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On November 19 2015 00:08 NocturneMage wrote:Good group of policy lynches I see here.  Could consider joining if my time in the newbie game ends or the game ends so I can torture all of you. On a serious note, I'm confused on the rules. The rules say KP is factional. But apparently there is a jailkeeper (which I learnt is the same thing as a town roleblocker???) which can block kp, a rolecop that can deliver kp....so I'm just a bit confused as to whether that is a mistake or the rolecop can do something I'm not aware of. I've never played in any games with a rolecop so I have no idea. Meh, maybe I should just stick to newbie games.
ou should play some normal to get the feel for bigger games.
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Shining is guilt tripping me  .... Oh temptaition
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Wellllll....
/in
maybe I'll be ok for one
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Pregame excuse I might be asleep if I'm scrum but will be awake if town.
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thing is he replaced in after hts in I believe so he should be willing to put up with hts in game
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I'd be ok with a slightly shorter day to get started
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On December 01 2015 02:38 kushm4sta wrote:
This new pre game excuse meta disgusts me.
pregame excuse.... We should all annoy kush cause he's a cool dude
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Well hello there strangers.
My name is Damdred and we need a clear direction in this thread, I am the hero that you guys have and need. This is the plan, we each are responsible for our own reads but also communicating them to the thread.
Firstly for the roles, nobody should talk about this besides an opinion going forward, if you are a named towny you should claim asap, it narrows down the pool that we lynch from and also gives us more to work with. however if you are the Vet do not claim unless absolutely necessary. If you are shot claim if you aren't shut the hell up. After you use your power claim straight away your findings if you are one shot obviously do not pussy foot away and give mafia the ability to cause town to second guess you. As such thank you for your time in reading this.
Secondly I am going to try to keep my posts as concise as possible but with as much read information in it as I can, I will attempt to update the thread every 10-15 posts with where I have people and will be able to answer why they are there, I implore each of you to make as many reads as you can and when questioned do not freak out.
Anyway lets have us a good game.
Super Town:
Damdred
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Yeah I should know better than to speak actual good advice into the game I suppose.
Boxers are innocent children, they shorten the lynch pool, they help the vig and the cop know who not to shoot into.
There is no down side for them to claim unless the mafia members are blue hunting n1 which is stupid anyway. And suspecting me for saying what is good advice is stupid.
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On December 01 2015 08:41 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 08:36 disformation wrote:On December 01 2015 08:27 Damdred wrote:
Well hello there strangers.
My name is Damdred and we need a clear direction in this thread, I am the hero that you guys have and need. This is the plan, we each are responsible for our own reads but also communicating them to the thread.
Firstly for the roles, nobody should talk about this besides an opinion going forward, if you are a named towny you should claim asap, it narrows down the pool that we lynch from and also gives us more to work with. however if you are the Vet do not claim unless absolutely necessary. If you are shot claim if you aren't shut the hell up. After you use your power claim straight away your findings if you are one shot obviously do not pussy foot away and give mafia the ability to cause town to second guess you. As such thank you for your time in reading this.
Secondly I am going to try to keep my posts as concise as possible but with as much read information in it as I can, I will attempt to update the thread every 10-15 posts with where I have people and will be able to answer why they are there, I implore each of you to make as many reads as you can and when questioned do not freak out.
Anyway lets have us a good game.
Super Town:
Damdred But are you the hero this town deserves?  Actually. This Damdred post looks somewhat ... I am fishing for the correct English word here... constructed? Did you plan/write that before the game started?
nope I wrote it as I got home from taking my wife to work.
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On December 01 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.
Disformation, why are you only bringing up Damdred's post now, and not right when he posted it?
Trfel might be mafia since LS clearly posted in the thread why he wouldn't be here till later.
Interesting...
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On December 01 2015 08:50 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 08:47 Damdred wrote:On December 01 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.
Disformation, why are you only bringing up Damdred's post now, and not right when he posted it? Trfel might be mafia since LS clearly posted in the thread why he wouldn't be here till later. Interesting... Okay, what the heck. First of all, if you think about it for a second, you can probably see what I was trying to do. You may not agree with my method, but you know me well enough to see it. Second, why would does this make me mafia in any way? Like, why does the fact that LightningStrike posted that he wouldn't be here at the start of the game have any bearing on my alignment?
I do know what you are trying to do, and if you are fishing you might want to try a different type of bait.
Secondly could be you don't care about reading the thread, and just trying to find someone to put suspicions on.
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You are an idiot but you are most likely town.
If you can't explain in a coherent way why I am mafia then obviously I am not.
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On December 01 2015 09:00 DoYouHas wrote:
I'm pretty happy with Damdred atm. With the exception of one point in his first post I feel like I've got the mind meld going with him... for now.
TLDR: you crazy trfel
I kinda like this guy ...
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Go on and give your scum team shining or who you have so far.
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Why is Palmar the worse looking one exactly though?
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Ummmm....
Your so dumb trfel that's not my scum meta at all.
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On December 01 2015 09:21 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 09:16 Damdred wrote:
Why is Palmar the worse looking one exactly though? Because there is no explanation for his read whatsoever. Fidei scumleans me so 3 minutes later, Palmar decides I'm 100% scum with no explanation.
I thought you had played with palmar before?
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On December 01 2015 09:30 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 09:27 The Shining wrote:On December 01 2015 09:17 Palmar wrote:On December 01 2015 09:13 The Shining wrote:
Fidei's scumlean is bad. No one but disfo and Trfel had posted at the time of my posts and I poked fun at the fact that throughout the history of my playing on TL, I don't normally play on Mondays and Tuesdays. Which is why I "went quiet." I don't normally have time to play on these days and I'll be out of here once again shortly. Fidei calling you out on something you actually did doesn't make him mafia. If you're town you should be considering, and possibly favoring, the option that he's just a townie with a wrong scumlean. Nothing he said was false. He literally took true information and made a lean on it. That's the most null thing you can do in mafia. On December 01 2015 09:13 The Shining wrote:
Palmar is bad for commenting on literally nothing up to this point but claiming I'm 100% scum. There are actual things going on in the thread but he's just trying to pick up off of Fidei's soft pushing on me to get me lynched. Out of Fidei and Palmar, Palmar is the worst looking one. I hadn't even read Fidei's post, I just came into the game, read the first page, then posted "Shining is 100% scum", turns out I mostly agree with Fidei, so free townread in the process! His expectations are unreal of me if he is town. He said I went quiet and yet here I am so I'm interested if his lean now goes away or if it becomes a hard scumread because I scumread him. Like there were actual things happening, like Damdred's big post directing blues, Rels finding DYH and Damdred suspicious, but his scumlean comes off on the one person who he probably expected to afk because it's Monday/Tuesday and who didn't say much of anything. And in the same post, he goes ahead and leaves the thread when he enters it. Your hard defense of Fidei so early is noted, though. Well, you went quiet and then suddenly popped out when two people called you scum... Plus your are going quite the OMGUS + hard defense mode. Def. not a fan so far, kinda remember better post from you last game. @Damdred: So you are saying that the post is constructed since you took quite some time writing it up, but started after the game started?
My wife was dropped off at work at 6:01 pm eastern time, my post was posted 3-5 minutes after I returned home. I wrote it in those 3-5 minutes.
I'm not exactly sure where you are going with this.
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I'm mulling over this shining situation and heres my take on it.
1) I think just meta wise that the general activity and the way shining is going about this makes him town.
- This is probably the least important point that i'm going to make but generally when shining is scum (even when he gets called out) he likes to be super background and not really interact unless he has to.
2) When hes scum he generally like I said before is pretty lurky without getting involved (besides catching up and recapping events)
- This is super important even though his early posts were pretty worthless when he saw things that he generally was interested in (even if it was about him) he immediately went in and tried to get things going on from his perspective.
3) His attack on Palmar I think is genuinely town indicative.
- Palmar is a hard target even for top townies, and while I think that shining is a good player as scum he generally attacks lower activity players, which fid could be an example of this. But his somewhat BM towards Palmar and his continued attack shows a clear lack of caring if he lives or dies. Which in shinings case actually is indicative of him being town.
4) I already said activity but I wanted to re interate that Shining does not really have connectivity to the internet on Mondays and Tuesdays, and he hates playing as scum. While its not super indicative I think ti does have some bearing on him to me.
Overall I think even though he probably is wrong about Palmar (i'm not super convinced either way), I think hes probably town even if its weak currently.
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Its just bad reasoning for why I sort of think Trfel is townish?
Like its really really to early for me to be sold on it, but the way trfel goes defensive and omgus instead of sort of buddying up to me and trying to change my mind that way made me think maybe its just town being dumb.
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On December 01 2015 09:52 Damdred wrote:
Its just bad reasoning for why I sort of think Trfel is townish?
Like its really really to early for me to be sold on it, but the way trfel goes defensive and omgus instead of sort of buddying up to me and trying to change my mind that way made me think maybe its just town being dumb.
like its really really really bad reasoning, but sort of makes me not want to lynch trfel at this moment
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Well what do you think about this Palmar,
Something that gives me pause on Trfel. he went through all that time to make that case on me and obviously was here (might of had to leave) but never cared enough to really push anyone talking at the time to comment on it?
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On December 01 2015 10:03 Palmar wrote:fuck - Posted a post that I can only explain as existing for the sake of posting
- Making a terrible OMGUS, the doubling down trying to explain it
- When explaining the OMGUS, calls fidei out for saying true things
- Misrepresents my questioning of his logic and motives as a hard defense of fidei
- Throws a fit when I pressure him just a little bit
can you at least read my post on the previous page on why I think shining is clear and talk to me about it?
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On December 01 2015 10:12 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 10:06 Damdred wrote:On December 01 2015 10:03 Palmar wrote:fuck - Posted a post that I can only explain as existing for the sake of posting
- Making a terrible OMGUS, the doubling down trying to explain it
- When explaining the OMGUS, calls fidei out for saying true things
- Misrepresents my questioning of his logic and motives as a hard defense of fidei
- Throws a fit when I pressure him just a little bit
can you at least read my post on the previous page on why I think shining is clear and talk to me about it? No, you're bad. I skimmed it, it reeked of badness.
And if i'm right? what will you say then?
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On December 01 2015 10:15 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 10:13 Damdred wrote:On December 01 2015 10:12 Palmar wrote:On December 01 2015 10:06 Damdred wrote:On December 01 2015 10:03 Palmar wrote:fuck - Posted a post that I can only explain as existing for the sake of posting
- Making a terrible OMGUS, the doubling down trying to explain it
- When explaining the OMGUS, calls fidei out for saying true things
- Misrepresents my questioning of his logic and motives as a hard defense of fidei
- Throws a fit when I pressure him just a little bit
can you at least read my post on the previous page on why I think shining is clear and talk to me about it? No, you're bad. I skimmed it, it reeked of badness. And if i'm right? what will you say then? TMI, mafia.
lol this is why I love palmar
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I'm pretty sure that shinny is town and a horrible lynch tbh.
Onto that trfel post I don't mind it so much, its a bit odd in one respect that if trfel was scum he would want stupid arguments in thread and me tilting not being calm. That's total wifom and not worth talking about.
overall I think its not quite indicative either way but its a good sentiment
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Hi ls
There are quite a few people who are giving me town feels currently. However I'll hold on to morning.
night
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Your missing the point of that post why it is non alignment indicative, he's apologizing but he's not buddying me.
I'll answer all questions in a sec
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On December 02 2015 00:06 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 23:49 Damdred wrote:
Your missing the point of that post why it is non alignment indicative, he's apologizing but he's not buddying me.
I'll answer all questions in a sec The weird thing is not about the apologizing vs buddying. It's about attacking you with stupid arguments. Time A: Trfel is attacking with arguments that are wrong and maybe stupid if you're town. You say Trfel is town for attacking you like that. Time B: You say scum!Trfel would attack you with stupid arguments, so he might be town. Something is wrong here.
No time b isn't exactly what said at all?
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On December 01 2015 18:16 Trfel wrote:LightningStrike:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 12:18 LightningStrike wrote:
DYH seems townlean he actually tried to comment on stuff that is relevant to the game. Specifically, what comments did he make that were relevant to the game, and why do they make him town? Damdred: (and PLEASE, no one else answer this, don't be stupid...):I'm sorry, I know you don't want to talk about this, but it's driving me insane. Hypothetical scenario 1: Trfel makes a post an hour into a mafia game casting suspicions on Joe for not having posted. Hypothetical scenario 2: Trfel makes a post an hour into a mafia game casting suspicions on Bob for not having posted. Bob said before the game that he would not be present for the first few hours of the game. What difference do you see between these two scenarios?
Palmar seems like obvious town. There's one thing I hope to check eventually, though. I kind of want to lynch The Shining, but that seems like a very bad idea right now. He's put in a bunch of effort (regardless of alignment) on a busy day for him. Most of the problems that I have with his posts are wording, tone, and a bit of consistency, which aren't the most reliable. I do feel that his posting somewhat fits mafia motivation, but I'm nowhere near confident enough to be happy lynching him now. I feel that The Shining's alignment will become very clear with a bit more time. I still think that Damdred is mafia, but I remembered that the past several times I've played with Damdred (both town) I've always thought he was mafia I'm guessing that I have some preconceived notions for what I expect Damdred to do, and whenever he doesn't behave exactly as I would expect him to, I think he's mafia. And it seems to be very hard for me to separate this from mafia motivations... Did anyone else find Damdred's townread of The Shining a bit off? Palmar commented on why the third point is invalid, which I completely agree with.
Of course I see a difference, but what was my play?
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On December 02 2015 00:15 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 00:12 Damdred wrote:On December 02 2015 00:06 Rels wrote:On December 01 2015 23:49 Damdred wrote:
Your missing the point of that post why it is non alignment indicative, he's apologizing but he's not buddying me.
I'll answer all questions in a sec The weird thing is not about the apologizing vs buddying. It's about attacking you with stupid arguments. Time A: Trfel is attacking with arguments that are wrong and maybe stupid if you're town. You say Trfel is town for attacking you like that. Time B: You say scum!Trfel would attack you with stupid arguments, so he might be town. Something is wrong here. No time b isn't exactly what said at all? Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 12:47 Damdred wrote:
Onto that trfel post I don't mind it so much, its a bit odd in one respect that if trfel was scum he would want stupid arguments in thread and me tilting not being calm. That's total wifom and not worth talking about.
overall I think its not quite indicative either way but its a good sentiment That's what I understand of that post. "Trfel's apology is WIFOM, but I think if he was scum he would continue attacking me with stupid arguments to make me tilt." Do I understand wrong ?
Partially yes, its all semantics though and shades of the same thing.
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Let me explain in some semblance of an answer.
Trfel uses stupid arguments early to try to convinced thread that damdred is scum. (I use stupid here not in offense to trfel)
Time passes, damdred town leans him for the stupid argument.
Later trfel decides his argument is partially stupid so apologizes for it but states he still doesn't think damdred is totally town.
Scum trfel doesn't like giving up things and fights for his stupid arguments. I know this is wifom so I font think its indicative.
Its different if only slightly
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Man I remember why I quit now, people are dumb and I just want to bm them to the ground.
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Ok so,
I'm pretty sure rels is dumbtown doing that stupid tunnel thing he likes to do that Tina told him is bad. *glares*
shining is town
think fid is town
I'm town hood town circle for me. Though lots of dumb dumb in game so far.
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On December 02 2015 01:45 disformation wrote:Washing machine running. Here we go: Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 09:57 Damdred wrote:On December 01 2015 09:52 Damdred wrote:
Its just bad reasoning for why I sort of think Trfel is townish?
Like its really really to early for me to be sold on it, but the way trfel goes defensive and omgus instead of sort of buddying up to me and trying to change my mind that way made me think maybe its just town being dumb. like its really really really bad reasoning, but sort of makes me not want to lynch trfel at this moment Yes, it is really really really bad reasoning, especially since scum!Trfel did something very similar in NSM17. In that game geript called out scum!Trfel on his case on VE and instead of trying to buddying up to geript scum!Trfel proceeds to try to get ppl suspicious of geript (even with a short case later on) and tries to emit a frustrated town vibe. If you see something different in this game, that I missed please feel free to point it out.  That being said I, too think that Trfel's apology has a very towny tone to it and that it doesn't look like something he did in NSM17... Still doesn't really explain where your super bad reasoning comes from after you just played a game with scum!Trfel, where he tried similar things. xD
I wasn't in the game at that point remember young one. Plus he was trying to hard defend a partner so bit different he just comes out of gate attacking.
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On December 02 2015 02:24 Trfel wrote:
I realized that DoYouHas' activity fits a mafia motivation fairly strongly, assuming that Damdred is town. And still fits somewhat if Damdred is mafia.
this is bad and you should know why
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On December 02 2015 02:28 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:17 Damdred wrote:On December 02 2015 01:45 disformation wrote:Washing machine running. Here we go: On December 01 2015 09:57 Damdred wrote:On December 01 2015 09:52 Damdred wrote:
Its just bad reasoning for why I sort of think Trfel is townish?
Like its really really to early for me to be sold on it, but the way trfel goes defensive and omgus instead of sort of buddying up to me and trying to change my mind that way made me think maybe its just town being dumb. like its really really really bad reasoning, but sort of makes me not want to lynch trfel at this moment Yes, it is really really really bad reasoning, especially since scum!Trfel did something very similar in NSM17. In that game geript called out scum!Trfel on his case on VE and instead of trying to buddying up to geript scum!Trfel proceeds to try to get ppl suspicious of geript (even with a short case later on) and tries to emit a frustrated town vibe. If you see something different in this game, that I missed please feel free to point it out. That being said I, too think that Trfel's apology has a very towny tone to it and that it doesn't look like something he did in NSM17... Still doesn't really explain where your super bad reasoning comes from after you just played a game with scum!Trfel, where he tried similar things. xD I wasn't in the game at that point remember young one. Plus he was trying to hard defend a partner so bit different he just comes out of gate attacking. Ah crap you replaced into that game D2... right. Well, the defending part came on later, but so did the actual omgus parts onto geript. Took a look at Trfel's filter from that game again and at first he was trying to ignore geript until around when that defending part happened. So okay, there is a difference. Still, wouldn't completely want to completely rule out a possible OMGUS by scum!Trfel since, that doesn't seem to be outside his range, but I can agree on that being rather unlikely especially this early D1.
exactly it still is really weak but when you are trying to seperste people into pools and gain perspective sometimes weak and bad are ok.
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Why would scum kill kush?
Who in the game has played with kush extensively?
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Besides me anyway, id wager almost no one
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On December 02 2015 03:53 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:28 Damdred wrote:On December 02 2015 02:24 Trfel wrote:
I realized that DoYouHas' activity fits a mafia motivation fairly strongly, assuming that Damdred is town. And still fits somewhat if Damdred is mafia. this is bad and you should know why I took a hard look at DYH's filter again, obviously you aren't talking about the progression on yourself, but where you are drawing a contrast between say, his activity and, say, kushm4sta's? (LS and Shining have had obvious RL excuses, so I'll leave them out.)
that's a good thought and glad someone picked up on it. There are several people who are fitting into the same activity patterns so not sure why it would necessarily make x mafia over y.
However there is another bad part to it and that's u flipped association which isn't as important.
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Kush is kush. He's a bit more lurky as scum but more cocky as town.
His meta is easily interchangeable though...
disfor are you my town buddy this game?
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On December 02 2015 06:47 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 06:36 Trfel wrote:On December 02 2015 06:11 Palmar wrote:
This is a shitty read, but it might actually be brilliant.
Shining said he'd leave yesterday when arguing with me, yet he kept coming back to the thread. If he is mafia he has already realized I'm an obnoxious bastard who pushes shit without mercy. He created an excuse for himself to leave the thread and then didn't use it.
That drive to make me understand that I'm being dumb as shit is actually kinda townie. When I think about it I definitely don't want to lynch Shining today. I note that this is very similar to what Damdred was saying earlier. And Palmar said it was stupid then. Not a new realization at all, Palmar That's not at all similar to what damdred said. Damdred's shit was bad.
Love youto baby, I'm glad you agree with me being right.
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On December 02 2015 06:27 Trfel wrote:
I don't know how to play this game with Damdred. He's not scumreading me, that I can tell, but he's absolutely refusing to work with me.
The sad thing is that I think Damdred is capable of doing this as town. However, he was actually quite reasonable with me last game, where I was playing extremely obnoxiously. I don't know why he would be willing to work with me there and not here if he's town.
Not exactly sure how I'm refusing to work with anyone when I've answered everything asked of me to carrying degrees.
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I'm so confused how I'm ignoring trfel or what not. I've answered basically everything,he's asked me at some point, I am baffled.
And not sure Mooney ill have to talk to the guy and lady about it.
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Could someone help me, every question trfel has asked me to my knowledge I've answered either to him sort o some one else who asked the same thing.
Like it's beyond baffling.
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Disinformation
Eels
Damdred
Shining
Palmar
Leans
Trfel
Fid (falling)
Ls
Honestly it's notso bad so far even though I've read 0 filters.
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##vote fidel86
I'll answer trfel after coffee
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I'm not so sure moosey is mafia.
I've given other reads
however I think that LS is mafia and I should be sheeped on this.
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Sure LS usually even if he is wrong is a strongish prescense in the thread giving his opinion and trying to get people to interact with him while he gives scum reads.
He lacks real reads in the thread, the few he has given have been little substance. The one scum read I can tell in his filter was Trfel that he has totally backed off of. He isn't looking to push anyone he is just existing.
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Yes I've read his filter and its totally NAI.
He only really shows his alignment N1 and beyond, its just how he plays. He isn't worth a d1 lynch when 3/4 of the time he will flip town doing this.
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Well he likes playing town with me even if I have been afk for large portions of the day.
There is no reason to put something that is NAI and make it out to be like he is lock scum when it just isn't so, if he flips scum it will be because of something else.
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So....you are policy lynching him
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Sadly that's just how he and a lot of the newer players play now Palmar. Its really annoying and sadly moosey is actually a good player when he decides to play, something about keeping a clean scum meta.
I think hes worth a power role move perhaps at night but I wouldn't lynch him today.
What do you think of LS Palmar.
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It was mainly a pressure vote (which really wasn't even a real vote no vote thread)
Fid is sort of a mystery to me, I like several of the things hes saying but his general lack of activity is indicative of his scum/lurkiness that I've come to expect.
His recent list posting looked really towny to me though, so hes still a town lean but I wouldn't sleep on him.
I really encourage everyone to read and vote for LS. If I have to case him I will but i'd rather people make there own decisions in life.
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On December 03 2015 06:30 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 06:29 Damdred wrote:
Sadly that's just how he and a lot of the newer players play now Palmar. Its really annoying and sadly moosey is actually a good player when he decides to play, something about keeping a clean scum meta.
I think hes worth a power role move perhaps at night but I wouldn't lynch him today.
What do you think of LS Palmar. I haven't read him. Also, we have Onegu to deal with, our vigi can't shoot two people.
Thing that moosey will start playing n1-d2 in my experience
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Honestly Palmar I feel pretty strongly about LS I know its a bit of work, but just do me this favor and look at him its 2 pages of filter if that.
He has 0 scum reads, he town reads people for little reason showing no fear of me or you who he generally has a great deal of respect/fear for our scum games.
Has absolutely no scum reads, has no positions in the thread.
Just see if i'm right/wrong and tell me and then if you think i'm so dead wrong we can talk about maybe lynching kush/onegu
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On December 03 2015 06:37 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 06:32 Palmar wrote:On December 03 2015 06:23 Trfel wrote:
Like, this isn't a policy lynch at all.
MoosyDoosy isn't being lynched because he's bad. MoosyDoosy isn't being lynched because he's useless. MoosyDoosy isn't being lynched because he's obnoxious.
MoosyDoosy is being lynched because his play has too many contradictions and has no possible town mindset behind it, while it fits perfectly with mafia motivation of contributing as little as possible, in this case relying on meta to avoid the Day 1 lynch. Explain the bolded, I couldn't find any contradictions in it aside from the grumpy/happy. Why are you saying there are too many? Also when he says he will play, and sort of pretends to play, but isn't actually playing the game/isn't actually invested in the game. Two major contradictions like that in a short filter is pretty telling. These aren't logic contradictions or read changes, mindset contradictions are much more powerful.
So the last two games that I've watched where moosey either martyr'd or just didnt' care/post and got lynched he was scum right?
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But we are two lazy people Palmar, who both hate work ....
Fine
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On December 03 2015 06:42 Damdred wrote:But we are two lazy people Palmar, who both hate work .... Fine
Oh hou were talking to Trfel I thought you were poking me alas, I can be lazy until you respond now.
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On December 03 2015 06:45 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 06:35 Palmar wrote:
I dislike Fidei being a robot, I don't trust robots. To me, his tone is NAI, he was like that in the town games I've had with him and as well in SOTW 2, what concerns me more is why he's voting Moosy now when he has LS as mafia in his list post. He's saying he's not confident enough in the LS read, but the read itself is pretty fleshed out? There was also another post of his that I didn't like either...
I like this point, one thing I noticed when fid rolled scum with myself rels in sotw he liked to bus a bit ^_-....bad me wants to make unflipped associations
but we will find out in an hour or so.
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Let us not be scared of the Damdred being correct.
My flock has many colors and many forms, you are all welcomed to follow me as I gently lead you to victory.
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On December 03 2015 06:53 The Shining wrote:Damdred before I sheep you, can you explain something to me? You had fidei on one of your earlier town lists. Then you had him just above LS on your next list after that, saying he was dropping. Then in one of your last few posts regarding him, you said he was still a town lean. So that 2nd post: Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 09:36 Damdred wrote:
Disinformation
Eels
Damdred
Shining
Palmar
Leans
Trfel
Fid (falling)
Ls
Honestly it's notso bad so far even though I've read 0 filters. Are those leans weak town leans or scum leans?
These were also gut reads mind you where I had just glanced at posts 0 filters read at that point. They were slightly town leans.
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Also if ls flips scum (which I think he does at this point) Palmar and Damdred lock town.
And I like that world.
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Let me juts simply state why LS is scum so people will go yep sheep the damdred.
1) Little to no reads
2) No scum hunting
3) Not really involved in the thread as it goes forward, really side lined
4) Has no scum reads at all even states as much
5) His trfel progression is very strange
Good lynch indeed
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Sure shining,
before we go down this rabbit hole where you are trying to vet me. Remember we have 56 minutes before lynch roughly and you need to comment on what i'm saying on LS. That is the most important thing right now.
Fid was a town read earlier in the day for me almost right out of the gate, his lack of activity caused him to drop for me almost out of my town reads. He still hadn't done anything when I woke up so I "voted" him as I didn't really vote in the vote thread i'm not sure you could call it that however. It was pressure to see what he would do.
His posts afterwards as I've caught up have seemed not so bad his read post I liked to some extent.
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On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore?
Well I sometimes do but I figured a mini case based on what I thought rather than a larger case that was harder to fact check in this limited time would be better.
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I'll e back in 30 or so, please at least fact check what I said about LS and sheep me. I think hes a good shot at scum unless he pukes some town rainbows while i'm gone.
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There is a major difference between someone who is angry and someone who just uses capslock, wouldn't you agree?
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Look at that post, Damdred is a idiot and only pushes mafia on him when he is mafia.
Then he votes Moosey to survive instead of doing anything to survive?
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If you flip VT like you claim LS you only have yourself to blame, you posted no real reads didn't hunt scum now you aren't even trying to be helpful to the thread.
I'm willing to move to Kush or DY if we have the people though as I don't like there switch
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On December 03 2015 07:57 LightningStrike wrote:
If I get lynched DAMDRED IS FUCKING MAFIA LOOKING TO SWITCH WAGONS OFF HIS PARTNER
Now this is just super fucking weird.
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LS has basically mod confirmed himself as town.
That's pretty shitty but we have to work with it I guess.
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LS freaked out after deadline thinking he got lynched and said GG i'm VT.
It was as deadline hit or a few seconds after, so he thought he was lynched.
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It happened 14 minutes ago which is at 6:00 pm eastern or exactly at deadline.
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Either way its nto worth talking about its over my opinon was hes basically confirmed himself town.
Oh well
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Yeah.
Damdred
LS
Shining
Rels
Palmar
That's my strong town circle.
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Trfel I honestly don't know what you want me to say, I interacted with you when it was important eod.
You were obviously fishing early d1 to try to drag something out a sort of trap if you would, but you went off the rails when I put my own trap around you. Which resulted in your town read. Though your over reaction about it over all is sort of concerning.
The LS thing isn't really alignment indicative, trying to save your life goes both ways. LS is town though so shrug.
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On December 03 2015 08:29 LightningStrike wrote:Damdred you accept my apology? I sorry what I did to you this game
I wasn't even mad when it happened so no need to apologize.
Though Rsoultin probably would call me scum for that.
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Not sure what I think of fid hes what he is, I had a town lean.
And its LS, its obvious he thinks hes dead the way hes went off the rails. It was right at deadline, pretty much confirmed it.
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Not sure why you have such a chip on your shoulder this game Trfel, nobody has expressed any disdain for you as far as I know.
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Right now I'm most suspicious of Damdred, NocturneMage/MoosyDoosy, The Shining, Fidei86, and Rels (in no particular order). There's been a lot that happened since I last did serious analysis, though.
this is a really really strange list of people.
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I haven't read any of the game since I went to bed, I'm universally town read ya? Then I'll catch up after night post unless I'm scum read I guess.
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Like I said I'm not going to have time to read up before deadline.
I have the reasons I scummed ls in my filter several times.
You so silly though disform.
Also trfel since you are trying to be better at the game, you are using incomplete meta to try to prove someone is scum... While I applaud your tenacity show me something tangible ie actions from this game that are scum motivated.
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Its pretty obvious no matter what I say that your conclusion I'm mafia gor bad reasons are going to stick.
And you really haven't moosey hasn't done anything this game and is 100% a coin flip, nm will be more readable. But your case is founded on bad meta basically.
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I'm not saying that slot can't be scum but I don't think its as lock as you portray it.
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My axum read is in my filter, if it was so bad at the time why did people hop on?
if the only reason that I posted was ls had no scum reads I could understand it but that's a gross misrepresentation of the points against ls.
Also lol to me and moosey on a team together, damdred the scum partner who will get himself scum read to save his team mates. That's the reputation I have boys
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On December 04 2015 06:10 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 06:09 Damdred wrote:
My axum read is in my filter, if it was so bad at the time why did people hop on?
if the only reason that I posted was ls had no scum reads I could understand it but that's a gross misrepresentation of the points against ls.
Also lol to me and moosey on a team together, damdred the scum partner who will get himself scum read to save his team mates. That's the reputation I have boys Man I really hope we have a cop and he checks you.
would be a wasted check, I'm 100% readable by the vast majority of this site.
My filter is pretty good just because people get stuck on little things that don't make people scum....
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On December 04 2015 06:12 Rels wrote:Can you answer this ? Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 22:25 Rels wrote:On December 03 2015 22:19 Palmar wrote:
And my alignment is obvious because I just don't play this way as mafia. Even if it isn't obvious to you right now, just try to lynch me later in the game and it will become.
If you haven't played much with me before: I do not like being lynched, I will generally put a lot of effort into not being lynched because I consider whoever gets lynched to be the worst player in the game. This means that I am usually very, very active in defending myself when people want to lynch me. I should never, ever be vigi shot, it is objectively a bad play. What way do you play as mafia then ?
Palmar is probably town....but he's a good scum player.... He plays with a plan in mind as scum.
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None of that makes me scrum, which is sorta funny but oh well.
I need lot a more from you nm usually we are great town bros
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I think it's town that's just wrong,..
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Kinda silly saying I've been malicious when I've been pretty nice this game.
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Rels you should stop picking on little tgings/rsoultin
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Nm and disformation I would like to talk to both of you on Skype or something soon to talk about game and some things I saw.
Otherwise the game was largely on point. Mafia played decently for the hand they were dealt. And fid inability to shoot probably hurt scum.
Also shooting him super hurt your chances you would of won a 1 v 1 with him.
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