long ass break, then recently started back up. So yes his last recorded mafia game was 2013. | ||
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On January 12 2016 03:35 Koshi wrote: what about the fact he was on boxerfred? He had to be on boxerfred at that time because giygas was no longer a viable lynch. Then as soon as he saw an opportunity to sheep rayn onto me he did. | ||
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why does that mean it wasn't opportunistic? | ||
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On January 12 2016 04:38 Koshi wrote: He didn't do it "as soon as he saw an opportunity". He just did it seconds before the lynch. If he was planning on moving off mafia, wouldn't he at least do it faster and try to actually not lynch his teammate? Or stay on mafia and get the towncred? I don't understand what makes it less scummy that he did it in the last second. I don't think he was planning anything. I think at the last second he was like "hmmm maybe i can actually save my scumbud" and switched. ive done it many times as scum. | ||
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On January 12 2016 04:47 mderg wrote: I wasn't voting you for lack of content. That played a big part in it but it was not what put you above boxerfred for the lynch. You two were practically the same to me, you probably even looked a bit better. But everybody seemed fine with the boxerfred lynch, so I thought it somehow had to be wrong by everyone you mean 3/12 people? | ||
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On January 12 2016 05:29 mderg wrote: About the last minute vote switch: Moving to a 2 vote wagon wouldn't really have made a difference. I couldn't have saved boxerfred myself and would have needed someone else to switch either way. Here you say it woulnd't have made a difference. | ||
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On January 12 2016 05:58 VayneAuthority wrote: I will write my quick thoughts incase I am vigged, don't want to invest too much time obviously when its super possible ill just die. The most likely mafia I can deduct from voting analysis and a follow up of his filter is darthfoley You will see that Tubesock was most likely the mafia mislynch of choice, kinda sure he is town. When the 2nd vote drops onto boxerfred, tubesock is sitting at 3 votes. starting to get close. then darthfoley goes ahead and votes for tubesock to make it a comfortable 4-2. But what you can't account for as mafia is a last second large swing like that resulting in boxer's lynch. It is a very suspicious and well timed vote on his part. Follow that up with gems like this from his filter See part 2, boxerfred literally has almost no filter besides 1 post. He hasn't looked through any of the less active posters but says boxerfred is a shining example of being holistic? Soft defense that you wouldn't technically even realize you are doing as a mafia partner. Now look through his voting pattern, he flip flops on me and tubesock at the slightest change of wind to try to appear as if he is mulling his options but really he doesnt care that either of us is lynched, they are both mislynches for him. Thread support was the only thing that ever swayed his opinion. Finally, this is more of tells for me instead of mafia play but his first page is a lot of feigning ignorance with mechanics of the game to generate filter and even tells us about stuff he is doing irl which I largely associate with mafia attempting to lighten mood/make them appear more likable. cya at deadline Maybe. Defense of darthfoley: First thing is his first game and he uses a lot of reasoning and explains his thought process in a way that I wouldn't expect a first game player to even come close to faking. Yes, a lot of his arguments are bad (scumread on koshi for starting discussion), but I think bad arguments like that commonly come from noobs. Changing your read a lot day 1 strikes me as a very townie thing to do. Scum pick a suspect then go with it. His reads show he is thinking about things and changing his mind based on the arguments people are presenting. And he mentioned boxerfred only because he was asked about him. scumvayne: This is the level of try hard I would expect from scumvayne on d2: the minimum necessary to look townie. He does a simple vca which is NAI. and then he does a very surface reading of darthfoley's filter and misrepresents him to look scummy. | ||
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On January 13 2016 03:49 slOosh wrote: Like, if we all agree that darthfoley is scum, then it seems like the right play to lynch him first. I think him flipping scum would be strong enough to exonerate Tubesock, despite the redcheck, given how D1 voting played out. Am I making sense? yeah except for the darthfoley being scum part | ||
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On January 09 2016 17:13 darthfoley wrote: For me, I am mainly am just confused as to why he's been reluctant to back off Sloosh after saying he wouldn't target active townspeople on day 1. Maybe he strictly means he won't vote for active townspeople but still target them in discussion, though his grilling of Sloosh followed by a pivot towards a poster with no history seems out of place and too random for my liking. He cites "terrible" reasons that he probably won't remember in the morning, which basically provides no information about anything at all. Why couldn't he include at least an outline of something relevant? like just read that.. scum can't fake a thought process like that. | ||
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On January 13 2016 03:53 Tubesock wrote: + Show Spoiler [tcred for boxer lynch] + This is an extremely easy way to gauge thread temperature. ya you got me i was judging thread temperature lol | ||
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On January 13 2016 04:00 Tubesock wrote: The problem I have with that is I think he's just not reading the thread and reaching for something. It was pretty clear to me what Koshi meant and what he was doing jived. how is he not reading the thread.. he talks about it in depth | ||
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whats your motivation here? | ||
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On January 13 2016 04:07 slOosh wrote: I dunno that post is weird because the timeline is actually Koshi & others thought slOosh was weird --> slOosh gets annoyed and gets more active --> Koshi backs off after seeing this Whereas darthfoley's interpretation is something like Koshi & others thought slOosh was weird (but still active) --> Koshi should be backing off but isn't the way i see it is darth think sloosh was active enough already when koshi started in on him and so koshi's pressure looked fake. then he didn't like the "pivot" koshi did to an inactive poster. It has nothing to do with the timeline you are presenting. I woudl be super super impressed with darthfoley was mafia, just because I never see mafia coming up with weird cases like. Tubesock as for your mafia abilities, I suspect you were towned for a megapost/tinfoil which is not what I'm basing my townread on here. | ||
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On January 13 2016 04:16 Tubesock wrote: Are you not townreading darth for indepth thinking about that event? My point is that can be faked. It wasn't my megapost/tinfoil that got me townread taht game, it was the later smaller post about his use of smiley emote in response to it that towned me. Much like how darth's post appears small but in depth. you cant compare this to a smiley emote. smiley emote is total bs that has nothign to do with anything. this has to do with the game and his argument is very understandable from his perspective. | ||
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hard. | ||
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i will but first tell me why you named yourself after that random ass book | ||
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So you didn't name yourself after the book The New Eden by Charles John Cutcliffe Wright Hyne written in 1892? | ||
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On January 15 2016 11:14 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Also Giygas, I wouldn't even out the cop check it's useless. how so | ||
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On January 15 2016 19:12 GiygaS wrote: Koshi you're green. I'm an idiot for checking you, I know. For real.... | ||
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On January 16 2016 02:15 Eden1892 wrote: Sorry I don't completely suck at mafia Just mostly suck so where's the 1892 from then? | ||
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On January 16 2016 04:55 Eden1892 wrote: Birthday Do you mind just confessing it'd really expedite things woh dude you're like 123 years old | ||
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um i want a response to this. how can you be that old? or did you just leave out the month and put year and day... | ||
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ANYONE THERE! Damn it's like im the only one playing this game. | ||
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why would i put time into a game that im going to get lynched from | ||
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