[M][N] Unoriginal Name Mini Mafia - Page 36

On January 11 2016 08:10 Tubesock wrote:


There is. But you don't deserve the answer.

On January 11 2016 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

are u mad bcz scumbuddy flipped?

On January 09 2016 07:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
The game setup is one of the following four:
A: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Named VT, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon
B: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
C: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
D: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Veteran, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon

On January 11 2016 08:12 slOosh wrote:
They way that the lynch worked out, I wouldn't be surprised if the counter wagon of noonian was also scum. I still would like not-rayn people to help me understand not-meta reads. Because I don't / can't meta.'

Right now I have him null leaning scum for low post count. But I can't see how you can get totes mcgoats scum or totes mcgoats town without meta.

On January 11 2016 08:17 darthfoley wrote:
I second that motion. I want to hear what he has to say now that we got a scum flip day 1 lynch

On January 11 2016 08:18 Tubesock wrote:
I think mafia Rayne would have hammered/stayed on me and saved Boxer.

On January 11 2016 08:17 mderg wrote:

I did end up voting kush but there was nothing totes mcgoats at all today. For me he was almost the same as boxerfred, "Don't know where I should place my vote and he has a chance to be scum"

On January 11 2016 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

who? me?

On January 11 2016 08:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:

obviously, especially since Koshi was willing to vote with me.
Maybe you are town after all.

On January 11 2016 06:08 Koshi wrote:

You think Tubesock is a better shot than Boxer?

I think the aggression in his case on me was to compensate his lack of real scumhunting emotions. I also find him to be more appealing than normally. More moderate. Hard to explain. Dnu. Really think his filter looks mafia.

But Tubesock can really be mafia. I am just thinking boxer is the better lynch if we got to pick one out them. Tubesock might do something later.

On January 11 2016 08:21 slOosh wrote:
Hey rayn, I was wondering if you could help me understand what I should expect from town VA vs scum VA tomorrow. Because my current pool is noon, kmatt / scott and if its not both of them then VA.

On January 10 2016 01:08 boxerfred wrote:
Liking Rayn, not liking Koshi here.


This feels like a pre-lynch excuse for potentially lynching outside of ongoing wagons. Like, scum thinking "what if I have

to bus?". Also, this can be a very easy scum thing: mislynch a scummy inactive player D1. Such as, well I tend to be.

The setup speculation felt very forced, especially as an entry to the thread.


Yeah, I know, a joke, I get it. Or, the truth, abandoning the initial game plan. I can see Koshi going "LET'S LYNCH BF D1"

in the scum qt because I played the last game with him and well, I was a scummy inactive guy. Although I was VT.

Then:


Nitpicking on those posts. I don't think that this kind of post is really alignment indicative, given it's D1.


Then, this. After a weak push on Sloosh, he goes vor a kinda random vote on Nooniansong, who's inactive. Pressure vote or

mislynch setup?

Not liking Koshi, not at all. Also, Rayn, you look the most towny in here for me, so why do you always agree with Koshi? Is

he totes town or what?

##vote Koshi

thats it for the day.

On January 10 2016 01:51 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


I've already explained my initial townread on Kush and I haven't really seen anything I strongly scumread from him since

then.

Regarding your arguments against him here - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/501039-unoriginal-name-mini-mafia?

page=14#266

I think your first point about his pre-lynch excuse for lynching outside ongoing wagons made me thinking 'that's a sick

play as mafia', but it seems like you've determined he's scum and attached this motive to his play when you could just read

it at face value as well, which is what I feel is a more accurate interpretation.

I also think your analysis of his joke about wanting to lynch you is somewhat paranoid.

The nitpicking you mentioned from him was awkward but I didn't find it scummy.

Lastly, I disagree with your analysis of his vote on Noon.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/501039-unoriginal-name-mini-mafia?page=12#221

I still think Koshi is town and that the arguments for him being scum are entirely unconvincing.

On January 10 2016 03:01 slOosh wrote:

I like darth's posting thus far. He engages in topics that are relevant to the thread at the time and gives fleshed out

explanations.


I believe that mderg's read shows that he isn't reading the thread closely.

If he was, (or if he was at least reading darthfoley closely), he should have seen this post.
I would also suspect that he should also have been able to point out darthfoley's mistake in time order, as Koshi

posted what he did before my spurt of posting, before I was an "active poster".

Furthermore, I don't get the sense that he is actually trying to convince anyone. He is throwing out a read, explaining it,

but that's it. Looks like he is trying to keep up appearances.



I liked this post from boxerfred. He thinks Koshi is scum, and first thing he does is question why other people have town

reads on him. He actually looks engaged in wanting either others convinced to lynch Koshi or himself convinced that Koshi

is town.

On January 10 2016 04:00 darthfoley wrote:


Yea I see what you're saying. It was contradictory, because he does end up following the outline that he posted early on.

I'm rescinding my Koshi vote for now.

I have spun myself in circles trying to read some of the active posters, so here's what I think on some of the less active

people:

VA- I filtered his posts and I found very little substance.

+ Show Spoiler +

First, he blindly comments on how logic tells us we're playing on setup 3, with no actual logic. Maybe this is a joke I

missed or something? Then, he gets the ball rolling on Sloosh, tells everyone he's bad at Mafia, ties him to another player

some people (e.g. me) don't know, and peaces out. He's generated pages of discussion on someone without having to

contribute to it at all. This is pretty scummy to me

mderg- You conveniently missed my follow up post re GGTemplar and how I misread what he wrote. I thought he was talking

about toning down day 1 accusations, not early read defending in the late game. I don't have a read on mderg but I'm

surprised you missed a post that doesn't follow the narrative of me being scum

boxerfred- I like the way he has posted. He's analyzing/questioning peoples' judgments on the Koshi town read. He hasn't

just given town reads or scum reads, he included both which is most helpful for the town.

##Unvote: Koshi
##Vote: VayneAuthority

That's all I have for now

On January 10 2016 12:11 GiygaS wrote:
I'm gonna ladder a bit and come back, but before I do

##Vote tubesock

His last posts townreads were really odd. Basically My list is (roughly from scummy to less scummy)

tubesock: not much more to say on him that darth already hasn't

mderg: says easy things that are easy to say. his darth case is the only real content he has and it doesn't feel very

substantial. Feels like he went looking around for something to read on, made the post and moved on. He's not pushing his

read anymore, and hasn't even really talked about it again.

---- Line of scumminess ---

kmatt: baby come back
VA: I want to believe that his matter of fact tone makes him town, but I just can't given the things I'm reading about his

reputation

---- Line of towniness ---

noon
boxer
koshi
ggtemp: If he was mafia he would have used his supposed inexperience as a shield.
sloosh

---- Line of more-towniness ---

darth
eden
rayn

There's very likely a mafia in my town reads as I'm really not sure about a lot of them, but I want to lynch mderg or

tubesock as it stands now.

On January 10 2016 15:39 Tubesock wrote:
I've added Darthfoley and mderg to my townpile.

Darth because I really liked his interaction with Eden, and I can absolutely see why he would think both VA and I are scum.

To me whatever he is using for his heuristic is consistent and seems logical.

mderg because of TONE HA!

Yes, my 3 lynch possiblities are GiygaS then boxerfred/Kmatt (essentially plynches).

On January 11 2016 07:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Tubesock (4): Koshi, GiygaS, Raynpelikoneet, darthfoley
boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, mderg, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred

Not voted (1): Kmatt

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Currently, Tubesock is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or

to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in

this thread.

On January 11 2016 07:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, slOosh, Koshi
Tubesock (2): GiygaS, darthfoley
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
nooniansoong (2): raynpelikoneet, mderg
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred

Not voted (1): Kmatt

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Currently, boxerfred is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or

to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in

this thread.