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On January 11 2016 05:54 slOosh wrote: + Show Spoiler [I Still Can't Believe it'…] + On June 06 2015 10:00 VayneAuthority wrote: i think mig is still a good lynch tbh, all this confirmed is that the guy is town and giving a genuine opinion on mig. On June 07 2015 05:47 VayneAuthority wrote: Chezinu is a good lynch tbh if im going to actually try this game again. I don't think its feasible to make it happen today though perhaps next cycle On June 07 2015 06:09 VayneAuthority wrote: i dont think yamato is mafia but dont mind if he dies. hes basically just IamRobik except he doesnt ever get warned for behavior somehow even though every post he makes is a personal insult + Show Spoiler [VII Titanic Mini Mafia: I Have a Cunni…] + On February 15 2015 01:26 VayneAuthority wrote: Kelsier is tricky, I think he just likes making really bad posts that come across as forced scum posts. He did this last game too and he was town. He seems to do the same thing to me and reads my posts as scum every game On February 15 2015 09:29 VayneAuthority wrote: rayn when you read this tell me how similar you find BH to his persona as Old Partner in golden sun. when I read his posts I feel like he is talking to other people and having a laugh. Reminds me of that game with how forced he is pushing this agenda with these long awful posts On February 16 2015 04:42 VayneAuthority wrote: idk i actually think its a shitty read reading over his filter again but generally he has only asked for other people's scumreads and their opinions and stuff, lots of questions but nothing from him. He townreads various random people but I dont feel like he is exactly trying to solve the game here. African Horn Mafia he looked much different in from what I observed + Show Spoiler [Unoriginal Name Mafia] + On January 09 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote: just sloosh's weird comments and nitpicking completely useless things and telling others to do the work He's struggling to create a filter most likely mafia On January 10 2016 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote: Maybe its meta, I honestly dont know many of these players. Guess I should look up Eden because his filter looks like a good scumplayer to me I don't know if that is true or not On January 10 2016 04:26 VayneAuthority wrote: If i really had to pick, mderg, but it is a very weak/generic read at this point Yes I do still think that he is putting even less effort into this game compared to the two mentioned. No he is not. In all of the games, based on the timeline, he has found 1 scumread he is pushing. I don't care if he has or hasn't got any off-hand comments about other people that don't really say anything. | ||
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On January 11 2016 06:08 Koshi wrote: You think Tubesock is a better shot than Boxer? I think the aggression in his case on me was to compensate his lack of real scumhunting emotions. I also find him to be more appealing than normally. More moderate. Hard to explain. Dnu. Really think his filter looks mafia. But Tubesock can really be mafia. I am just thinking boxer is the better lynch if we got to pick one out them. Tubesock might do something later. yes, the dude can't possibly think i am more likely to be mafia than non-existent kush who he doesn't even seem to have a read on (townread based on one question is fucking bullshit). | ||
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If you are not purposefully throwing the game then every single thing you say has a townie agenda that you can explain. It must have, there is no other option. Telling people why they should reasonably scumread you is not an explanation -- because you already claim you are doing something that is not townie. It's really simple. Townies do townie things. Townies never do scummy things. Townies don't say the things they do are a reason to scumread them, they EXPLAIN why the things they do are townie. | ||
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Nooniansoong/boxerfred/Tubesock/Kmatt. Easily. Kmatt is just a coin-flip. I guess people aren't gonna believe me on kush. boxerfred is an okay lynch. Tubesock is scum. | ||
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Normally people react to the accusations on them the following way: "why the fuck does this guy call me scum? i am town and i am clearly trying to help the town." or even if they are more "sensitive" in a way they produce their posts it's something along the lines of; "okay so i can get why this guy calls me scum. i am not scum though, so i will try to make my best to explain why i said what he scumreads me for". The way Tubesock does it is completely different. First of all he is using his "scummy" (which isn't scummy for him after all?) behavior to promote his case on GiygaS in a shitty way, like "this is not a reason to call me scum -- this would be understandable". It is hard to explain, the last time this happened many people didn't ever get that... It's like, he is downplaying himself to saying "yes i was playing bad" but at the same time saying he wasn't really playing bad. Fuck.. idk how to explain it. What would your reaction be if i called you scum for any post of yours? (not to even mention Tubesock kinda covered all his filter at that point -- and said HIMSELF he was playing non-optimally). | ||
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Tubesock basically claims he wasn't trying to do that at all the first 24h of the game. | ||
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On January 11 2016 06:49 slOosh wrote: I understand what you are saying but I still think it's something a town could do. It's like if you were playing town, and (b/c of active mafia mudslinging or something) people suspect you as mafia for a certain vote sequence. Then some dude comes along and says "you know, I think rayn is mafia, because he didn't use as many exclamation marks in his posts that he usually does". You would somewhat understand if people bandwagon for reasons that are out there, but it's really strange for someone to be bringing in reasons that don't make sense. Except that GiygaS' reasoning is very clear. Very very clear and makes sense, especially when taken his explanation and comparing it to how he presented the argument. You can't just do this: - Well GiygaS is scum for A. - But he didn't do A, he in fact did B. - Well, GiygaS is scum for A. The whole argument in itself is a misrepresentation of GiygaS posts and motivation behind them, and Tubesock doesn't even consider that when GiygaS and me BOTH explain why this is the case.. Instead he just keeps hammering the same point, which simply cannot be true as it is basically proven false (unless he wants to argue why the explanation does not make sense -- which he isn't doing either). | ||
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On January 11 2016 07:01 Tubesock wrote: My admitting my 3 posts were scummy is meant to show that GiygaS's read is fabricated. see you admitted you did something scummy. | ||
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And again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again THIS IS NOT WHAT HE DID!?!?! Are you just incapable of reading people's posts or why are you this obtuse? | ||
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On January 11 2016 07:04 slOosh wrote: The point that Tubesock is making is that while there is nothing wrong with that, it's weird to vote for someone because of it. GiygaS is voting for Tubesock because he found it scummy that he has an unexplained townreads on you and kush -- which he considers UNREASONABLE because Tubesock literally states his reads on you two are easy townreads -- which means they are strong! If GiygaS himself reads you two town has fucking nothing to do with the fact that calling you and kush, at that point of the game STRONG TOWNREADS is just simply UNREASONABLE and cannot be explained in a townie way (look at the fucking explanation Tubesock gives to this later on -- "the reads were early, therefore easy", wtf is this bullshit????). Tubesock pushes a different matter than this, he pushes GiygaS for a narrative that if he reads the same people town than he does, he cannot scumread him. That is just simply untrue, this game doesn't work like that. I often times ask people why they scumread the same people i do because often times people do not see the same things i do. Later on GiygaS even explains why Tubesock's case is a misrepresentation (yes, everything he has said since comes to this point -- and "other people scumreading me too" is not a reason to NOT scumread anyone, ever). It is very easy to tell GiygaS is most likely telling the truth here because in the first place he literally asked about JUST those two reads. The explanation fits the motivation. Instead of arguing why this is not the case Tubesock ignores the explanation and keeps on pushing the original point. And THAT is scummy. | ||
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On January 11 2016 07:04 Tubesock wrote: This is correct. This isn't what happened. Except that's literally what your original case says. Here i quote it for you: On January 10 2016 15:26 Tubesock wrote: ##Vote: GiygaS My TR's "were really odd". Yet compare them and notice GiygaS has the same ones. You can argue that I town VayneAuthority while GiygaS nulls him. But then I put VA in the same group as two others where I say something was bothering me about them yet I was not willing to lynch him. So, you can argue I null him instead. I don't care how you label it, "null", "slight/could be/ has a chance at being town", "I have no idea" whatever it isn't really relevant. It is clear it is not a strong read in either direction. The point is GiygaS and my reads are essentially equal. As in we are reading hte same game. How can my reads possibly be "weird" in his eyes? GiygaS cites Darthfoley's case on me. Darth's case is basically how the fuck can SloOsh and Noon be "easy town reads"? and my only commentary uses vagueness tone and he didn't like the phrase "weird scuzzies". BUT GiygaS goes with the "yeah weird town reads!" Why? well because Rayne, Koshi and Eden already said they think I am mafia. Koshi I htink it was already pointed out what a good point (weird statement) the easy town reads of Sloosh and Noon are. So, GiygaS KNOWS he has support and won't be questioned about this weird reads thing. GiygaS can give some reasons make it look like a case so he's doing something AND he knows he has the support of the 3 strongest thread presences. He won't have to fight them or do much to convince them. GiygaS should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. His case if he were town would include things like how I scum claimed, bitched and whined about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when I was called out for it I bailed scummily. That I have 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe I was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe. If you are going to make a case, it should be something like Tubesock's Tubesock is mafia case. Not, wow we have the same reads but Tubesocks town reads are so weird! There is plenty to case me on beyond just what Darth has said without needing to parrot the most active posters. Literally everything after that is making conclusions based on the narrative you invented. | ||
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On January 10 2016 20:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: GiygaS why do YOU townread slOosh and kush? | ||
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Maybe you make sense maybe not. idk. ##unvote ##vote Nooniansoong I am pretty sure kush is scum and i kinda have doubts on boxerfred being scum here. Basically me and Koshi pushed him at the start of the game to play, and he knows -- or should assume that if he doesn't play properly he will most likely get lynched. Idk.. i think it might make him look like town. kush on the other hand is still doing nothing. And again, there are these unexplained townreads on him. Nobody wants to lynch him and the rest of the game is basically inactive when the lynch is between tube/boxerfred. I believe kush is the best lynch here. | ||
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On January 11 2016 07:32 Koshi wrote: Yeah kush is playing exactly the same as last towngame. no | ||
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I can tell that from the first 5 posts of him form that game. | ||
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