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On December 24 2015 01:36 Half the Sky wrote:Looks like one more is needed. Holiday until next week so sitting it out. GL HF and welcome back Holyflare. Something told me you wouldn't be gone too long. 
Only here because I had to spend my annual leave :/
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On December 27 2015 06:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Alright I'm HTS is going to start finalizing things.
After doing the math it seems that EoD2 will be on new years eve and EoN2 on new years day. So I'm going to postpone the start date one day.
Sunday, Dec 27 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) is the new start time
Just pause the game halfway through the cycle on New Year's Eve.
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On December 27 2015 08:12 N e s s wrote:
Alright, i'm just going to assume this started for now.
Also, i can't understand why lynching Mooseydoosey is a good idea what so ever. Why would you lynch someone not even an hour into Day 1?
But, nevertheless heres a few questions to get the ball rolling.
Answer these questions.
How much mafia experience do you have? I have played atleast 10 games up to this point.
How many times have you been mafia in your mafia meta? twice, won both times.
If you had to choose one person to lynch right now, who would it be? Honestly most of you are doing moose for reasons i can't understand, but right now basically nobody. I haven't read back.
If you saw 3 buttons, 1 being green, 1 being yellow, and 1 being red, which would you push? I'd push green.
Can you explain what you hoped to get out of these questions? I understand the first two purely from an analytical standpoint but the last two:
1) If you had to choose one person to lynch right now, who would it be? Honestly most of you are doing moose for reasons i can't understand, but right now basically nobody. I haven't read back.
At this point in the game there had been about half a page of useless posts, if you yourself could not really come up with a person to lynch and your answer provides nothing in terms of a progressive thought what did you hope to achieve by asking people this same question? In your eyes this question should lead to nothing but redundant statements since you yourself could not see anything.
Furthermore I have qualms with the second half of the statement:
Honestly most of you are doing moose for reasons i can't understand
You have a list of four questions and they are all designed as you have said:
On December 27 2015 08:17 N e s s wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 08:16 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 08:12 N e s s wrote:
Alright, i'm just going to assume this started for now.
Also, i can't understand why lynching Mooseydoosey is a good idea what so ever. Why would you lynch someone not even an hour into Day 1?
But, nevertheless heres a few questions to get the ball rolling.
Answer these questions.
How much mafia experience do you have? I have played atleast 10 games up to this point.
How many times have you been mafia in your mafia meta? twice, won both times.
If you had to choose one person to lynch right now, who would it be? Honestly most of you are doing moose for reasons i can't understand, but right now basically nobody. I haven't read back.
If you saw 3 buttons, 1 being green, 1 being yellow, and 1 being red, which would you push? I'd push green. 1) 2 years of experience, basically 2) 8 times I think 3) ness 4) I'd push triangle Question: how do you expect these questions will help you to find mafia? It actually can be used later on in game, collecting answers usually helps me.
but you have currently exclaimed (in fact multiple times) that you are bemused by the fact that people are voting for MoosyDoosy yet this is not a feature in your questions at all.
If I were to purely judge your game plan by this post alone it would appear that you are trying to ask questions purely for the sake of asking questions (blending in) while not asking the intuitive questions that one in your position should be asking (why are people voting for Moosy?). This speaks to me as a mafia agenda and one which I am inclined to vote for.
Can you please answer the following for me?
1) Why did you not ask why people were voting for Moosy if you were concerned about this and instead ask people redundant questions?
2) What did you hope the answers from people would reveal?
3) If it was raining on a Tuesday in Spain what shape would a crocodile be if it was square?
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On December 27 2015 09:22 ritoky wrote:
are you really scum reading the guy with 0 posts prior to this game who posted useless stuff and did a jester speculation in an open setup? REALLY?
dumb=/=scum; that guy is ML bait for days.
Perhaps defending the person that has a voice of their own and can respond how he or she pleases is not the best strategy in a game based on lack of information. Your argument is a classic misrepresentation and exaggeration of the situation, we have simply proposed questions to a person questioning how their strategy would come to fruition. He has also played mafia in other locations which may or may not come in to play.
Why are you so eager to jump to this person's defence? I for one would like to hear his responses.
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On December 27 2015 09:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF why do you make a massive case on town, then vote Vivax?
I'm going to ignore your wording there but the reason is quite simple, I haven't heard a response from the player I'm questioning yet and he's new whereas Vivax is someone I have played with and his responses or lack thereof are far more concerning.
On December 27 2015 09:26 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Hi rit can we be town bros this game? Why would he be town with his posts so far
On December 27 2015 09:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Because rit is obvious town if you pay attention even if he a wrong. Mixture of tone posts and a couple of things To me he still is pretty null, easy to make posts
They are both posts that say absolutely nothing and weigh in to no debate whatsoever, I don't see Vivax sidelining in this situation at all I'd at least expect a reaction to something or an inquisitive line of thought.
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On December 27 2015 09:42 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:30 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 09:22 ritoky wrote:
are you really scum reading the guy with 0 posts prior to this game who posted useless stuff and did a jester speculation in an open setup? REALLY?
dumb=/=scum; that guy is ML bait for days. Perhaps defending the person that has a voice of their own and can respond how he or she pleases is not the best strategy in a game based on lack of information. Your argument is a classic misrepresentation and exaggeration of the situation, we have simply proposed questions to a person questioning how their strategy would come to fruition. He has also played mafia in other locations which may or may not come in to play. Why are you so eager to jump to this person's defence? I for one would like to hear his responses. because how many games in a row is it where we have a new player who enters in; says some dumb shit that is very obviously town and then people spend days babbling over how they could be mafia when they just aren't. last game was shapelog, game before that was moosy, game before that was cephiro. i know this is hard for you since you're out of practice and a firm believer in dumb=scum; but that ness guy is like always town.
I don't intend to spend days babbling over it but I don't want to eliminate a player because of your feeling that his newness and dumbness leads to him being town. Let's not forget how easily you've overlooked people in the past because of complacency and neglect .
#Hearthstone2014
Either way, it's not something I want to dwell on, he either responds well or doesn't, plenty more to look at either way. I'd suggest not defending him though because if you're keen to say that GB looks mafia-ish then him dwelling on these little things would be very indicative instead of closing all the doors before it's happened.
You should vote Vivax with me
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/6e42219a5876ee6211266625f19c3353.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/4391fda423ccd187b9dc4c02582a3a3b.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)
+ Show Spoiler +1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
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On December 27 2015 10:59 sicklucker wrote:
So my hf read is he comes in with his first post to discredit the new player. Then his procedding posts are all about discrediting other town reads. Standard mafia stuff good equity there
I'm not sure I follow your logic here. If you want to continue down this line of reasoning I suggest we bring forward your only posts of the game so far:
On December 27 2015 08:49 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 08:32 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:29 ritoky wrote:On December 27 2015 08:26 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:24 ritoky wrote:On December 27 2015 08:21 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:20 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 08:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 27 2015 08:16 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 08:12 N e s s wrote:
Alright, i'm just going to assume this started for now.
Also, i can't understand why lynching Mooseydoosey is a good idea what so ever. Why would you lynch someone not even an hour into Day 1?
But, nevertheless heres a few questions to get the ball rolling.
Answer these questions.
How much mafia experience do you have? I have played atleast 10 games up to this point.
How many times have you been mafia in your mafia meta? twice, won both times.
If you had to choose one person to lynch right now, who would it be? Honestly most of you are doing moose for reasons i can't understand, but right now basically nobody. I haven't read back.
If you saw 3 buttons, 1 being green, 1 being yellow, and 1 being red, which would you push? I'd push green. 1) 2 years of experience, basically 2) 8 times I think 3) ness 4) I'd push triangle Question: how do you expect these questions will help you to find mafia? Why do you think this makes him mafia? It doesn't unless he can't explain what he expects from questions like these Yes, glowing bear you haven't played any games with me before, so i'm just going to assume you're town right now. But you jumping to me as mafia for asking questions...? Tell me, why do you think i'm mafia in a logical manner. cuz you asked useless personal questions most of which can be answered by looking @ the DB that don't lead to mafia in any obvious way. tho town GB mostly just calls you dumb or worthless there instead of mafia, so GB might be mafia; juzzayin. Mafia experience? Thats not a personal question. It shows how experienced someone is. Thats why i asked it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-databaseyou can look up everyone's names! see how many games on these forums they have played, get the results of those games, and even view their filters for said games. it answers almost all of your questions. I'm new to team liquid, so i guess my questions strategie doesn't work here. But i didn't know that, but what i meant was mafia experience as a whole. Not just their TL mafia, but on other forums as well. I know for an absolute fact there has to some veteran mafia players in here. I guess my forums can't exactly help with that, i'll look up names later. but in the mean time, who do you guys think is town aligned? this is a dumb angle since we all know each other and dont. Here is a smart angle, what is your mafia experience?
On December 27 2015 10:50 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 08:51 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:49 sicklucker wrote:On December 27 2015 08:32 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:29 ritoky wrote:On December 27 2015 08:26 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:24 ritoky wrote:On December 27 2015 08:21 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:20 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 08:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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Why do you think this makes him mafia? It doesn't unless he can't explain what he expects from questions like these Yes, glowing bear you haven't played any games with me before, so i'm just going to assume you're town right now. But you jumping to me as mafia for asking questions...? Tell me, why do you think i'm mafia in a logical manner. cuz you asked useless personal questions most of which can be answered by looking @ the DB that don't lead to mafia in any obvious way. tho town GB mostly just calls you dumb or worthless there instead of mafia, so GB might be mafia; juzzayin. Mafia experience? Thats not a personal question. It shows how experienced someone is. Thats why i asked it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-databaseyou can look up everyone's names! see how many games on these forums they have played, get the results of those games, and even view their filters for said games. it answers almost all of your questions. I'm new to team liquid, so i guess my questions strategie doesn't work here. But i didn't know that, but what i meant was mafia experience as a whole. Not just their TL mafia, but on other forums as well. I know for an absolute fact there has to some veteran mafia players in here. I guess my forums can't exactly help with that, i'll look up names later. but in the mean time, who do you guys think is town aligned? this is a dumb angle since we all know each other and dont. Here is a smart angle, what is your mafia experience? You didn't even read the questions post, hun <3 10 games c: but that sudden attack on me? Its interesting, for numerous reasons. how in gods name can that be interpreted as an "attack"
You only have two posts that really have any content in them and both of them are pointless posts directed towards the player that you are accusing me of attacking. If I am guilty of discrediting the new player (I'm not even sure how I am doing that) then please elaborate how your plan of play was any different and why it makes our alignments different in this situation?
I have left open ended questions for the player to answer as my concerns are valid, if you would like to prove that my concerns are not in fact valid you are welcome to quote those posts and explain them. My vote is currently on Vivax who has done nothing despite being around and you have not commented on that though, please alter this situation and make your thoughts on him known.
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On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
first one is correct
Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else.
The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate.
The situation would go as follows:
As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White".
Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat.
Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black".
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On December 27 2015 11:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
first one is correct Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else. The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate. The situation would go as follows: As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White". Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat. Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black". !!! That one was really hard.
I had a similar puzzle in a Phoenix Wright/Professor Layton game but this one was a bit harder I admit.
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On December 27 2015 11:14 N e s s wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
first one is correct Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else. The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate. The situation would go as follows: As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White". Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat. Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black". ^^your long posts remind me a bit of someone i play with Town reads-HolyFlare, Aramis or whoever you say his username. But Ness! Shouldn't there be more town reads?To be blunt, i'm lazy. I'm diabetic and i'm at 340 (which is bad.) I'll go back and do more later, thats just the majority of whom i think is town atm.
How come you said you were spending a lot of time writing a defence which never came to fruition?
Please refer to this post and answer it when you are home, ignore everything else for a while:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/500627-outlaw-mini-mafia?page=15#296
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I think the best players to lynch today are Vivax for my preceding posts:
On December 27 2015 09:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF why do you make a massive case on town, then vote Vivax? I'm going to ignore your wording there but the reason is quite simple, I haven't heard a response from the player I'm questioning yet and he's new whereas Vivax is someone I have played with and his responses or lack thereof are far more concerning. Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:26 Vivax wrote:On December 27 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Hi rit can we be town bros this game? Why would he be town with his posts so far Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:32 Vivax wrote:On December 27 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Because rit is obvious town if you pay attention even if he a wrong. Mixture of tone posts and a couple of things To me he still is pretty null, easy to make posts They are both posts that say absolutely nothing and weigh in to no debate whatsoever, I don't see Vivax sidelining in this situation at all I'd at least expect a reaction to something or an inquisitive line of thought.
He has been present since then and is only concerned with Koshi's riddle in the meantime.
As another candidate I also think GB could be mafia;
His posts towards N E S S were barebones and unable to really follow up on anything meaningful and his suspicion has seemingly been dropped off the planet since then, he was in fact more concerned with being accused by rsoultin and trying to get her to change her mind rather than following up with N E S S:
It's not an attempt to discredit, dear. I think you are wrong instead of Mafia, and knowing that you were wrong on me before reinforces the perspective where you're town here. And, since you usually can read me well, I'm not worried about a read you have on the first hours of the game. There is plenty of time until you can correctly read me.
On December 27 2015 10:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, dear, the way you inquired me about my lack of reaction in you scum reading me felt townie. You call me Mafia, I don't OMGUS, you find it weird and you decide to investigate this better. I can see a person trying to confirm suspicions on my alignment rather than trying to force a wagon on me.
Also, if you were Mafia, I don't think you would risk getting tunneled by me like that. You could simply town read me and go after a better target.
The rest of his posts are very empty and just questions that do not lead anything such as: "Why do you think that?" "Elaborate," "Calm down."
This speaks of a GB who wants to be friends with everyone rather than a GB that wants to solve the game IMO. Things may change, they may not, GB I am on to you.
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On December 27 2015 11:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:07 nooniansoong wrote:
@exo don't get mad. Just try to find scum and answer any questions people ask you.
If we lynch you and you're town, that's our problem not yours. No. Its actually his problem. Abd by blowing your smurf you earned my vote. Shit. Cheap. Crap. Die.
Kush hasn't revealed anything, he has already said his smurf name pre-game in the Newbie game:
On December 22 2015 10:11 nooniansoong wrote:
/in this is kush
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On December 27 2015 11:38 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:29 ExO_ wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the gunsmith works, and also what does RC stand for in mafia setup?
A gunsmith gives a gun to a player at night.
A RC is a role cop and can determine a player's role each night.
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On December 27 2015 11:40 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:39 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 11:38 ExO_ wrote:On December 27 2015 11:29 ExO_ wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the gunsmith works, and also what does RC stand for in mafia setup? A gunsmith gives a gun to a player at night. A RC is a role cop and can determine a player's role each night. does he give a gun with 2 shots, or 2 guns each with 1 shot?
Yes.
+ Show Spoiler +He can use his ability twice so he hands out a 1-shot gun each night.
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On December 27 2015 11:45 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:37 Holyflare wrote:I think the best players to lynch today are Vivax for my preceding posts: On December 27 2015 09:52 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 09:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF why do you make a massive case on town, then vote Vivax? I'm going to ignore your wording there but the reason is quite simple, I haven't heard a response from the player I'm questioning yet and he's new whereas Vivax is someone I have played with and his responses or lack thereof are far more concerning. On December 27 2015 09:26 Vivax wrote:On December 27 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Hi rit can we be town bros this game? Why would he be town with his posts so far On December 27 2015 09:32 Vivax wrote:On December 27 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Because rit is obvious town if you pay attention even if he a wrong. Mixture of tone posts and a couple of things To me he still is pretty null, easy to make posts They are both posts that say absolutely nothing and weigh in to no debate whatsoever, I don't see Vivax sidelining in this situation at all I'd at least expect a reaction to something or an inquisitive line of thought. He has been present since then and is only concerned with Koshi's riddle in the meantime. As another candidate I also think GB could be mafia; His posts towards N E S S were barebones and unable to really follow up on anything meaningful and his suspicion has seemingly been dropped off the planet since then, he was in fact more concerned with being accused by rsoultin and trying to get her to change her mind rather than following up with N E S S: It's not an attempt to discredit, dear. I think you are wrong instead of Mafia, and knowing that you were wrong on me before reinforces the perspective where you're town here. And, since you usually can read me well, I'm not worried about a read you have on the first hours of the game. There is plenty of time until you can correctly read me. On December 27 2015 10:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, dear, the way you inquired me about my lack of reaction in you scum reading me felt townie. You call me Mafia, I don't OMGUS, you find it weird and you decide to investigate this better. I can see a person trying to confirm suspicions on my alignment rather than trying to force a wagon on me.
Also, if you were Mafia, I don't think you would risk getting tunneled by me like that. You could simply town read me and go after a better target. The rest of his posts are very empty and just questions that do not lead anything such as: "Why do you think that?" "Elaborate," "Calm down." This speaks of a GB who wants to be friends with everyone rather than a GB that wants to solve the game IMO. Things may change, they may not, GB I am on to you. Oh boy. I'm feeling it. It's coming.
Are you or are you not concerned about the responses of your initial scum read? To me it looks like you want to take him to a nice spa and give him a massage while you regale him with tales of your youthful antics.
You haven't questioned N E S S at all.
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On December 27 2015 12:01 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:52 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 11:45 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 11:37 Holyflare wrote:I think the best players to lynch today are Vivax for my preceding posts: On December 27 2015 09:52 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 09:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF why do you make a massive case on town, then vote Vivax? I'm going to ignore your wording there but the reason is quite simple, I haven't heard a response from the player I'm questioning yet and he's new whereas Vivax is someone I have played with and his responses or lack thereof are far more concerning. On December 27 2015 09:26 Vivax wrote:On December 27 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Hi rit can we be town bros this game? Why would he be town with his posts so far On December 27 2015 09:32 Vivax wrote:On December 27 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Because rit is obvious town if you pay attention even if he a wrong. Mixture of tone posts and a couple of things To me he still is pretty null, easy to make posts They are both posts that say absolutely nothing and weigh in to no debate whatsoever, I don't see Vivax sidelining in this situation at all I'd at least expect a reaction to something or an inquisitive line of thought. He has been present since then and is only concerned with Koshi's riddle in the meantime. As another candidate I also think GB could be mafia; His posts towards N E S S were barebones and unable to really follow up on anything meaningful and his suspicion has seemingly been dropped off the planet since then, he was in fact more concerned with being accused by rsoultin and trying to get her to change her mind rather than following up with N E S S: It's not an attempt to discredit, dear. I think you are wrong instead of Mafia, and knowing that you were wrong on me before reinforces the perspective where you're town here. And, since you usually can read me well, I'm not worried about a read you have on the first hours of the game. There is plenty of time until you can correctly read me. On December 27 2015 10:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, dear, the way you inquired me about my lack of reaction in you scum reading me felt townie. You call me Mafia, I don't OMGUS, you find it weird and you decide to investigate this better. I can see a person trying to confirm suspicions on my alignment rather than trying to force a wagon on me.
Also, if you were Mafia, I don't think you would risk getting tunneled by me like that. You could simply town read me and go after a better target. The rest of his posts are very empty and just questions that do not lead anything such as: "Why do you think that?" "Elaborate," "Calm down." This speaks of a GB who wants to be friends with everyone rather than a GB that wants to solve the game IMO. Things may change, they may not, GB I am on to you. Oh boy. I'm feeling it. It's coming. Are you or are you not concerned about the responses of your initial scum read? To me it looks like you want to take him to a nice spa and give him a massage while you regale him with tales of your youthful antics. You haven't questioned N E S S at all. I didn't? I am questioning and I'm also letting you question him and evaluating what has been said. I asked him for his scum reads, he picked sicklucker. He said he was going to give his town reads later, and you asked a good question about his defense which has yet to be answered. I'm waiting for it. Meanwhile I am trying to gather informstion about other players. So what if I ask him to calm down? I don't know his alignment and he has a chance on being town legit upset. I don't understand why I can't be kind to a newbie even when I have a slight scum read on him
I am placated by your response for now and question why you are not lynching Vivax with me or Ticktock with Rayn.
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On December 27 2015 12:05 Koshi wrote:
Why would anybody use a smurf instead of his main account? Sense it makes none.
On December 22 2015 08:42 kushm4sta wrote:
dude actually i want to smurf because kush is inappropes for work
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