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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 01 2016 06:18 GMT
#19
/in
oh ya eden is the dude with the female sounding name.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 07 2016 23:59 GMT
#68
Koshi and Rayn are like mashed potatoes and gravy. I always see them together in games. They both get super emotional but Rayn uses logic and koshi uses feels.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 08 2016 18:00 GMT
#75
How many hours till this bitch starts?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 08 2016 23:37 GMT
#86
On January 09 2016 08:17 Koshi wrote:
I am going to try my hardest this game. Really super super hard.

Why do you want to try hard this game? In your last two town games you opened with how you didn't want to try.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 09 2016 00:04 GMT
#97
On January 09 2016 08:50 GiygaS wrote:
Before I leave if there's a vanilla townie, should they claim? It would give us useful setup info and maybe confirm someone right?


Are you suggesting all vts claim or just a few of them?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 09 2016 13:09 GMT
#249
On January 09 2016 13:33 darthfoley wrote:
Hi guys, just got back from The Revenant; it's badass if you're into the genre. A little long at times but Leo + Tom Hardy is great.

Anyhow, excited to play some mafia. This is my first time playing on forums, although I have played a lot of irl mafia so a lot of stuff should transfer hopefully.

Reading through the past 5 pages, so far I am getting a town read from rayne, He seems very logical so far in his thinking of Giygas and sloosh. I agree that Templar's opening was kinda awkward and confusing, but as an inexperienced player I feel where you're coming from.

I do think it's strange that Templar talks in his opening post about "toning it down a bit" and then doesn't really contribute much, followed by a vote on sloosh. It seems like he's already deviating from the plan he set up an hour ago, leading me to have a scum read on him so far

Explain how he's deviating from his plan, because I don't agree.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 09 2016 13:46 GMT
#252
On January 09 2016 16:31 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 08:51 Koshi wrote:
I am also going to make it my policy to not lynch an active player on D1. Going to go for a scummy low amount poster. and if there isn't one, I ll take down the lowest filter.


Koshi trying to sway Rayne's town read on sloosh seems out of place to me, given that Sloosh has been a pretty active poster so far; it contradicts one of his first posts in the game.

The Noonian vote would make more sense if we'd already gone passed some time for a low poster to be identified, so yea his reads have to be more than simply activity.


You are misrepresenting koshis plan. Just because he doesn't want to lynch someone active why would that affect his reads?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 09 2016 14:17 GMT
#257
On January 09 2016 23:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Noon any idea what is going on in Koshi's head voting you?


Hmm I'm guessing it was the fact that I was posting in another game and ignoring this one.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 09 2016 14:23 GMT
#259
On January 09 2016 23:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:17 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Noon any idea what is going on in Koshi's head voting you?


Hmm I'm guessing it was the fact that I was posting in another game and ignoring this one.


What do you think of Koshi and Giyga?


Koshi null leaning town. Why would he open the opposite of his last two town games if he were scum? Usually people try to emulate their town games as scum.

Gigyas no idea I'd have to filter,
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 09 2016 14:38 GMT
#263
On January 09 2016 13:28 GiygaS wrote:
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On January 09 2016 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2016 13:21 GiygaS wrote:
Fixed formatting
On January 09 2016 13:20 GiygaS wrote:
On January 09 2016 10:34 Koshi wrote:
On January 09 2016 09:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually Koshi why did you pick medic dodge as an example to the named VT question?
It has nothing to do with it.

Cuz I looked at the op and saw that a named vt could mean the difference between a cop and a doc. So mafia would know if they would have to medic dodge.

But the op is for 9 players. didn't see.

This post is weird cause look at the setups, both on page 1 and on page 5 (the actual possibilities):
page 1:
A: 1 Cop, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
B: 1 JK, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
C: 1 Boxer, 6 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF
D: 1 One-shot Cop, 1 JK, 5 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF

No named vt here so it can't mean the difference between cop and doc. But he says the op is for 9 players and made a mistake. What?

page 5:
The game setup is one of the following four:
A: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Named VT, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon
B: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
C: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
D: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Veteran, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon

So I went through the possibilities where named vt is the difference between a cop and a doc. A is the only scenario where it shows up, and cop appears in it and doc doesn't. The only scenario where Doc shows up and cop doesn't is C, but this would mean that either he's mafia and the team setup is RB GF Goon, or he's vig. However, vig cant be his role, because there's no situation where cop and vig are in the same game.


I don't think you should think this is alignment indicative.
Koshi is most likely telling the truth about not reading the setup on p5 (game start) as if he was lying and covering up later he would have covered up properly (he also misread the OP rofl).

So the only conclusion is Koshi was being dumb, as either alignment.

Eh, I'll take it with a grain of salt but I'd be lying if I said it won't affect my view on him looking forward.

I like gigyas as town. Town read started here. This read here is nuanced when scums reads are more cut and dry.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 09 2016 16:17 GMT
#270
@koshi my question was not redundant. I didn't realize there was named vt. I was wondering if gigyas' question made any sort of sense or he was just asking it for free activity.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 09 2016 16:21 GMT
#271
On January 09 2016 13:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
i suck at mafia but i have one of the best memories on this site. I remember playing mafia with sloosh. " he plays like oatsmaster" is so troll if he actually doesnt remember playing with me lol. Not like it was THAT long ago

most games you do play like oatsmaster though. very little content, mostly one liners, hard to read.


On January 09 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
just sloosh's weird comments and nitpicking completely useless things and telling others to do the work

He's struggling to create a filter

most likely mafia

This is enough to placeholder my vote on vayne.
"weird comments" - it's scummy to call something weird
"nitpicking completely useless things" - it didn't seem any more useless than what other people were talking about at the time
"telling others to do work" - misconstruing asking questions as telling others to do work.
"struggling to create a filter" - this is the kind of generic wording that comes from scum so often. Also I do not understand how someone can draw that conclusion from sloosh's filter.


Plus vayne doubles as a plynch anyway so there's that.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 09 2016 16:23 GMT
#273
On January 10 2016 01:12 Koshi wrote:
Ok only on page 11. I see even more people are voting me. I like it.

One of the things that I will not do 100% this game is call people names or capslock. I'll take the lynch with gratitude. If it happens. I would be surprised. Pleasantly even.


But that's how i know you're town...
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 09 2016 19:40 GMT
#329
On January 10 2016 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:23 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:17 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Noon any idea what is going on in Koshi's head voting you?


Hmm I'm guessing it was the fact that I was posting in another game and ignoring this one.


What do you think of Koshi and Giyga?


Koshi null leaning town. Why would he open the opposite of his last two town games if he were scum? Usually people try to emulate their town games as scum.

Gigyas no idea I'd have to filter,

Why did you ask Koshi about the bolded part if you think it makes him town anyways?


I like this thoughtful question from rayn.
Actually I didn't know what to think of what koshi said in the moment I asked him about it. I thought to myself.. why would koshi open in the opposite way of his last two games? And I thought him answering my question might help me get a better idea of his motivation behind it. Koshi didn't give me a helpful answer, which in itself made me lean townie on him slightly because he didn't feel the need to satisfy me.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 09 2016 19:47 GMT
#331
On January 10 2016 04:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
He is some one that needs a larger filter to read, lynching him day 1 would be useless/bad. especially since he can find scum if you give him time


vayne what do you think about how i want to lynch you?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 09 2016 22:00 GMT
#349
On January 10 2016 06:54 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
and kush + Tube too...

I am quite certain Eden, VA, darthfoley are town. GiygaS...not gonna lynch on D1 most likely, especially if he keeps his activity up and is being reasonable. Koshi and GGTemplar look fine as for now.


Did you say that Kush = Noonian?

Yes
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 09 2016 22:25 GMT
#351
On January 10 2016 07:17 GiygaS wrote:
I'll be on in a few hours, getting a bank account and phone for the US is taking longer than expected. After I'm done this ill probably be on for the rest of the weekend.

Welcome to the greatest country in the world lol.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 10 2016 14:23 GMT
#482
I still have to catch up. I was busy yesterday but I will find some time later today
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 10 2016 15:40 GMT
#490
On January 10 2016 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 19:14 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/501039-unoriginal-name-mini-mafia?page=13#259

I really liked this read from him

The problem with the read is it doesn't make any sense based on what he said earlier:

- He asks Koshi a question (indicating Koshi could be scum for that), here:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 08:37 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 08:17 Koshi wrote:
I am going to try my hardest this game. Really super super hard.

Why do you want to try hard this game? In your last two town games you opened with how you didn't want to try.

I don't understand why would you EVER ask something from anyone unless you think the answer they give could make them mafia.

- Here is what he says about Koshi's answer:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:23 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:17 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Noon any idea what is going on in Koshi's head voting you?


Hmm I'm guessing it was the fact that I was posting in another game and ignoring this one.


What do you think of Koshi and Giyga?


Koshi null leaning town. Why would he open the opposite of his last two town games if he were scum? Usually people try to emulate their town games as scum.

Gigyas no idea I'd have to filter,

So he comes to the conclusion Koshi's answer is leaning town.
Okay, let's go to the reasoning why he comes to this conclusion, which is the post you pointed out:

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 04:40 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:23 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:17 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Noon any idea what is going on in Koshi's head voting you?


Hmm I'm guessing it was the fact that I was posting in another game and ignoring this one.


What do you think of Koshi and Giyga?


Koshi null leaning town. Why would he open the opposite of his last two town games if he were scum? Usually people try to emulate their town games as scum.

Gigyas no idea I'd have to filter,

Why did you ask Koshi about the bolded part if you think it makes him town anyways?


I like this thoughtful question from rayn.
Actually I didn't know what to think of what koshi said in the moment I asked him about it. I thought to myself.. why would koshi open in the opposite way of his last two games? And I thought him answering my question might help me get a better idea of his motivation behind it. Koshi didn't give me a helpful answer, which in itself made me lean townie on him slightly because he didn't feel the need to satisfy me.

So summa summarium....
Noonian asks Koshi something that could indicate Koshi is mafia. Koshi gives him an answer that doesn't help him in any way, and he comes to the conclusion that it is a TOWNTELL?!?!?

- so scumtell becomes a towntell because the guy doesn't reasonably explain himself.




Another thing is this:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:21 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 13:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
i suck at mafia but i have one of the best memories on this site. I remember playing mafia with sloosh. " he plays like oatsmaster" is so troll if he actually doesnt remember playing with me lol. Not like it was THAT long ago

most games you do play like oatsmaster though. very little content, mostly one liners, hard to read.


On January 09 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
just sloosh's weird comments and nitpicking completely useless things and telling others to do the work

He's struggling to create a filter

most likely mafia

This is enough to placeholder my vote on vayne.
"weird comments" - it's scummy to call something weird
"nitpicking completely useless things" - it didn't seem any more useless than what other people were talking about at the time
"telling others to do work" - misconstruing asking questions as telling others to do work.
"struggling to create a filter" - this is the kind of generic wording that comes from scum so often. Also I do not understand how someone can draw that conclusion from sloosh's filter.


Plus vayne doubles as a plynch anyway so there's that.

This post is incredibly fishy because of the following:
- He is voting for VayneAuthority as a placeholder
- He is voting for VayneAuthority because he did something scummy
- He is voting for VayneAuthority because he is a good policy lynch

placeholder != scumread != policy lynch

There is literally no way VayneAuthority is all that at the same time. Or like... ugh.. how to explain it.. He is making up reasons for voting for VA, since if you scumread someone as town you vote for them because you think they are scum, NOT because they are a "placeholder vote" or "policy lynch".




Third point is that was basically all his filter.


I'm confused on the first part what you aren't understanding about the progression of that read.
1. koshi's opening is different
2. i inquire about it
3. koshi gives idgaf answer which in itself is minorly townie
3. i think more about his opening, and figure it's minorly townie, entirely apart from the happenings of 2 and 3

Second point placeholder, plynch and scumlynch don't have to be mutually exclusive, especially early in the game when scumreads are weak. Why do thoes motivates behind voting have to be mutually exclusive?

Third point - it's hard for me to get activity in on weekends.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 10 2016 20:38 GMT
#523
On January 11 2016 05:30 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 05:28 slOosh wrote:
Yea I definitely don't think we should be lynching either GiygaS or Tubesock today. There's enough good things from each player but nothing so bad that you could lynch them with that much confidence (there might be and if you see something please share with the rest of class). It could easily be town vs town.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME. HE CALLED HIMSELF SCUMMY HOW DO YOU NOT LYNCH THAT


explain like i'm done why that's self awareness is anything but null?
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