EPTTL Mafia LXXIII: The Nutcracker - Page 5
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On December 16 2015 07:20 Rels wrote: How is it scum indicative when I thought deadline was in 10 minutes and nobody wanted to vote Damdred ? I was on the fence about Damdred. I also thought we had 10 minutes too because it said it on the deadline. Once he came back i wonder if i should. To me Kush makes more sense thou | ||
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##Vote:Kush Voting kush due to lurking and guess what hes lurking. Meta read though, just best right now for me. | ||
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Anyways I see GB got lynched? I mean this is how i saw the EoD lynchs b/4 i left: "ok let me run threw the list" GB: Doesn't seem scum, worried over mafia tipping the scale too easily. TT: Seem more like his townself. Also wanted to see his D2. Damred: Meh. I guess he could be, but there isn't anything pushing me to lynch him. Kush: No changed for the most part. Still the same as i felt b/4. So thats my reasoning behind that vote. After the filp and reading Kush's response, I can understand his reasoning. He did die D1 in dark as the Boxer. Still need to think fully about my position on him. Do it in the shower, then come back and reread what i missed of EoD. | ||
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I decided to Look at GB lynch. I was thinking about it while I was in bed. GB lynch was probably the worse choice in retrospective. If we Run threw the list of the outcomes of a flip per person this is what it comes down too: GB: If town, only the voting process really matters in finding scum such as who voted and why (get to this latter).If scum: Well scum, I mean all we would gather is that I have a better town chance and maybe the chance of Kush flipping mafia? Damred: If town, LS is prob. town. Vixax lynch becomes more of a option. If scum: LS is prob. scum. Vixax lynch becomes less big. TT: If town, Rik could have a good chance of flipping mafia due to him early on wanting to tunnel and lynch TT. Giyga Khan could also be mafia. If scum, Rik and Giyga khan (at least Giyga khan) becomes more townie. Kush: if town, RIk is town. Only one who really defended him hard and early on read him as town. If scum, Rik becomes a 65/35 chance as mafia. (explain lower) I will now go into detail about the people who lynched GB: (spoiled for my amusement) Kush + Show Spoiler + His claims: "inactiveness/Joking around/Being lazy". Which funny enough fits Kush as well. Not really a whole lot for me to go off of him through. Still has a one page filter, and only post during voting was telling me which a lynch on him is a bad idea. Does no one else wonder why he just comes back, sees himself getting lynched. And mostly comments on why I am lynching him? On December 16 2015 07:33 kushm4sta wrote: sorry guys i had a lunch meeting. I won't be able to catch up on reading tonight. Pretty dumb to lynch me due to a lurker meta though. Whether I am a lurker or not has nothign to do with alignment and everything to do with how busy I am. Dark tournament I was also lynched d1 for low activity and I was also town. So keep that in mind. I mean other people voted him because they either claim of the low activity or because he was useless (pretty sure GB said the latter.) Does it not bother anyone? maybe not because this might just be normal Kush. Rikoty: (warning, conspiracy shapelog theory) + Show Spoiler + His reasons: underwhelming, to piss him off/pressure vote (also because he was worse then him? might be pointed to TT and i read wrong). However, said during vote his was going to switch to TT. On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote: too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me. shape is town kush is probably town not interested in lynching koshi not interested in lynching damdred not interested in lynching rels no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment tt is probably mafia gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit every1 else is nai or unremarkable ##vote: glowingbear i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia. On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote: if you want me to write the why tt is potentially mafia book it would basically be: he tr shape for good reason (i thought) at proper time and when it was popular, then backed out of it for a bad/no reason when it was popular, was awkward, then has basically snap conceded/fucked off in the face of me wanting to lynch him. Lol what? "snap and conceded/fucked off in the face of me wanting to lynch him." On December 14 2015 16:59 Tictock wrote: Ok gave this game a quick reread now that I'm home and not being distracted or as constrained on time. Damdred is prob town for the Miller thing, plus he made a good point about meta-ing Koshi (or rather not rushing to meta Koshi). Easy start to a townpile. Gunna retract my town read on Shape from earlier, though I think I just need to see more out of him. Scummy Stuff: Jumped on the LS vote real fast, applying meta based on one game, kinda all over the place with reads Towny Stuff: Throwing out lots of thoughts/ideas, engaged, not concerned with how his suggestions make him look @Shape, have you read other games or just Haunted Mansion? Also welcome to the forums! On December 15 2015 02:48 Tictock wrote: I've got shit for time today but will try to keep up with reading if I can. Rit you might be right about Shape, I just saw those couple of things when rereding and wanted to take a step back. It sounds like you did pick up on the same thing in that post I liked though, I think Damdred saw it too. @Rels, I was thinking of checking LS's past games if his activity dropped off here after that open. He's stayed pretty active though so didn't seem worth the time. Might like Kush a little more since his open. On December 16 2015 01:02 Tictock wrote: Ok somewhat caught up now, but I wont be able to do much posting till I'm off work in like 3 hours. Rit is giving me seriuse Dejavu, like This push on me is so similar to GB's push on me last game it's scary. The problem I have with Rit's push is that he is basing it off an unwavering townread on Shape and has in turn formed an unwavering scumread on me. What especially bugs me is the fact that both GB last game and Rit this game throw out is " I like to be right" as if that furthers your read at all. Now I realize my posting has been lackluster due to my lack of time and I don't expect anyone to have a townread on me or anything, but being tunneled for posting my thoughts on a null read is pretty lame. @ Rit, I totally disagree with the " One moment seals your alignment" nonsense you are spouting. Maybe you think that way, but I like to take a step back from my reads and reevaluate from time to time. I still need to get better at it because I tend to get tunneled on shit like GB last game. Sorry i don't really see the OMGUS/conceded/fucked off in the face of me wanting to lynch him. I seeing TT being a bit paranoid about me (also asked Giyga khan about me) and eventurlly comes to the same agreement. But he is still uncomfortable about me due to Rik's unwavering Townread. So i really don't get were Rik is coming from. On December 16 2015 07:25 ritoky wrote: i mean i haven't even voted on you, i am voting on gb; so it is clear what my alternative is. and i am not overstating my towniness, i claimed vt. basically why i keep talking about you is i am trying to figure out if you're just mafia or you're going to be "that guy" for me this game. "that guy" refers to the person in the game who i have a burning desire to lynch every phase and must forcibly talk myself out of lynching every phase. this is a very important distinction that could impede my progress of solving this game. outside of you who i want to lynch and gb who i am voting on cuz i expect better from, i have no particular desire of lynch targets. i don't want to lynch koochi, shape, damdred, kush, rels; everyone else i won't be hurt if they disappear. Rik's then stays on TT trails. But then suddenly TT is his alliterative lynch? With all of his posts B/4 about TT and how he wanted to lynch. With all the things about TT he chooses GB? Because he wanted better from him? After TT questions his change of heart. Riks responds it because he didn't deliver. But yet, GB called me mafia at #585. Rik, who of all people, wanted to see GB perform does not question GB Why i am mafia. Only I do. Granted, GB didn't post back to me asking until 70ish posts later. In the case Rit is scum. I can see the set up for a Mislynch on GB/TT. Picks a person/s who won't be on much (and most people forgot weren't going to be on.)And then pressure votes on, Which btw Kush already have done for GB. (Possibity of a scum/mason team of Rit/Kush? I know people said he wouldn't hard defend a teammate. But hes been defending Kush. Kush has been mainly null too townish for the most part on people's radar. Also lack of content +Kush "normal" lack of content = easy defend.) On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote: if you want me to write the why is kush potentially mafia book it would basically be: he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently and probably is a result of extra information. i currently have a lack of desire to go down that rabbit hole cuz he called me town and too right thus scum isn't usually a good day 1 lunchable. also he did a game winning impression of me that i loved. I mean the post about kush mafianess doesn't really tell much. basically paints a picture that kush isn't mafia. Posting at the proper time and with extra information hasn't been showing. It's like Rik is saying Kush is mafia for these reason and isn't following them. Like he trying to hide a scum/mason team underneath it. My only problem with Rit/Kush scum team is that he couldn't predicted Damred shenanigans. Unless Rit/Kush/Damred is a mafia team, which would be very far fetch considering the fact Damred was voting Kush. This is why i am leaning more to a mason team then a scum team. Who knows maybe Rit/Kush is a scum team, or i might just be a insane person with tinfoil on my head. Also Rik did get mad at shenanigans, which would save his teammate. wow did i just disbunk my own theory? Oh well 2 hours wasted. Might as well leave this. Koshi+ Show Spoiler + Reason: Gb is a liability. I really do not have a problem right now about this. His vote was like mine, Idk who to vote which one do i think is best. Vivax+ Show Spoiler + Reason: Koshi did it. Vivax is giving me a scum feeling. He's sheeping, He posted his thoughts about Onegu in the form of a +1 off of my initial read and about LS and damred reading each other. Then just says i follow Koshi. Weird tbh, I would think he be more active and more concern about who he votes. Could of been around voting too. I also agree with the Vivax shenanigans. Damred+ Show Spoiler + Shenagains makes me lean town on him. It's not something i would do as mafia. If he was mafia, Kush and Gb would be innocent. Why bring atteation unto himself? He would be better off mislynching Kush and pushing GB. Makes me want to say town I would say the person with the most chance out of the 5 to flip mafia is Kush. Might be tunneling him and trying to find a reason to lynch him through. Vivax is a great choice too. And this is My current Town list going into Day 2: Town: Koshi Damread Town leans: LS Tictock Surkit/Onegu Rels Null: Tubesock -Nothing from his filter makes me jump town Scum Leans GiygaS Khan - Missed Voting, Can see where he is coming from with shengaings. Want to see more about him. Rikoty - Debunked my theory on him. Put him here because of that weird town read denfense for me. Might be town though Scum: Kush -I just have a gut hard feeling that hes mafia. Vivax- Lack of content, brainless sheeping, half a page of filter. Also i am so happy I am everywhere. So many people are talking about me. Makes me happy. Can't wait till Surengo (sounds like that cheese company surego) push and gut feeling which is wrong. | ||
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On December 17 2015 02:12 kushm4sta wrote: Shape why am I mafia if I act like this every game? I'm null imo. Gigas seems like a good person to filter at this time. Anyone else? Gut feeling tbh. Idk i might just tunneling you tbh because of your lack of content. Plus your dark tourment filter looks more helpful then this games (just a observation).GigyaS Khan's filter to me is meh. His scum read on me means nothing since everyone is everywhere about me (I did this on purpose... I think). TT claim lines up with Rit's claim. @ TT, I not sure if kush/GigyaS/Rit could be a team. Read my new theory and see. Might just be under/over thinking or missing something. (also I only got 1-2 more posts) | ||
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On December 17 2015 02:57 kushm4sta wrote: His scumreads look believable and so does his case on rels. Not saying they are right or wrong but they look like townie reads On December 16 2015 02:41 GiygaS wrote: Why do people think my read on rels was the only thing I got out of the filter/thread readover? If you look up you'll see I also had scum reads on tt and shape. Like all these people saying I didn't fulfill promises or came out of reading filters and thread again with 1 awful scum read are just wrong. Clearly I made a mistake reading LS's filter going over it again (I honestly don't know where), so going to unvote rels and put my vote back on tt. ##unvote ##vote tictock I feel like this is also look townish. I can see a frustrated town from this post, who voted TT to maybe to fit in or seem relvent? Can still understand why he is mafia, but this is why he is my weakest scum lean. | ||
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About Gb list. When i typed "oh yeah Gb  " I didn't mean to put in the the list at last. And i also forgot about vivax at the time. Gut read on kush is also based off his Dark tournament feed. comparing that game to this, he was more lurker and less helpful. Everything else makes sense, I am contradictioning bastard . (also this is my last post for the day because I have ran out.) I like this post from Giyga Khan too. Prob. will try to do better tomorrow. | ||
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@Rik: How does Damred play make any sense as Mafia? Lets say GB and Kush is town.Why bring attention to himself and try to vote off Vivax? There is the a little sense If kush is mafia, as the sexagenarians(missed spelled it, that pop up, ran with it) would of brought attention to both of them. I mean Rels has already ask for a vig to shoot Kush just to see the flip. Why risk having the attention/exposing himself if Kush doesn't even have the chance of making it to the next day? I feel it's a more Town to nullish kinda move then a mafia move. @GiygaKhan, I feel a lot more town from you based off your earlier post. But, thinking about it, you picked the most lynchable person to make a case on. But I see some reasoning about your points about my contradicting behavior. I also saw you compared me to Sanders which is the real reason why i included you in my post. Sanders checklist: Contradicting behavior: Check Radical Conspirator: Check Brain fogged: Check Democrat: Meh, I believe in independent so half checkish Want College to be free: I remember when i was in college for almost 10 years "how do i pay this off", Check Shapeanders Reporting in for office! | ||
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On December 17 2015 06:31 ritoky wrote: people made big posts about me. i didn't read them. i claimed vt that's all you need to know my alignment. I claiming Mouse Queen, because i wanted to be mafia. And that's all you need to know about my alignment. Srsy, How does claiming a role, espically Vt, going to make me belive your acutrrly Vt. I shouldn't need you to tell me your role. You should be able to make reads, do stuff, and come off as VT. Not say i am Vt (which he did in the beginning of the game) On December 17 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote: anywayz gonna go take my kid to see her first snow, probably not back before deadline, won't be surprised if i get shot. Not game related, But I think Ritoky needs Best father reward. Like this guy has suffer with a baby and is now taking his kids to see their first snow. #Ritokybestfather | ||
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Damm I want to make a drawing now showing GiygaS Khan as Khan, Vobby and Koshius, and me, Shapanders. Might kickstart this. | ||
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On December 17 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote: Which train? The SKT1 Worlds Train?+ Show Spoiler + I sorry I just loved the thing Montecristo did at worlds 2013 lol Well played sir, That Korean Hype Train was cool. God 1 Million dollar prize pool for a e-sport. never made me more happier to be a gamer in my life! + Show Spoiler + Sad it wasn't Sc2 through, btw i got your Stim meme from b/4 And the Train i Meant was If Ritoky is mafia because of hard town read on me blah blah blah (im too tired to explain it) which has become something big. Like it was my second and third conspiracy theory. ( it was spoilered because if not I would be at 7 page filters with 2nd and third theory) | ||
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