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On December 16 2015 07:19 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
He's buddying obvious town when usually he would be nit picking everyone and super paranoid of *obvious town*.
he's also trying to use more bullshit reasons and instead of trying to push what he thinks he is taking the path of least resistance.
ie instead of pushing me jumped on kush.
idk if kush is scum granted but its suspicious of rels. Humm this is actually a decent point. Game is going fast enough that I'm barely keeping up but I'll take the time to look over Rels in just a min.
How is it scum indicative when I thought deadline was in 10 minutes and nobody wanted to vote Damdred ?
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Damdred, everyone wants your bomb. Not a real bomb, a metaphor bomb, or bomb in your pants. We want the bomb of information you said you give use 21 hours ago (ok maybe not everyone, But i do)
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Alright I am here. I needed to step away for a bit. Give me a few minutes to catch up.
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On December 16 2015 07:20 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2015 07:19 Tictock wrote:On December 16 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
He's buddying obvious town when usually he would be nit picking everyone and super paranoid of *obvious town*.
he's also trying to use more bullshit reasons and instead of trying to push what he thinks he is taking the path of least resistance.
ie instead of pushing me jumped on kush.
idk if kush is scum granted but its suspicious of rels. Humm this is actually a decent point. Game is going fast enough that I'm barely keeping up but I'll take the time to look over Rels in just a min. How is it scum indicative when I thought deadline was in 10 minutes and nobody wanted to vote Damdred ?
I was on the fence about Damdred. I also thought we had 10 minutes too because it said it on the deadline. Once he came back i wonder if i should. To me Kush makes more sense thou
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On December 16 2015 07:14 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2015 07:08 Tictock wrote:On December 16 2015 06:50 ritoky wrote:On December 16 2015 06:49 Tictock wrote:On December 16 2015 06:02 ritoky wrote:On December 16 2015 05:00 Tictock wrote:Oops forgot I wanted to bring up this post real quick then I'm done talking about Rit for the moment. On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote:
too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me.
shape is town
kush is probably town
not interested in lynching koshi
not interested in lynching damdred
not interested in lynching rels
no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment
tt is probably mafia
gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote
gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit
every1 else is nai or unremarkable
##vote: glowingbear
i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia. Rit can you talk to me more about your bolded reads here? Kush has made a few okish posts since his open, but what has he done to warrant a townread like this? Why are you saying you need girls to read LS? is this a joke I'm missing, kus it seems really werid to me. Why have you given Rels a free pass but not GB? I don't really recall anything noteworthy from either of them so why is Rels a no lynch but GB a pressure vote? kush - had the tr on me at the right time, had the gb read at the right time, told koochi to go fuck himself. LS - historically women on these forums read him with near 100% accuracy. it isn't a joke or an exaggeration. rels - i coached rels and in doing so i developed a method of reading him, it doesn't work until day 2 or later so i am confident in my ability to discern his alignment late game. Ok w/e about the LS thing, I kinda get you on Rels, but the Kush stuff doesn't make much sense to me, well expect the part about Koshi. This "the right time" feels like shit to me, how do you know the right time? the right time is when i think the exact same thing in my brain at that time. Ah ok, so it's just a mindmeld thing? Is that a reliable metric for you? People are usually never on the same page as me so I rarely get moments like that. What did you think of what I was pointing out about Gig since I know you saw my post about him? if it happens more than once it usually means the person is above 80% chance to be town, reliable enough for me to not vote them d1. imo gig is completely underwhelming and i remember nothing about him off the top of my head other than he said he was gonna do shit and didn't.
Thats not really what I was asking, what about these points?
For those who hate to read, Reasons to scumread Gig.
- Weird progression on me. Scum read on me develops after Rit starts pushing me, drops the read after we talk about something else, then says everyone is null and shortly after is back on me for the same thing Rit was talking about in the first place.
-Multiple times says he's got only Null and Town reads. Mafia tend to have a hard time finding reasons to scumread other players whereas town tends to jump on things that bug them.
-Scumreads all come from other people. He mentions a "lean" on Koshi for a meta he has no experience with (obviously talking about the meta read on Koshi early on), his readon me comes from Rit, the scumread on Rels was from Koshi, and I think (I haven't checked this one) the Shape read comes from Onegu/Sukrit
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On December 16 2015 07:17 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote:
idk...that read flip on shape and those 3 posts are pretty fucking awful and probably make you scum....but then you come back and decide to swim up the river of heavy resistance rather than least resistance...then you base half your game on omgusing an obv town....i really have no clue what you're doing if you're town. If the bolded is referring to you I think you are overstating your townyness. I think I'm taking my OMGUS into account properly here... I hope. Besides my read on you has more to do with the way you are reading Shape than me... ehh maybe 60/40. Why don't we talk about someone other than me for a second though? Like imagine for a moment that I wasn't around and was probably going to be modkilled. Who would you be your backup?
i mean i haven't even voted on you, i am voting on gb; so it is clear what my alternative is. and i am not overstating my towniness, i claimed vt.
basically why i keep talking about you is i am trying to figure out if you're just mafia or you're going to be "that guy" for me this game. "that guy" refers to the person in the game who i have a burning desire to lynch every phase and must forcibly talk myself out of lynching every phase. this is a very important distinction that could impede my progress of solving this game.
outside of you who i want to lynch and gb who i am voting on cuz i expect better from, i have no particular desire of lynch targets.
i don't want to lynch koochi, shape, damdred, kush, rels; everyone else i won't be hurt if they disappear.
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On December 16 2015 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Damdred his scumgame is better than this though. He is really good at it. So there are time restrictions at play either alignment. Hmm not sure if I want to lynch him. He is pretty on point in those few posts. He is just not solving anything... It is pure lack of solving the game that makes him mafia right?
This. There is one game I played very recently with damdred and scum read him really hard and was completely wrong on it. He goes through these phases of playing and not playing. Would need more than activity to lynch him today.
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On December 16 2015 07:20 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2015 07:19 Tictock wrote:On December 16 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
He's buddying obvious town when usually he would be nit picking everyone and super paranoid of *obvious town*.
he's also trying to use more bullshit reasons and instead of trying to push what he thinks he is taking the path of least resistance.
ie instead of pushing me jumped on kush.
idk if kush is scum granted but its suspicious of rels. Humm this is actually a decent point. Game is going fast enough that I'm barely keeping up but I'll take the time to look over Rels in just a min. How is it scum indicative when I thought deadline was in 10 minutes and nobody wanted to vote Damdred ?
Ok that does make sense, I didn't know you were confused about the deadline.
Also yea, I don't think we should lynch Damdred.
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On December 16 2015 07:25 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2015 07:17 Tictock wrote:On December 16 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote:
idk...that read flip on shape and those 3 posts are pretty fucking awful and probably make you scum....but then you come back and decide to swim up the river of heavy resistance rather than least resistance...then you base half your game on omgusing an obv town....i really have no clue what you're doing if you're town. If the bolded is referring to you I think you are overstating your townyness. I think I'm taking my OMGUS into account properly here... I hope. Besides my read on you has more to do with the way you are reading Shape than me... ehh maybe 60/40. Why don't we talk about someone other than me for a second though? Like imagine for a moment that I wasn't around and was probably going to be modkilled. Who would you be your backup? i mean i haven't even voted on you, i am voting on gb; so it is clear what my alternative is. and i am not overstating my towniness, i claimed vt. basically why i keep talking about you is i am trying to figure out if you're just mafia or you're going to be "that guy" for me this game. "that guy" refers to the person in the game who i have a burning desire to lynch every phase and must forcibly talk myself out of lynching every phase. this is a very important distinction that could impede my progress of solving this game. outside of you who i want to lynch and gb who i am voting on cuz i expect better from, i have no particular desire of lynch targets. i don't want to lynch koochi, shape, damdred, kush, rels; everyone else i won't be hurt if they disappear.
I thought your GB vote was purely for pressure, ok noted.
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On December 16 2015 07:24 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2015 07:14 ritoky wrote:On December 16 2015 07:08 Tictock wrote:On December 16 2015 06:50 ritoky wrote:On December 16 2015 06:49 Tictock wrote:On December 16 2015 06:02 ritoky wrote:On December 16 2015 05:00 Tictock wrote:Oops forgot I wanted to bring up this post real quick then I'm done talking about Rit for the moment. On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote:
too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me.
shape is town
kush is probably town
not interested in lynching koshi
not interested in lynching damdred
not interested in lynching rels
no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment
tt is probably mafia
gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote
gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit
every1 else is nai or unremarkable
##vote: glowingbear
i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia. Rit can you talk to me more about your bolded reads here? Kush has made a few okish posts since his open, but what has he done to warrant a townread like this? Why are you saying you need girls to read LS? is this a joke I'm missing, kus it seems really werid to me. Why have you given Rels a free pass but not GB? I don't really recall anything noteworthy from either of them so why is Rels a no lynch but GB a pressure vote? kush - had the tr on me at the right time, had the gb read at the right time, told koochi to go fuck himself. LS - historically women on these forums read him with near 100% accuracy. it isn't a joke or an exaggeration. rels - i coached rels and in doing so i developed a method of reading him, it doesn't work until day 2 or later so i am confident in my ability to discern his alignment late game. Ok w/e about the LS thing, I kinda get you on Rels, but the Kush stuff doesn't make much sense to me, well expect the part about Koshi. This "the right time" feels like shit to me, how do you know the right time? the right time is when i think the exact same thing in my brain at that time. Ah ok, so it's just a mindmeld thing? Is that a reliable metric for you? People are usually never on the same page as me so I rarely get moments like that. What did you think of what I was pointing out about Gig since I know you saw my post about him? if it happens more than once it usually means the person is above 80% chance to be town, reliable enough for me to not vote them d1. imo gig is completely underwhelming and i remember nothing about him off the top of my head other than he said he was gonna do shit and didn't. Thats not really what I was asking, what about these points? Show nested quote +
For those who hate to read, Reasons to scumread Gig.
- Weird progression on me. Scum read on me develops after Rit starts pushing me, drops the read after we talk about something else, then says everyone is null and shortly after is back on me for the same thing Rit was talking about in the first place.
-Multiple times says he's got only Null and Town reads. Mafia tend to have a hard time finding reasons to scumread other players whereas town tends to jump on things that bug them.
-Scumreads all come from other people. He mentions a "lean" on Koshi for a meta he has no experience with (obviously talking about the meta read on Koshi early on), his readon me comes from Rit, the scumread on Rels was from Koshi, and I think (I haven't checked this one) the Shape read comes from Onegu/Sukrit
vote -> unvote no reason no interaction could be mafia indicative, but doesn't give me a boner.
rest of the stuff is just him being unoriginal and unmemorable which i covered, not really alignment indicative; tons of people are just sheeple.
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Lol for as bad a post this seemed like at the time it's amazing Rels hit the nail right on the head here.
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On December 16 2015 07:28 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2015 07:25 ritoky wrote:On December 16 2015 07:17 Tictock wrote:On December 16 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote:
idk...that read flip on shape and those 3 posts are pretty fucking awful and probably make you scum....but then you come back and decide to swim up the river of heavy resistance rather than least resistance...then you base half your game on omgusing an obv town....i really have no clue what you're doing if you're town. If the bolded is referring to you I think you are overstating your townyness. I think I'm taking my OMGUS into account properly here... I hope. Besides my read on you has more to do with the way you are reading Shape than me... ehh maybe 60/40. Why don't we talk about someone other than me for a second though? Like imagine for a moment that I wasn't around and was probably going to be modkilled. Who would you be your backup? i mean i haven't even voted on you, i am voting on gb; so it is clear what my alternative is. and i am not overstating my towniness, i claimed vt. basically why i keep talking about you is i am trying to figure out if you're just mafia or you're going to be "that guy" for me this game. "that guy" refers to the person in the game who i have a burning desire to lynch every phase and must forcibly talk myself out of lynching every phase. this is a very important distinction that could impede my progress of solving this game. outside of you who i want to lynch and gb who i am voting on cuz i expect better from, i have no particular desire of lynch targets. i don't want to lynch koochi, shape, damdred, kush, rels; everyone else i won't be hurt if they disappear. I thought your GB vote was purely for pressure, ok noted.
it was pressure pending he deliver the goods. he never delivered the goods.
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Well something came up so i won't be here till 8 ish.
##Vote:Kush
Voting kush due to lurking and guess what hes lurking. Meta read though, just best right now for me.
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On December 16 2015 07:29 Tictock wrote:Lol for as bad a post this seemed like at the time it's amazing Rels hit the nail right on the head here.
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Alright falling asleep, good night all.
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On December 16 2015 07:29 Shapelog wrote:
Well something came up so i won't be here till 8 ish.
##Vote:Kush
Voting kush due to lurking and guess what hes lurking. Meta read though, just best right now for me.
kush is a bad vote imo
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sorry guys i had a lunch meeting.
I won't be able to catch up on reading tonight. Pretty dumb to lynch me due to a lurker meta though. Whether I am a lurker or not has nothign to do with alignment and everything to do with how busy I am.
Dark tournament I was also lynched d1 for low activity and I was also town. So keep that in mind.
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*Probably won't be able to. We will see how tonight goes.
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the fact that the main proponent of kush's lynch (koochi) isn't even voting on kush and he has accumulated more votes than tt or gb did at any point disturbs me greatly. it probably means more likely mafia between gb and tt.
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You were lynched because of your reasoning for voting me that game Day 1 not because of your activity............
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