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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 15:23 GMT
#3534
I think alakaslam is more of a coinflip than trfel/exo/shining but I can't reallyconvince people of that.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 15:24 GMT
#3536
On January 04 2016 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kush talk to me about NM.


Yeah I'm not totally sure about that. NESS looked townie to me. I think he'd be more willing to fuck off as town. And I don't blame NM for not knowing what to do replacing into this shitfest.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 15:35 GMT
#3543
I think we should consolidate early so we can get a claim.

I'm not understanding something. Town only has 1 vig. But TT was vig and Ritoky claimed vig.
??
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 15:41 GMT
#3546
I could just as easily not know that as scum
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 15:44 GMT
#3548
So are we lynching alakaslam or what?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 19:31 GMT
#3590
Some quotes I found that help me think palmar is town. There's more but this is enough.

On December 29 2015 07:58 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 07:57 Rels wrote:
Well fuck you all. I'm going to sleep regardless of the flip. Good night

Such excited for the game he can't wait 3 minutes


This is a very good observation against rels that was made in the heat of the moment.
~~~

On December 29 2015 23:22 Palmar wrote:
Maybe scum:

Kush: Bad vote on me, called out Exo for things he didn't understand. He's been pretty shit all over
Artanis: he's being super reasonable and willing to listen to people. I know he isn't rayn or some other tunnel god, but still, it's a bit over the top how much he's trying to let other people form their own opinions and barely prodding it. Just like yesterday I didn't read his ows case I haven't read hf today and he doesn't really seem to care.

Probably scum:

GlowingBear: called me out in a really awkward way yesterday and then got into a argument I think. The main thing is that he was reading a conversation about a thing, and then asked about the very thing the conversation was about. It's 100% clear he wasn't actually reading the part of the thread he asked about, he just saw something and ran with it.

OK his kush read is terrible but palmar always has shit-tinted glasses when looking at me.
He goes a few levels deep on his artanis read.
He makes a clever and original point against GB.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 20:31 GMT
#3595
On January 04 2016 04:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 04:31 nooniansoong wrote:
Some quotes I found that help me think palmar is town. There's more but this is enough.

On December 29 2015 07:58 Palmar wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:57 Rels wrote:
Well fuck you all. I'm going to sleep regardless of the flip. Good night

Such excited for the game he can't wait 3 minutes


This is a very good observation against rels that was made in the heat of the moment.
~~~

On December 29 2015 23:22 Palmar wrote:
Maybe scum:

Kush: Bad vote on me, called out Exo for things he didn't understand. He's been pretty shit all over
Artanis: he's being super reasonable and willing to listen to people. I know he isn't rayn or some other tunnel god, but still, it's a bit over the top how much he's trying to let other people form their own opinions and barely prodding it. Just like yesterday I didn't read his ows case I haven't read hf today and he doesn't really seem to care.

Probably scum:

GlowingBear: called me out in a really awkward way yesterday and then got into a argument I think. The main thing is that he was reading a conversation about a thing, and then asked about the very thing the conversation was about. It's 100% clear he wasn't actually reading the part of the thread he asked about, he just saw something and ran with it.

OK his kush read is terrible but palmar always has shit-tinted glasses when looking at me.
He goes a few levels deep on his artanis read.
He makes a clever and original point against GB.


I don't understand what was so towny about his Rels observation.


It's a interesting reason to scumread someone.


On January 04 2016 04:34 Damdred wrote:
Where has Palomar been really pushy on had any impact at all reads wise

It's not really possible to do that when you haven't read most of the game.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 20:59 GMT
#3597
On January 04 2016 05:43 Damdred wrote:
It's palmar he totally pushes people when he hasn't read the game. What kind of read is that.

And everyone had that reaction to rels


d1 he does. he wasn't really there for d1.
His reaction to rels showed me he was thinking about rels' alignment in a way a townie would.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 21:18 GMT
#3599
On January 04 2016 06:16 Damdred wrote:
So him being sarcastic towards Rels is alignment indicative of palmar?

It was more than sarcasm. it was good reasoning why rels was scum.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 21:21 GMT
#3600
On December 31 2015 05:09 Palmar wrote:
And for the record, I'll rehash this later, I vastly prefer people trying to lynch me to people shooting me. Even if I end up getting lynched I guarantee you I will end up demanding everyone who votes for me to personally explain why they think I am mafia so that it's out there.

lynch-palmar-days are actually surprisingly productive sometimes.


To rather be lynched than shot is a very townie sentiment. Scum would rather be shot than lynched. I don't think scum would be able to put themselves in a townie mindset to the extent that they could think to express this.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 21:59 GMT
#3605
On January 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
You are trying to take null things kush and turn them into town type motives.

Most of the thread had reactions that were not dissimilar to what palmar posted. At best this is a null as scum are looking just as much as town where to put votes and more than likely palmar vote was already on Rels.

Secondly of course palmar doesn't want to be shot this is totally null.

1) Town palmar doesn't want to get shot because he's town and can help to try to win the game.

2) Scum palmar doesn't want to be shot because he's scum,and wants to,win. And thinks he can talk his way out of getting lynched with a large effort.

It's totally null, and I'm really concerned now that you are trying to tr palmar for such weak things.


It's more than him not wanting to get shot. It's that he rather get lynched than shot. I've been in the position that palmar is in as town so what he is saying rings true to me.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 22:00 GMT
#3606
On January 04 2016 06:58 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
You are trying to take null things kush and turn them into town type motives.

Most of the thread had reactions that were not dissimilar to what palmar posted. At best this is a null as scum are looking just as much as town where to put votes and more than likely palmar vote was already on Rels.

Secondly of course palmar doesn't want to be shot this is totally null.

1) Town palmar doesn't want to get shot because he's town and can help to try to win the game.

2) Scum palmar doesn't want to be shot because he's scum,and wants to,win. And thinks he can talk his way out of getting lynched with a large effort.

It's totally null, and I'm really concerned now that you are trying to tr palmar for such weak things.
I was about to make a post explaining this, but thanks Damdred for doing it for me.

Nooniansoong isn't trying to solve the game, he's just commenting and defending some people (mostly Palmar) instead of being interested in his scumreads. His latest defense of Palmar is a great example of this.


"isn't trying to solve the game" is exactly the type of generic wording scum loves to use when describing their fake scumreads.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 22:07 GMT
#3609
On January 04 2016 07:05 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:00 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 04 2016 06:58 Trfel wrote:
On January 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
You are trying to take null things kush and turn them into town type motives.

Most of the thread had reactions that were not dissimilar to what palmar posted. At best this is a null as scum are looking just as much as town where to put votes and more than likely palmar vote was already on Rels.

Secondly of course palmar doesn't want to be shot this is totally null.

1) Town palmar doesn't want to get shot because he's town and can help to try to win the game.

2) Scum palmar doesn't want to be shot because he's scum,and wants to,win. And thinks he can talk his way out of getting lynched with a large effort.

It's totally null, and I'm really concerned now that you are trying to tr palmar for such weak things.
I was about to make a post explaining this, but thanks Damdred for doing it for me.

Nooniansoong isn't trying to solve the game, he's just commenting and defending some people (mostly Palmar) instead of being interested in his scumreads. His latest defense of Palmar is a great example of this.


"isn't trying to solve the game" is exactly the type of generic wording scum loves to use when describing their fake scumreads.
Nooniansoong, can you please explain why you are scumreading me?


See the post of mine you just quoted.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 22:11 GMT
#3611
i explained why it's scummy in the post. Your scumreads lack depth on thought.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 22:22 GMT
#3613
On January 04 2016 07:15 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:11 nooniansoong wrote:
i explained why it's scummy in the post. Your scumreads lack depth on thought.
You dodged the question that I asked.

In this post, I described why your play is focused on commenting instead of solving the game. You did not respond.

I've also pointed out several mindset/mentality contradictions in your play, which you also failed to respond to.

Care to respond to any or all?


I have very little interest in convincing you of my towniness because I think you're scum. But here goes..

Why am I focused on commenting instead of solving the game?
I am very focused on solving the game. Except I am mostly using process of elimination to determine a scumteam. When I can't read someone as town, I assume they are scum. So my case would be something like "there's nothing townie in his filter" rather than "there's something scummy in his filter." That is my a lot of my content has been going against other people's reads that I disagree with. I can argue why something isn't townie, or why something isn't scummy, but not really why something IS scummy.

Contradictions in my play..
In some instances I changed my mind without telling you guys about it. In others, you thought I scum or townread someone when I really didn't.

Townread me yet?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 22:32 GMT
#3618
On January 04 2016 07:29 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 06:59 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 04 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
You are trying to take null things kush and turn them into town type motives.

Most of the thread had reactions that were not dissimilar to what palmar posted. At best this is a null as scum are looking just as much as town where to put votes and more than likely palmar vote was already on Rels.

Secondly of course palmar doesn't want to be shot this is totally null.

1) Town palmar doesn't want to get shot because he's town and can help to try to win the game.

2) Scum palmar doesn't want to be shot because he's scum,and wants to,win. And thinks he can talk his way out of getting lynched with a large effort.

It's totally null, and I'm really concerned now that you are trying to tr palmar for such weak things.


It's more than him not wanting to get shot. It's that he rather get lynched than shot. I've been in the position that palmar is in as town so what he is saying rings true to me.


Th I is palmar though and it's nai and while palmar would come in here saying yea I'm town I agree. You can't judge him on this metric. What else makes him town.


I dont think I have anything else. The read is not super strong lol.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 23:17 GMT
#3650
On January 04 2016 08:09 Palmar wrote:
Like I know this does not matter to you guys.

But there is 100% no way that kush, for two days in a row or something, is right about my alignment when rayn/artanis/hf/damdred/koshi/trfel and the list goes on are wrong.

Literally the only other person I remember actually calling me town is rsoultin. (I think she did). It's really annoying, but it's also glaringly obvious.

Kush either knows I'm town (cop) or he's scum.


im vt bro.
trfel dont nk me.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 23:34 GMT
#3665
On January 04 2016 07:39 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 10:57 nooniansoong wrote:
Hi everybody. I'm a kush smurf.
This game I am going to try hard to work on read accuracy.

I just did a quick read through. Exo gave me mafia feels in his few posts, but that doesn't mean much.

I liked hf's first post. Then ness said he needed to write a lot in defense. Ness, I urge you to write as little as possible while still honestly addressing hf's concerns.

Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 06:04 nooniansoong wrote:
TT was very try hard as mafia last game. I suppose his play could be scum feeling mafia fatigue. I think he is more likely low effort town.
Nooniansoong, I'm not sure how these posts fit with your process-of-elimination mindset described here. How can you get mafia feels from ExO_'s first few posts? And why do you feel that Tictock is more likely town than mafia, while you say that when you can't find a reason to townread people, you assume that they are mafia?
l
Am I misunderstanding something?


1 I gave no credence to those mafiafeels. Did you not read the part where i said "THAT DOESN"T MEAN MUCH"

2 I had so many null reads at that point that a nullread did not equal scumread like it does at this point in the game. I thought people's reasons for scumreading him were not valid. Then I townread him a little based on, im ashamed to say, tone and some stuff he said in the face of being lynched.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 03 2016 23:52 GMT
#3666
And comparing my scumhunting to the last game I played will probably lead you astray. I townread two of the scum so I tried to change how I approached the game a little bit. Every game I try to improve.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 04 2016 12:10 GMT
#3713
On January 04 2016 20:49 ObviousOne wrote:
the posts regarding nocturnemage are kinda curious
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 17:31 sicklucker wrote:
oh ness was replaced by that fucker

sort of implies he knows nocturnemage
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 02:00 sicklucker wrote:
But I never played with nocturne before so dandred I wanna give him a chance he seems to be trying...

Can we kill slam plzpl mister dandred mister?

but this post says he hasn't. i find this weird.

his issue with noct knowing the setup of the game is kind of silly since he himself didn't read the OP in the game we were in haunted mini, so it's a stupid point to fuss about when he himself is underinformed. if sl should have any issues with noct i would imagine it would be more with how noct is pushing your lynch but without taking any of the responsibility for it which i imagine you'd have a problem with.




onegu thoughts are already in my filter


You find it weird that so calls nm a fucker even though he's never played with him.
Why is that scummy?
Looks like oo is spreading suspicion based on non existent reasoning.
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