• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:37
CET 19:37
KST 03:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!39$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship6[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1742 users

OUTLAW MINI MAFIA - Page 5

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 17 18 19 Next All
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:17 GMT
#1426
On December 29 2015 00:16 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 00:08 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 28 2015 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
On December 28 2015 23:56 Vivax wrote:
On December 28 2015 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
I think we just lynch the people that blindly didn't want to lynch vivax a while ago, that is guaranteed mafia. As for names I'll find them.


That would make them mafia why? Are you going to lynch anyone who wasnt your bitch? Eradicate some intelligence from this game?


Well if perchance you are town then the people that aren't following a good case of vivax does shit all as mafia early in the game and we should pressure him generally have TMI and are mafia themselves, there is 0 reason to not form a wagon on you to make you do stuff unless they are scared to look out of place and are mafia.


Well there is SL's argument that he is easier to read as the game progresses.

Then there is someone else's argument that low activity is not scum indicative for vivax, since he has been known to play like that as town. Which makes him only as scummy as all the other inactives.


both of which are bad arguments


No they are excellent


well you better stop being shit then shouldn't you if they are excellent arguments?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:19 GMT
#1428
On December 29 2015 00:14 Palmar wrote:
Feels kind of dirty to lynch kush day 1 two games in a row for being dumb and bad. Although he's trying his best to sound sane this game so maybe he's scum.


I'm ok with lynching kush for the leap he made on TT tbh

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 28 2015 06:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 06:04 nooniansoong wrote:
TT was very try hard as mafia last game. I suppose his play could be scum feeling mafia fatigue. I think he is more likely low effort town.


So what you're saying is you're mafia with TMI

On December 28 2015 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 06:14 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:09 Holyflare wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:04 nooniansoong wrote:
TT was very try hard as mafia last game. I suppose his play could be scum feeling mafia fatigue. I think he is more likely low effort town.


So what you're saying is you're mafia with TMI


I based my read on two pieces of information.
1 He played try hard scum last game. I was in that game with him and I remember it very well.
2 I read his filter this game and it looks much lower effort than his mafia game.

I don't think it's tmi.


And then you said he could be burnt out and made the leap to him being town instead...?

On December 28 2015 06:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 06:31 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:14 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:09 Holyflare wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:04 nooniansoong wrote:
TT was very try hard as mafia last game. I suppose his play could be scum feeling mafia fatigue. I think he is more likely low effort town.


So what you're saying is you're mafia with TMI


I based my read on two pieces of information.
1 He played try hard scum last game. I was in that game with him and I remember it very well.
2 I read his filter this game and it looks much lower effort than his mafia game.

I don't think it's tmi.


And then you said he could be burnt out and made the leap to him being town instead...?


There is no leap. His activity points to two options: burnt out scum or town. Which of those he is, I do not know. However, I do not think his lack of activity and the emptiness of his posts is a scumtell, due to his last scumgame. That is what most people are basing the scumread on.

Is he burnt out scum or town? If his behavior doesn't point to one being more likely than the other, than it is more likely he is town, simply because town is the more abundant role.


That's most definitely a leap and unless you have a view on all the other players in the game and have narrowed down mafia also a really bad leap.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:32 GMT
#1446
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/500627-outlaw-mini-mafia?page=72#1428
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:40 GMT
#1452
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

whatever then I still just want to lynch Vivax for even signing up
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:47 GMT
#1463
On December 29 2015 00:44 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 00:40 Holyflare wrote:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

whatever then I still just want to lynch Vivax for even signing up

Did I miss anything, was that a wrong interpretation from me? Or do you now see the conversation the way I read it? Did you change your mind about it?

Kush is still a fine lynch, even if that wasn't a slip. His vote on me is terrible because he's played with me enough times to know that I don't care about pressure votes and that I always show up to play in the end, especially after weekends. His defense of me then towards Exo was weird too.

We're not killing vivax unless he gets cc'd of course.


it's a logical leap because he has no input in any other player in the game at that point and just miraculously after saying the player is a burnt out mafia decides that he is town because it is statistically likely which is bs if you're trying to find mafia and have no reads on anyone else

I just couldn't be bothered to have a discussion about the obvious.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:57 GMT
#1474
On December 29 2015 00:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 00:53 Palmar wrote:
On December 29 2015 00:48 Vivax wrote:
On December 29 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
On December 29 2015 00:44 Vivax wrote:
Kush is town and you should know it Plammar

Can you explain why?


He doesnt try to be a factor in the game as mafia, as mafia he has the mafia version of Alzheimers and just talks about odd stuff.

In this game he even says good stuff!

as a counterpoint, he repeatedly fucks up as mafia by being less wrong than he is as town. In general one of kush's biggest scumtells is that he's right about things.


Which I'm sure you can tell on D1 without flips. Oh you so smart Plmarr

Mafia is HF, ritoky, The Shining, Moosey and 1-2 other guys I didnt look at yet


Moosy is supposed to play more as mafia, shining looked towny from what I can remember, I'm definitely town and ritoky is probably/maybe town

rekt?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 16:12 GMT
#1483
I'd sheep rayn cz that TT catch up was balls.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 16:25 GMT
#1488
On December 29 2015 01:22 nooniansoong wrote:
HF you started out the game so strong and now you've gradually stopped trying.


shocker when 3/4 of the game isn't playing really, just have no motivation to try
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:24 GMT
#1529
On December 29 2015 02:21 nooniansoong wrote:
Hf thinks my refusal to scumread tt indicates tmi. That implies that tt is town. Now he is sleeping rayn on tt.
That is an inconsistency in hfs reads I would like explained,


I've always said I would lynch TT and sheeping a good case is never bad. I don't really care about inconsistencies in my own thought process I just want to lynch mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:26 GMT
#1532
On December 29 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:15 Damdred wrote:
On December 29 2015 01:49 rsoultin wrote:
raaaayn i think art is most likely town and ows is most likely scum where's our disconnect?

if you said it before, i'm sorry, it's just a big thread and my memory's not the best


I think ows is town maybe to though


maybe he is idk, but not cause of rayn's associative reason lol

i'm thinking that hf is playing really blah for someone who had a break...like viva is scum...now that viva isn't scum anyone who defended him had tmi...oh and now i'm gonna pop back to something i mentioned about kush ages ago

pretty lazy

i'm not sure why town hf is this lazy and i know i know i'm probably wasting my breath talking about hf on a d1 but ye

maybe i will vote tt with rayn actually let me check something


I'm sorry and when am I lazy as mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:27 GMT
#1536
On December 29 2015 02:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:15 Damdred wrote:
On December 29 2015 01:49 rsoultin wrote:
raaaayn i think art is most likely town and ows is most likely scum where's our disconnect?

if you said it before, i'm sorry, it's just a big thread and my memory's not the best


I think ows is town maybe to though


maybe he is idk, but not cause of rayn's associative reason lol

i'm thinking that hf is playing really blah for someone who had a break...like viva is scum...now that viva isn't scum anyone who defended him had tmi...oh and now i'm gonna pop back to something i mentioned about kush ages ago

pretty lazy

i'm not sure why town hf is this lazy and i know i know i'm probably wasting my breath talking about hf on a d1 but ye

maybe i will vote tt with rayn actually let me check something


I'm sorry and when am I lazy as mafia?


like ever wtf what a trash tier read everything you write is consistent with someone that follows their own reads while being lazy, the person that you scum read ends up being town then what do you do? You obviously look at the people calling him town for no good reason. Palmar returns and talks about Kush, I mention qualms with Kush.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:32 GMT
#1541
I'm glad rsoultin is confirmed town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:34 GMT
#1543
I wouldn't actually mind lynching Ness tbh as well as TT.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:34 GMT
#1544
but well actually maybe not
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:38 GMT
#1548
I actually think slam is pretty likely mafia because of how aggro he was to N E S S but all while calling him town?? and also this post:

On December 28 2015 16:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Argh joining Vivax train until better option becomes viable.


and some other stuff that I forgot
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:39 GMT
#1549
On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons?


This guy probably mafia too tbh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:42 GMT
#1552
On December 29 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons?


This guy probably mafia too tbh.

I had the same feeling but then i read the name above the post.


wanna play some hots?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:43 GMT
#1554
On December 29 2015 02:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:38 Holyflare wrote:
I actually think slam is pretty likely mafia because of how aggro he was to N E S S but all while calling him town?? and also this post:

On December 28 2015 16:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Argh joining Vivax train until better option becomes viable.


and some other stuff that I forgot

I said this 10 years ago btw.


cool then
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:48 GMT
#1557
On December 29 2015 02:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons?


This guy probably mafia too tbh.


Who's not Mafia in this game? All you have been doing is pushing a guy that people are telling you you should give him more time for his recent plays, and you keep pushing him until he claims. Then you want to lunch Tictock and ness, who you have been townreading. Why do you want to lynch ness now, Holyflare? What changed?


So you're accusing me of making Vivax claim when Vivax has been calling me mafia all game? Are you okay in the head?

On December 29 2015 02:34 Holyflare wrote:
but well actually maybe not


regarding N E S S ^
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:54 GMT
#1566
Yup classic GB fake mafia anger. Not only are your points illogical (I couldn't have made Vivax claim, I said I don't really want to lynch Ness straight away after etc etc) but they are ones that you yourself FOLLOW IN SENTIMENT.

On December 29 2015 02:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons?


This guy probably mafia too tbh.


Who's not Mafia in this game? All you have been doing is pushing a guy that people are telling you you should give him more time for his recent plays, and you keep pushing him until he claims. Then you want to lunch Tictock and ness, who you have been townreading. Why do you want to lynch ness now, Holyflare? What changed?


Let's look at this post as a classic example of a wtf he's mafia moment. GB is calling me out for:

A) Being suspicious of Vivax which is weird as fuck because:

On December 28 2015 04:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 04:08 Vivax wrote:
If you're town and know you're never going to read this game gtfo.

If you're mafia just wait until i lynch you thats okay too


And now I agree with you HF, Vivax might be the best lynch today



B) Being suspicious of TickTock:

On December 28 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i really think TT is scum because everyone and their mother is willing to lynch Vivax at least on some level but everyone and their mother also refuses to commit on even giving a read on TT.


Let's do it

##Vote: Tictock



C) Being suspicious of N E S S:

On December 28 2015 03:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 03:03 Holyflare wrote:
can we leave ness alone, I'm pretty sure he's town at this juncture


Why is that? The only thing that is giving me pause to call him Mafia is that thing Sicklucker said. The early arguments I've brought on him + his reads not making much sense (calling me town, Mafia, then town again, and now suddenly calling Tictock and Exo Mafia out of the blue, especially when Exo looks pretty fownie to me) pretty much sells him out to me as scum.


D) Being suspicious of Kush:

-absent because GB has been afk for ages-


So, what do we see here ladies and gentleman? Glowingbear is accusing me of calling all his mafia reads mafia and then using it to call me mafia.

/case

get rekt GB
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 17 18 19 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LAN Event
18:00
Stellar Fest: Day 2
Lambo vs Clem
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs TBD
Zoun vs TBD
ComeBackTV 956
UrsaTVCanada575
IndyStarCraft 139
Liquipedia
IPSL
18:00
Ro24 Group B
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Liquipedia
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
16:55
FSL teamleague IC vs RR week17
Freeedom32
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 139
ROOTCatZ 81
BRAT_OK 75
Vindicta 38
MindelVK 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2929
EffOrt 286
Hyun 95
Backho 57
Rock 51
HiyA 18
Dota 2
qojqva3387
Dendi1152
Counter-Strike
kRYSTAL_45
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor520
Other Games
Beastyqt753
Lowko435
Fuzer 219
KnowMe170
Hui .142
ArmadaUGS119
ViBE48
goatrope45
Trikslyr29
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick433
Counter-Strike
PGL179
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 33
• davetesta9
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach26
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2541
• Ler43
• lizZardDota235
League of Legends
• Nemesis2471
• imaqtpie1149
Other Games
• Shiphtur340
• tFFMrPink 18
Upcoming Events
BSL 21
1h 23m
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs OyAji
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
4h 23m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
15h 23m
WardiTV Korean Royale
17h 23m
LAN Event
20h 23m
IPSL
23h 23m
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
1d 1h
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
1d 14h
Wardi Open
1d 17h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.