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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 05 2016 14:01 GMT
#4061
I am honestly just still extremely sceptical of Palmar, for the experience he has (having looked him up before) he is very likely capable of pulling this as scum, and I find it so hard to believe that with the number of people that had cause to see him as mafia that he couldn't be. One person is one thing, but four?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 05 2016 14:02 GMT
#4062
His last argument against me that this doesn't make him mafia (etc)....that's great but it doesn't make him town either.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 05 2016 14:06 GMT
#4063
On January 05 2016 22:50 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 08:06 Damdred wrote:
Its very possible we had two scum up GB refused to claim blue to get a lynch averted and refused to vote on a wagon to save himself.

which technically means that it coud be palmar or slam. More than like slam but its worth considering palm.


Here's an interesting tidbit based on my current bus theory -

Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 08:04 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2016 08:03 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm glad it was the case hrm I look sorta bad but it made sense to me at the time

technically it could've been a scum vs scum wagon (see gb didn't vote slam). But he also may just have given up.

either way, checking slam: fantastic idea.


If Alakaslam flips godfather, 1000% lynch Palmar.


this is tinfoil hat crazy theories. I don't think mafia have complex strategies like convincing the dt to check to godfather. I think they are just trying to not get lynched and not lynch too many of their buddies.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 05 2016 14:08 GMT
#4064
I am probably going to lose us the game by lynching people who disagree with me
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 05 2016 14:10 GMT
#4065
You're insane, people who look like mafia are always worth the check. yes, if the cop hits scum there's 25% chance that scum is godfather and we get a green check, but literally everyone knows to take a green check with a grain of salt until the godfather is flipped.

A red check, on the other hand is 75% (2/3 millers are dead) chance of hitting mafia.

I don't think I want slam lynched tomorrow, although there are some arguments to be made for it. The most important one is that GB didn't vote on his counterwagon.
Computer says mafia
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 05 2016 14:16 GMT
#4066
DT can decide for himself as far as I'm concerned.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 05 2016 14:43 GMT
#4067
I don't have enough strong townreads which sort of sucks.

Exo and Trfel both look significantly worse given yesterday, especially exo.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 05 2016 14:44 GMT
#4068
Like I know this is massive wifom, but at least think about exo if I die
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 05 2016 15:09 GMT
#4069
Basically my problem with Exo is that he changed his mind on me after the lynch.

Sure, I lynched mafia, but all the concerns people had about me should have remained true in their mind even after the flip. If someone does mafia things he is mafia, even if he randomly votes for scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 05 2016 15:09 GMT
#4070
I'll try to explain better later, but I'm sure you guys can figure out what I'm talking about.
Computer says mafia
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 05 2016 15:10 GMT
#4071
On January 05 2016 23:44 Palmar wrote:
Like I know this is massive wifom, but at least think about exo if I die


GB twice called SL and myself town. He also called rayn town (who was town). Scum love to call town as town. I think you want to lynch me because I thought you were scum who talked his was out a lynch.

I'm still not 100% sure that isn't the case here. But if you want to omgus lynch me you'll only have 1 more mislynch in the entire game you can make. Unless of course you're scum then killing me is obviously in your favor.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 05 2016 15:11 GMT
#4072
when I think about it, technically NM actually looks better for retaining suspicion on me, when the easy thing to do is to just go "hey ho he lynched mafia so he town"
Computer says mafia
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 05 2016 15:11 GMT
#4073
On January 06 2016 00:09 Palmar wrote:
Basically my problem with Exo is that he changed his mind on me after the lynch.

Sure, I lynched mafia, but all the concerns people had about me should have remained true in their mind even after the flip. If someone does mafia things he is mafia, even if he randomly votes for scum.


woah woah woah back up. I said I had to reevaluate you, not that I changed my mind on you. Don't try to misrepresent what I said.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 05 2016 15:12 GMT
#4074
On January 06 2016 00:10 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 23:44 Palmar wrote:
Like I know this is massive wifom, but at least think about exo if I die


GB twice called SL and myself town. He also called rayn town (who was town). Scum love to call town as town. I think you want to lynch me because I thought you were scum who talked his was out a lynch.

I'm still not 100% sure that isn't the case here. But if you want to omgus lynch me you'll only have 1 more mislynch in the entire game you can make. Unless of course you're scum then killing me is obviously in your favor.

I don't read dead mafia filters. That's how you lose games.

(example: guardians of the galaxy)
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 05 2016 15:13 GMT
#4075
On January 06 2016 00:11 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 00:09 Palmar wrote:
Basically my problem with Exo is that he changed his mind on me after the lynch.

Sure, I lynched mafia, but all the concerns people had about me should have remained true in their mind even after the flip. If someone does mafia things he is mafia, even if he randomly votes for scum.


woah woah woah back up. I said I had to reevaluate you, not that I changed my mind on you. Don't try to misrepresent what I said.

well how has the reevaluation gone so far?
Computer says mafia
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 05 2016 15:13 GMT
#4076
On January 06 2016 00:12 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 00:10 ExO_ wrote:
On January 05 2016 23:44 Palmar wrote:
Like I know this is massive wifom, but at least think about exo if I die


GB twice called SL and myself town. He also called rayn town (who was town). Scum love to call town as town. I think you want to lynch me because I thought you were scum who talked his was out a lynch.

I'm still not 100% sure that isn't the case here. But if you want to omgus lynch me you'll only have 1 more mislynch in the entire game you can make. Unless of course you're scum then killing me is obviously in your favor.

I don't read dead mafia filters. That's how you lose games.

(example: guardians of the galaxy)


Isn't that skipping a lot of valuable information? Like that just sounds idiotic to not read the filter of a confirmed scum
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 05 2016 15:14 GMT
#4077
On January 06 2016 00:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 00:11 ExO_ wrote:
On January 06 2016 00:09 Palmar wrote:
Basically my problem with Exo is that he changed his mind on me after the lynch.

Sure, I lynched mafia, but all the concerns people had about me should have remained true in their mind even after the flip. If someone does mafia things he is mafia, even if he randomly votes for scum.


woah woah woah back up. I said I had to reevaluate you, not that I changed my mind on you. Don't try to misrepresent what I said.

well how has the reevaluation gone so far?


It hasn't yet. I just woke up. And instead of reading I'm in here right now making sure you aren't coming up with some silly way to misrepresent what I said then bash me for it
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 05 2016 15:21 GMT
#4078
However Rayn/Artanis/Vivax/Koshi all thought you were scum Palmar, and all are dead townies. And at the start of day 2, I said scum Palmar would come and talk his way out of a lynch. And I think that is certainly a possibility. The fact that GB was scum is points in your favor, but if Slam flips scum too then It stops even being a question in my mind that you're scum. I was wrong about GB so I at least owe you a relook.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 05 2016 15:23 GMT
#4079
phoneposting -

On January 06 2016 00:11 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 00:09 Palmar wrote:
Basically my problem with Exo is that he changed his mind on me after the lynch.

Sure, I lynched mafia, but all the concerns people had about me should have remained true in their mind even after the flip. If someone does mafia things he is mafia, even if he randomly votes for scum.


woah woah woah back up. I said I had to reevaluate you, not that I changed my mind on you. Don't try to misrepresent what I said.


He did it apparently with Vivax and Artanis day 1 (or 2, it was in their filters). This is a broken record. Do you see a pattern here?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 05 2016 15:26 GMT
#4080
On January 06 2016 00:21 ExO_ wrote:
However Rayn/Artanis/Vivax/Koshi all thought you were scum Palmar, and all are dead townies. And at the start of day 2, I said scum Palmar would come and talk his way out of a lynch. And I think that is certainly a possibility. The fact that GB was scum is points in your favor, but if Slam flips scum too then It stops even being a question in my mind that you're scum. I was wrong about GB so I at least owe you a relook.


I disagree with this one part given the setup but I can see why you've arrived at that conclusion. There was adequate cause to scumread Slam from what I've read. I would give Palmar points if a GF/RB/rolecop flipped but not a vanilla scum.

Also mind you, more of them scumread Palmar than did Slam if I recall correctly. The mafia motivation is to get the cred when you are under pressure like that (and I'm ignoring the fact that he's afk on the weekends as most town veterans in this game would treat that as NAI and not as part of their scumread on him).
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
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