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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 06 2016 22:42 GMT
#43
/in need to get better at this somehow
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 08 2016 23:48 GMT
#92
Yo! I've learned from last game that I need way more of a thread presence so really going to work on that this game. That said, I'm at work right now so sew you guys in a few hours ^.^
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 08 2016 23:50 GMT
#93
Before I leave if there's a vanilla townie, should they claim? It would give us useful setup info and maybe confirm someone right?
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 04:09 GMT
#172
Back, catching up now.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 04:20 GMT
#175
On January 09 2016 10:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 09:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually Koshi why did you pick medic dodge as an example to the named VT question?
It has nothing to do with it.

Cuz I looked at the op and saw that a named vt could mean the difference between a cop and a doc. So mafia would know if they would have to medic dodge.

But the op is for 9 players. didn't see.

This post is weird cause look at the setups, both on page 1 and on page 5 (the actual possibilities):
page 1:
A: 1 Cop, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
B: 1 JK, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
C: 1 Boxer, 6 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF
D: 1 One-shot Cop, 1 JK, 5 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF

No named vt here so it can't mean the difference between cop and doc. But he says the op is for 9 players and made a mistake. What?

page 5:
[quote]The game setup is one of the following four:
[quote]A: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Named VT, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon
B: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
C: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
D: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Veteran, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon[/quote]
So I went through the possibilities where named vt is the difference between a cop and a doc. A is the only scenario where it shows up, and cop appears in it and doc doesn't. The only scenario where Doc shows up and cop doesn't is C, but this would mean that either he's mafia and the team setup is RB GF Goon, or he's vig. However, vig cant be his role, because there's no situation where cop and vig are in the same game.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 04:21 GMT
#176
Fixed formatting
On January 09 2016 13:20 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 10:34 Koshi wrote:
On January 09 2016 09:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually Koshi why did you pick medic dodge as an example to the named VT question?
It has nothing to do with it.

Cuz I looked at the op and saw that a named vt could mean the difference between a cop and a doc. So mafia would know if they would have to medic dodge.

But the op is for 9 players. didn't see.

This post is weird cause look at the setups, both on page 1 and on page 5 (the actual possibilities):
page 1:
Show nested quote +
A: 1 Cop, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
B: 1 JK, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
C: 1 Boxer, 6 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF
D: 1 One-shot Cop, 1 JK, 5 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF

No named vt here so it can't mean the difference between cop and doc. But he says the op is for 9 players and made a mistake. What?

page 5:
Show nested quote +
The game setup is one of the following four:
A: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Named VT, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon
B: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
C: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
D: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Veteran, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon

So I went through the possibilities where named vt is the difference between a cop and a doc. A is the only scenario where it shows up, and cop appears in it and doc doesn't. The only scenario where Doc shows up and cop doesn't is C, but this would mean that either he's mafia and the team setup is RB GF Goon, or he's vig. However, vig cant be his role, because there's no situation where cop and vig are in the same game.

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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 04:27 GMT
#178
On January 09 2016 11:41 Koshi wrote:
They had a jk which is a medic.

Can you explain to me ow this could ever make me mafia?

There's still no named vt in the op, so it can't be the difference between anything if you're basing it on that.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 04:28 GMT
#180
On January 09 2016 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 13:21 GiygaS wrote:
Fixed formatting
On January 09 2016 13:20 GiygaS wrote:
On January 09 2016 10:34 Koshi wrote:
On January 09 2016 09:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually Koshi why did you pick medic dodge as an example to the named VT question?
It has nothing to do with it.

Cuz I looked at the op and saw that a named vt could mean the difference between a cop and a doc. So mafia would know if they would have to medic dodge.

But the op is for 9 players. didn't see.

This post is weird cause look at the setups, both on page 1 and on page 5 (the actual possibilities):
page 1:
A: 1 Cop, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
B: 1 JK, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
C: 1 Boxer, 6 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF
D: 1 One-shot Cop, 1 JK, 5 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF

No named vt here so it can't mean the difference between cop and doc. But he says the op is for 9 players and made a mistake. What?

page 5:
The game setup is one of the following four:
A: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Named VT, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon
B: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
C: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
D: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Veteran, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon

So I went through the possibilities where named vt is the difference between a cop and a doc. A is the only scenario where it shows up, and cop appears in it and doc doesn't. The only scenario where Doc shows up and cop doesn't is C, but this would mean that either he's mafia and the team setup is RB GF Goon, or he's vig. However, vig cant be his role, because there's no situation where cop and vig are in the same game.


I don't think you should think this is alignment indicative.
Koshi is most likely telling the truth about not reading the setup on p5 (game start) as if he was lying and covering up later he would have covered up properly (he also misread the OP rofl).

So the only conclusion is Koshi was being dumb, as either alignment.

Eh, I'll take it with a grain of salt but I'd be lying if I said it won't affect my view on him looking forward.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 04:29 GMT
#181
On January 09 2016 13:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 13:27 GiygaS wrote:
On January 09 2016 11:41 Koshi wrote:
They had a jk which is a medic.

Can you explain to me ow this could ever make me mafia?

There's still no named vt in the op, so it can't be the difference between anything if you're basing it on that.

boxer = named VT

OH. I'm silly, gotcha
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 04:37 GMT
#184
Currently feeling weird about mderg and sloosh. Sloosh for reasons other people are giving, and I find it weird that mderg showed up, talked about my question (NAI) then peaced out for no good reason.

darth, templar was talking about toning down defending his early reads late in to the game. That post is not going to mean anything d1 if you're just evaluating if he's staying true to it or not.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 04:44 GMT
#188
On January 09 2016 13:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 13:37 GiygaS wrote:
Currently feeling weird about mderg and sloosh. Sloosh for reasons other people are giving, and I find it weird that mderg showed up, talked about my question (NAI) then peaced out for no good reason.

Is there a reason why this is scummy/weird for mderg but not for kush?

Because I completely missed him not showing up on my second run through the thread. Change that to mderg and kush.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 06:32 GMT
#195
I think both of your town reads against me were bullshit. Whether I post vanilla townie or named vt was just a mistake I made based on me being rushed cause I was in a bathroom stall at work. Also I take back my scum read on you, you're looking a lot better.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 06:36 GMT
#197
On January 09 2016 13:38 Eden1892 wrote:
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On January 09 2016 12:44 slOosh wrote:
On January 09 2016 12:39 Koshi wrote:
On January 09 2016 12:35 slOosh wrote:
On January 09 2016 12:32 Koshi wrote:
You really look like mafia not knowing what read he should represent and then just give 17 possibilities to everything.

Do you think I should have a stronger read on the players I mentioned / the ones I didn't? Can you provide one?

Only the green would be townie. Adding the red makes it more mafia.
On January 09 2016 12:25 slOosh wrote:
Vayne ... I feel like he is reading me slightly more scum than someone reasonably could? Either that or his style of playing is very different to mine, almost like Oatsmaster or something if he is still around.

I can see where you are coming from - I was merely giving my whole thinking process. The fact is I play (or at least I think I play) a more logical fashion, sometimes roundabout style. I was noting that some other playstyles hate this (and the player mentioned was just one that came to mind).

The tone of this post is scummy.

Cooler shit later.

[image loading]
OP will surely deliver.

@Vayne, his posts on you seem to be someone who's posting legit thoughts. The posts are short but they get across his point. I'd obviously like to see more but nothing is ringing any alarm bells.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 06:37 GMT
#198
On January 09 2016 15:36 slOosh wrote:
For the record I was leaning scum on you for that post, unless you are referring to something else.

Could I have your current read on GGTeMpLaR and Koshi?

Meant to say reads. GGTeMpLaR, I dunno, honestly. Nothing pointing me in either direction for him. Like how Koshi seems to be getting along with rayn to try and catch scum.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 06:46 GMT
#200
On January 09 2016 15:43 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 12:57 Koshi wrote:
##vote: Nooniansoong

I got reasons. But they are "terrible". I am also extremely tired so I can't promise I will remember them. But I think he might be biggest shot on mafia.

You don't think the way that he exited thread is weird? He spends a good chunk of posts swaying rayn's town read of me, and when rayn comes around he leaves with this?

I don't want to judge him on this until he actually comes back. It's weird sure, but NAI until we see his actual reasoning.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 06:47 GMT
#201
Going to bed, night guys.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 09 2016 22:17 GMT
#350
I'll be on in a few hours, getting a bank account and phone for the US is taking longer than expected. After I'm done this ill probably be on for the rest of the weekend.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 00:42 GMT
#361
Finally home, catching up now.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 01:31 GMT
#378
On January 10 2016 01:53 Koshi wrote:
Not sure if I should do this but I can't stay behind.

Unlynchables D1:
GiygaS, rayn, Eden

Townleans:
Nooniansoong , GGTemplar + Show Spoiler +
On January 09 2016 16:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I also don't find your attempted interrogation an attempt to discern my alignment either.

You're more-so just trying to discredit my vote and scumread of you without providing any real content other than

'why?'
'why?'
'why?'

I liked this post
, mderg

Null:
Kmatt (tempted to bump him up but it would be bad play?) (because his opening post was so chill, would mafia not post more?)
VayneAuthority / boxerfred (50/50 mafia?)

PoE mafia
slOosh, Tubesock


Got distracted. I find it weird that he has null reads, and then describes his mafia choices as PoE
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 01:35 GMT
#381
Process of elimination
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 01:49 GMT
#382
Could you just explain that a little bit more? Like why did you list them as PoE scum and the others as null?
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 03:11 GMT
#384
I'm gonna ladder a bit and come back, but before I do

##Vote tubesock

His last posts townreads were really odd. Basically My list is (roughly from scummy to less scummy)

tubesock: not much more to say on him that darth already hasn't

mderg: says easy things that are easy to say. his darth case is the only real content he has and it doesn't feel very substantial. Feels like he went looking around for something to read on, made the post and moved on. He's not pushing his read anymore, and hasn't even really talked about it again.

---- Line of scumminess ---

kmatt: baby come back
VA: I want to believe that his matter of fact tone makes him town, but I just can't given the things I'm reading about his reputation

---- Line of towniness ---

noon
boxer
koshi
ggtemp: If he was mafia he would have used his supposed inexperience as a shield.
sloosh

---- Line of more-towniness ---

darth
eden
rayn

There's very likely a mafia in my town reads as I'm really not sure about a lot of them, but I want to lynch mderg or tubesock as it stands now.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 06:25 GMT
#386
I'm concerned that there's been a lot of silence since Tubesock has gotten the majority of the votes.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 07:51 GMT
#406
I didn't think him having town reads on those people was odd, I thought him classifying them as easy was odd (esp. noon).
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 08:00 GMT
#409
On January 10 2016 16:55 Tubesock wrote:
So, basically, you are saying that if I simply said:

Town reads
Rayne, Eden, SloOsh, Noonsiansoong

then the rest as finished, you would think I'm town?

That would have helped, when your filter is that short its hard to say much else when there's basically nothing else in your filter. There's nothing of substance in that except for that post, and the one just now where you scum read me because I scum read you for the wrong reasons.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 08:05 GMT
#414
On January 10 2016 17:02 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 17:00 GiygaS wrote:
On January 10 2016 16:55 Tubesock wrote:
So, basically, you are saying that if I simply said:

Town reads
Rayne, Eden, SloOsh, Noonsiansoong

then the rest as finished, you would think I'm town?

That would have helped, when your filter is that short its hard to say much else when there's basically nothing else in your filter. There's nothing of substance in that except for that post, and the one just now where you scum read me because I scum read you for the wrong reasons.

Er, can you answer his question? "That would have helped" isn't an answer, and the rest of this is noise for the purpose of answering him.

At that moment, I would not think he was town but he would not be my top lynch choice. Now though, he still would be.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 08:08 GMT
#416
On January 10 2016 17:07 Eden1892 wrote:
The difference between, effectively, "null" and "top lynch choice" comes down to him calling a few town reads easy?

And the other contents in that post.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 08:11 GMT
#418
Read the post that darth posted that I referred to, that tube so kindly quoted.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 08:14 GMT
#420
I'm talking about the post where he called the town reads easy, darth made a post saying basically the entire thing seemed off to him and I agreed with him.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 08:19 GMT
#423
On January 10 2016 17:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Being a little more specific would help me figure this out...

I think I understand what you are trying to say now.

You are saying that:

Show nested quote +
Easy reads on sloosh, Noonian? None of these reads have any reasoning behind them. The vagueness with things like tone or "weird scuzzies" make me think scum


is the difference between Tubesock being "null" and Tubesock being "top lynch."

Is that correct?

Along with the context that that was basically his only content post, which I didn't think needed to be said in my post.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 08:29 GMT
#426
Im going to bed now. Ill be around all day tomorrow
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 19:25 GMT
#506
Instead of relying on the summary made by the person being accused, why didn't you fuckers actually read the post darth made. TS is misrepresenting the argument made completely so he can push me as an OMGUS lynch target. What I took out of darth's post:

On January 10 2016 10:08 darthfoley wrote:
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On January 10 2016 04:37 Tubesock wrote:
@Eden - I did think the thread was heading in the towning people for too dumb to be mafia reasons. Also I posted to post. At the time there really wasn't anything I felt compelled to respond to.

Easy town reads
Reyn, Eden, SloOsh, Nooniansoong

GGtemplar I didn't like his first like 5 posts but he looks a lot better this morning.
Koshi while gives me some weird scuzzies I am not willing to lynch him.
Vayne I am not willing to lynch either. I like his tone.

the rest haven't said anything I found interesting or memorable.

I have to work today and have Christmas dinner tonight but after that I'll be in thread.


This is Tubesock's only post of the day and I'm not a fan. Easy reads on sloosh, Noonian? None of these reads have any reasoning behind them. The vagueness with things like tone or "weird scuzzies" make me think scum


1. The fact its his only post of the day, and really provides no substance other than what he classifies as easy townreads.

2. His townreads are "easy": The townreads noon especially would definitely not be easy. The way he classified these seems to me like he was classifying them as strong town reads, which I felt odd on someone like noon who I had a very weak townread on. Again, it was not his townreads that seemed odd to me, but his classification of them as easy.

3. His vague statements. And I'd just like to add on to this because in tubesock's original post accusing me, he had already left this part out in his strawman argument.
On January 10 2016 15:26 Tubesock wrote:GiygaS should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. His case if he were town would include things like how I scum claimed, bitched and whined about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when I was called out for it I bailed scummily. That I have 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe I was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe.

He included darth's post in that post, there's no way he didn't read it. He purposefully ignored an aspect of my argument so he could pull this OMGUS strawman on me. The most disappointing part is it seems to be working.

4. This wasn't in my original post but can we PLEASE lynch the guy who's himself saying he looks scummy af. This should not be a defense, period.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 19:29 GMT
#507
I'd also like to say I'm sorry I didn't make this post last night when I was answering eden but I was in bed and had more faith that you guys would read. my bad.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 20:30 GMT
#519
On January 11 2016 05:28 slOosh wrote:
Yea I definitely don't think we should be lynching either GiygaS or Tubesock today. There's enough good things from each player but nothing so bad that you could lynch them with that much confidence (there might be and if you see something please share with the rest of class). It could easily be town vs town.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME. HE CALLED HIMSELF SCUMMY HOW DO YOU NOT LYNCH THAT
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January 10 2016 21:02 GMT
#543
The point that tubesock is self-aware is an understatement. The only real analysis he's done all game has been on himself and me purely based on my read of him.
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January 10 2016 21:27 GMT
#570
That quote shows that he is aware of his meta. He could very easily be playing around it and using it as a shield
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January 10 2016 21:32 GMT
#576
On January 11 2016 06:30 slOosh wrote:
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On January 11 2016 06:27 GiygaS wrote:
That quote shows that he is aware of his meta. He could very easily be playing around it and using it as a shield

I agree this is a possibility. Noon has made a comment that "verify's" this. What is your interpretation of this?

Noon cares a ton about meta, it's NAI for me in relation to him.
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January 10 2016 21:38 GMT
#579
On January 11 2016 06:35 slOosh wrote:
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On January 11 2016 06:32 GiygaS wrote:
On January 11 2016 06:30 slOosh wrote:
On January 11 2016 06:27 GiygaS wrote:
That quote shows that he is aware of his meta. He could very easily be playing around it and using it as a shield

I agree this is a possibility. Noon has made a comment that "verify's" this. What is your interpretation of this?

Noon cares a ton about meta, it's NAI for me in relation to him.

Um, I guess what I was getting at was,

Noon meta verifies that Tubesock is playing more to his town meta.

Do you think noon is town and wrong? Scum and buddying? Etc.

I think noon could be either, I have a light town read on him. What I'm saying is that noon bringing it up means nothing to me in relation to my view on him.
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January 10 2016 21:53 GMT
#589
On January 11 2016 06:50 Tubesock wrote:
1. "I'd lynch Rayn over Noon" - How do you get I want to lynch you from that? that statement is simply I townread Noon harder than I townread you. I don't see how anyone can possibly get anything else from that. Especially in the context of how and when I said it.

2. If you are townreading me because I'm saying I'm scummy and nothing else then you are bad. You're not reading what I wrote or trying to understand what I'm actually saying.

3. Obviously, I need to explain my case further since the vast majority of you guys don't understand.

Take Darthfoley's worldview. He sees my read post, and sees that 2 of my reads don't jive with his and I say they were easy which is like doubly bad. It's perfectly reasonable for him to have cased me like he did and what he said matches what his worldview looked like according to his filter.

Now pretend you are in a random game.

Player A says I read these 4 people like so easy.

You share these reads but disagree with the "easy" part. Otherwise apparently the guy is "null".

Do you A) Scum him and elevate him to the top of your scumpile then vote or
B) make him clarify his reads specifically the "easy" part.
C) maybe you think he's scum, but you're going to cite his reads instead of the real reasons you think he's scum.

GiygaS is mafia because his reads are fabricated. Him not being aware of how they match mine shows he's not invested in his own reads much to recognize our similiarities.

I've explained very succinctly what I took out of darths post. Now stop strawmanning
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January 10 2016 22:32 GMT
#621
READ MY FUCKING EXPLANATION POST GODDAMNIT

on sloosh: posts reads with logic behind them that seems to make sense. Esp. now he seems to be very concerned about where he puts his vote.

on kush: This is admittedly much weaker than sloosh, I kept back and forthing him on my null and towny list while I was making the post. He's basically following the meta around how he plays as town. There's like a direct 1:1 between this post:
On January 09 2016 23:38 nooniansoong wrote:
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On January 09 2016 13:28 GiygaS wrote:
On January 09 2016 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2016 13:21 GiygaS wrote:
Fixed formatting
On January 09 2016 13:20 GiygaS wrote:
On January 09 2016 10:34 Koshi wrote:
On January 09 2016 09:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually Koshi why did you pick medic dodge as an example to the named VT question?
It has nothing to do with it.

Cuz I looked at the op and saw that a named vt could mean the difference between a cop and a doc. So mafia would know if they would have to medic dodge.

But the op is for 9 players. didn't see.

This post is weird cause look at the setups, both on page 1 and on page 5 (the actual possibilities):
page 1:
A: 1 Cop, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
B: 1 JK, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
C: 1 Boxer, 6 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF
D: 1 One-shot Cop, 1 JK, 5 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF

No named vt here so it can't mean the difference between cop and doc. But he says the op is for 9 players and made a mistake. What?

page 5:
The game setup is one of the following four:
A: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Named VT, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon
B: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
C: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
D: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Veteran, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon

So I went through the possibilities where named vt is the difference between a cop and a doc. A is the only scenario where it shows up, and cop appears in it and doc doesn't. The only scenario where Doc shows up and cop doesn't is C, but this would mean that either he's mafia and the team setup is RB GF Goon, or he's vig. However, vig cant be his role, because there's no situation where cop and vig are in the same game.


I don't think you should think this is alignment indicative.
Koshi is most likely telling the truth about not reading the setup on p5 (game start) as if he was lying and covering up later he would have covered up properly (he also misread the OP rofl).

So the only conclusion is Koshi was being dumb, as either alignment.

Eh, I'll take it with a grain of salt but I'd be lying if I said it won't affect my view on him looking forward.

I like gigyas as town. Town read started here. This read here is nuanced when scums reads are more cut and dry.

and the last one i played with him
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January 10 2016 22:33 GMT
#623
On January 11 2016 07:29 darthfoley wrote:
I think he implied questioning your reads and their ease when he said that I said all there needs to be said (because I questioned your easy reads)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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January 10 2016 22:36 GMT
#628
On December 17 2015 02:46 kushm4sta wrote:
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On December 15 2015 02:58 GiygaS wrote:
I'll reread tt filter and see, but all I have is null or town reads on everyone, except a tiny lean on Koshi from meta that I haven't even experienced.


This read on koshi makes me think he's town. It is a very specific type of read. Very nuanced. Scum don't have nuanced reads like that.

It was acutally nutcracker. This was the post I was talking about.
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January 10 2016 22:59 GMT
#662
On January 11 2016 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 11 2016 07:58 slOosh wrote:
On January 11 2016 07:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also i am not gonna switch my vote, just that i can tell you "i told you so".
You can lynch me if bf flips scum. But he doesn't, because noone is clearly pushing another lynch except for me.

I'll switch if you can help me understand this part.

noone is trying to lynch anyone. everybody is just "okay" with boxerfred being lynched.
it's bullshit. he's never gonna flip scum.

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January 10 2016 23:00 GMT
#666
Woops, meant to include that with:
We're going to get basically zero info out of it because it's basically been talked about that much.
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January 10 2016 23:00 GMT
#670
Well shit, thats fucking awesome.
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January 11 2016 01:58 GMT
#763
My "blue hunting" was me genuinely not knowing how a named VT works in the average game. I read it on the mafiascum wiki that their claim is very important, so I thought it might be worth asking to generate some non-joke discussion.

To explain my townread on boxerfred, while it was light, and dropped continuously as he didn't show up, was that he seemed to be reading posts very carefully to make analysis. He was picking out tiny things like the medic dodge specificity that I missed and thought was interesting, esp. when I was suspicious of Koshi at the time.

Updated reads for me is that ggtemp, koshi and sloosh are confirmed for the time being. Rayn is still very town in my eyes, and mderg has moved up since I don't think he would have swapped to a 1 vote wagon if he was scum trying to save his teammate (he would have swapped to one of the two vote wagons).

It's worth noting that we know boxer wasn't around as there's no way he wouldn't have either swapped votes or talked in the thread otherwise. So there was max 2 mafia in the thread at the time of the lynch.
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January 11 2016 01:59 GMT
#764
Sidenote you should lynch me cause I'm scum since I'm going through undertale genocide run
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January 11 2016 02:03 GMT
#766
Wine In Front Of Me
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January 11 2016 02:05 GMT
#767
I should add it is generally Not Alignment Indicative
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January 11 2016 06:42 GMT
#790
On January 11 2016 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 10 2016 20:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GiygaS why do YOU townread slOosh and kush?


On January 11 2016 07:32 GiygaS wrote:
READ MY FUCKING EXPLANATION POST GODDAMNIT

on sloosh: posts reads with logic behind them that seems to make sense. Esp. now he seems to be very concerned about where he puts his vote.

on kush: This is admittedly much weaker than sloosh, I kept back and forthing him on my null and towny list while I was making the post. He's basically following the meta around how he plays as town. There's like a direct 1:1 between this post:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:38 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 13:28 GiygaS wrote:
On January 09 2016 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2016 13:21 GiygaS wrote:
Fixed formatting
On January 09 2016 13:20 GiygaS wrote:
On January 09 2016 10:34 Koshi wrote:
On January 09 2016 09:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually Koshi why did you pick medic dodge as an example to the named VT question?
It has nothing to do with it.

Cuz I looked at the op and saw that a named vt could mean the difference between a cop and a doc. So mafia would know if they would have to medic dodge.

But the op is for 9 players. didn't see.

This post is weird cause look at the setups, both on page 1 and on page 5 (the actual possibilities):
page 1:
A: 1 Cop, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
B: 1 JK, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
C: 1 Boxer, 6 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF
D: 1 One-shot Cop, 1 JK, 5 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF

No named vt here so it can't mean the difference between cop and doc. But he says the op is for 9 players and made a mistake. What?

page 5:
The game setup is one of the following four:
A: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Named VT, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon
B: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
C: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
D: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Veteran, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon

So I went through the possibilities where named vt is the difference between a cop and a doc. A is the only scenario where it shows up, and cop appears in it and doc doesn't. The only scenario where Doc shows up and cop doesn't is C, but this would mean that either he's mafia and the team setup is RB GF Goon, or he's vig. However, vig cant be his role, because there's no situation where cop and vig are in the same game.


I don't think you should think this is alignment indicative.
Koshi is most likely telling the truth about not reading the setup on p5 (game start) as if he was lying and covering up later he would have covered up properly (he also misread the OP rofl).

So the only conclusion is Koshi was being dumb, as either alignment.

Eh, I'll take it with a grain of salt but I'd be lying if I said it won't affect my view on him looking forward.

I like gigyas as town. Town read started here. This read here is nuanced when scums reads are more cut and dry.

and the last one i played with him

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January 11 2016 21:07 GMT
#868
At work so can't talk much, but I think I'm starting to lay off Tubesock. Don't know who my next choice is though. Will have to go through filters when I get home.
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January 11 2016 23:05 GMT
#899
Time to claim. I'm cop checked tube sock he was mafia. Now back to work!
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January 11 2016 23:14 GMT
#903
Am I not supposed to immediately claim of I find red?
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January 11 2016 23:15 GMT
#905
And why would mafia frame tube when most people said they thought he was town again.
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January 11 2016 23:18 GMT
#909
On January 12 2016 08:15 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2016 08:14 GiygaS wrote:
Am I not supposed to immediately claim of I find red?

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And this is where I learn I suck at this game even more than I thought
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January 11 2016 23:24 GMT
#916
On January 12 2016 08:23 Koshi wrote:
##vote: Tubesock

Giygas, promise me you are mafia or cop. Not a fucking vanilla townie being a giant dumbass. And if you are, please let us know in time. Which is right when you read this post.

I am cop
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January 12 2016 01:46 GMT
#976
On January 12 2016 10:44 nooniansoong wrote:
what the fuck is going on lol

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January 12 2016 02:02 GMT
#978
On January 12 2016 10:58 nooniansoong wrote:
so i claim right?

If you want to counter claim sloosh as named vt then yes. If you're just going to claim by don't bother.
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January 12 2016 02:09 GMT
#979
On January 12 2016 11:02 GiygaS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2016 10:58 nooniansoong wrote:
so i claim right?

If you want to counter claim sloosh as named vt then yes. If you're just going to claim vt don't bother.

Ebwop
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January 12 2016 08:26 GMT
#997
On January 12 2016 15:52 slOosh wrote:
Alright ... I think I've fully caught up (and I realize I've been spamming it up a bit so I'll cut back).

I don't even know where to start this post .... uhhh warning stream of thought post coming up, feel free to skip to end for conclusion.

GiygaS is confirmed town cop.
+ Show Spoiler [just for rayn] +

Remember that very first GiygaS read? This was why. I read him blue / red for it but couldn't really flesh it out without accidentally outing myself as blue / him as blue.



I would have expected Tubesock to have a more ... knee jerk "GiygaS is full of BS dirty mafia fake claimer" given how firmly he believed that GiygaS was scum basically whole game till that point. That said, I could see him just take a step back and figure things out before posting, so null on the reaction point.

As GGTeMpLaR has pointed out, it is statistically unlikely that there is a false positive check. That means framer chose not to frame themselves and instead chose to target Tubesock. Although it isn't outside the realm of possibilities that scum team read GiygaS as cop (maybe taking this post as indication of check).
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On January 12 2016 06:07 GiygaS wrote:
At work so can't talk much, but I think I'm starting to lay off Tubesock. Don't know who my next choice is though. Will have to go through filters when I get home.

And if we are heading in the right direction, it wouldn't surprise me if scum decided they needed to take some ballsy plays to get back into the game.


I've read the materials against darthfoley and it looks good. I agree with the general assessments, and find his D2 play has been more lackluster, perhaps showcasing that he has been more of a thread sentiment emulator rather than an independent poster.

I'm trying to wrap my head around possible teams, and I don't think both darthfoley and Tubesock would go in the same team. From Eden's nicely colored voting pattern post, darthfoley's switcharoonies are only incriminating if Tubesock is town. I really don't see how they can both be scum buddies by the way that they voted. Darthfoley's MO is basically follow the crowd (shadowing me or rayn or whoever) on possible lynches - notice he never jumps onto boxerfred, but is comfortable jumping on and off Tubesock. He most definitely had opportunity to change his votes and it wouldn't look inconsistent with his playstyle, and so it feels too gutsy to be parking your vote on a scum buddy like that.


Right now I'm thinking darthfoley scum Tubesock town. I could definitely still just be biased from defending Tubesock D1 so gonna sleep on it, but that's where I currently am.

I would very much appreciate if scott31337 and noonian could get in here and make sense of things too. Because if both of them aren't scum, then the last one is hiding somewhere else, and I'd like more info for when that time comes.

My main issue with this is I don't think mafia would have killed rayne if they knew I was cop.
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January 12 2016 08:28 GMT
#998
I should note that I changed my mind on who to target like 5 times. Went from scott->noon->scott->tube->noon->tube again. The reason I settled on tube was because I saw town sentiment start to ease off him and thought he would be decently safe from a framer check, since I thought they would target themselves or scott first.
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January 12 2016 21:43 GMT
#1080
About noon's what the fuck is going on post, that was clearly about the claim shenanigans if you read context around it.
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January 12 2016 21:44 GMT
#1081
I'm a little bit weirded out that widen refused to believe my cop claim until everybody else did
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January 13 2016 00:05 GMT
#1093
On January 13 2016 07:17 Koshi wrote:
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On January 13 2016 06:44 GiygaS wrote:
I'm a little bit weirded out that widen refused to believe my cop claim until everybody else did

Who the fuck is widen?

Eden, autocorrect is cruel.
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January 13 2016 00:10 GMT
#1094
Can we get confirmation that farmer can target mafia to make it look like town?
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January 13 2016 00:11 GMT
#1095
nvm
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January 13 2016 01:47 GMT
#1116
This was of a day is all my fault fuckfuckfuck
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January 13 2016 01:47 GMT
#1117
*waste
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January 13 2016 01:50 GMT
#1118
Eden can you explain why you thought I was lying initially?
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January 13 2016 05:48 GMT
#1129
Shit thought I already hadn't voted. Yeah I am:
##vote tubesock
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January 13 2016 22:25 GMT
#1180
On January 14 2016 06:50 Eden1892 wrote:
GGTemplar, mderg, scott, Giygas: Why are you voting for Tubesock? What do you have to say about my town case on Tubesock?


slOosh: Why are you voting for darthfoley? Would you be comfortable voting for another person out of the darth/kush/Vayne pool?

Because I red checked him after being suspicious of him for a large portion of the game already, and I doubt that farmer targetted him. I honestly haven't done enough work to be comfortable with any other lynch today.
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January 13 2016 22:26 GMT
#1181
On January 14 2016 07:19 Eden1892 wrote:
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On January 14 2016 07:15 mderg wrote:
I honestly don't think your town case on him is more convincing than the red check. It basically comes down to him being active and giving reads.

Why would he do that as a caught scum? It's a gigantic waste of his time if he's scum. It's clearly not self-preservation because he keeps telling us to kill him.

Are you telling me you're unconvinced that someone who is active and giving involved reads is town? And that that's a bad town case?

And that with a known framer in the format, a red check is enough to convince you?

Why do you think the mafia didn't frame Tubesock innocent?

There are two mafia, there's probably that he's goon and framer framed himself.
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January 13 2016 23:03 GMT
#1195
I'll try to make some reads tonight before I die.
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January 14 2016 04:32 GMT
#1210
I'm sorry but I have some RL things that I need to do and I have work in the morning so I probably won't be able to do any analysis until tomorrow afternoon, and I might (probably) be dead by then.

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January 14 2016 23:04 GMT
#1234
I'm alive! I'll get on when I get home
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January 15 2016 05:36 GMT
#1259
My cop check was in on one of the townier people that I had stupid suspicions on, since I figured it would avoid framer. Not going to go in to more detail than that for now.

I didn't like mderg on D1 and I still don't like him all that much. Had weird interactions day 1 in the tubesock/me interaction where he started off on tubesock's side, then started pressuring him instead, then backs off and votes me. Then unvotes me after "thinking about it over again", coincidentally when town sentiment started shifting away from lynching me. Then he voted boxerfred and he seems a lot more towny, even if he did switch last minute. We've gone over this but because boxerfred was gone it was basically impossible for mafia to swap that vote unless they had two on the boxerfred wagon, which isn't very likely. If there was somehow 2 scum on that wagon and he switched and his partner just didn't do it in time, that makes things more interesting. All of this said, if we do lynch noon before him, and noon turns out to be scum, mderg looks very towny.

Going to look in to Eden next, then darth, then va, then noon, then scott. I think that'll be it for tonight.
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January 15 2016 05:43 GMT
#1260
Yeah I don't want to lynch eden today. Weirdness around him defending tubesock, seemed sort of like scum playing the long game, but his other posts lead me to believe he's towny. Consistent with analysis with work put in to it, even though it was clear that d2 you could skate by with very little content (sorry all )
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Canada1043 Posts
January 15 2016 05:52 GMT
#1261
Posts that stuck out for me:
On January 11 2016 06:08 nooniansoong wrote:
I don't want to lynch tubesock.
I can't understand most of his posts. His scum game is still fresh in my mind and his posts were a lot easier to follow.
That's because his content this game is much closer to stream of thought.

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On January 11 2016 00:47 Tubesock wrote:
I'm onboard for the Boxerfred or Kmatt lynch. VA is an ok enough lynch. He'd be number 4 though.

Having a number 4 lynch on d1 is really townie. It shows a lot of thought is going into who might be scum.

Nuanced read that he elaborated on later, in defense of tubesock.

On January 13 2016 09:21 nooniansoong wrote:
why nvm i want to know lol.

Doesn't know how framer works, don't think noon would try a fake dumbtell like this if he was playing scum.

Also based on a lot of his reads being around Vayne, I feel like they can't be on a team together. So teams of noon/mderg and noon/va are really unlikely. Overall, I do not want to kill noon today.

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Canada1043 Posts
January 15 2016 06:07 GMT
#1264
darth can you give me what exactly is your current position on VA
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January 15 2016 06:20 GMT
#1265
On January 15 2016 14:10 scott31337 wrote:
Got really busy at work guys - but I wanted to put out my thoughts. I'll try to jump on more tomorrow.

In order from town to scummy

1. GiygaS - Cop not CC'ed (I feel for ya bud, I was a two shot tracker that claimed one shot, and got disrespected too)
9. Koshi - He's shitting his town rainbow style, he's angry - yes, he does this when his town fails him.
11. GGTeMpLaR - He's playing well, and shooting it out -
2. Eden1892 - He feels town - I know he was trying to prove everyone wrong with the "TS was town" - but it needed to happen.
7. darthfoley - He did so well D1 - I need to read him more -
10. VayneAuthority - I want to believe in Rayn's meta read on you - from what I've obs'ed - it's rarely wrong, but he isn't perfect either.
5. Nooniansoong - he is nothing but one liners. I'm happy to vote him.
4. mderg - I'm his D3 mislynch from my view - speaks very little about me and now would be happy to lynch me. I still don't like his late vote d1 - the vet's say it's NAI, ehh, Milo bit me in the ass before on this.

I really can't agree with this read on darth. His play was good, but not so well, especially when you go over it in his filter carefully.

The fact he posts an ordered list while being at work and can't really backcheck seems really odd. When I'm posting an ordered list like this as town I go over it meticulously to really be sure of where I stand. Here it just sort of throws it out there quickly. Overall I really don't like this post.

On January 11 2016 08:36 scott31337 wrote:
Yeah Tube says Boxer is his second lynch but never votes for him.

Giygas throwing out a free townread for Boxer without explanation is pretty bad too.

## Mafia: Boxerfred / Giygas / Tubesock - can't be that easy right?

Shows he's not reading the thread at all.

Also worth noting that D1 makes a lot more sense if you know that only one scum was actually around for its entirety.

I would definitely like to kill scott today. Going in to VA next, and wait on darth until he answers.
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Canada1043 Posts
January 15 2016 06:31 GMT
#1268
I think scott (for now) gives most information. I'd be ok with a VA lynch as well.

##Vote scott
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Canada1043 Posts
January 15 2016 10:12 GMT
#1276
Koshi you're green. I'm an idiot for checking you, I know.
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Canada1043 Posts
January 15 2016 16:55 GMT
#1286
If I go in to the other people I couldn't trust my results, at least that was my thought process. If I had more time I almost definitely would have picked someone else.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 15 2016 20:53 GMT
#1292
I seriously believe noon is purposefully trying to be lynch bait so he can get out of this game.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 16 2016 03:05 GMT
#1300
On January 15 2016 08:37 nooniansoong wrote:
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On January 15 2016 08:30 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 15 2016 08:24 nooniansoong wrote:
i cant believe scum didn't nk me for my sick reads

fucking do something jesus


i will but first tell me why you named yourself after that random ass book

ahem
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 16 2016 19:56 GMT
#1308
On January 16 2016 14:01 Eden1892 wrote:
Don't sweat it Giygas. If he's town then we'll just request a ban for playing against win condition. Ez

Can you actually do this?
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 16 2016 21:21 GMT
#1311
On January 17 2016 04:58 nooniansoong wrote:
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On January 17 2016 04:56 GiygaS wrote:
On January 16 2016 14:01 Eden1892 wrote:
Don't sweat it Giygas. If he's town then we'll just request a ban for playing against win condition. Ez

Can you actually do this?

Nope

noon plz
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 16 2016 21:24 GMT
#1312
On January 15 2016 14:10 scott31337 wrote:
Got really busy at work guys - but I wanted to put out my thoughts. I'll try to jump on more tomorrow.

In order from town to scummy

1. GiygaS - Cop not CC'ed (I feel for ya bud, I was a two shot tracker that claimed one shot, and got disrespected too)
9. Koshi - He's shitting his town rainbow style, he's angry - yes, he does this when his town fails him.
11. GGTeMpLaR - He's playing well, and shooting it out -
2. Eden1892 - He feels town - I know he was trying to prove everyone wrong with the "TS was town" - but it needed to happen.
7. darthfoley - He did so well D1 - I need to read him more -
10. VayneAuthority - I want to believe in Rayn's meta read on you - from what I've obs'ed - it's rarely wrong, but he isn't perfect either.
5. Nooniansoong - he is nothing but one liners. I'm happy to vote him.
4. mderg - I'm his D3 mislynch from my view - speaks very little about me and now would be happy to lynch me. I still don't like his late vote d1 - the vet's say it's NAI, ehh, Milo bit me in the ass before on this.

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Canada1043 Posts
January 17 2016 01:19 GMT
#1327
I've given most of my reads. But yeah I'll try and clarify them some more before eon
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Canada1043 Posts
January 17 2016 23:30 GMT
#1351
Shit I completely forgot. Sorry guys and gg
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 19 2016 21:47 GMT
#1438
On January 20 2016 06:10 Koshi wrote:
should probably nominate this town for best town 2016. If we don't win we blame Giygas.

QQ
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 20 2016 01:20 GMT
#1462
On January 20 2016 10:14 Koshi wrote:
Oh I forgot.

I also want to thank Artanis and cohost.

Good setup and perfect hosting.

^
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