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Irishbound
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Irishbound
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On December 17 2015 23:39 kitaman27 wrote:As a side note, the game would likely start quicker if you filled a newbie slot  Fair point. /In as Newbie. | ||
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Irishbound
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Know it's a weak thing but I'm leaning town on Noonian already, think scum would be less likely to be so brazen to make #62 and like his instant "That's anti-town to do" reaction towards Glowings statement. I understand that we're meant to be voting in a separate thread to make it easier for the mod to tally up votes but I'd appreciate if everyone also posted here with their vote -- it'll make following the game and reading into context behind votes much easier than attempting to line up timestamps of when people voted in comparison to their thoughts/posts in here. @Glowing - Who is this Kush you're voting? | ||
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Irishbound
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On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong. Ah, that makes sense. Is there any one else here that is likely to referred to as a different name? And I'm guessing your vote on Noon is a jokeish vote in that case? Do you have any scum-reads at the moment? There's several peoples openings that I haven't particularly liked (Mderg, Scott & Giyga) but aren't confident if my issue with them is playstyle or alignment based yet. | ||
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Irishbound
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On December 29 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:What exactly you didn't like about their openings? I didn't like Scott bandwagoning with Nonians comment in #167, it's also a very easy way for scum to enter into the thread, quite a similar concern with Mdergs #168 although I have liked him prodding you about your town read on me. Do understand that Giygas accusation on Noonian in #172 was a joke but I find it's the type of statement that scum awkwardly make more often than town do, either way I think I'll be able to get a stronger read on the three of them as the day progresses. | ||
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Irishbound
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On December 29 2015 08:53 GiygaS wrote: Irish how much have you played forum mafia outside TL? Upwards of 50 forum mafia games though I'm mostly used to day phases that last 2 weeks and not 48 hours. My turn to ask a question? How exactly does that influence your read on me and how would it have differed if I was much less experienced? | ||
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Irishbound
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@Glowing - I don't make anything of NM's opening in #194 at all, is your "I like this opening" in an alignment indicative sense or just find it enjoyable? Kind of hard to tell from what you wrote. @NM - I am well aware of the definition of "Anti-Town", what I liked was the speed of Noons reaction towards Glowings comment (The difference between it being posted and his response was 1 minute) which fits more with a natural townie reaction towards the comment being "That's going to hurt us" one and while I don't doubt that it's fake-able for mafia to do that I just find that mafia are more likely to think through the post or it's consequences more there. Again it's not a strong town read but out of everything that had occurred at the time it's only town read I had. | ||
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Irishbound
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On December 29 2015 09:33 NocturneMage wrote:Looking at Scott's comment, he's just saying I agree. Does he try to make anything of it? If he was pushing an agenda, I'd argue he was mafia of it. The tone behind that comment is light enough to me (wording: haven't you learned Bear, although this is also me knowing that Scott will call him MafiaBear or Bear or whatever) on a comment I felt could have come from anywhere. I see what you mean by possibly an easy entrance though and how that point can make sense from your perspective. The other thing I don't understand is why you are equating the joke statement as awkward. Is this based on some of the places where you've placed mafia from or....? His agreement with Nooni (and it being the only thing inside his post) means that there's even more focus on Glowing due to it, that's something that has scum motivation behind it since it a) Allows him to enter the thread in a fairly easy manner and not make a lot of ripples and b) Allows him to help dictate where early focus is, that's my concern with his post there. As for Giyga joke being awkward that's actually ridiculously hard to put into words but I'll give it a go; I think some players will make joke type posts regardless of alignment so them making a joke alone doesn't mean a whole lot but I do find that the phrasing or context of the joke occasionally is different as mafia, there's a more forced element behind the posting? Giygas post came across that way to me and while it's not a strong enough thing that I'd lynch or vote on alone it does mean that I will focus slightly more on combing over his future posts. | ||
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Irishbound
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On December 29 2015 10:13 NocturneMage wrote:Did you make anything out of GigyaS third post or not really? If you're referring to this post of his then not really. I did like him admitting that his initial post was somewhat forced in his following posts but I really want to see more stances from him, he's not really taken many thus far which is problematic. On December 29 2015 10:47 scott31337 wrote:Okay, I'm extremely doubtful a newb mafia makes the post above with the information available. Maybe GB was right  You get a townlean for this Irish. You're going to have to explain this for me in more detail because I find it really hard to believe you've read this thread properly and kept the assumption that I'm a "newb", there's even a discussion that's gone down with how many games I've played (And it was on page 10, the page you're claiming to have finished) so your reasoning for town reading me here comes across as very fake. | ||
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Irishbound
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I'm fairly confident that Nocturnal is town, the manner that he's scumhunting and looking into posts / questioning and prodding people comes across very natural, I can follow his thought process very well. Still think Glowing and Noon are probably town though admittedly those are weaker reads in comparison. Really don't like any of Scotts catch up at all and actually think there's a very decent chance he's mafia here, went into it above but there's no way he can consider me as a newb or town read me on the basis of inexperience if he's read the thread properly which suggests either a) He skimmed the thread when catching up (Which mafia are generally more likely to do) or b) He did notice when reading that I was experienced elsewhere and didn't bother to update his post with it (Which again is something that makes sense for mafia to do, town reevaluate thoughts on new information, mafia just type a post to seem like they're doing something). Either way I'm happy to drop a vote down now: Vote: Scott | ||
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Irishbound
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@Fidei - I'm not really sure how you were "meta town reading Scott" when a) You haven't seen him scum play before and b) You've stated that his play in his town games wasn't the same in all three. Can you explain that to me a little more please? I'm strongly against policy lynching, it's far better to aim to hit scum (And I strongly disagree with the "It's so hard to hit scum D1, I've hit scum D1 in close to 60% of games) and don't like that Noons first content post after stating he was catching up was requesting a policy lynch here especially since I'd consider Onegu a really really easy push for scum when it sounds like he 'trolls/puts little effort in', the fact there's really no stance on anyone or attempt to scumhunt and is putting it of to D2 is something I don't like at all, especially from an experienced player, my town read there is completely dead. Really liked Mdergs reaction towards Noon pushing the PL in this post, in fact all of his posts from onward when looking at them in ISO match my thoughts very closely and the "I think these 2 people are avoiding each other" in this post is a very strong scum tell, it's common for townies to have crack pot scum-team theories early on and attempt to notice how interactions affect each other whereas it's not something that scum think of naturally or consider faking often. On December 30 2015 03:02 GlowingBear wrote:Are you sure you're not Foolishness? ??? | ||
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Irishbound
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On December 30 2015 11:09 Irishbound wrote: and the "I think these 2 people are avoiding each other" in this post is a very strong scum tell, it's common for townies to have crack pot scum-team theories early on and attempt to notice how interactions affect each other whereas it's not something that scum think of naturally or consider faking often. Italicized should be very strong town tell. | ||
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Irishbound
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a) In the pregame he stated that he was looking forward to playing with Onegu here, it's not impossible that it was him being sarcastic but it does make his attempt to policy lynch Onegu based on nearly nothing inside this thread look very scum motivated. b) I find the timing of his push on Onegu (When there was attention on Scott) as well as his shotty reasoning behind town reading Scott in this post to mean that he makes a lot of sense as scum with Scott. c) Strongly dislike the fact that he's not attempted to scumhunt at all throughout this day phase and is attempting to state he won't do so until D2, that makes sense coming from scum thinking he's able to coast a day phase without any risk himself. Alright I'll continue catching up an then I'll post my reads line. | ||
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Irishbound
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I still find Kmatts explanationn behind his initial case on Glowing inside this post to make a lot of sense despite the fact that I disagree with it's conclusion and his stance that "He's not sure an experienced mafia would make a mistake that a scrub could catch" in this post comes across as a genuine consideration, also liked his response towards Cows scum read on him here, leaning town on him but it's not as strong as some of my other town reads. | ||
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Irishbound
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Irishbound
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@NM - I consider policy lynching and policy lynching while not scumhunting and intentionally stating you won't really participate until D2 entirely different things, the first is annoying but may be null for some players, the second is a scum tell since they're attempting to use something like that to minimise the amount of game related posting they're doing. | ||
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