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Read some filters before you make wall of texts that make 0 fucking sense. And don't type 3 sentences about every person. Type around 150 about 1 person. Do something fucking useful.
How the fuck is Eden (who is the N1 kill in many recent games apparently) suddenly the shittiest player in this game? Because let's be honest. That pressure on Giygas D1 was fucking HORRIBLE. That was so fucking bad I townread Giygas 1584654361 times harder.
And then he claims there is mafia between tubesock and giygas.
-5 seconds later-
Giygas claims a redcheck on Tubesock and what is Eden his reaction?? TUBESOCK PRETTY MUCH 100% FRAMED BOIS
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Fucking Eden should be killed tbh.
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Wanted to give this some time and see what he did. But it is a fucking joke.
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Tubesock is going down today. If he flips town the cop we outplayed by mafia and towncop played horrible. If he flips mafia we will see. Pretty sure game is close to solved. Just need to lynch Eden or VA probably.
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Also Eden using rayn his nightkill to frame Kush in his reads.
So freaking pathetic.
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Fucking waste of a day.
- redcheck we can't trust and are forced to lynch
- a person getting lynched making cases on confirmed town by setup. Literally not doing anything else.
- some guy rehearsing things that happened. If nothing happened around a person he calls them town, if a person lynches mafia and is almost impossible mafia he calls them, wait for it, mafia. of course.
- VA, who is awesome but untrustable.
- Scott
- Some guy who can't read the OP, and probably will get misslynched.
- Top tier player who is trash
- Mderg who is lost somewhere, I am not sure if I should alert the cops.
Brilliant. At least we had D1.
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Riddle me this, who is mafia out of those 2
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there is 1 guy who people thinks is a good player who has solely attacked (now) confirmed townies during the entire entity of D1 and only came back at the very end of the day to defend a mafia and suggest to lynch between giygas and Tubesock.
On January 11 2016 07:55 Eden1892 wrote:
Lynching boxerfred for being not useful feels like a massive cop out. But I'm too far behind to have a useful alternative so I'm not gonna object (and promise not to complain too much if he flips town, it's as much my fault as anyone else's).
I'd rather one of giygas or tube sock though. Pref giygas
who then during the night was completely useless but made a testament AGAIN saying there is mafia between giygas and tubesock, for reasoning he found during D1.
who then during the start of D2 when it became clear giygas was cop and got a redcheck on Tubesock, said that tubesock was very likely framed. But waffled on it a bit and waited and waited and waited and then just followed suit and voted Tubesock reluctantly because you know, "poker reasons"
Or the other guy who has been solving the game, lynched mafia, been attacked by mafia, been involved in everything, has the highest filter in the game, is generally townread, voted for the redcheck D1, and has really not made a single mafialike post in the entire game.
Who is the mafia guys? Who could it be?
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darthfoley is thinking about the second guy. He looks really bad I agree.
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Not true. You could have done way more with your role. Just remember for next time. Imagine if you make a really good case on tubesock instead of calling the redcheck. You might just get so much information with who attacks you etc etc.
But today is on the players themselves. People are too lackluster while there is so much info in the thread.
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On January 13 2016 10:33 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2016 10:15 Koshi wrote:Riddle me this, who is mafia out of those 2
there is 1 guy who people thinks is a good player who has solely attacked (now) confirmed townies during the entire entity of D1 and only came back at the very end of the day to defend a mafia and suggest to lynch between giygas and Tubesock. On January 11 2016 07:55 Eden1892 wrote:
Lynching boxerfred for being not useful feels like a massive cop out. But I'm too far behind to have a useful alternative so I'm not gonna object (and promise not to complain too much if he flips town, it's as much my fault as anyone else's).
I'd rather one of giygas or tube sock though. Pref giygas who then during the night was completely useless but made a testament AGAIN saying there is mafia between giygas and tubesock, for reasoning he found during D1. who then during the start of D2 when it became clear giygas was cop and got a redcheck on Tubesock, said that tubesock was very likely framed. But waffled on it a bit and waited and waited and waited and then just followed suit and voted Tubesock reluctantly because you know, "poker reasons" Or the other guy who has been solving the game, lynched mafia, been attacked by mafia, been involved in everything, has the highest filter in the game, is generally townread, voted for the redcheck D1, and has really not made a single mafialike post in the entire game. Who is the mafia guys? Who could it be? Well, there are multiple issues with your descriptions, like the part where I'm actually good, or have a reputation built off of anything besides being a loudmouth that talked way too highly of himself. But mainly I wonder who you mean by #2. There's multiple people who have played better than me, like everyone who lynched mafia day 1. If you're talking about yourself then you're clearly town and I have no clue what this crybaby tantrum is about because you're never being lynched.
It was provoked by a guy who called you lock town and me possible mafia. Same guy who made a wall of text but said nothing new, rehearsed dumb shit and was recently called town by you for it.
Anyway. I need sleep.
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On January 13 2016 18:20 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2016 07:15 darthfoley wrote:Okay I've read the last couple of pages and I will try to respond to everything that's been presented against me. I'll provide my reads currently Confirmed town: slOosh (named VT and no one can counterclaim), GiygaS (cop) ~100% confirmed town in my mind: GGTemplar. As I posted earlier, GGTemp was on the boxerfred wagon from the beginning, and I can't see a mafia strat including bussing your RB from almost the beginning of day 1. I'm less certain (but would bet) that Koshi is playing a good town game. However, I've rightly caught a lot of flak for being wishy washy on my voting habits; Koshi voted for four people during the day phase (Nooniansong, VA, Tubesock, Boxerfred). While unlikely, is it impossible for him to be on Tubesock, realize it won't go through, and switch to Boxerfred because the town cred for being on the correct lynch wagon vastly outweighs the benefit of having a suspiciously inactive mafia around that could eventually be tied back to you, even if it's the RB? Boxerfred in his kill post even said he realized he couldn't be active. I think smart mafia may be able to use that to their advantage in their QT thing. May i'm getting too tin-foil hatty here, or perhaps i'm sherlock holmes. This would basically confirm town Tubesock though, unless we somehow had two correct lynch wagons going on D1. Regarding VA, I just want to point this post out near the beginning of the game from Koshi.
3) VA is a master of pushing mafia agenda. If Sloosh isn't mafia the agenda is very intact. What I mean is: his options are still completely open to do w.e the fuck he wants to reach his wincon and help his team win.
If VA is either a smart town or good mafia, it makes sense why he would target me coming out N1 with a hard read on me. I've clearly been wishy washy on votes, misread posts, and haven't really led town discussion on anything, which signals weak first game town that can easily be made into a *ding ding ding, darth checks off all the mafia bells.* I understand why his case is compelling, except I haven't "feigned ignorance" like he says I have. I fully accept that I haven't been a strong town, but I haven't relied on the newbie crutch at all imo. If you guys end up lynching me, take good look at him when I come back green. I've gone through mderg's filter and I think he is probably town at this point; I don't think it would make sense to get off the Boxerfred wagon at that point in the day if he were trying to claim town cred for a correct lynch. While his filter is shorter than most, I don't see anything incriminating him currently. With the setup confirmed A, I think Tubesock is a potential frame target, however the EoD vote was so scattered that I could see mafia team including Tubesock deciding to not frame Tubesock to green. Given how his wagon kind of collapsed near the end of the day, there seemed to be some consensus that Tubesock was acting more townie. Personally i'm not very sold on the WIFOM "lynch me!" because isn't that exactly what you would do to come off as a town, willing to die for the good of the order? Noonian - I'm not sure what I think of Noonian at this point. While it doesn't make much sense for a mafia to defend someone who is likely to be lynched in the next day or two, it could also maybe(?) establish town creds when I flip green. Noon hasn't really given any reads besides his mderg+Eden hail mary, so that gives me some scum vibes. Scott - I don't want to beat a dead horse, but Scott's number 1-7 thing is pretty questionable. His excuse that he hadn't updated it when he posted it is also kind of silly: GGTemp being the same as me at 5.5, even though he advocated hard for boxerfred, and I didn't? I don't know why, if he's been reading the thread like he says he has, you would only have a "light" town read on GGTemp. I also don't think his case against mderg has any legs to stand on, leaving him with little substance even though he's posted a fair amount. He's my #2 lynch behind Tubesock. Eden - I think he's been especially strong since EoD1, making me fairly confident he's town. His discussion of mafia teams/lynch strategy make a lot of sense if you agree that either (but not both) me or Tubesock are mafia-- and most of you do. I realize this is the dreaded wall of text, but I haven't been able to post for a while soooooo 100% town: sloosh, giygas, ggtemplar pretty town: me, mderg shrug: noonian lynch: tubesock, scott koshi is ?????? you say probably a good townie game but then spend the rest of the paragraph talking about how he's mafia... va is "smart town or good mafia" who we should look at This is pretty uninspiring for me. Obvious town reads are obvious, made only slightly spicy by somehow not town reading Koshi as strongly as some other town reads. Obvious lynches are obvious. The thing that would actually help us solve this game is sorting out the trio of darthfoley, Vayne and kush. darth gives us very little about this -- his read on Vayne seems to imply that he thinks Vayne is mafia (see "when I flip green look at this guy"), but he starts off by saying "If VA were smart town or good mafia," his behavior makes sense. So all I learn from this is that darth doesn't think VA is dumb town. Great I guess, but not really helping. It's also strange to me that darth combines a very conceding treatment of VA's arguments (stuff like "I understand I haven't been a great townie" and the like), but then still thinks we should suspect VA. If VA's arguments are reasonable enough to force a concessive "I understand I haven't been a great townie" type of reaction, then why would VA be suspicious for giving such an argument? Shocking, I know, but this seems like a mafia reaction to me. Acknowledge your opponent has a point, but still try to paint your opponent as suspicious for making it. Not liking it. And then there's just not a lot said about Noonian either way, looks like a light scumread but darth isn't initiating a lot of conversation with Noonian to sort out his read. Especially given how Noonian should be near the top of his suspects list given his reads and the game state information we have, I'm -- surprise -- suspicious of darth here too.
This is all very weak stuff. It doesn't convince me of anything.
It are just a bunch of words without direction.
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I am looking for reasons to call Tubesock town beyond the redcheck. But the redcheck is so strong I don't want to. Especially that post Tubesock made during the night with "shoot me or lynch me but don't copcheck me" really bothers me. It is 100% wifom but it bothers me.
It is true Tubesock is doing things D2, but he is not solving the game. He made a case on confirmed town and now a case on mderg... While previously he said that we needed to look into all people except those 2.
The only problem that I have is that Tubesock voted giygas D1, while as mafia wouldn't it be better to be on the damn mafia lynch, or at least the townlynch that had momentum aka Kush? That being said, no other mafia was on the damn mafia lynch... So the argument is completely m00t except when ggtemplar is mafia and that is near impossible.
We still need to lynch Tubesock. And after that Eden.
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On January 14 2016 01:52 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2016 22:32 Koshi wrote:On January 13 2016 18:20 Eden1892 wrote:On January 13 2016 07:15 darthfoley wrote:Okay I've read the last couple of pages and I will try to respond to everything that's been presented against me. I'll provide my reads currently Confirmed town: slOosh (named VT and no one can counterclaim), GiygaS (cop) ~100% confirmed town in my mind: GGTemplar. As I posted earlier, GGTemp was on the boxerfred wagon from the beginning, and I can't see a mafia strat including bussing your RB from almost the beginning of day 1. I'm less certain (but would bet) that Koshi is playing a good town game. However, I've rightly caught a lot of flak for being wishy washy on my voting habits; Koshi voted for four people during the day phase (Nooniansong, VA, Tubesock, Boxerfred). While unlikely, is it impossible for him to be on Tubesock, realize it won't go through, and switch to Boxerfred because the town cred for being on the correct lynch wagon vastly outweighs the benefit of having a suspiciously inactive mafia around that could eventually be tied back to you, even if it's the RB? Boxerfred in his kill post even said he realized he couldn't be active. I think smart mafia may be able to use that to their advantage in their QT thing. May i'm getting too tin-foil hatty here, or perhaps i'm sherlock holmes. This would basically confirm town Tubesock though, unless we somehow had two correct lynch wagons going on D1. Regarding VA, I just want to point this post out near the beginning of the game from Koshi.
3) VA is a master of pushing mafia agenda. If Sloosh isn't mafia the agenda is very intact. What I mean is: his options are still completely open to do w.e the fuck he wants to reach his wincon and help his team win.
If VA is either a smart town or good mafia, it makes sense why he would target me coming out N1 with a hard read on me. I've clearly been wishy washy on votes, misread posts, and haven't really led town discussion on anything, which signals weak first game town that can easily be made into a *ding ding ding, darth checks off all the mafia bells.* I understand why his case is compelling, except I haven't "feigned ignorance" like he says I have. I fully accept that I haven't been a strong town, but I haven't relied on the newbie crutch at all imo. If you guys end up lynching me, take good look at him when I come back green. I've gone through mderg's filter and I think he is probably town at this point; I don't think it would make sense to get off the Boxerfred wagon at that point in the day if he were trying to claim town cred for a correct lynch. While his filter is shorter than most, I don't see anything incriminating him currently. With the setup confirmed A, I think Tubesock is a potential frame target, however the EoD vote was so scattered that I could see mafia team including Tubesock deciding to not frame Tubesock to green. Given how his wagon kind of collapsed near the end of the day, there seemed to be some consensus that Tubesock was acting more townie. Personally i'm not very sold on the WIFOM "lynch me!" because isn't that exactly what you would do to come off as a town, willing to die for the good of the order? Noonian - I'm not sure what I think of Noonian at this point. While it doesn't make much sense for a mafia to defend someone who is likely to be lynched in the next day or two, it could also maybe(?) establish town creds when I flip green. Noon hasn't really given any reads besides his mderg+Eden hail mary, so that gives me some scum vibes. Scott - I don't want to beat a dead horse, but Scott's number 1-7 thing is pretty questionable. His excuse that he hadn't updated it when he posted it is also kind of silly: GGTemp being the same as me at 5.5, even though he advocated hard for boxerfred, and I didn't? I don't know why, if he's been reading the thread like he says he has, you would only have a "light" town read on GGTemp. I also don't think his case against mderg has any legs to stand on, leaving him with little substance even though he's posted a fair amount. He's my #2 lynch behind Tubesock. Eden - I think he's been especially strong since EoD1, making me fairly confident he's town. His discussion of mafia teams/lynch strategy make a lot of sense if you agree that either (but not both) me or Tubesock are mafia-- and most of you do. I realize this is the dreaded wall of text, but I haven't been able to post for a while soooooo 100% town: sloosh, giygas, ggtemplar pretty town: me, mderg shrug: noonian lynch: tubesock, scott koshi is ?????? you say probably a good townie game but then spend the rest of the paragraph talking about how he's mafia... va is "smart town or good mafia" who we should look at This is pretty uninspiring for me. Obvious town reads are obvious, made only slightly spicy by somehow not town reading Koshi as strongly as some other town reads. Obvious lynches are obvious. The thing that would actually help us solve this game is sorting out the trio of darthfoley, Vayne and kush. darth gives us very little about this -- his read on Vayne seems to imply that he thinks Vayne is mafia (see "when I flip green look at this guy"), but he starts off by saying "If VA were smart town or good mafia," his behavior makes sense. So all I learn from this is that darth doesn't think VA is dumb town. Great I guess, but not really helping. It's also strange to me that darth combines a very conceding treatment of VA's arguments (stuff like "I understand I haven't been a great townie" and the like), but then still thinks we should suspect VA. If VA's arguments are reasonable enough to force a concessive "I understand I haven't been a great townie" type of reaction, then why would VA be suspicious for giving such an argument? Shocking, I know, but this seems like a mafia reaction to me. Acknowledge your opponent has a point, but still try to paint your opponent as suspicious for making it. Not liking it. And then there's just not a lot said about Noonian either way, looks like a light scumread but darth isn't initiating a lot of conversation with Noonian to sort out his read. Especially given how Noonian should be near the top of his suspects list given his reads and the game state information we have, I'm -- surprise -- suspicious of darth here too. This is all very weak stuff. It doesn't convince me of anything. It are just a bunch of words without direction. What's weak about it or lacking in direction? You're free not to be convinced, but my points are definitely good and the direction (darthfoley is mafia) should be very clear to anybody reading. You're complaining about a wasted day but then wasting your time on making a post like this?
It's a fucking shit read on darth. Nothing that you said made him mafia. Nothing.
- Obvious reads except 1 (what is mafia about it, everybody got fucking obvious reads in this game, and he has 2 unusual reads with me and you BT fucking Way)
- Says the VA read on him is understandable, but also says VA could be mafia jumping on lynchbait (what is mafia about pointing that out, it makes 100% sense)
- Not much about Kush (Why is that mafia? Why? And why does he need to have multiple strong mafia reads?? We are voting on a fucking redcheck which might mean only 1 mafia after this)
What else is there on your shitcase in your shitpost?
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Eden,
Explain to me and the thread why you have been yelling for 96 hours that there is 1 mafia between Giygas and Tubesock. You have made 5 "quality" posts the entire fucking game and they all said "there is 1 mafia between Giygas and Tubesock". You even came back from afkness right before deadline to tell us boxerfred was a bad lynch and that there was 1 mafia between Giygas and Tubesock. In your testament post right before EoN1 you said: "1 mafia between Giygas and Tubesock."
But then when Giygas says Tubesock is a redcheck suddenly Tubesock is framed????
How?
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On January 14 2016 03:36 Eden1892 wrote:
I think the "best" lynches are probably in that Vayne/kush duo. Both of them are too experienced at this game to be doing literal nothing. I am selfish and want my pet case on darthfoley to see a lynch though. Plus I don't have time before EOD to make a case worth a shit.
Stopped reading here. Are you serious?
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Going to ignore Tubesock till he is dead. So bad. Incredible.
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So 2 people think I am mafia over Eden.
That is special. Really special.
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