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On December 28 2015 21:08 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 21:05 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 20:57 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 20:25 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 20:19 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 20:15 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 20:14 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 19:56 Tictock wrote:On December 28 2015 19:31 ExO_ wrote:
Morning Ladies and Gents. Read through the pages I missed at the end of last night. I feel like overall we've really stalled out.
I really think we should consider lynching an inactive, such as BF
TickTock is okay (and the way he just ignores shining's case on him doesn't sit well with me) but I would still rather take out the trash and people who aren't here in the thread trying to help are better than lynching someone who is actively talking on day 1.
Speaking of people not talking, here comes Palmar. Calls me town, and that's about it. Really fucking easy thing for a scum to do, walk into the thread and call a town a town. If this is all we get from Palmar, I think its scummy as hell.
I assume you mean Rit's case, which I am ignoring Also Palmar seems pretty likely town imo, post he just made is some solid thinking What post did he make that was solid thinking? Seriously Palmar has hardly posted anything at all so far, I'd like to know what you thought was so solid about Palmar so far that you think hes town I'm going to guess he's talking about the post where I provided some solid thinking. We talking about the flying cows post? Or perhaps the one about the spiders dancing for the Queen of England, before eating her alive! Oh wait, just like the post with your solid thinking, none of those exist. Just because I'm a nice guy (really...) On December 28 2015 18:50 Palmar wrote:
Exo is probably town. Also, I've read about 10 posts in the thread now and checked a few filter lengths. I'm glad rayn is playing and HF has a shorter than expected filter. But I haven't really read anything from either of them yet.
The reason I'm giving exo a maybe townread is his tinfoil hat theory regarding the mason claims. Most players who construct convoluted conspiracy theories, end up being townies. (If Exo is mafia, he would already know whether or not one or more of the mason claimers are mafia, so creating a theory becomes both more difficult, and it would make him worry about appearing to have extra information). The idea here is that I called you town and gave a reason for it. For the sake of this exercise let's consider you town, because otherwise this is a pointless effort. So as a townie, you have just been called town by someone, your job is now to figure out: a) Did Palmar want to call me town and made up some excuse to do it b) Did Palmar see something he found interesting, and made a conclusion based on the evidence These are really the only two options, you either believe the reason I gave for giving you a "maybe townread", or you don't. Ticktock probably reached the conclusion that my train of thought is genuine, that I actually believe you wouldn't come up with the theory you came up with as mafia, and thus my post was sincere. Now, interestingly, it's my job to try to figure out if Ticktock genuinely liked my post, or if he just saw me post something with some reasoning and decided to call me town for it because he wanted to do that anyway. I think it's a really easy read. What's interesting to me is you mention what went down with rsoultin/coag and the masons. So clearly you've read the thread. However you've only townread me so far, which is a pretty easy call to make at this point. Which makes me think you're trying to get town points for town reading me, when in reality it was a very easy thing to do. Town reading me can't be the only thing you have to offer. There's nothing particularly insightful about going along with what the rest of the thread has said before you. Any other thoughts, any scum reads? So far I think you look far more scummy trying to win a bit of town cred, than a late-to-the-party townie trying to solve the game. I haven't read the thread. I've skimmed like 2 filters and read these last 2-3 pages. To be honest I don't believe you. If you were skimming around the part where I went off on rsoultin/coag you should know that I've been town read by most everyone. That being the case, it'd be easy to call me town, and what I said about trying to get town cred for making a townie read that everyone else has already made holds true. I had no idea anyone else called you town. If you want a full disclosure on how I obtained the read on you it was like this: I respect rayn as a player so I clicked his filter and went right to his last page. on the top of page 8 of rayn's filter there is a conversation that involves all the required knowledge for me to draw the conclusions I have drawn (both about coag/rsoultin being the masons, and the evidence I used to draw the conclusion you might be town).
You'll get no town cred from me, scum
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On December 28 2015 21:15 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 21:10 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 21:08 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 21:05 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 20:57 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 20:25 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 20:19 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 20:15 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 20:14 ExO_ wrote:
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What post did he make that was solid thinking? Seriously Palmar has hardly posted anything at all so far, I'd like to know what you thought was so solid about Palmar so far that you think hes town I'm going to guess he's talking about the post where I provided some solid thinking. We talking about the flying cows post? Or perhaps the one about the spiders dancing for the Queen of England, before eating her alive! Oh wait, just like the post with your solid thinking, none of those exist. Just because I'm a nice guy (really...) On December 28 2015 18:50 Palmar wrote:
Exo is probably town. Also, I've read about 10 posts in the thread now and checked a few filter lengths. I'm glad rayn is playing and HF has a shorter than expected filter. But I haven't really read anything from either of them yet.
The reason I'm giving exo a maybe townread is his tinfoil hat theory regarding the mason claims. Most players who construct convoluted conspiracy theories, end up being townies. (If Exo is mafia, he would already know whether or not one or more of the mason claimers are mafia, so creating a theory becomes both more difficult, and it would make him worry about appearing to have extra information). The idea here is that I called you town and gave a reason for it. For the sake of this exercise let's consider you town, because otherwise this is a pointless effort. So as a townie, you have just been called town by someone, your job is now to figure out: a) Did Palmar want to call me town and made up some excuse to do it b) Did Palmar see something he found interesting, and made a conclusion based on the evidence These are really the only two options, you either believe the reason I gave for giving you a "maybe townread", or you don't. Ticktock probably reached the conclusion that my train of thought is genuine, that I actually believe you wouldn't come up with the theory you came up with as mafia, and thus my post was sincere. Now, interestingly, it's my job to try to figure out if Ticktock genuinely liked my post, or if he just saw me post something with some reasoning and decided to call me town for it because he wanted to do that anyway. I think it's a really easy read. What's interesting to me is you mention what went down with rsoultin/coag and the masons. So clearly you've read the thread. However you've only townread me so far, which is a pretty easy call to make at this point. Which makes me think you're trying to get town points for town reading me, when in reality it was a very easy thing to do. Town reading me can't be the only thing you have to offer. There's nothing particularly insightful about going along with what the rest of the thread has said before you. Any other thoughts, any scum reads? So far I think you look far more scummy trying to win a bit of town cred, than a late-to-the-party townie trying to solve the game. I haven't read the thread. I've skimmed like 2 filters and read these last 2-3 pages. To be honest I don't believe you. If you were skimming around the part where I went off on rsoultin/coag you should know that I've been town read by most everyone. That being the case, it'd be easy to call me town, and what I said about trying to get town cred for making a townie read that everyone else has already made holds true. I had no idea anyone else called you town. If you want a full disclosure on how I obtained the read on you it was like this: I respect rayn as a player so I clicked his filter and went right to his last page. on the top of page 8 of rayn's filter there is a conversation that involves all the required knowledge for me to draw the conclusions I have drawn (both about coag/rsoultin being the masons, and the evidence I used to draw the conclusion you might be town). You'll get no town cred from me, scum Why scum rather than null?
The progression of our conversation just now:
Palmar hasn't been around at all for this game so far
Enters the thread by by town reading me, specifically for the masons incident with rsoultin/coag
Claims he hasn't read any of the thread and that had no idea anybody else town read me
I'm not sure I believe his claim that he's read so little, or that he had no idea anybody else townread me. I think he's lying, and therefore I think he's scum.
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On December 28 2015 21:24 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 21:21 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 21:15 nooniansoong wrote:On December 28 2015 21:10 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 21:08 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 21:05 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 20:57 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 20:25 Palmar wrote:On December 28 2015 20:19 ExO_ wrote:
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We talking about the flying cows post? Or perhaps the one about the spiders dancing for the Queen of England, before eating her alive!
Oh wait, just like the post with your solid thinking, none of those exist. Just because I'm a nice guy (really...) On December 28 2015 18:50 Palmar wrote:
Exo is probably town. Also, I've read about 10 posts in the thread now and checked a few filter lengths. I'm glad rayn is playing and HF has a shorter than expected filter. But I haven't really read anything from either of them yet.
The reason I'm giving exo a maybe townread is his tinfoil hat theory regarding the mason claims. Most players who construct convoluted conspiracy theories, end up being townies. (If Exo is mafia, he would already know whether or not one or more of the mason claimers are mafia, so creating a theory becomes both more difficult, and it would make him worry about appearing to have extra information). The idea here is that I called you town and gave a reason for it. For the sake of this exercise let's consider you town, because otherwise this is a pointless effort. So as a townie, you have just been called town by someone, your job is now to figure out: a) Did Palmar want to call me town and made up some excuse to do it b) Did Palmar see something he found interesting, and made a conclusion based on the evidence These are really the only two options, you either believe the reason I gave for giving you a "maybe townread", or you don't. Ticktock probably reached the conclusion that my train of thought is genuine, that I actually believe you wouldn't come up with the theory you came up with as mafia, and thus my post was sincere. Now, interestingly, it's my job to try to figure out if Ticktock genuinely liked my post, or if he just saw me post something with some reasoning and decided to call me town for it because he wanted to do that anyway. I think it's a really easy read. What's interesting to me is you mention what went down with rsoultin/coag and the masons. So clearly you've read the thread. However you've only townread me so far, which is a pretty easy call to make at this point. Which makes me think you're trying to get town points for town reading me, when in reality it was a very easy thing to do. Town reading me can't be the only thing you have to offer. There's nothing particularly insightful about going along with what the rest of the thread has said before you. Any other thoughts, any scum reads? So far I think you look far more scummy trying to win a bit of town cred, than a late-to-the-party townie trying to solve the game. I haven't read the thread. I've skimmed like 2 filters and read these last 2-3 pages. To be honest I don't believe you. If you were skimming around the part where I went off on rsoultin/coag you should know that I've been town read by most everyone. That being the case, it'd be easy to call me town, and what I said about trying to get town cred for making a townie read that everyone else has already made holds true. I had no idea anyone else called you town. If you want a full disclosure on how I obtained the read on you it was like this: I respect rayn as a player so I clicked his filter and went right to his last page. on the top of page 8 of rayn's filter there is a conversation that involves all the required knowledge for me to draw the conclusions I have drawn (both about coag/rsoultin being the masons, and the evidence I used to draw the conclusion you might be town). You'll get no town cred from me, scum Why scum rather than null? The progression of our conversation just now: Palmar hasn't been around at all for this game so far Enters the thread by by town reading me, specifically for the masons incident with rsoultin/coag Claims he hasn't read any of the thread and that had no idea anybody else town read me I'm not sure I believe his claim that he's read so little, or that he had no idea anybody else townread me. I think he's lying, and therefore I think he's scum. So you think he read a lot and is saying he didn't read anything because it makes him look townier? Really? Not reading the thread is very believable to me.
Not reading the thread, yet town reading me for the exchange between myself/rsoultin/coag isn't believable to me.
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Is TT the only realistic lynch candidate for today then?
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you like the GB lynch Damdred? b/c I tend to think GB is more legitimate here and HF is more likely to be the scum
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On December 29 2015 03:23 Vivax wrote:
Lynching HF D1 would be glorious. Id pay 5 bucks to see that
I'd be down for a HF lynch
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On December 29 2015 03:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
tbh if I was Mafia in this situation I would make trash posts and glide by.
Kind of like what I'm doing now .:D
when a gunsmith makes a gun, does the person get to shoot it that night or the next? Either way please give me a gun so I can shoot this guy, or whoever gets the gun please shoot him
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On December 29 2015 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
ExO do you have an anger management problem? You seem to irrationally hate things that have done nothing to you.
You think I'm scum reading you purely out of irrational hate?
As I said HF, it's a game. And your attempt to incite an outburst of a response from me has failed.
That being said I think I prefer HF lynch to TT at this point and am willing to attempt to start the train
##unvote
##Vote HolyFlare
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 28 2015 16:04 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 00:12 sicklucker wrote:
can we not lynch him off the fact that last game we lynched him and were wrong?
You know we should learn from history and such. He could be mafia or town but I would like to have some general idea what that is before we put one of are valuable lynches on the line
If you guys want a "real" reason why I dont want vivax lynch its because it was fucking hf's idea who I think is very likely scum I'm sure this got brought up, but SL you missed Vivax last game as barely present mafia. He's also not as enthusiastic as he was in the town game you are referencing here. Somewhere in-between I'd say.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 28 2015 16:05 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 00:17 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 00:11 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 00:08 sicklucker wrote:On December 28 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker do you have any real reason to not lynch Vivax? Ill know his alignment 99% of the time by day 3. Here if we lynch him its a stupid gamble. Like hes just such a godamn easy read and people keep lynching him and its pissing me off. Literraly my last game I said lets not lynch fucking vivax day one and then town went and did it. DONT FUCKING DO IT AGAIN ITS VERY BAD SOOOO BAD I think i can read Vivax aswell. Why is he town then? you really think Vivax is a better lynch candidate than somebody like BF at this point? From the people who have posted, yes. I have to disagree. I get that I might not be able to make the same metareads as others here, but is Vivax really THAT scummy to this point? Everything that makes Vivax scummy (low post count, not contributing a lot) BF is worse at. At least Vivax is somewhat active in the thread. People posting = more information. People like BF not posting do not add any information at all. Exo's a cool dude. Def keep him alive.
Re-looking at TT's filter, these posts were back-back. He tells SL that he missed Vivax as mafia in the previous game, implying that Vivax could be a mafia sliding by this game, but then says to keep me around for not wanting to get rid of Vivax? It doesn't make sense. Am I misreading it or?
Either way I think I might be more inclined to go back to TT
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On December 29 2015 03:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...] GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible. If you don't understand why, then i can't help you. "WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out. Pushing a townie is okay. Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not. This is a really shitty case GlowingBear..... Tell me what's wrong with it Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid). If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead. Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT. There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does.... Again, it's not about who he scumreads. It's about HOW he does it. He kept on Vivax. People said he shouldn't. He threw suspicions everywhere without going anywhere with those suspicions. Vivax claimed. Holyflare agreed Tictock was scum. Never votes Tictock and pushes kush for something that doesn't make kush scum. Finally votes Tictock one hour ago. I post and he finds me suspicious. I say he is scum, he twists my arguments to start a wagon on me. My main argument is: he keeps saying Tictock is a good lynch but is reluctant to lynch him (never really interacts much with Tictock), when he sees himself out of options he throw suspicions everywhere and starts a wagon on me while twisting my arguments. So that would only make HF mafia if TicTock is scum right? Because otherwise he is refusing to vote for a townie -- which is not scummy. I am not going to check rn if your story stands up or not, because i don't think that makes HF mafia even if it does. I think you are exaggerrating the "reluctant to lynch" thing.
isn't a matter or refusing to vote for what he thinks isn't a townie? If HF thinks TT is scum then why would he be hesitant to vote him?
The only reason to be hesitant about lynching a townie here (who HF suspect is mafia) is that he knows that TT is town and the only way he'd know that is if he was scum
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I was under the impression that HF was simultaneously claiming he was in favor of a TT lynch, while doing nothing to actually push that lynch and instead was just purely tunneling Vivax. He's trying to claim he was on the TT train and supported it while only just now changing his vote.
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On December 29 2015 04:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I feel pretty much the same way and am now bored until the flip.
Can you break down your case on TT?
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Does the gunsmith's given gun get to shoot the night he gives it, or does it have to wait until the following night? I asked earlier but if anybody answered me I didn't see it
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On December 29 2015 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 04:22 ExO_ wrote:
Does the gunsmith's given gun get to shoot the night he gives it, or does it have to wait until the following night? I asked earlier but if anybody answered me I didn't see it If you can't find it in the OP PM the hosts.
it's not explained in the OP (or I just missed it)
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On December 29 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also Rayn if you thought I'd ever post a chart-related reason like that as scum and not actually have a chart you're very silly  I can't actually be arsed to make charts as scum though. Nor have an 8 page filter on D1 unless I really really like my team.
I'm so tried of everyone saying;
I can't be arsed to do X as scum. That's only true until it isn't anymore.
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throwing my vote back on TT, will be back before EoD.
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On December 29 2015 04:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 04:33 ExO_ wrote:
throwing my vote back on TT, will be back before EoD. don't do it, he's town
explain this for me for starters then:
On December 29 2015 03:48 ExO_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 28 2015 16:04 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 00:12 sicklucker wrote:
can we not lynch him off the fact that last game we lynched him and were wrong?
You know we should learn from history and such. He could be mafia or town but I would like to have some general idea what that is before we put one of are valuable lynches on the line
If you guys want a "real" reason why I dont want vivax lynch its because it was fucking hf's idea who I think is very likely scum I'm sure this got brought up, but SL you missed Vivax last game as barely present mafia. He's also not as enthusiastic as he was in the town game you are referencing here. Somewhere in-between I'd say. On December 28 2015 16:05 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 00:17 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 00:11 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 00:08 sicklucker wrote:On December 28 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker do you have any real reason to not lynch Vivax? Ill know his alignment 99% of the time by day 3. Here if we lynch him its a stupid gamble. Like hes just such a godamn easy read and people keep lynching him and its pissing me off. Literraly my last game I said lets not lynch fucking vivax day one and then town went and did it. DONT FUCKING DO IT AGAIN ITS VERY BAD SOOOO BAD I think i can read Vivax aswell. Why is he town then? you really think Vivax is a better lynch candidate than somebody like BF at this point? From the people who have posted, yes. I have to disagree. I get that I might not be able to make the same metareads as others here, but is Vivax really THAT scummy to this point? Everything that makes Vivax scummy (low post count, not contributing a lot) BF is worse at. At least Vivax is somewhat active in the thread. People posting = more information. People like BF not posting do not add any information at all. Exo's a cool dude. Def keep him alive. Re-looking at TT's filter, these posts were back-back. He tells SL that he missed Vivax as mafia in the previous game, implying that Vivax could be a mafia sliding by this game, but then says to keep me around for not wanting to get rid of Vivax? It doesn't make sense. Am I misreading it or? Either way I think I might be more inclined to go back to TT
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where's rsoultin/coag btw? would be nice to have people who I (more or less) can trust at this point giving opinions
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On December 29 2015 04:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 04:34 ExO_ wrote:On December 29 2015 04:33 Holyflare wrote:On December 29 2015 04:33 ExO_ wrote:
throwing my vote back on TT, will be back before EoD. don't do it, he's town explain this for me for starters then: On December 29 2015 03:48 ExO_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 28 2015 16:04 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 00:12 sicklucker wrote:
can we not lynch him off the fact that last game we lynched him and were wrong?
You know we should learn from history and such. He could be mafia or town but I would like to have some general idea what that is before we put one of are valuable lynches on the line
If you guys want a "real" reason why I dont want vivax lynch its because it was fucking hf's idea who I think is very likely scum I'm sure this got brought up, but SL you missed Vivax last game as barely present mafia. He's also not as enthusiastic as he was in the town game you are referencing here. Somewhere in-between I'd say. On December 28 2015 16:05 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 00:17 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 00:11 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 00:08 sicklucker wrote:On December 28 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker do you have any real reason to not lynch Vivax? Ill know his alignment 99% of the time by day 3. Here if we lynch him its a stupid gamble. Like hes just such a godamn easy read and people keep lynching him and its pissing me off. Literraly my last game I said lets not lynch fucking vivax day one and then town went and did it. DONT FUCKING DO IT AGAIN ITS VERY BAD SOOOO BAD I think i can read Vivax aswell. Why is he town then? you really think Vivax is a better lynch candidate than somebody like BF at this point? From the people who have posted, yes. I have to disagree. I get that I might not be able to make the same metareads as others here, but is Vivax really THAT scummy to this point? Everything that makes Vivax scummy (low post count, not contributing a lot) BF is worse at. At least Vivax is somewhat active in the thread. People posting = more information. People like BF not posting do not add any information at all. Exo's a cool dude. Def keep him alive. Re-looking at TT's filter, these posts were back-back. He tells SL that he missed Vivax as mafia in the previous game, implying that Vivax could be a mafia sliding by this game, but then says to keep me around for not wanting to get rid of Vivax? It doesn't make sense. Am I misreading it or? Either way I think I might be more inclined to go back to TT ![[image loading]](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/35/7d/31/357d31ecba4c8a1152b75cf5cd84a92d.jpg)
HAHAH HOHOHO joke was so funny well done!
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HF for somebody who chastised me so much, you're turning into quite the hypocrite. Regardless of your alignment, I wouldn't be sad if you and your cancerous attitude were lynched/shot/w.e else out of this game
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