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raynpelikoneet
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On January 09 2016 11:41 Koshi wrote: They had a jk which is a medic. Can you explain to me ow this could ever make me mafia? I thought it could, as there is a possibility of you trying to cover your sayings based on something you didn't base them in the first place. i.e. the real setup --> the example in OP. You are right, it doesn't mean anything most likely. | ||
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On January 09 2016 11:46 Tubesock wrote: Is this going to be another game where people get towned for dumb tells or not reading the OP? who is reading anyone town based on them not reading the OP? | ||
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On January 09 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote: just sloosh's weird comments and nitpicking completely useless things and telling others to do the work He's struggling to create a filter most likely mafia idk... i found his questions for me and GGTemplar to be quite decent. Like i agree that the question to GGT is weirdly worded but i found his first post odd aswell and basically thought about the same thing he did. | ||
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On January 09 2016 12:25 slOosh wrote: Hmm big things are you as strong town for picking up on similar things to me + more. GGTeMpLaR I also noticed his first post was kinda awkward, but I felt like he could very well be those townies that if you pressure they just ... react poorly? I'm not sure how to phrase it, but I don't think a direct pressure approach would work out. So I wanted him to post on something else to figure out if he is nervous b/c scum or nervous b/c newer player. Vayne ... I feel like he is reading me slightly more scum than someone reasonably could? Either that or his style of playing is very different to mine, almost like Oatsmaster or something if he is still around. No one else has too much for me. Okay so... I guess you asked me about GiygaS based on this post here: On January 09 2016 09:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have tentative townreads on kush, mderg, GiygaS and maybe Koshi. What makes you ask about GiygaS and not about any other reads of mine? I mean, why did you single out GiygaS over all the other people in this post? Also if you agree with my townread on GiygaS whay isn't he your townread atm? | ||
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On January 09 2016 12:40 slOosh wrote: I asked specifically about GiygaS because I took his initial wording as more scum vibe. It's really awkward that a VT would say "vanilla town" and not differentiate that he is talking about the Named VT, and I think blue roles are somewhat unlikely to want to talk about role claiming and whatnot, which leaves perhaps a careless scum post. I don't agree with the conclusion of your townread but I understand it and find it logical. Okay that makes sense. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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I liked his post where he stated he is going to be more active this game than usual. It is true that he usually (from what i remember) get scumread for lack of activity and promising more activity i conder to be a towntell -- since he could just "follow his inactive meta" as mafia and then, if people scumread him for it, say that it goes along with his meta and is not a reason to scumread him for. | ||
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actually nevermind, i retract from the townread on him. I totally misremembered what slOosh's scumplay looks like... | ||
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On January 09 2016 13:00 Koshi wrote: I agree that "Watch very closely" is a better status than "Don't think he is scum" Yeah i like.. I remembered the game on top of my head, the game Ver hosted a couple of years ago (where i think was the last time i saw slOosh play scum) --Sicilian mafia style. There i felt like slOosh had really hard time giving any opinion on anything and didn't follow up on his posts at all, couldn't explain himself at all. Which was different from the game i played on with him later on where he was town. I felt the early activity, him explaining himself and seemingly trying to figure out things made way more sense from him as town. Then i went to the database and looked his latest games. He's actually "nowadays" way more aggressive than he has been before, as town. And as scum... well not that much, but he still provides thoughts and shit. I actually think your argument on him being scum is at least reasonable. Too early to tell imo, but yes, it makes sense. | ||
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On January 09 2016 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah i agree that read on you VA is not good at all... It's like "well i think VA is scum but he could also be town if that's how he plays as town -- cba to figure out though". Like why give a conditional read like that when you can just go to the database and see if it checks out or not? | ||
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I don't think you should think this is alignment indicative. Koshi is most likely telling the truth about not reading the setup on p5 (game start) as if he was lying and covering up later he would have covered up properly (he also misread the OP rofl).  So the only conclusion is Koshi was being dumb, as either alignment. | ||
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On January 09 2016 13:27 GiygaS wrote: There's still no named vt in the op, so it can't be the difference between anything if you're basing it on that. boxer = named VT | ||
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On January 09 2016 13:37 GiygaS wrote: Currently feeling weird about mderg and sloosh. Sloosh for reasons other people are giving, and I find it weird that mderg showed up, talked about my question (NAI) then peaced out for no good reason. Is there a reason why this is scummy/weird for mderg but not for kush? | ||
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I understand the townie motive on the "makes sense" thingy Eden is questioning you about (although you can probably answer him on it yourself). What i don't understand is the following: - You scumread GiygaS - You ask me why i townread him. - I tell you why i townread him. - You say it makes sense but don't agree with the conclusion. (although you only state that later on, but it happens here) - I ask you for your reads. - You tell me one of the people who doesn't stand out is GiygaS Now how do the red and the green part go together? There should be nothing inbetween that makes you change your mind on GiygaS from "scum" --> "doesn't stand out" (no, the bolded part doesn't do that as you literally state that you don't agree with me). | ||
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On January 09 2016 17:27 Eden1892 wrote: You do read what I say! I am curious why you and slOosh seemed to just mutually drop your conversation about your divergent reads on GiygaS. Weren't you a little curious why slOosh could read the same thing you did and conclude the exact opposite thing about GiygaS's alignment? There is no reason for me to answer this before slOosh does. I will after that. I will just say that coming to opposite conclusion (which is btw pretty strong wording here -- since i literally stated my read is "tentative") and concluding that the other person makes sense are not mutually exclusive. | ||
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