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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 00:42 GMT
#323
On December 27 2015 09:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 09:22 ritoky wrote:
are you really scum reading the guy with 0 posts prior to this game who posted useless stuff and did a jester speculation in an open setup? REALLY?

dumb=/=scum; that guy is ML bait for days.


Perhaps defending the person that has a voice of their own and can respond how he or she pleases is not the best strategy in a game based on lack of information. Your argument is a classic misrepresentation and exaggeration of the situation, we have simply proposed questions to a person questioning how their strategy would come to fruition. He has also played mafia in other locations which may or may not come in to play.

Why are you so eager to jump to this person's defence? I for one would like to hear his responses.


because how many games in a row is it where we have a new player who enters in; says some dumb shit that is very obviously town and then people spend days babbling over how they could be mafia when they just aren't. last game was shapelog, game before that was moosy, game before that was cephiro.

i know this is hard for you since you're out of practice and a firm believer in dumb=scum; but that ness guy is like always town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 00:47 GMT
#330
On December 27 2015 09:41 GlowingBear wrote:
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On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote:
town: artanis, ness
pocketing me: slam, rsoul
mafia lean: gb, trfel


Why is Artanis town?

Why is slam buddying you (where did you get that idea?)? Do you think the guys that are buddying you are Mafia?

Why am I Mafia? Why truffle is Mafia?


artanis is freely posting thoughts instead of releasing them in blocks of text. artans waits, sounds calculated, and posts in paragraphs/walls when he is scum.

slam and rsoul are doing things that aren't alignment indicative but make me like them; plus slam is just hot irl.

you're mafia because town GB calls that guy an idiot or worthless, town GB doesn't call him mafia.

trfel is mafia cuz he sounded whimpy. having played with trfel as mafia recently, i think his biggest tell is that he sounds meek and whimpy as mafia.

we done with your shitter read?

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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 00:52 GMT
#333
On December 27 2015 09:50 ExO_ wrote:
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On December 27 2015 09:47 ritoky wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote:
town: artanis, ness
pocketing me: slam, rsoul
mafia lean: gb, trfel


Why is Artanis town?

Why is slam buddying you (where did you get that idea?)? Do you think the guys that are buddying you are Mafia?

Why am I Mafia? Why truffle is Mafia?


artanis is freely posting thoughts instead of releasing them in blocks of text. artans waits, sounds calculated, and posts in paragraphs/walls when he is scum.

slam and rsoul are doing things that aren't alignment indicative but make me like them; plus slam is just hot irl.

you're mafia because town GB calls that guy an idiot or worthless, town GB doesn't call him mafia.

trfel is mafia cuz he sounded whimpy. having played with trfel as mafia recently, i think his biggest tell is that he sounds meek and whimpy as mafia.

we done with your shitter read?

[image loading]


you like chu2 a bit too much, can we get some Haruhi gifs?


chuunibyo makes some of the best gifs tho D:
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 01:03 GMT
#338
sometimes you get mafia mason'd in a 2 person mason group with flavor that justifies it perfectly and solo lose a game for town. but then sometimes you #downunder2 the game.

i can get behind vivax for now.

##vote: vivax

“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 01:35 GMT
#356
so why do you think vivax is a dick who might be mafia cuz he doesn't believe your tone read, when you just backed out of a tone read?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 01:36 GMT
#358
omfg CLICK PREVIEW IF UR GONNA POST QUOTES. STAHP FAIL QUOTING FSDXJAJSSAJSD
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 01:45 GMT
#365
the more rsoul posts the more i remember that i have the most dogshit read on her. like my literal worst read on all of TL.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 03:00 GMT
#459
On December 27 2015 11:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 27 2015 11:39 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 11:07 nooniansoong wrote:
@exo don't get mad. Just try to find scum and answer any questions people ask you.
If we lynch you and you're town, that's our problem not yours.

No. Its actually his problem.
Abd by blowing your smurf you earned my vote.
Shit. Cheap. Crap. Die.


Kush hasn't revealed anything, he has already said his smurf name pre-game in the Newbie game:

On December 22 2015 10:11 nooniansoong wrote:
/in this is kush


Oh.. It makes sense then why i missed the post.
Maybe i should get my laptop..


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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 03:07 GMT
#469
On December 27 2015 11:27 sicklucker wrote:
its just funny that you scum read me for making a sarcastic post. but if you ignore the sarcastic part im doing a very townie thing asking you about your mafia history


pretty meh about this self-aware part of this post. could be mafia frustrated about not getting townreads for things he thinks he should be TR for.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 04:08 GMT
#517
snow + kid = tiring
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 04:09 GMT
#519
everyone is like "put the baby in the snow and take a million pictures of baby's first snow"

meanwhile i am having panic attacks not wanting kid to get a cold. rip working in medicine
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 04:11 GMT
#522
rayn agrees with all but 1 of my reads and then calls me scum anyway, probably town rayn.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 04:14 GMT
#524
On December 27 2015 12:23 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 27 2015 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote:
@rayn

im not here to argue. i was just trying to understand your perspective and get a read on you. i get what youre saying about gb but im not sure that it makes him town? Is this a firm read of yours, cause you were pretty sure in drams.

It's quite firm. I don't know what you are referring with the bolded part?
IS it on D1 (when i considered him town), if so, yes i was -- until D3 (or N2 idk) when he said something super unbelieveable that had no thought behind it.


D1 you were quite adamant when i couldnt see it. The problem is gb is posting but not being ADD at all...which is how i read him. like he seems pretty focused on a limited number of things rather than being volatile bear. if youre sure i can drop him for a day cause i like a viva lynch too


pretty much that, he hasn't spazzed out and yelled at me for calling him mafia or tried to make love to me. he is just calm and focused posting. i may be slightly biased because he appears to be tunneling on me and it's pretty w/e.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 04:18 GMT
#526
i did lead a mislynch on him over that read last game tho. maybe it is a bad read now that i should not use. still think he just calls ness bad instead of mafia tho, plus basically re-iterating what HF said about follow-up.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 04:19 GMT
#527
On December 27 2015 13:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 13:11 ritoky wrote:
rayn agrees with all but 1 of my reads and then calls me scum anyway, probably town rayn.

Yeah i don't think there is anything "contradicting" in that if that's what you want to say?
And i am not calling you scum am i?


oh you're not? i thought the whole "you should have opposite read" and "one game he was super town, but..." indicated scum lean. guess was assuming wrong.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 04:23 GMT
#531
On December 27 2015 13:22 Tictock wrote:
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On December 27 2015 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:06 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:01 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta.

its bad to go off of meta.

It's not. And i don't even consider him 100% town. It was just to express -- based on rotoky's read, that if you do go off by meta, as he did, he should come to another conclusion.

Well, it kinda is. You don't know when or how a person thinks. So going off of their experience isn't very smart.

What if he's changed his play style?

But i haven't played any other games with any of you, so i'm going to go ahead and assume that your logic of him being town isn't bad, but it shouldn't be relied on.

Well here is where we disagree..
And it's probably because we have a different definition of what "meta" means.

But let's not argue about this since it is pointless. I can 100% tell i am not going to lynch anyone based on meta, only for what they do / do not do.

Meta means mafia game experience/behaveior traits as mafia/town.

Yeah i wasn't going to argue with you regardless, but i am curious, who do you think is scum at this point?

TT, Vivax, kushmasta maybe (i dont remember his scumr name anymore, noomanoomasomething).
Have you even read my posts at all? I think i have been quite clear in what i think.


Sure you have basically the same read as me on Kush but I'm scum for it

Seems legit


and your read on kush is: he's a smurf

which he literally explained pre-game when he said "this is a smurf, cuz i can't view kush account at work"

...like wat?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 04:25 GMT
#533
hey rayn, you should click on boxerfred's filter. it'll amuse you i am sure.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 04:37 GMT
#541
now that kush isn't mafia for that reason, is he mafia for another? or who is mafia?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 04:47 GMT
#556
On December 27 2015 13:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 13:19 ritoky wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:11 ritoky wrote:
rayn agrees with all but 1 of my reads and then calls me scum anyway, probably town rayn.

Yeah i don't think there is anything "contradicting" in that if that's what you want to say?
And i am not calling you scum am i?


oh you're not? i thought the whole "you should have opposite read" and "one game he was super town, but..." indicated scum lean. guess was assuming wrong.

To be honest i would prolly consider you scum if it wasn't for the read on BH in that one game....
I actually do think Trfel jumping to conclusions without proofreading what he says beforehand is is quite big of a towntell for him. It's like... he thinks something is true (which can be clearly seen from his posts), then figures out he is wrong (or something happens) and he backs off. I think it shows he is thinking about the game, and i have no idea why you think that is scummy. Also his posts were not bad at all on any level, as as i said it shows he is actually re-evaluating his reads.

Him having much/few reads at the point of the game is not alignment indicative i think.


i was mafia with him quite recently and he was rather meek and unsure that game. very non-committal, asking for advice, waiting to pick a side until later etc. some of that meek tone and play i see so far in this game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 27 2015 04:52 GMT
#560
On December 27 2015 13:50 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 13:14 ritoky wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:23 rsoultin wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote:
@rayn

im not here to argue. i was just trying to understand your perspective and get a read on you. i get what youre saying about gb but im not sure that it makes him town? Is this a firm read of yours, cause you were pretty sure in drams.

It's quite firm. I don't know what you are referring with the bolded part?
IS it on D1 (when i considered him town), if so, yes i was -- until D3 (or N2 idk) when he said something super unbelieveable that had no thought behind it.


D1 you were quite adamant when i couldnt see it. The problem is gb is posting but not being ADD at all...which is how i read him. like he seems pretty focused on a limited number of things rather than being volatile bear. if youre sure i can drop him for a day cause i like a viva lynch too


pretty much that, he hasn't spazzed out and yelled at me for calling him mafia or tried to make love to me. he is just calm and focused posting. i may be slightly biased because he appears to be tunneling on me and it's pretty w/e.


I'm actually trying to further evaluate you. I didn't like that post I've quoted earlier but I was ok with your answer, and it seems people don't agree with me.

I'm still waiting for your answer tho


what post? i must have missed it
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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