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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 14 2015 20:25 GMT
#241
On December 15 2015 04:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 03:55 Koshi wrote:
On December 14 2015 18:14 ritoky wrote:
reasons: shape is town cuz he went derpies. mafia doesn't go derpies over a missed joke and mafia doesn't go derpies while not reading the setup/roles. shape went derpies over those things thus town.

i thought tt made same read as me, thus he is town. he then retracted his read so clearly he was not inside my brain lobe and is no longer town.

his retracted read gives a null read that is even-handed. it is horse shit. it treats shape's alignment less than 12 hours into the game as some dynamic puzzle or something. it just feels like forced fabricated gray goo; plus there's no point to it other than maybe he realized he is tring someone he can ml. you said you liked 1 post, do you really need that much explanation to downgrade to null? overexplainers anonymous released demographics recently and turns out 70% of members are mafia.

his questions don't feel like they are headed to conclusions

his response to kush is awkward; it feels like he wants to make a joke but wants to be srs. too considered of a response.

he pings lurkers, statistics have something to say about this and the propensity of it leading to mafia.

Smart guy. I thought the same when I read that post. Contributing the obvious. Always mafialike.

On December 15 2015 03:16 GiygaS wrote:
Welcome to mafia, where everybody gets peeved with how their name is spelled

Is this referring to the fact Kush doesn't like that people type "kus" when they should type cause? Because like the above bolded part, it is mafia who generally skim the thread looking for something to say and then misinterpret something unimportant (to the game). I seen it happen a lot.

##unvote
##vote: GiygaS


Wow Koshi. This is such a poor reason to call someone mafia

And take it from me. If you see people misread unimportant events, it happens more to mafia than to town. Because they tend to skim more and not think while they read random things, so they misread things. While town tends to really read into the dumb shit as well, hoping to find gold.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
December 14 2015 20:28 GMT
#242
On December 15 2015 05:21 GiygaS wrote:
What about the question about shape? (you wanted my thoughts on him in particular for some reason)


Kus I was rethinking my read on Shape at the time and wanted to push you to talk about someone else. Win Win.
I can take that responsibility.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 20:51:11
December 14 2015 20:48 GMT
#243
Day 1 Vote Count


Tictock (2): Sukrit, GiygaS
kushm4sta (1): Koshi, GlowingBear
GigyaS (1): Koshi
GlowingBear (1): kushm4sta
ritoky (0): kushm4sta
Koshi (0): Sukrit
LightningStrike (0): Sukrit, Koshi, Shapelog

Not voted (8): Rels, Tubesock, Vivax, Damdred, Shapelog, ritoky, Tictock, LightningStrike

The Stahlbaums will exterminate Tictock tonight.
Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
Please mind the deadline. Failure to vote will result in a modkill.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 14 2015 21:08 GMT
#244
Sorry I been conserving my posts a little bit more as I had 1 page of posts already so I trying to limit myself a little bit now. But Koshi pretty much town for me atm. Also Damdred if you are here can you give me your thoughts on TT or other The smurf guy please?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 14 2015 21:18 GMT
#245
Hey look Koshi is back to normal, even mentioning cancer.

On December 15 2015 04:30 Koshi wrote:
Also. I think I should have some more transparity if I want to be the overwatch guy.


I think Rels is a good candidate for mafia because he is making excuses 10 hours in this game on page 9. Which is 6-7 pages into the game? I don't know how intense the other game is, but knowing how active rels is, I know he can keep up and say something interesting in this game. So the excuse looks to me like:

"Hi guys, here is a really great excuse so that I don't need to do anything that helps town while keeping my options open to come in the thread when I need to push mafia agenda"


This is a good point made towards Rel and Koshi's follow up supports it. I can see it as a back up lynch (or even a lynch if he doesn't start posing much.) I even think it kinda is better then Giyga Lynch ATM. However, it is weird (at least for me) for GB to come back to the thread and to say it's a poor reason and leave. Obliviously he might only had time for only a post but still he could of at least mention why he thought it was bad. I mean koshi's reasoning I admit is a bit sketchy, but it is still believable and is a possibility.

Surkit is for me, a bit well weird. He goes after people but fails to actually deliver any real evidence. His only real decent post was this:
QUOTE]On December 15 2015 04:06 Sukrit wrote:
I am not telling you guys who I am so yeah.

Why is shape defending himself when most people just town read him. That seems out of place to me. Really out of place.

I am fine with kush. And dont really understand Koshi's point on GiygaS. This game has been light and not to much to comment on. Is it a bit weird he commented on it? Maybe but not enough to warrant a vote.

Can you tell me why ritoky is townie kush? I have him completely null is there something you are seeing that I am not?

So we have multiple people scum reading ticktock but no votes on him. This seems out of place. Lets remedy that.

##Unvote

##Vote Ticktock.


I havent forgot about you koshi. You have like 4 hours before you 24 hours are up. I suggest you impress me something you are severely not doing currently.[/QUOTE]

But even here he votes on TT just because everyone else is discussing TT. It's almost like he's sheeping/parroting and the rest is just fluff to hide it. And in the fluff, it's all either something dissuised already (the point made about me), or questioning other players (kush and riktoy points). And then his Koshi-content post. I just getting a weird vibe from Surkit. I feel like he's trying to be reverent and is trying to get a bandwagon on someone without really anything to support it. Maybe i am weird thou?

TT is still Null for me atm. Just got to wait and see for him. Same with GB.

And LS and Damred are leaning towards town atm for me. Just leans thou
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 14 2015 21:18 GMT
#246
^ Damm quote malfunctions
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 14 2015 21:30 GMT
#247
M-30 see you soon
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2015 21:48 GMT
#248
##Unvote tictock

He's swapped back to null for me, will look over more when I get home from studying.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Sukrit
Profile Joined May 2015
136 Posts
December 14 2015 22:01 GMT
#249
On December 14 2015 18:10 Sukrit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 17:51 ritoky wrote:
after taking a shower and considering it. i might want to lynch tt over those posts.



Yeah I can actual feel you here. Like his post about hope to hear from these people was kinda off in a game that is less than 12 hours old. Kinda weird to me. Also his posts are asking about the obvious joke between LS and Damdred really felt forced.




So I make this post agreeing with ritoky about TT. And then Koshi makes almost the same post except I vote him and you call me out for it but not koshi?

I still dont like how you defended yourself for no reason either.
Sukrit
Profile Joined May 2015
136 Posts
December 14 2015 22:01 GMT
#250
This was @shape
Sukrit
Profile Joined May 2015
136 Posts
December 14 2015 22:02 GMT
#251
On December 15 2015 03:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 18:14 ritoky wrote:
reasons: shape is town cuz he went derpies. mafia doesn't go derpies over a missed joke and mafia doesn't go derpies while not reading the setup/roles. shape went derpies over those things thus town.

i thought tt made same read as me, thus he is town. he then retracted his read so clearly he was not inside my brain lobe and is no longer town.

his retracted read gives a null read that is even-handed. it is horse shit. it treats shape's alignment less than 12 hours into the game as some dynamic puzzle or something. it just feels like forced fabricated gray goo; plus there's no point to it other than maybe he realized he is tring someone he can ml. you said you liked 1 post, do you really need that much explanation to downgrade to null? overexplainers anonymous released demographics recently and turns out 70% of members are mafia.

his questions don't feel like they are headed to conclusions

his response to kush is awkward; it feels like he wants to make a joke but wants to be srs. too considered of a response.

he pings lurkers, statistics have something to say about this and the propensity of it leading to mafia.

Smart guy. I thought the same when I read that post. Contributing the obvious. Always mafialike.

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 03:16 GiygaS wrote:
Welcome to mafia, where everybody gets peeved with how their name is spelled

Is this referring to the fact Kush doesn't like that people type "kus" when they should type cause? Because like the above bolded part, it is mafia who generally skim the thread looking for something to say and then misinterpret something unimportant (to the game). I seen it happen a lot.

##unvote
##vote: GiygaS



Here is the post I am referring to
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 14 2015 22:14 GMT
#252
On December 15 2015 03:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 03:16 GiygaS wrote:
Welcome to mafia, where everybody gets peeved with how their name is spelled

Is this referring to the fact Kush doesn't like that people type "kus" when they should type cause? Because like the above bolded part, it is mafia who generally skim the thread looking for something to say and then misinterpret something unimportant (to the game). I seen it happen a lot.

##unvote
##vote: GiygaS

This is brillant.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 14 2015 22:15 GMT
#253
On December 15 2015 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been conserving my posts a little bit more as I had 1 page of posts already so I trying to limit myself a little bit now. But Koshi pretty much town for me atm. Also Damdred if you are here can you give me your thoughts on TT or other The smurf guy please?


I'm a bit behind tbh but my initial gut was town on Tt other idk yet
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 14 2015 22:18 GMT
#254
On December 15 2015 04:30 Koshi wrote:
Also. I think I should have some more transparity if I want to be the overwatch guy.


I think Rels is a good candidate for mafia because he is making excuses 10 hours in this game on page 9. Which is 6-7 pages into the game? I don't know how intense the other game is, but knowing how active rels is, I know he can keep up and say something interesting in this game. So the excuse looks to me like:

"Hi guys, here is a really great excuse so that I don't need to do anything that helps town while keeping my options open to come in the thread when I need to push mafia agenda"

LOL if you think I need excuse to play scum you're mistaken
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 14 2015 22:18 GMT
#255
On December 15 2015 07:01 Sukrit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2015 18:10 Sukrit wrote:
On December 14 2015 17:51 ritoky wrote:
after taking a shower and considering it. i might want to lynch tt over those posts.



Yeah I can actual feel you here. Like his post about hope to hear from these people was kinda off in a game that is less than 12 hours old. Kinda weird to me. Also his posts are asking about the obvious joke between LS and Damdred really felt forced.




So I make this post agreeing with ritoky about TT. And then Koshi makes almost the same post except I vote him and you call me out for it but not koshi?

I still dont like how you defended yourself for no reason either.



But Koshi, even though coming to the same conclusion about TT, went after giyga vs TT. He brought his own theory and evidence and decided to lynch Giyga over TT (which TT isn't even his back up lynch.) And here you also follow off of Ritoky's idea. Come to think about it, U later decided to post about it later instead of posing about it at the best time possible.

Also if you talking about defending myself over the LS/Damred miller thing and about Koshi. It was kinda brought up by the others. TT especially asked why i was quoting Koshi meta off of one game which I explain why later on to him.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 14 2015 22:23 GMT
#256
Did I ever say something about TT? Did I agree on TT being town? Dafuq I can't remember that. And what is this about Giyha vs TT? I never took a stance in that battle because I don't even remember it being a thing.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 14 2015 22:24 GMT
#257
I probably got that braincancer from seeing somebody think that the smurf was Onegu based solely on a +1 post. Even though Onegu would never post like that smurf.
I had a good night of sleep.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 14 2015 22:26 GMT
#258
On December 15 2015 07:23 Koshi wrote:
Did I ever say something about TT? Did I agree on TT being town? Dafuq I can't remember that. And what is this about Giyha vs TT? I never took a stance in that battle because I don't even remember it being a thing.


According to surkit you did. I think he said based off that post you called TT scum.

I just said you picked Giyga to lynch over TT (which is what he implied). Not that it was a Giyga vs TT bandwagon. Put the Vs there to show how you pick Giyga over TT. Prob could of been clearer Tbh
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 14 2015 22:27 GMT
#259
On December 15 2015 07:24 Koshi wrote:
I probably got that braincancer from seeing somebody think that the smurf was Onegu based solely on a +1 post. Even though Onegu would never post like that smurf.

<3
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
December 14 2015 22:27 GMT
#260
^ i even a bit confused i just tried to answer it at best i could
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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