EPTAlso I apologize for my reaction to Koshi's post I totally misread who was posting.
I'm not sure I should explain exactly what I was thinking tonight either...
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Also I apologize for my reaction to Koshi's post I totally misread who was posting. I'm not sure I should explain exactly what I was thinking tonight either... | ||
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On December 16 2015 08:08 Damdred wrote: Tt why did you apologize to me for hammering GB especially when your vote was no where anyway? Not for hammering GB, because I would have switched to Vivax if there was enough people around. | ||
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On December 16 2015 08:07 LightningStrike wrote: What you mean what happened? You hammered GB............ I said WELL that happened... Rit is right though my vote wouldn't have mattered if not for Damdred's switch to Vivax. The idea was solid... the execution was bad. | ||
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On December 16 2015 08:12 Damdred wrote: My shenanigan doesn't hammer GB kush is still leading the vote when I switch. I'll take the blame but if myself, koshi, tt, GB switch vivax has a real shot at being lynched Nah you can blame me, I was prob voting GB anyways but that last post of his sealed the deal for me. | ||
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At least you got a nice job now? Maybe we'll learn this is your new town meta | ||
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Will be around later tonight, but FYI tomorrow is another Shit day for me. I open one job, work my new job in the afternoon, then go back and close for my first job.... so F my life. After that I should be back to a normal schedule. | ||
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On December 16 2015 08:20 ritoky wrote: if you wanna claim mason with LS then just do it already damdred. Ok yea this explains my tinfoil about Damdred/LS I'd forgotten until after EoD that Masons (or Harlequin and Columbine) were a thing in this game, wasn't going to give scum ideas about roles... but if Rit's gunna come out and say it... | ||
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Town Shapelog Damdred Koshi Probably Town Sukrit Rels LightningStrike kushm4sta Null/Unsure Tubesock ritoky Scum Vivax GiygaS | ||
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I also hope Kush is able to give this game some effort now that he's got some time. Tube is totally null to me, I almost forgot he was in this game. I think Rit should be my first reread but my initial feeling is that his EoD lacked the bluster of some of his earlier posts and I think he's overreacting to Damdred's shenanigans, especially when GB was one of his scumreads. | ||
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On December 16 2015 10:24 Shapelog wrote: Why i'm i talking to myself? I pulling a Koshi here. Heck Not even a Koshi, More like a lazy koshi. Why i'm I even concerned if I am talking to myself. Maybe it's because i have like 12 posts left (11ish after this.) Idk. Should do what i said I do and finish Notes and crap. You reminded me to check my filter and realized I'm a bit closer to 5 pgs than I thought I would be. I still feel the need to question why you bothered to hit post on this one after realizing you were so close to your limit. but now I feel like i need to make better use of my own post... Looked over Tubes filter and I get the sense he's read through the game in a rush or skimmed it and tried to push out what thoughts he could. Since he was apparently traveling at the start of the game I think I'll give him more time to go over things. Vivax looks really weird, he drops in, sheeps Koshi, but pokes at LS about something that he probably never read? Doesn't make sense. I'm looking at Onegu's filter and I'm amazed he doesn't post like this more. It's almost like reading another person even though I see hints of his usual trolling and whatnot. I can honestly see why he would feel the need to make a smurf just to avoid getting lynched for meta. This post feels off to me though. On December 16 2015 07:37 Sukrit wrote: Would prefer the TT lynch. To be honest if he flips scum I will 100% read you town. And if he flips town then I will keep looking at you. I need to reread something but like 2 pages ago it was like he was scum reading you and in the space of a few posts town reading you. So TT seems like a good lynch. I don't see why my flip has anything to do with Koshi, and nothing Onegu says here has anything to do with Kus. I'd also really like to see what he was talking about with my read on Koshi (+ Show Spoiler + which now that I think about it I never did really explain. Kinda 2 parts, his activity and posting are exactly like last game after starting out saying he was going to try to tone it down. Tells me he is getting engaged with the game and can't help himself. I also thought it was really towny how Koshi made a case on Rels while pushing GB, hard to see scum pushing multiple strong players at once. Just seems like Onegu is avoiding the question here, which is odd because later says this about Kush Seems like he's just deflecting away from Kush kus he wasn't trying to get LS onto me just tells him Kush is a bad lynch. His opinion of GB was also pretty weak, just said he liked his reads. I've got more to do but going to save it till tomorrow, I should be able to put in some time if not a lot. | ||
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On December 16 2015 20:53 kushm4sta wrote: Wow you guys should have lynched me. what gives This is a really weird post. You were pushing for GB pretty much all day after your initial vote on Rit and now that he flips town this is your response? You kinda did this earlier too, On December 14 2015 23:22 kushm4sta wrote: Did a quick control-f for my name. No, Koshi, I will not be useless. This level of activity looks like it will be quite manageable for me to keep up with. Yes, GB,I do deserve your vote at this point in time. I hope to put some time into this game at lunch. All I can say now is ritoky is obviously town, which is funny because I'm currently voting him. Then the rest of your filter is almost all about GB. On December 15 2015 02:51 kushm4sta wrote: K I read everything mostly. Gb is a scummy. He's nitpicking/joking around/ being lazy. Before you say I'm lazier, no. Gigyas, a little concerned with his overserious tone and his post that looked more like summary than analysis. I'll quote it below. On December 15 2015 02:56 kushm4sta wrote: On second thought after rereading his filter I'm not so sure I want to put gigas on my scum list yet. I will wait to see what his scumreads look like. Gb, I'll vote for him when I get a chance. Unless he does something townie. This read on Gig is pretty flippant as well, I'd like to hear what Kush thinks of Gig now. More pushing GB. On December 15 2015 10:31 kushm4sta wrote: Why are we not lynching GB? im confused. On December 15 2015 21:48 kushm4sta wrote: I see no reason not to vote gb. Dunno when flip is but I will try to do some stuff at lunch So Kush spends pretty much all D1 talking about GB, only other real read I see is a TR on Rit. His response after EoD is total shit and doesn't match up with any of his play thus far. Starting to think about a team of Gig/Kush/+1. I haven't forgotten about rereading Rit, I'll prob look at him in my next post. Might not get to that till closer to EoN, but I will get it done. | ||
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On December 17 2015 02:26 kushm4sta wrote: Hi tt I will read gigas. Um I said you should have lynched me? Cause then ivwoildnt have to worry about this game anymore 'll Humm, I can understand that feeling, but thats not really what your other post implied... Let me see what you get on Gig, and your other reads as well. Right now I'd preffer to lynch Vivax tomorrow over anyone else, so you've got some time to do your thing. | ||
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He makes some solid points and shows some clear thinking, but then other times he talks about stuff like he's got some magic mind-meld read on people. The real issue I have with the mind meld stuff is it only works for Rit (as in will never change other people's minds because it's not based on something tangible) and we just have to take his work on those reads. Similarly I think it's kinda shit that he claims "Only girls have a 100% read on LS" which sounds kinda like he's just leaving himself room to change his read on LS. I'm also finding Rit's EoD very lackluster. He was around and responding to some of my posts but other than that he only posts these 2 posts to push his own reads. On December 16 2015 07:35 ritoky wrote: the fact that the main proponent of kush's lynch (koochi) isn't even voting on kush and he has accumulated more votes than tt or gb did at any point disturbs me greatly. it probably means more likely mafia between gb and tt. It looked like Kush was going to be the lynch right up until I voted and Damdred tried to Shenannie, but this was all Rit did to try and get the lynches he wanted (Myself or GB). It's also pretty shit then how Rit attacks Damdred after EoD for getting GB lynched since GB was his preffered lynch. On December 16 2015 08:10 ritoky wrote: wtf was that damdred? a shennanie with 3 minutes left that you very quickly see and probably knew ahead of time wasn't happening and it hammers a town? wat? On December 16 2015 08:11 ritoky wrote: tt did not hammer gb, damdred did. tt's vote is irrelevant due to kush reaching votes first. without damdred's unvote it is irrelevant. Just feels out of place given Rit wanted to flip GB. Also I must have missed this before, but I'm confused about Rit's read on Kush. His reads post comes first but this was the post I missed: On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote: if you want me to write the why is kush potentially mafia book it would basically be: he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently and probably is a result of extra information. i currently have a lack of desire to go down that rabbit hole cuz he called me town and too right thus scum isn't usually a good day 1 lunchable. also he did a game winning impression of me that i loved. So Kush is potentially mafia, but Rit doesn't want to go down that rabbit hole due to Kush townreading him... I have no idea what the last bit is referring to. It's like he's leaving room for Kush to be mafia but gives a handwavy explanation why he doesn't want to push that. Feels really off especially since Rit goes off to defend Kush pretty hard at EoD. Here we see Rit has Kush as his 2nd most town after Shape On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote: too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me. shape is town kush is probably town not interested in lynching koshi not interested in lynching damdred not interested in lynching rels no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment tt is probably mafia gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit every1 else is nai or unremarkable ##vote: glowingbear i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia. He even explains this read to me and defends it when Rels is asking about it kush - had the tr on me at the right time, had the gb read at the right time, told koochi to go fuck himself. On December 15 2015 19:35 ritoky wrote: hey rels, i wanna sell you a brand new car for only $500. + Show Spoiler + there's a catch that's the read. let that blow your mind for an hour while i sleep for 40 minutes and get woken up again cuz babies don't like changes in their local environment and the oddly strong smell of lavender. On December 15 2015 19:45 ritoky wrote: gb, me, gigays, response to koochi. plz click filter b4 needling about pointless things. I've already discussed the weird townread on Shape, and I saw shape make a big tinfoil case on Rit regarding it (need to read that better, only had time to skim it) so that is another point to consider here. On the other hand Rit's push on me had some good explanations even if it's just making a big deal of me reevaluating my thoughts, and the way that he was interacting with me near EoD feels pretty geniune. The first part looks very towny to me, especially the bolded: On December 14 2015 18:14 ritoky wrote: reasons: shape is town cuz he went derpies. mafia doesn't go derpies over a missed joke and mafia doesn't go derpies while not reading the setup/roles. shape went derpies over those things thus town. i thought tt made same read as me, thus he is town. he then retracted his read so clearly he was not inside my brain lobe and is no longer town. his retracted read gives a null read that is even-handed. it is horse shit. it treats shape's alignment less than 12 hours into the game as some dynamic puzzle or something. it just feels like forced fabricated gray goo; plus there's no point to it other than maybe he realized he is tring someone he can ml. you said you liked 1 post, do you really need that much explanation to downgrade to null? overexplainers anonymous released demographics recently and turns out 70% of members are mafia. his questions don't feel like they are headed to conclusions his response to kush is awkward; it feels like he wants to make a joke but wants to be srs. too considered of a response. he pings lurkers, statistics have something to say about this and the propensity of it leading to mafia. + Show Spoiler + I still don't get why everyone blows up at me for thinking about NAI or null things out loud, but I guess I should learn to change that up. Last game GB and Vivax tunneled me the shit out of me D1 for a very similar post, here it is so you can compare for yourself. On November 25 2015 09:04 Tictock wrote: Hmm? You might have a point here, especially revealing so early before he could even see the affects of smurfing. FF tends to play fairly lazily the first few days and picks it up later. Maybe he rolled mafia and was worried people would push him early on? Course all of this is assuming it's actually FF and not someone trying to mind game us early... that's pretty tinfoily though and would be a pretty silly play. Gunna put this down as slightly suspect but possibly NAI for now. He talks about his read on me again here: On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote: if you want me to write the why tt is potentially mafia book it would basically be: he tr shape for good reason (i thought) at proper time and when it was popular, then backed out of it for a bad/no reason when it was popular, was awkward, then has basically snap conceded/fucked off in the face of me wanting to lynch him. The bolded line is not true iirc. I think Shape pointed this out at some point as well, but I was one of the first people to dislike Shapes early posting and the shit about "Snap conceded/fucked off" is obviously laughable now. So in this post Rit is inventing reasons to scum read me. While lining up one of his own townreads as a potential scum and is pushing a now confirmed townie. I didn't even realize when I started anylizing that post how fucking shit it was. But now that I've looked over #393 pretty carefully I see Rit is pushing 3 mislynchs there while inventing reasons to push them. I've seen Rit play rather strongly as mafia before in the Newbie game I ran, he is rather good at it. Look this shit over though I think Rit is a soild chance at scum here. Which brings me up to 3-4 scum reads now in Gig/Rit/Vivax/ and maybe Kush. I think I need to get back to solidifying my townreads because right now I think if we lynch out these people we win the game. According to OP I can donate my posts If a decent majority vote yes, I'm looking at 5 pages/filter per cycle, post donations (per Ver) up to 15 posts allowed per player. Filters allow us to keep track of this as has done past games. This is the last of my time today as I have to head to my 2nd job soon. So I'm giving the rest of my posts to Shape. ##Donate 15 posts to Shapelog | ||
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Which brings me up to 3-4 scum reads now in Gig/Rit/Vivax/ and one of Kush. Is not exactly where my reads are, Kush/Onegu/Tube are all more null than scum right now. I'll do an updated list when I have time tonight. | ||
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On December 17 2015 07:32 Shapelog wrote: Vivax. Your new name is Vobby. After Dobby the house elf from Harry potter for your unending will to serve your master Koshius In the quest to kill the Scum Eatters! Damm I want to make a drawing now showing GiygaS Khan as Khan, Vobby and Koshius, and me, Shapanders. Might kickstart this. I'm so fucking glad I gave you more posts, lmao. And you should totally do this | ||
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On December 17 2015 08:01 Blazinghand wrote: [/center]ritoky, a chocolate bar (Miller), had been chewed up by rats. Dammit, well so much for that last big post I made. I should really learn my lesson and lay off the tinfoil... Humm, I'm tempted to say that was was to promote WIFOM on myself and Damdred. I was kinda expecting a shot on Koshi since almost everyone reads him as town. Funny thing is I did shoot Rit N1 in my only scum game, uhh dam what was it called again... oh yea Holy Guardians. Humm... Nope... I'm not going to tinfoil this time. + Show Spoiler + I probably still will Anyways, I disagree with Koshi. Vivax needs to play the game or GTFO. ##Vote: Vivax | ||
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On December 17 2015 08:46 kushm4sta wrote: So that's got to look good for me right? A townie saved me. Rit's vote had very little to do with influencing how EoD1 turned out. So him flipping town doesn't mean anything about you. | ||
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I tried to read it but I've worked a split shift at one job today (opened at 4am, then was back from 5-8pm) and worked at my 2nd job in between my brain is fried. I'll save it for tomorrow and try to make sense of the broken quotes. I'll give EoD another read tomorrow and then take a look at all these cases about Rels and from Rels. Thankfully I have some days off coming up so I'll have plenty of time this phase. | ||
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On December 17 2015 13:03 Tubesock wrote: @Tictock - I get the policy vote. I mean it's kinda not since 2 full days of nothing is lurking at a new level. But with Ritoky flipping town, does that mean your scum team is me/GiygaS/Vivax? To the world, doing a crew change today so while I'm not working I'm going to be in an out for the next few hours. You are still Null kus I didn't feel like there was enough content from you yet to try and make a read (or at least nothing jumped out at me from what I'd read up to today). I'll try to take a closer look at your posts tomorrow when my brain is not fried. My vote on Vivax is slightly more than policy, but right now I'll call it pressure as Vivax posting more should help us read him better as either alignment. (I mentioned my reason for scum reading him sometime during Night, if anyone wants to dig that up). Gig hasn't done or said anything to really change my read, I'm more than happy to reevaluate sometime later though. Kush is on my radar as well, but I'm kinda waffeling on him. Rels and Damdred are worth rereading sometime here as well. | ||
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On December 17 2015 13:26 Shapelog wrote: What WoT btw? WoT = Wall o' Text I haven't seen anyone post something that huge in a long time. Though if you get time (and you seem to have a bit on your hands) you should check my mega posts from my... 2nd? I think? Newbie game here. I tunneled the shit out of a town!Plotspot who managed to RB the mafia kill target 3/4 nights and I was convinced was fakeclaiming ( I was Masons with Breske that game). I did 3 mega posts that I prob spent like 3-4 hours putting together showing how my tinfoil fit perfectly. I was dead wrong >.< Sorry I'm not posting anything helpful, just responding to stuff. I'm gunna call it a night. | ||
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