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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 30 2015 18:12 GMT
#501
On December 31 2015 03:08 nooniansoong wrote:
but onegu
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 01:13 Onegu wrote:
Kush is odd. Like he doesnt qualify for the onegu rule because he didnt call me scum.

Onegu rule is I troll and post little day one and if you call me scum for it you are scum looking for a mislynch. But since kush says it is complete policy he is fine.

What I do find kinda odd is kush is a very similar player to me. And last game when he was scum and people wanted to lynch him day one I was the one who said give him time. Yet this game he wants to lynch me? Why didnt he want to lynch me in the last game we just played. Doesnt make much since to me that he wants to do it this game but not last game.


it would have been so easy for him to scumread me there are he didnt.


He usually does this to get towncred. My very first game with him he did it as scum. He defended me when I was getting scumread.

I actually have a good reason to call Onegu scum
I'm adorable.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
December 30 2015 18:12 GMT
#502
I found a scumslip why arent you voting the scumslip?

Shape. I really dont want to read his posts... Guess I will
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
December 30 2015 18:13 GMT
#503
On December 31 2015 03:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 03:08 nooniansoong wrote:
but onegu
On December 31 2015 01:13 Onegu wrote:
Kush is odd. Like he doesnt qualify for the onegu rule because he didnt call me scum.

Onegu rule is I troll and post little day one and if you call me scum for it you are scum looking for a mislynch. But since kush says it is complete policy he is fine.

What I do find kinda odd is kush is a very similar player to me. And last game when he was scum and people wanted to lynch him day one I was the one who said give him time. Yet this game he wants to lynch me? Why didnt he want to lynch me in the last game we just played. Doesnt make much since to me that he wants to do it this game but not last game.


it would have been so easy for him to scumread me there are he didnt.


He usually does this to get towncred. My very first game with him he did it as scum. He defended me when I was getting scumread.

I actually have a good reason to call Onegu scum



Your reason is?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 30 2015 18:14 GMT
#504
On December 30 2015 12:32 TheCow wrote:
This post is being written as of 425.
===

Regarding my early-game read on Irish.
Irish's comment of scott "bandwagoning" noonian felt like an overreaction and the usage of the buzzword (##aside <I realize the irony of using this word>) left a bad taste in my mouth. The entirety of 185 looked like shade, with that bit on 168 also sticking out. This worry was partially extinguished by giaga lamping 172.

Distancing occurred between Kmatt and Irish in the early game with Irish putting (from a SvS PoV) unnecessary pressure onto Kmatt. This caused minor polarizations in my reads. At this moment, Irish was gut-scum. #236 furthered this read.

The developments in my Kmatt and Scott reads contributed to me reevaluating my Irish read. Upon reevaluating the earlier posts in the context of the later posts, things started to line up in a more town-ish way especially with the recent #395. So ultimately it was a null read.

Would you like me to go into more specific detail and do post analysis, or does an overview suffice?


Awwwwww!

This guy is so cute
I'm adorable.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
December 30 2015 18:14 GMT
#505
ya please share reason i have to get back to work and i'd love to have a reason to vote for onegu.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 30 2015 18:15 GMT
#506
On December 31 2015 03:13 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 03:12 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 31 2015 03:08 nooniansoong wrote:
but onegu
On December 31 2015 01:13 Onegu wrote:
Kush is odd. Like he doesnt qualify for the onegu rule because he didnt call me scum.

Onegu rule is I troll and post little day one and if you call me scum for it you are scum looking for a mislynch. But since kush says it is complete policy he is fine.

What I do find kinda odd is kush is a very similar player to me. And last game when he was scum and people wanted to lynch him day one I was the one who said give him time. Yet this game he wants to lynch me? Why didnt he want to lynch me in the last game we just played. Doesnt make much since to me that he wants to do it this game but not last game.


it would have been so easy for him to scumread me there are he didnt.


He usually does this to get towncred. My very first game with him he did it as scum. He defended me when I was getting scumread.

I actually have a good reason to call Onegu scum



Your reason is?


THERE! I've got your attention

How do you read mderg, shapelog and scott?
I'm adorable.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
December 30 2015 18:15 GMT
#507
On December 31 2015 03:12 Onegu wrote:
I found a scumslip why arent you voting the scumslip?

Shape. I really dont want to read his posts... Guess I will


I think it was pretty obvious he meant if you are town you are an easy mislynch, which can fuck over town lategame.
Not that you are necessarily a mislynch this game.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 30 2015 18:15 GMT
#508
Vote Count - Day 1


scott31337 (3): Irishbound, NocturneMage, mderg
GiygaS (2): Kmatt, scott31337, Fidei86
Onegu (1): nooniansoong
Kmatt (1): TheCow
nooniansoong (1): Shapelog
GlowingBear (1): Kmatt
Fidei86 (1): Onegu

Not Voting (2): GiygaS, GlowingBear

At this time, scott31337 is slated to be lynched.
Day 1 ends in on Wednesday, Dec 30 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
December 30 2015 18:18 GMT
#509
On December 31 2015 03:15 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 03:12 Onegu wrote:
I found a scumslip why arent you voting the scumslip?

Shape. I really dont want to read his posts... Guess I will


I think it was pretty obvious he meant if you are town you are an easy mislynch, which can fuck over town lategame.
Not that you are necessarily a mislynch this game.



That is how he would have worded if he was town. But he says I am a mislynch.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
December 30 2015 18:19 GMT
#510
already gave mderg the town read because of him questioning you. will read more filters after dota
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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
December 30 2015 18:19 GMT
#511
fidei giving me some weak scumfeels for reasons i dont have time to explain. ill vote him i suppose.

irish really lynched scum 60% on d1? I don't believe it.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 30 2015 18:20 GMT
#512
On December 30 2015 23:30 Kmatt wrote:
Pretty much the same sentiment as above for me. I leave for work in 30 mins and don't get out until 5pm Burger-time (vote o'clock).

However I am going to assert that GB is the more dangerous target. Sure, Scott was acting "scummy" by not really participating, but he hasn't really derailed the thread or caused trouble (yet). GB on the other hand is an active poster who has been calling quite a few scumreads (myself included) with virtually no justification, as well as some very empty townreads. The fishy interactions with Noon are enough to seal the deal for me.

More importantly, if we were to lynch Scott, we would learn almost nothing. Even if he came up scum, his posts have been so hollow that we wouldn't have a solid lead to go from there. Unless GB can clean up his act in time, there's a lot more to be gained out of him.

##unvote GiygaS
##vote GlowingBear


This is bad, I was just townreading you :/

You think Gyigas is mafia. So you vote him. Then you see a lynch on scott going on and you wouldn't get enough information from his flip. So you vote ME instead of trying to push a lynch on your target?
I'm adorable.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
December 30 2015 18:25 GMT
#513
lemme summarize reasoning for voting fidei real quick.
Several posts that are long and have nothign to do with scumhunting. Talking about past games, talking about the virtues of policy lynches, etc.
In his big reads post, his scumreads are summaries of me and gigas' play put into a scummy light. He latches on to some of my trolly posts and doesn't stop to think "why would scum make such overtly scummy posts"?

On December 30 2015 23:27 Fidei86 wrote:Scum

Gigya - He has a filter almost totally devoid of reads. His one TR is Irish (#214) but at the same time in his post at #192 he actually says that as Irish is experienced, the post could have been faked. ???. He also suspects GB for his "matter of fact town read", even though he agrees with it? The only thing keeping this from moving into policy is that he has a couple of posts where he talks about non-game stuff (#225, #228). If you have time to do that, you have time to play as well. This is how newbie mafia play, imo.

Noon/Kush - This whole filter makes me want to facepalm. He TRs Scott for saying he could "possibly jump" on someone else's read. WTF? I just don't understand this read at all - mafia are the ones who are going to hedge and give weak reads, not town. He then goes into a day-long "woe is me, D1 is so hard" stupor, which is (a) totally destructive to town, and (b) effective at hiding his thoughts on the game. Having said that, he then seems to basically mindlessly sheep GB onto his read onto Kmatt. I also don't follow his point about NM and KMatt whiteknighting, since a bunch of other people also came into the thread to say that timestamp analysis wasn't helpful. He then also prods a bunch of people into giving reads, despite the fact that he himself has given almost no content.
##Vote -- Gigya

nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
December 30 2015 18:26 GMT
#514
GB were you lying about hacing a reason on onegu scumread?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 30 2015 18:35 GMT
#515
Cool I've finished catching up.

town
Fidei

NocturneMage

Irishbound
(the way these three are engaging the thread looks like townies trying to solve the game. They see posts, they react, they go after information to further investigate people's alignment)

Kush
(I've played games with kush before and as mafia he really doesn't care, and he seems to care here. He is here, he is commenting stuff. It's a read mostly based on meta, tho)

Shapelog
(my weakest townread. I think his excitement to play is genuine, but the way he is engaging the thread is a little more passive than I expect from a townie. His opinions aren't firm. So I think he is townie but I have an eye open regarding him)

Scott is null. I've made a promise to keep him alive for more than one day because he usually plays like this. Actually, those incongruences you've guys found in Scott's post could come from town Scott based on his previous games (I think Battle of the Drams is the one I'm thinking about, but I'm not really sure the name of the game I remember him playing like this as town)

TheCow is null because I have no idea what his posts are actually after, but I think the formatting is SO SO CUUUUTE

Kmatt I had him as mafia, then I reevaluated and thought he might be town (after talking to kush), then he voted me using a very poor reasoning to do so. He is null but very close to scum

mafia
mderg
(no original thoughts. the guy is just following the thread and rarely putting any original thoughts on the thread. Throw suspicions without going after it, like he did talking about me and kush avoiding each otherm and simply isn't caring for actually uncovering people's alignment)

Onegu
(Meta: he is too invested in the game) (Evidence: calls fidei out for a dumb reason as a scumslip, saying Fidei is mafia for saying Onegu is a mislynch. This is bad, but the greatest problem isn't that this is a bad reason to jump on someone. It's because one of Shapelog's first post was this [spoiler]
On December 29 2015 07:06 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 07:05 scott31337 wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:04 nooniansoong wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
I wanted to be blue so much


it's so anti-town to claim vt


I agree with the stone man here. Haven't you learned yet Bear?

He might need another mislynch......
[/spoiler] but he never suspects Shapelog for TMI - Too Much Insight)

I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 30 2015 18:35 GMT
#516
On December 31 2015 03:26 nooniansoong wrote:
GB were you lying about hacing a reason on onegu scumread?


Sorry, I was writing the list post. It is there.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 30 2015 18:36 GMT
#517
Oh I forgot about Gyigas... that's bad...
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 30 2015 18:38 GMT
#518
I must say I'm more confident we hit mafia by lynching mderg than Onegu.

Maybe Kmatt, that reason to vote me is bullshit.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 30 2015 18:40 GMT
#519
On December 31 2015 03:15 disformation wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1


scott31337 (3): Irishbound, NocturneMage, mderg
GiygaS (2): Kmatt, scott31337, Fidei86
Onegu (1): nooniansoong
Kmatt (1): TheCow
nooniansoong (1): Shapelog
GlowingBear (1): Kmatt
Fidei86 (1): Onegu

Not Voting (2): GiygaS, GlowingBear

At this time, scott31337 is slated to be lynched.
Day 1 ends in on Wednesday, Dec 30 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.


Actualy ROFL the thinks scott is a bad lynch when his main scumread IS THE SECOND WAGON but instead of arguing people should vote Gyigas with him he UNVOTES HIS MAIN SCUMREAD to VOTE ME while saying multiple times I could be town.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 30 2015 18:40 GMT
#520
I'm lynching Kmatt today and no one else.
I'm adorable.
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