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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 19 2016 21:58 GMT
#1441
On January 20 2016 06:39 Koshi wrote:
ggs bros. Town did very well this game. We really did good.

ALSO: you my nigga Koshi sorry I got mad at you d2. You got my head back in the game
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
January 19 2016 22:00 GMT
#1442
On January 20 2016 06:44 darthfoley wrote:
I'm just not sure... what was the point of having a framer/no cop setup possibility? Doesn't that make framer useless? Or does it just allow someone to fake claim cop and convolute the game significantly?

The idea is just that mafia doesn't instantly know the setup from the get-go. They get partial information, but a little bit more than town.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 19 2016 22:01 GMT
#1443
Some people might say that I was exactly on the whole scumteam during D1
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 19 2016 22:02 GMT
#1444
On January 20 2016 06:58 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 06:39 Koshi wrote:
ggs bros. Town did very well this game. We really did good.

ALSO: you my nigga Koshi sorry I got mad at you d2. You got my head back in the game

Your d2 made me lock town on you. I still remember you being a crazy mofo and claiming there probably was a framer and a godfather vs a cop in XXX. Claiming the greencheck to be mafia after the framer died. Holy fuck did I hate you that game. I was a bit grumpy overall that game though.

Anyway, maybe we could have town heroes and not lynch Tubesock. But I somewhere felt that Tubesock into Kush would be better.
I had a good night of sleep.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 19 2016 22:02 GMT
#1445
On January 20 2016 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 06:44 darthfoley wrote:
I'm just not sure... what was the point of having a framer/no cop setup possibility? Doesn't that make framer useless? Or does it just allow someone to fake claim cop and convolute the game significantly?

The idea is just that mafia doesn't instantly know the setup from the get-go. They get partial information, but a little bit more than town.


This.

Good attempt Darth, inactive scum team stinks but hope to see you around on at another game here.

gg wp town.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 19 2016 22:03 GMT
#1446
On January 20 2016 07:01 mderg wrote:
Some people might say that I was exactly on the whole scumteam during D1

true. voting 2 mafia EoD1 and your first case was on darthfoley.

Goddamn we were good as a town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 22:06:48
January 19 2016 22:05 GMT
#1447
hahahaha Trfel his post nr 26 in the obs qt


Trfrel (funny part at the bottom):
Welp, I decided to read the game. Skimmed some of it, like the parts about players I wasn't interested in early on. Bad me, but yeah whatever. I'm not playing XD

If Artanis actually spoiled that Koshi is blue, then he is a horrible person Because other than that, I kind of want to scumread Koshi?

Anyway, I really quickly skimmed the last ~5 pages XD They bored me.

I feel that slOosh is town because of the way that he pushed Koshi (at the start, and also sort of the followup; I think that it's counter-intuitive for scum to ignore their scumread as they're posting), and because he pointed out some things that I had noticed about less active players.

Looking through Koshi's posts, his activity is quite high; if he's mafia, he can't survive playing like this. It's more likely that he is town and my random suspicions are incorrect, even without the blue thing.

Giygas' game involvement decreased substantially since he was townread. I don't think that the reason for townreading him early on was good, either. One thing that really stood out to me about Giygas' posts were his series of posts (starting at post #195). Protesting the reasons he was townread, and explaining why to a townread of his, seems strange from town. The way he suddenly told VayneAuthority to stop pushing slOosh (after just retracting his scum read of slOosh), and later ending in a scum lean on VayneAuthority, seems weird as well. Then, he scumread mderg for inactivity, then nooniansoong when raynpelikoneet mentioned him, then didn't scumread Eden1892 despite noticing that he only had one post...

There isn't much mafia motivation here, just things that I find a bit strange from a town perspective, which isn't as important. The mafia motivation is the way that his activity dropped after being townread, and the dissonance between saying he wants more thread presence and then not doing anything despite being unhappy with the current wagon. I guess he's very likely town, but what he does next will be very telling for the motivation. Were I in the game, I'd probably just not say this and wait XD But oh well, I can make this stupid post so everyone can pick on me for not seeing an obvious townread early in the game. Whatever.

Eden1892 is town for useful and insightful comments in general, too lazy to get examples. Okay, his VayneAuthority read was an example.

Mderg's posting feels more suspicious, he often feels present but not really interacting / not really doing anything. His first several posts are the best example of this.

VayneAuthority is town because his choices of push (slOosh and Eden1892) aren't natural targets for mafia.

Tubesock complaining about people getting easy townreads for dumbtells feels like whiny mafia losing mislynches. Ignoring the rest for now, incomplete read XD

Raynpelikoneet is town for thread involvement, as per Artanis' chart. No reason thinking about him anyway, NKs will clear it up if he's mafia.

GGTeMpLaR's posts feel very natural to me, it's largely the same mindset that I can easily relate to. There were some other things that made me think that he was town, but whatever, laziness XD

Town: Eden1892, slOosh, Koshi, VayneAuthority, GGTeMpLaR, raynpelikoneet
Mafia: mderg, maybe Gigyas and Tubesock
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 19 2016 22:11 GMT
#1448
the rayn salt is real. poor rayn. I shall only remember post 73 & 74:
Now just see then lynch VA and then never lynch kush and he wins the game...
This is what happens in my towngames..

Oh they are trying to lynch darthfoley (who is also town) instead....



Jeez raynie, you know I totally always read filters multiple times and respect the NKs.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 19 2016 22:20 GMT
#1449
Goddamn. I am trying to find a MVP but it is just the entity of town in general. maybe GGtemplar was the best filter in the least amount of posts.
I had a good night of sleep.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 19 2016 22:26 GMT
#1450
Let's just say the whole town deserves to be MVP because we were so incredibly good.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 19 2016 22:27 GMT
#1451
On January 20 2016 07:26 mderg wrote:
Let's just say the whole town deserves to be MVP because we were so incredibly good.

I had a good night of sleep.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 19 2016 22:41 GMT
#1452
I'm gonna be That Guy and suggest that town didn't play especially, notably well / above average. I think we did just fine, and had a lot of circumstances beyond our control break in our favor -- all the mafia aside from darth being too busy to really play, both our blues being plausible mislynches prior to claiming, and hitting the mafia rb off of 3 votes day 1.

Certainly I don't think we did poorly or anything. I am just thankful we collectively were able to do our jobs, and be rewarded with a strong victory. But no one's play particularly impressed me save ray, who appropriately got n1'd.

Rather, it was a workmanlike victory: everyone did their jobs, played their assigned roles competently, and fortune made a reasonable performance into a strong victory.



I am happy that we managed to keep the thread mostly civil and free of ego (and apologize for any part I played in undermining that). One of the criminally undervalued components of a "good town atmosphere" is creating an environment where players are above all motivated to find mafia, which includes keeping personal shit to a minimum (so as to make the players focus on scumhunting instead of their own egos). Lots of towns in TL Mafia struggle with this, and I am proud to say that my teammates made this a total non-issue. I think this played a very big role in the lack of mislynches in this game.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
January 19 2016 22:42 GMT
#1453
Good job! I was wrong on mderg, but the town played well. GG's all, thanks for the game.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 19 2016 22:43 GMT
#1454
On January 20 2016 07:20 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I am trying to find a MVP but it is just the entity of town in general. maybe GGtemplar was the best filter in the least amount of posts.

I am not sure about MVP (as you could argue he wasn't a very integral component of our victory at all), but ray was definitely the best townie this game to me.


Agree with mderg that there wasn't a clear MVP. This was a very blue collar game, lots of people just doing their jobs and the team being rewarded for it with a win.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 19 2016 22:53 GMT
#1455
Jeezus Eden. You need more America in you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 19 2016 23:08 GMT
#1456
But blue collar teamwork is the bedrock of American success and the reason we're the best country ever to grace Earth's surface...
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 23:31:49
January 19 2016 23:11 GMT
#1457
On January 20 2016 08:08 Eden1892 wrote:
But blue collar teamwork is the bedrock of American success and the reason we're the best country ever to grace Earth's surface...

Jeezus Eden. Don't you understand anything? You should only utter those words when you are part of the 1% and are planning to be going screwing over a bunch of plebeians to achieve greater wealth.

But your cynicism indicates you might not fully believe in the Ameritude. The American Way.


Luckily you can be cured. Sing along 5 times to honor the future president of the Earth.
+ Show Spoiler +

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Cowardice
Are you serious?
Apologies for freedom
I can’t handle this!

When freedom rings
Answer the call
On your feet
Stand up tall
Freedom’s on our shoulders
USA!

Enemies of freedom
Face the music
Come on, boys - take ‘em down!
‘Cause the Donald Trump knows how
To make America great
Deal from strength or get crushed every time.

Over here
USA!
Over there
USA!
Freedom and liberty everywhere

Oh, say can you see
It’s not so easy
But we have to stand up tall
And answer freedom’s call

USA! USA! USA!
We’re the land of the free and the brave
USA! USA!

The stars and stripes are flying
Let’s celebrate our freedom
Inspire, proudly, freedom to the world

Ameritude
USA!
American pride
USA! It’s attitude, it’s who we are Stand up tall

We’re the red, white, and blue
Fiercely free, that’s who!
Our colors don’t run, no sirree

Over here
USA!
Over there
USA!

Freedom and liberty everywhere
Oh, say can you see
It’s not so easy
But we have to stand up tall
And answer freedom’s call!
I had a good night of sleep.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 19 2016 23:16 GMT
#1458
>part of the 1%
>Communist
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 20 2016 00:08 GMT
#1459
What's the win % for town/mafia on TL? I know it depends on the variation, but generally...?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2016 01:12 GMT
#1460
There is a sticky thread in mafia forum. Database is in title. Cant link cuz on phone. Isnt updated a lot. But might give you an idea. Imo the mafia level of play herr is pretty awesome and I love the forum layout. Used to be better because now the timers are so strange. Nobody cares if a post was 1 hour ago. I can count it out if needed. I need to know exactly when a post was made. To the second. Anyway. I am rambling. I just want to say statistics dont say much. 1 player can totally shift balance. Also, most all setups are mafia favored to standrad mafia games because we dont give blue roles a lot of power. Normally.
I had a good night of sleep.
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