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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:17 GMT
#1426
On December 29 2015 00:16 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 00:08 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 28 2015 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
On December 28 2015 23:56 Vivax wrote:
On December 28 2015 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
I think we just lynch the people that blindly didn't want to lynch vivax a while ago, that is guaranteed mafia. As for names I'll find them.


That would make them mafia why? Are you going to lynch anyone who wasnt your bitch? Eradicate some intelligence from this game?


Well if perchance you are town then the people that aren't following a good case of vivax does shit all as mafia early in the game and we should pressure him generally have TMI and are mafia themselves, there is 0 reason to not form a wagon on you to make you do stuff unless they are scared to look out of place and are mafia.


Well there is SL's argument that he is easier to read as the game progresses.

Then there is someone else's argument that low activity is not scum indicative for vivax, since he has been known to play like that as town. Which makes him only as scummy as all the other inactives.


both of which are bad arguments


No they are excellent


well you better stop being shit then shouldn't you if they are excellent arguments?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:19 GMT
#1428
On December 29 2015 00:14 Palmar wrote:
Feels kind of dirty to lynch kush day 1 two games in a row for being dumb and bad. Although he's trying his best to sound sane this game so maybe he's scum.


I'm ok with lynching kush for the leap he made on TT tbh

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 28 2015 06:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 06:04 nooniansoong wrote:
TT was very try hard as mafia last game. I suppose his play could be scum feeling mafia fatigue. I think he is more likely low effort town.


So what you're saying is you're mafia with TMI

On December 28 2015 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 06:14 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:09 Holyflare wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:04 nooniansoong wrote:
TT was very try hard as mafia last game. I suppose his play could be scum feeling mafia fatigue. I think he is more likely low effort town.


So what you're saying is you're mafia with TMI


I based my read on two pieces of information.
1 He played try hard scum last game. I was in that game with him and I remember it very well.
2 I read his filter this game and it looks much lower effort than his mafia game.

I don't think it's tmi.


And then you said he could be burnt out and made the leap to him being town instead...?

On December 28 2015 06:44 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 28 2015 06:31 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:14 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:09 Holyflare wrote:
On December 28 2015 06:04 nooniansoong wrote:
TT was very try hard as mafia last game. I suppose his play could be scum feeling mafia fatigue. I think he is more likely low effort town.


So what you're saying is you're mafia with TMI


I based my read on two pieces of information.
1 He played try hard scum last game. I was in that game with him and I remember it very well.
2 I read his filter this game and it looks much lower effort than his mafia game.

I don't think it's tmi.


And then you said he could be burnt out and made the leap to him being town instead...?


There is no leap. His activity points to two options: burnt out scum or town. Which of those he is, I do not know. However, I do not think his lack of activity and the emptiness of his posts is a scumtell, due to his last scumgame. That is what most people are basing the scumread on.

Is he burnt out scum or town? If his behavior doesn't point to one being more likely than the other, than it is more likely he is town, simply because town is the more abundant role.


That's most definitely a leap and unless you have a view on all the other players in the game and have narrowed down mafia also a really bad leap.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:32 GMT
#1446
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/500627-outlaw-mini-mafia?page=72#1428
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:40 GMT
#1452
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

whatever then I still just want to lynch Vivax for even signing up
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:47 GMT
#1463
On December 29 2015 00:44 Palmar wrote:
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On December 29 2015 00:40 Holyflare wrote:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

whatever then I still just want to lynch Vivax for even signing up

Did I miss anything, was that a wrong interpretation from me? Or do you now see the conversation the way I read it? Did you change your mind about it?

Kush is still a fine lynch, even if that wasn't a slip. His vote on me is terrible because he's played with me enough times to know that I don't care about pressure votes and that I always show up to play in the end, especially after weekends. His defense of me then towards Exo was weird too.

We're not killing vivax unless he gets cc'd of course.


it's a logical leap because he has no input in any other player in the game at that point and just miraculously after saying the player is a burnt out mafia decides that he is town because it is statistically likely which is bs if you're trying to find mafia and have no reads on anyone else

I just couldn't be bothered to have a discussion about the obvious.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 15:57 GMT
#1474
On December 29 2015 00:55 Vivax wrote:
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On December 29 2015 00:53 Palmar wrote:
On December 29 2015 00:48 Vivax wrote:
On December 29 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
On December 29 2015 00:44 Vivax wrote:
Kush is town and you should know it Plammar

Can you explain why?


He doesnt try to be a factor in the game as mafia, as mafia he has the mafia version of Alzheimers and just talks about odd stuff.

In this game he even says good stuff!

as a counterpoint, he repeatedly fucks up as mafia by being less wrong than he is as town. In general one of kush's biggest scumtells is that he's right about things.


Which I'm sure you can tell on D1 without flips. Oh you so smart Plmarr

Mafia is HF, ritoky, The Shining, Moosey and 1-2 other guys I didnt look at yet


Moosy is supposed to play more as mafia, shining looked towny from what I can remember, I'm definitely town and ritoky is probably/maybe town

rekt?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 16:12 GMT
#1483
I'd sheep rayn cz that TT catch up was balls.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 16:25 GMT
#1488
On December 29 2015 01:22 nooniansoong wrote:
HF you started out the game so strong and now you've gradually stopped trying.


shocker when 3/4 of the game isn't playing really, just have no motivation to try
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:24 GMT
#1529
On December 29 2015 02:21 nooniansoong wrote:
Hf thinks my refusal to scumread tt indicates tmi. That implies that tt is town. Now he is sleeping rayn on tt.
That is an inconsistency in hfs reads I would like explained,


I've always said I would lynch TT and sheeping a good case is never bad. I don't really care about inconsistencies in my own thought process I just want to lynch mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:26 GMT
#1532
On December 29 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 29 2015 02:15 Damdred wrote:
On December 29 2015 01:49 rsoultin wrote:
raaaayn i think art is most likely town and ows is most likely scum where's our disconnect?

if you said it before, i'm sorry, it's just a big thread and my memory's not the best


I think ows is town maybe to though


maybe he is idk, but not cause of rayn's associative reason lol

i'm thinking that hf is playing really blah for someone who had a break...like viva is scum...now that viva isn't scum anyone who defended him had tmi...oh and now i'm gonna pop back to something i mentioned about kush ages ago

pretty lazy

i'm not sure why town hf is this lazy and i know i know i'm probably wasting my breath talking about hf on a d1 but ye

maybe i will vote tt with rayn actually let me check something


I'm sorry and when am I lazy as mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:27 GMT
#1536
On December 29 2015 02:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:15 Damdred wrote:
On December 29 2015 01:49 rsoultin wrote:
raaaayn i think art is most likely town and ows is most likely scum where's our disconnect?

if you said it before, i'm sorry, it's just a big thread and my memory's not the best


I think ows is town maybe to though


maybe he is idk, but not cause of rayn's associative reason lol

i'm thinking that hf is playing really blah for someone who had a break...like viva is scum...now that viva isn't scum anyone who defended him had tmi...oh and now i'm gonna pop back to something i mentioned about kush ages ago

pretty lazy

i'm not sure why town hf is this lazy and i know i know i'm probably wasting my breath talking about hf on a d1 but ye

maybe i will vote tt with rayn actually let me check something


I'm sorry and when am I lazy as mafia?


like ever wtf what a trash tier read everything you write is consistent with someone that follows their own reads while being lazy, the person that you scum read ends up being town then what do you do? You obviously look at the people calling him town for no good reason. Palmar returns and talks about Kush, I mention qualms with Kush.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:32 GMT
#1541
I'm glad rsoultin is confirmed town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:34 GMT
#1543
I wouldn't actually mind lynching Ness tbh as well as TT.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:34 GMT
#1544
but well actually maybe not
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:38 GMT
#1548
I actually think slam is pretty likely mafia because of how aggro he was to N E S S but all while calling him town?? and also this post:

On December 28 2015 16:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Argh joining Vivax train until better option becomes viable.


and some other stuff that I forgot
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:39 GMT
#1549
On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons?


This guy probably mafia too tbh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:42 GMT
#1552
On December 29 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons?


This guy probably mafia too tbh.

I had the same feeling but then i read the name above the post.


wanna play some hots?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:43 GMT
#1554
On December 29 2015 02:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:38 Holyflare wrote:
I actually think slam is pretty likely mafia because of how aggro he was to N E S S but all while calling him town?? and also this post:

On December 28 2015 16:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Argh joining Vivax train until better option becomes viable.


and some other stuff that I forgot

I said this 10 years ago btw.


cool then
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:48 GMT
#1557
On December 29 2015 02:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons?


This guy probably mafia too tbh.


Who's not Mafia in this game? All you have been doing is pushing a guy that people are telling you you should give him more time for his recent plays, and you keep pushing him until he claims. Then you want to lunch Tictock and ness, who you have been townreading. Why do you want to lynch ness now, Holyflare? What changed?


So you're accusing me of making Vivax claim when Vivax has been calling me mafia all game? Are you okay in the head?

On December 29 2015 02:34 Holyflare wrote:
but well actually maybe not


regarding N E S S ^
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 28 2015 17:54 GMT
#1566
Yup classic GB fake mafia anger. Not only are your points illogical (I couldn't have made Vivax claim, I said I don't really want to lynch Ness straight away after etc etc) but they are ones that you yourself FOLLOW IN SENTIMENT.

On December 29 2015 02:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons?


This guy probably mafia too tbh.


Who's not Mafia in this game? All you have been doing is pushing a guy that people are telling you you should give him more time for his recent plays, and you keep pushing him until he claims. Then you want to lunch Tictock and ness, who you have been townreading. Why do you want to lynch ness now, Holyflare? What changed?


Let's look at this post as a classic example of a wtf he's mafia moment. GB is calling me out for:

A) Being suspicious of Vivax which is weird as fuck because:

On December 28 2015 04:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 04:08 Vivax wrote:
If you're town and know you're never going to read this game gtfo.

If you're mafia just wait until i lynch you thats okay too


And now I agree with you HF, Vivax might be the best lynch today



B) Being suspicious of TickTock:

On December 28 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i really think TT is scum because everyone and their mother is willing to lynch Vivax at least on some level but everyone and their mother also refuses to commit on even giving a read on TT.


Let's do it

##Vote: Tictock



C) Being suspicious of N E S S:

On December 28 2015 03:06 GlowingBear wrote:
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On December 28 2015 03:03 Holyflare wrote:
can we leave ness alone, I'm pretty sure he's town at this juncture


Why is that? The only thing that is giving me pause to call him Mafia is that thing Sicklucker said. The early arguments I've brought on him + his reads not making much sense (calling me town, Mafia, then town again, and now suddenly calling Tictock and Exo Mafia out of the blue, especially when Exo looks pretty fownie to me) pretty much sells him out to me as scum.


D) Being suspicious of Kush:

-absent because GB has been afk for ages-


So, what do we see here ladies and gentleman? Glowingbear is accusing me of calling all his mafia reads mafia and then using it to call me mafia.

/case

get rekt GB
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