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Hello, my name is damdred. Today I have effectively on ny back to back 18 hour days have cone to several conclusions the thread will be interested in and I'll be willing to answer questions.
Currently I have only focused on hard town reads/or attempting to add to some form of town circle. Here is where I am at in regards to that.
Town:
Damdred
LS
Koshi
Shade
Feels like town spirit
Kush
Rels
So I have 5 people I want to reread and look into current the tube, Tt (previous town lean on), vivax, gig and one other I can't remember who but I'll read them to.
Now any questions before I filter dive my fab five (which btw koshi worries me the most in town circle but I'm not quite to paranoid land yet) and I'm pretty sure vivax is the best vote today.
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hahaha.
Oh boy.
Yeah I am dieing tonight.
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This is ridiculous. Obvious mafia are now buddying.
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On December 16 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
He's buddying obvious town when usually he would be nit picking everyone and super paranoid of *obvious town*.
he's also trying to use more bullshit reasons and instead of trying to push what he thinks he is taking the path of least resistance.
ie instead of pushing me jumped on kush.
idk if kush is scum granted but its suspicious of rels.
@tubesock
i actually misunderstood this. i thought he saying rels is scummy because he is super paranoid of obvious town. Instead he is saying he's scummy because he's not super paranoid of obvious town. The meaning isn't exactly opposite because damdred is implying the town isn't obvious.
So I don't like the case as much.
Also your point about people selling their cases. I would say selling your case is actually more townie. Scum usually don't care if people vote with them. They just want to look town. Town really believes in something and want everyone else to believe it too.
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Damred have you read the KubRels vs Koshius and Shapanders case with refree guess star TS and Kush-lush-fush yet?
If not your way behind kiddo
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On December 18 2015 08:37 Shapelog wrote:
Damred have you read the KubRels vs Koshius and Shapanders case with refree guess star TS and Kush-lush-fush yet?
If not your way behind kiddo
Yes Rels looked like his town self.
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On December 18 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2015 08:37 Shapelog wrote:
Damred have you read the KubRels vs Koshius and Shapanders case with refree guess star TS and Kush-lush-fush yet?
If not your way behind kiddo Yes Rels looked like his town self.
Even his reaction? Other said he doesn't get that mad when stuff like that happens, idk personally though.
I would also ask Why, any particular reasoning? How did it make you feel blah blah blah. But you might cover all that in you conclusion once you dive. But then again TS or Koshius will prob. jump on you before then. So answer this part of the post at your own risk.
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In fact, take off the meta cap when you explain it. Do not use "this guy does this and this and I know when he is scum because...." Just go off of what you see in this game.
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Let me make it clear why I think Rels is town from that exchange specifically.
1) Mafia as a whole have a great sense of wanting to keep good apperances in thread. This comes from muddying pushing somewhat easy lunches avoiding hot topics. Most of this comes from not wanting to disturb waters and draw attention.
That being said, as scum Rels has a great tendency to play towards that regard. If you look at sotw 2 where Rels was scum you will see how Rels is involved in the thread but loves to get closer to highly regarded town players.he did this with rayn, he's clearly today at least not really interested in that.
2) As town Rels is sorta a rayn lite, he will bmp you again and again especially if he thinks you age wrong or scum reading him incorrectly.
3) he seems to not really being playing to survive but seems to be trying to find scum even if he does piggy back on others ideas. Which news flash isn't scum or town oriented.
Plus sick move analysis seems to suggest Rels is town meh.
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I was writing that before you said no meta but some of it still apply.
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And also factor in the fact he dodge the oblivs. elephant in the room question. Instead of defending himself against following the path of easy targets. He tries to defend with "I was reading town on LS at the time." Why isn't he ansewing the question if he is town?
I am just asking you to look at it thorough my eyes. As someone who never has played with him, and when making the case, never looking at his past games till after my big post on him.
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^ was writing this before you posted btw
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There is no fucking way you are all town. Impossible.
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Nha. I am 100% sure both Damdred and Rels are mafia.
Good news show into lynch afk town Vivax is the mafia agenda.
Do not get tricked.
I would be very surprised kush isn't the one mafia with them. Something fucking suspicious happened on D1. I am sure it was Damdred saving Kush because the other mafia guy couldn't.
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On December 18 2015 08:53 Damdred wrote:
Let me make it clear why I think Rels is town from that exchange specifically.
1) Mafia as a whole have a great sense of wanting to keep good apperances in thread. This comes from muddying pushing somewhat easy lunches avoiding hot topics. Most of this comes from not wanting to disturb waters and draw attention.
That being said, as scum Rels has a great tendency to play towards that regard. If you look at sotw 2 where Rels was scum you will see how Rels is involved in the thread but loves to get closer to highly regarded town players.he did this with rayn, he's clearly today at least not really interested in that.
2) As town Rels is sorta a rayn lite, he will bmp you again and again especially if he thinks you age wrong or scum reading him incorrectly.
3) he seems to not really being playing to survive but seems to be trying to find scum even if he does piggy back on others ideas. Which news flash isn't scum or town oriented.
Plus sick move analysis seems to suggest Rels is town meh.
1. So your saying "typically, mafia is more quiet then town and meh pushs easy targets." Ok, that makes sense. But how does that factor in. Can't Anyone decide not to follow the mafia's golden rule? How does that really make sense? just because 75% of people follow a logic makes the 25% all the more deadly. Idk, maybe it is because when i gotten mafia/scum in RL mafia games i play exactly the same.
And i know i said no meta. But if you want to look at this with meta in mind. Didn't 2 or 3 people say Rels plays almost Exactly the same with only minor differences? And doesn't the meta point you bring up contradicts the notation of if he is mafia, he would be quiet. How does one move up the totem pole for townies if he doesn't bring attention to himself?
2. Do not know who is Rayn lite, but anyways. This one is ok. But i see this one leaning more on NAI then mafia or town. Town would do it for what you said and mafia would make take little bites to try to get easy targets lynch
3. Contradicts with first statement about how mafia trying making the illusion about how they are contribution to the thread. by saying "he is finding scum reads" but saying "Mafia would make good appearances from time to time." heck his votes are pop in pop out kind of things. And piggying backing in not mafia right? Even if all his votes is almost at the perfect time when most of the town is sus. of the person he votes?
Still waiting for bomb  ........
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Why are you so sure koshi....
This is omgus but is koshi possible mafia? I really don't want to read his filter,
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On December 18 2015 09:20 kushm4sta wrote:
Why are you so sure koshi....
This is omgus but is koshi possible mafia? I really don't want to read his filter,
Koshi is never mafia unless the hosts gave him the wrong pm lol.
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##unvote
##vote Damdred
Him first.
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I would rather kill rels before Damdred honestly. I think you gone full paranoia mode Koshi lol.........
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On December 18 2015 09:24 LightningStrike wrote:
I would rather kill rels before Damdred honestly. I think you gone full paranoia mode Koshi lol.........
No. Damdred saved Kush for no town reason. Every and any town would pick between Kush or GB. Damdred picked Vivax.
There is no way.
And then Kush and Damdred are inventing these ridiculous reasons why Rels is town.... It's insane.
There is no way there is not 2 mafia in Kush/Damdred/Rels.
THERE IS ALWAYS 2 mafia in there. ALWAYS.
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