EPTOn December 30 2015 11:18 Irishbound wrote:b) I find the timing of his push on Onegu (When there was attention on Scott) as well as his shotty reasoning behind town reading Scott in this post to mean that he makes a lot of sense as scum with Scott.
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Town]-- Nocturne - Mderg ---- Kmatt -- TheCow - Shape ----- [Fidei ∙ Onegu ] ---- Giyga - Noon ----- Scott -----[Scum] | ||
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On December 30 2015 12:33 NocturneMage wrote:I think the lynch list needs to be somewhere in this: Noon/GB/Scott I'd add Giyga and still need to get through a GB ISO but otherwise this is exactly where my head is at, still feel most confident about Scott being mafia here and would prefer his lynch inside the pool though. | ||
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Irishbound
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Don't like Scotts pop in post with little to no content other than him town reading Noonan for something nonsensical, he seems experienced enough to have seen scum white knight a player before. The fact that they're both town reading each other for shotty reasoning is a massive massive red flag. So pretty much I'm confident that NM, Mderg and TheCow are town, decently confident that Kmatt and Shape are also town. Don't really have a read on Glowing, Fidei or Onegu and want to lynch inside Scott/Noon/Giyga in descending order of preference. | ||
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On December 30 2015 14:57 GlowingBear wrote:The fact that I believe kush is likely to be town and that scott is impossible to know right now makes me want to lynch you very hard. Explain both stances here for me particularly the "Scott is impossible to know" one since I don't think there's any way you can really believe that if you've read the thread properly. | ||
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I won't be around for deadline as well, I'm not in the same country as the rest of you and I'll be on my way to work when it hits, heading to bed in about a hour, will check this before then but likely leaving my vote on Scott, really would like if people could reread him as well as my qualms with him and join me on him. Do agree with Snape that Scotts Giygas vote is even worse considering he's done the same thing he's voting Giyga for and the fact that it looks like trying to just jump on others scum leans on Giyga. | ||
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I like the detail and analysis in Fideis big read post here, there are several reads I disagree with but I can follow most of his reasoning, I still think Mderg should qualify to be in his town section given what he stated and don't really like the placement/stance on Scott. I hate not lynching someone because it doesn't give enough "information", that's one of my biggest pet peeves, you aim for scum, putting rules on what type of scum you're willing to lynch incentives lurking for scum. Going to continue catching up. | ||
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Didn't like Noons reaction to Onegu at all in this post, felt like pandering to Onegu when it looks like the policy lynch won't occur - the fact his vote is still on him while stating all of this is even worse. | ||
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On December 31 2015 03:40 GlowingBear wrote: I'm lynching Kmatt today and no one else. And I'm not voting Kmatt, I can somewhat understand your point on him but I've also seen newbtown players weaken/pursue a read less as town because they're told by others that they don't agree with the read and that's what's happened here. His reasoning behind suspecting you DOES make sense. | ||
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On December 31 2015 03:35 GlowingBear wrote:Scott is null. I've made a promise to keep him alive for more than one day because he usually plays like this. Actually, those incongruences you've guys found in Scott's post could come from town Scott based on his previous games (I think Battle of the Drams is the one I'm thinking about, but I'm not really sure the name of the game I remember him playing like this as town) Fair warning but if we lynch Scott today and he flips mafia like I expect he will then I'll probably voting you for this, the sheer amount you've now defended him and made it less likely that he gets lynched is baffling given your read on him. It makes no sense as a stance whatsoever and really does ignore what the issues with him really are, sure he his lesser activity may fall under his meta, him town reading Noon for the reasoning he does doesn't though and him calling me town due to being a "newb" similarly doesn't make sense. | ||
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On December 31 2015 03:54 GlowingBear wrote:Nobody disagreed with his read on Giygas. If he wants to lynch someone other than scott he lynches his main scum read 100% of the times especially if his scum read is the second wagon. It makes no sense to suddenly deciding to lynch me. 0 sense. You've got it the wrong way round. The read that people were disagreeing with him about was on you, not Giyga. You can notice the progression behind his reads in the below posts, him not wanting to lynch someone that'll give us minimal information would also apply to Giyga (It's a bad way to vote, that's something I'll agree with you on but it's not an unfathomable one from a newer player as town). On December 30 2015 09:25 Kmatt wrote:Well you're right that I haven't gone hard on anyone yet. While I still believe there's not enough evidence to properly decide now, reading through the filters will probably give me enough to make my choice come tomorrow. For now I'm probably gonna vote GB or Giygas. On December 30 2015 09:43 Kmatt wrote: I don't think much has changed. To be honest, I did have a scumlean on GB, but I don't want to assert that since I wasn't confident enough in my own "evidence". Looking back over it I think I'm comfortable dropping my scumlean on GB. With that said: ##vote GiygaS On December 30 2015 23:30 Kmatt wrote: Pretty much the same sentiment as above for me. I leave for work in 30 mins and don't get out until 5pm Burger-time (vote o'clock). However I am going to assert that GB is the more dangerous target. Sure, Scott was acting "scummy" by not really participating, but he hasn't really derailed the thread or caused trouble (yet). GB on the other hand is an active poster who has been calling quite a few scumreads (myself included) with virtually no justification, as well as some very empty townreads. The fishy interactions with Noon are enough to seal the deal for me. More importantly, if we were to lynch Scott, we would learn almost nothing. Even if he came up scum, his posts have been so hollow that we wouldn't have a solid lead to go from there. Unless GB can clean up his act in time, there's a lot more to be gained out of him. ##unvote GiygaS ##vote GlowingBear | ||
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On December 31 2015 03:56 GlowingBear wrote:I would never hard align myself with scott this way if I was Mafia with him. Literally never. But do as you please, as long as you read my scum reads and lynxh them after I flip Then if you're town stop being nonsensical, you've got absolutely no reason to town read Scott whatsoever, you acknowledge as much, you've got town reads on lots of other players thereby by process of elimination alone he's a decent chance of being mafia for you so you taking the stance "I've promised myself not to lynch him" doesn't add up. Again you're disregarding his actions as "null" for a meta reason that doesn't flow, what about his meta makes his really weak and incorrect reasoning for town reading Noon and myself null? What about his meta means that where he does focus doesn't look like scumhunting but rather quoting random sections? | ||
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On December 31 2015 04:08 GlowingBear wrote:Irish, he even said he dropped his scum read on me. It doesn't make any sense to say to NOT vote scott to vote ME (I wasnt a wagon) when his main scum read was the second wagon!!! He believes that we shouldn't be lynching players with little content as it doesn't provide us with much information to work with regardless of their flip, do I agree that's a good way to play? No, absolutely not. Do I think that's impossible heck even unlikely to come from newer town? No. If he believes that low content lynches are bad then him ruling both Scott and Giyga makes sense which only leaves you as the scum read he's had throughout the game that's been active so I really don't see this big scum tell you're making out his vote on you to be. | ||
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And again cookies for those who join me on Scott. On December 31 2015 04:10 GlowingBear wrote:I've wrote it before. I've played with scott before and he is capable of doing that as town. I'm not lynching him over people I'm fairly confident are scum, simple as that. /Headdesk. | ||
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Worst part is as frustrating and idiotic as your interaction with me here it's actually making me lean town on you. Oh and before I go for lols I'll take an early punt at the scum team, Scott-Noon-Fidei. | ||
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On December 31 2015 04:21 GlowingBear wrote: Kush and fidei are probably town It should be clear that Kmatt is Mafia right now So you think Onegu is town? Mderg also? Yes, I've got a town read on Onegus reaction towards Fideis post, it's not a particularly strong one but not even remotely interested in lynching there. I do have a very strong town read on Mderg, his reads and thoughts mirror mine when catching up quite often, I can understand his reasoning behind almost all of his reads, I'd almost bet the entire game on him being town. Want to make an agreement Glowing? We lynch Scott today, if he's mafia like I expect you let me tell you where to put your vote tomorrow, if he flips town you can tell me where to place mine. | ||
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On December 31 2015 04:28 GlowingBear wrote: We can do the opposite instead. You lynch Kmatt, if he flips town my vote is yours to use No thanks, I've actually got a town read on Kmatt whereas you don't have a town read on Scott, there's also the fact that Scotts the leading wagon at the moment. And with that I'm out, I'll try and check this on my phone on my way to work if I get a chance. Vote Scott 4 Cookies. | ||
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Really only happy with a Scott or Noon Lynch today. | ||
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Going to try and use the next 48 hours to reread and reasses. | ||
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