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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 15 2015 21:59 GMT
#581
On December 16 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote:
idk...that read flip on shape and those 3 posts are pretty fucking awful and probably make you scum....but then you come back and decide to swim up the river of heavy resistance rather than least resistance...then you base half your game on omgusing an obv town....i really have no clue what you're doing if you're town.


You're talking about who?
I'm adorable.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 15 2015 21:59 GMT
#582
Alright everyone we were going to lynch showed up except Kush.
TT
+ Show Spoiler +
I am not confinde in him yet. I unvoted so i could hear his agurment against Rik. Not sure about him, i been having a scummy/null feeling about him. His posts when he came back i admit feels rushed, But might be because he felt pressure from lynch? idk, but he starting to look like he did in Haunted mason

Damred
+ Show Spoiler +
RL stuff, Want Bomb

GB
+ Show Spoiler +
Again RL stuff. However, weaker case vs Damred because he had sunday to post and his posts seems lackluster. Might just be him on D1 who knows


I say if Kush doesn't come we lynch him
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 22:00 GMT
#583
On December 16 2015 06:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote:
idk...that read flip on shape and those 3 posts are pretty fucking awful and probably make you scum....but then you come back and decide to swim up the river of heavy resistance rather than least resistance...then you base half your game on omgusing an obv town....i really have no clue what you're doing if you're town.


You're talking about who?


tt
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 15 2015 22:03 GMT
#584
Rit I haven't read any of your posts will you at least five me some opinion on what I saw in rels and tell me what you think?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 15 2015 22:03 GMT
#585
On December 16 2015 06:59 Shapelog wrote:
Alright everyone we were going to lynch showed up except Kush.
TT
+ Show Spoiler +
I am not confinde in him yet. I unvoted so i could hear his agurment against Rik. Not sure about him, i been having a scummy/null feeling about him. His posts when he came back i admit feels rushed, But might be because he felt pressure from lynch? idk, but he starting to look like he did in Haunted mason

Damred
+ Show Spoiler +
RL stuff, Want Bomb

GB
+ Show Spoiler +
Again RL stuff. However, weaker case vs Damred because he had sunday to post and his posts seems lackluster. Might just be him on D1 who knows


I say if Kush doesn't come we lynch him

You're Mafia
I'm adorable.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 15 2015 22:04 GMT
#586
On December 16 2015 06:45 Koshi wrote:
Yeah what about we shennanies on Kush?


Humm, maybe. I kinda like his "come fight me attitude" but then again that doesn't mean much since he's never really around does it?

What was making you read Gig as town Koshi? (I think you said that earlier)

His vote on me was pretty opportunistic and his progression on it was weird, along with parroting most of not all his scumreads.

I know you didn't like my "case" (it wasn't but w/e) on him, so what did you like about him?
I can take that responsibility.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 15 2015 22:05 GMT
#587
On December 16 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
He's buddying obvious town when usually he would be nit picking everyone and super paranoid of *obvious town*.

he's also trying to use more bullshit reasons and instead of trying to push what he thinks he is taking the path of least resistance.

ie instead of pushing me jumped on kush.

idk if kush is scum granted but its suspicious of rels.

1 - did I nitpick and was paranoid of you last game, when you were *obvious town* ? No.
2 - I'm not buddying anyone.
3 - what bullshit reasons are you talking about ?
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 15 2015 22:05 GMT
#588
On December 16 2015 07:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 06:59 Shapelog wrote:
Alright everyone we were going to lynch showed up except Kush.
TT
+ Show Spoiler +
I am not confinde in him yet. I unvoted so i could hear his agurment against Rik. Not sure about him, i been having a scummy/null feeling about him. His posts when he came back i admit feels rushed, But might be because he felt pressure from lynch? idk, but he starting to look like he did in Haunted mason

Damred
+ Show Spoiler +
RL stuff, Want Bomb

GB
+ Show Spoiler +
Again RL stuff. However, weaker case vs Damred because he had sunday to post and his posts seems lackluster. Might just be him on D1 who knows


I say if Kush doesn't come we lynch him

You're Mafia


And? Can you explain? nothing in the post to me makes me mafia. Is it because i want to lynch Kush or something? I mean it makes sense to lynch Kush if he doesn't come right?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 15 2015 22:08 GMT
#589
On December 16 2015 06:50 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 06:49 Tictock wrote:
On December 16 2015 06:02 ritoky wrote:
On December 16 2015 05:00 Tictock wrote:
Oops forgot I wanted to bring up this post real quick then I'm done talking about Rit for the moment.

On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote:
too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me.

shape is town
kush is probably town
not interested in lynching koshi
not interested in lynching damdred
not interested in lynching rels
no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment

tt is probably mafia
gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote
gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit
every1 else is nai or unremarkable

##vote: glowingbear

i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia.


Rit can you talk to me more about your bolded reads here?

Kush has made a few okish posts since his open, but what has he done to warrant a townread like this?

Why are you saying you need girls to read LS? is this a joke I'm missing, kus it seems really werid to me.

Why have you given Rels a free pass but not GB? I don't really recall anything noteworthy from either of them so why is Rels a no lynch but GB a pressure vote?


kush - had the tr on me at the right time, had the gb read at the right time, told koochi to go fuck himself.

LS - historically women on these forums read him with near 100% accuracy. it isn't a joke or an exaggeration.

rels - i coached rels and in doing so i developed a method of reading him, it doesn't work until day 2 or later so i am confident in my ability to discern his alignment late game.


Ok w/e about the LS thing, I kinda get you on Rels, but the Kush stuff doesn't make much sense to me, well expect the part about Koshi.

This "the right time" feels like shit to me, how do you know the right time?




the right time is when i think the exact same thing in my brain at that time.


Ah ok, so it's just a mindmeld thing?

Is that a reliable metric for you?

People are usually never on the same page as me so I rarely get moments like that.

What did you think of what I was pointing out about Gig since I know you saw my post about him?
I can take that responsibility.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 15 2015 22:08 GMT
#590
I mean from the sounds of Koshi and friends, Kush's scum meta seems to be a lurker playstyle. And look! he's playing a lurker playstyle!

I know i'm reading into a meta that was only brought to my attention by peoples posts about him. But still why i'm i mafia.

P.S. third sentence in #588 was suppose to me "Nothing in the post to me sound/makes me mafia"
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 15 2015 22:09 GMT
#591
^ wait why i'm even fighting about this?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 22:09 GMT
#592
On December 16 2015 07:03 Damdred wrote:
Rit I haven't read any of your posts will you at least five me some opinion on what I saw in rels and tell me what you think?


On December 15 2015 19:31 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote:
if you want me to write the why is kush potentially mafia book it would basically be: he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently and probably is a result of extra information. i currently have a lack of desire to go down that rabbit hole cuz he called me town and too right thus scum isn't usually a good day 1 lunchable. also he did a game winning impression of me that i loved.

The only townread he posted was on you being obviously town, what do you mean he's right "too frequently" ?
Do you think his reason for townreading you ("his long post where he sounds paranoid") was bad ?


On December 15 2015 19:38 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 19:35 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:31 Rels wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote:
if you want me to write the why is kush potentially mafia book it would basically be: he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently and probably is a result of extra information. i currently have a lack of desire to go down that rabbit hole cuz he called me town and too right thus scum isn't usually a good day 1 lunchable. also he did a game winning impression of me that i loved.

The only townread he posted was on you being obviously town, what do you mean he's right "too frequently" ?
Do you think his reason for townreading you ("his long post where he sounds paranoid") was bad ?


hey rels, i wanna sell you a brand new car for only $500.

+ Show Spoiler +
there's a catch


that's the read. let that blow your mind for an hour while i sleep for 40 minutes and get woken up again cuz babies don't like changes in their local environment and the oddly strong smell of lavender.

I don't understand one "he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently" can refer to only one read ?


On December 15 2015 19:49 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 19:45 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:38 Rels wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:35 ritoky wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:31 Rels wrote:
On December 15 2015 19:24 ritoky wrote:
if you want me to write the why is kush potentially mafia book it would basically be: he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently and probably is a result of extra information. i currently have a lack of desire to go down that rabbit hole cuz he called me town and too right thus scum isn't usually a good day 1 lunchable. also he did a game winning impression of me that i loved.

The only townread he posted was on you being obviously town, what do you mean he's right "too frequently" ?
Do you think his reason for townreading you ("his long post where he sounds paranoid") was bad ?


hey rels, i wanna sell you a brand new car for only $500.

+ Show Spoiler +
there's a catch


that's the read. let that blow your mind for an hour while i sleep for 40 minutes and get woken up again cuz babies don't like changes in their local environment and the oddly strong smell of lavender.

I don't understand one "he makes good reads that are definitive at the proper time too frequently" can refer to only one read ?


gb, me, gigays, response to koochi. plz click filter b4 needling about pointless things.

OK that makes more sense.


he was needling me over nothing so i think you're a bit wrong there. i think your deferring to someone else's read as a path of less blame/resistance part is valid. but generally i think with rels when he is mafia he has a hard time separating the additive information he has, so when he is mafia he ends up speaking with more certainty due to extra info and sticking to his views harder/not considering alternatives. pretty hard to analyze that as a metric on d1, but his current play isn't outside of him being mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 15 2015 22:11 GMT
#593
You always nit pick me you were afk last game we were in.

Your case is bs though
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 15 2015 22:13 GMT
#594
On December 16 2015 07:11 Damdred wrote:
You always nit pick me you were afk last game we were in.

Your case is bs though

Can you do a list post please ?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 15 2015 22:14 GMT
#595
On December 16 2015 07:08 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 06:50 ritoky wrote:
On December 16 2015 06:49 Tictock wrote:
On December 16 2015 06:02 ritoky wrote:
On December 16 2015 05:00 Tictock wrote:
Oops forgot I wanted to bring up this post real quick then I'm done talking about Rit for the moment.

On December 15 2015 13:56 ritoky wrote:
too many people don't have an opinion on who is mafia. too many null reads. everyone should call someone mafia in their next post and stop wasting time pussyfooting. the time for your pointless shitty information gathering questions is past; form some opinions and stop being less useful than me.

shape is town
kush is probably town
not interested in lynching koshi
not interested in lynching damdred
not interested in lynching rels
no girls in the game so dunno LS alignment

tt is probably mafia
gb is underwhelming and should be a potential vote
gig does the whole not delivering on promises shit
every1 else is nai or unremarkable

##vote: glowingbear

i am voting on you to piss you off so that you can shit town on me and then i can lynch tt at the eod. please stop being worse than me, cuz if you're worse than me you're probably mafia.


Rit can you talk to me more about your bolded reads here?

Kush has made a few okish posts since his open, but what has he done to warrant a townread like this?

Why are you saying you need girls to read LS? is this a joke I'm missing, kus it seems really werid to me.

Why have you given Rels a free pass but not GB? I don't really recall anything noteworthy from either of them so why is Rels a no lynch but GB a pressure vote?


kush - had the tr on me at the right time, had the gb read at the right time, told koochi to go fuck himself.

LS - historically women on these forums read him with near 100% accuracy. it isn't a joke or an exaggeration.

rels - i coached rels and in doing so i developed a method of reading him, it doesn't work until day 2 or later so i am confident in my ability to discern his alignment late game.


Ok w/e about the LS thing, I kinda get you on Rels, but the Kush stuff doesn't make much sense to me, well expect the part about Koshi.

This "the right time" feels like shit to me, how do you know the right time?




the right time is when i think the exact same thing in my brain at that time.


Ah ok, so it's just a mindmeld thing?

Is that a reliable metric for you?

People are usually never on the same page as me so I rarely get moments like that.

What did you think of what I was pointing out about Gig since I know you saw my post about him?


if it happens more than once it usually means the person is above 80% chance to be town, reliable enough for me to not vote them d1.

imo gig is completely underwhelming and i remember nothing about him off the top of my head other than he said he was gonna do shit and didn't.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 15 2015 22:14 GMT
#596
Hrm

I'll have to look st context tommorow then see what happened.

I can't lead a lynch this far behind in an hour. So I see people want me, GB or kush correct
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 15 2015 22:17 GMT
#597
On December 16 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote:
idk...that read flip on shape and those 3 posts are pretty fucking awful and probably make you scum....but then you come back and decide to swim up the river of heavy resistance rather than least resistance...then you base half your game on omgusing an obv town....i really have no clue what you're doing if you're town.


If the bolded is referring to you I think you are overstating your townyness.

I think I'm taking my OMGUS into account properly here... I hope.

Besides my read on you has more to do with the way you are reading Shape than me... ehh maybe 60/40.

Why don't we talk about someone other than me for a second though? Like imagine for a moment that I wasn't around and was probably going to be modkilled. Who would you be your backup?
I can take that responsibility.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 15 2015 22:17 GMT
#598
On December 16 2015 07:14 Damdred wrote:
Hrm

I'll have to look st context tommorow then see what happened.

I can't lead a lynch this far behind in an hour. So I see people want me, GB or kush correct

Pretty much with TT also.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 15 2015 22:18 GMT
#599
On December 16 2015 07:14 Damdred wrote:
Hrm

I'll have to look st context tommorow then see what happened.

I can't lead a lynch this far behind in an hour. So I see people want me, GB or kush correct

1 - can you do a list post with you reads please ?
2 - you shouldn't need the context to defend yourself from my case. So please do it.
3 - you said I had bullshit reasons here:
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 07:05 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 16 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
He's buddying obvious town when usually he would be nit picking everyone and super paranoid of *obvious town*.

he's also trying to use more bullshit reasons and instead of trying to push what he thinks he is taking the path of least resistance.

ie instead of pushing me jumped on kush.

idk if kush is scum granted but its suspicious of rels.[/QUOTE]
please quote and explain.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 15 2015 22:19 GMT
#600
On December 16 2015 06:59 Damdred wrote:
He's buddying obvious town when usually he would be nit picking everyone and super paranoid of *obvious town*.

he's also trying to use more bullshit reasons and instead of trying to push what he thinks he is taking the path of least resistance.

ie instead of pushing me jumped on kush.

idk if kush is scum granted but its suspicious of rels.


Humm this is actually a decent point.

Game is going fast enough that I'm barely keeping up but I'll take the time to look over Rels in just a min.
I can take that responsibility.
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