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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 02:26 GMT
#1160
never got to what I needed to but it's almost 2:30am. good night.

possible scum: fidei, ls, trfel
re-examine: dyh (he's mafia and/or bussing), palmar
lynching her with fire: half the scum
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 02:28 GMT
#1161
ebwop (dyh - IS he mafia and/or bussing?)
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 14:16 GMT
#1203
There is not a snowball's chance in hell Daniele is town. Just vote her and be done with it. I'm on page 25 and I'm trying to fully catch up between seminars here.

Trfel is either mafia or insane and I'm leaning towards Mafia. Does a Trfel/HTS team make sense, that is another question.

LS is mafia because his filter is trash and knowing that mafia HTS modconfirmed herself in her first student game (as town) and knowing firsthand the quality of her coaching and knowing how intelligent she is (both in game and in life) it is EXTREMELY LIKELY she coached him to modconfirm himself.

There is a reasonable basis I think in the votes, I know I previously looked at HTS position from town LS but it's just as likely with Mafia LS, she would have been one of the last on LS which indicates a bus.

Like I said she is a weasel as mafia, she motivates her teammates she will absolutely coach LS to pull that shit - she did it herself.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 14:18 GMT
#1205
Just put Daniele out of her misery. Why are people (besides Trfel) making this difficult on themselves, fuck if I knew.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 14:21 GMT
#1209
LS you are in the same boat as her you are doing dick all this game. Dick all.

I asked you and so did Shining for reads, anything to sort your alignment and the only thing either of us got last night was a bunch of non alignment indicative bullshit that got us nowhere.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 14:24 GMT
#1212
To be honest she isn't going to post at all today, so for those of you looking at HTS do not eval her on being afk. Earliest she will return to anything TL is probably tomorrow and she's hosting a game in progress I think?

She is getting slightly better but she is putting herself first.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 14:26 GMT
#1213
On December 04 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:
I actually think an LS Dani team makes a hell of a lot of sense here. LS has given us no reason post lynch to think he's anything other than town (deadline thing is terrible). Dani is in the thread desperately trying to open the door to his non-lynch, for no apparent reason, and despite the fact SHE IS VOTING FOR HIM.

The deadline thing is great. LS is almost confirmed town.


No. I thought this at first but I have a reasonable argument against this. I realise it is pre flip association but this becomes more critical once Dani flips.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 14:30 GMT
#1214
James your analysis of me is spot on but you know her and my knowledge of her well enough (based on how much time you two play dota together, sigh fuck dota seriously) that what you are saying can come from either alignment.

At least I'm lynching a dota player today
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 14:31 GMT
#1215
I have another seminar right now so I'll be back. I'm on mobile for awhile today.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 15:21 GMT
#1239
There was quite a bit of discussion regarding DYH bussing HTS - he has voted her. I would analyse how he approached the discussion prior to him voting her.

I had to prompt him to actually vote her, that is about the only thing that I can call into question how much he believed in voting her.

Tbf I saw his shit right as I replaced in. His arguments were similar if not identical to mine, mine were based more on out of game information and some meta/prior game understanding of her.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 15:25 GMT
#1245
I also heavily believe LS is Mafia. He's going out after Dani.

If Dani flips town, I am giving her my next two weeks' salary and I'll take a mislynch because I am that fucking bad at understanding someone I know extremely well in real life.

There is zero fucking chance she is town. Zero.

Rels, I can understand you being hesitant because I'm not being "analytical" but this is HTS we are talking about here. She is a weasel when she is Mafia.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 15:27 GMT
#1246
On December 05 2015 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Do I need to die for your sins james?


No one is sinning here. This is not a moral argument. This is a logical argument.

What are you trying to tell us with meta? You aren't doing dick all with a list of links.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 15:46 GMT
#1259
On December 05 2015 00:30 LightningStrike wrote:
NM read my past games please? It will make you understand me as a player better O_o I had linked you some of my past games(including all my scum games):
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 23:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Ugh I couldn't be assed to be coached esp in my last scum where I got coached by Bill to lynch WGS(wherebugsgo) O_o
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=LightningStrike
here are more scum games you can check and some town games for you to check out Alex:
Scum games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=LightningStrike
Some town games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483087-newbie-student-mafia-viii?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=LightningStrike


This does not answer my fundamental concern. HTS is a fucking fantastic motivator of coachees as either alignment and when she is mafia it is FUCKING PROVEN SHE MOTIVATES TEAMMATES TO VICTORY REGARDLESS OF TRACK RECORD AS MAFIA. She uses whiskey, she has leadership to pull her teammates together.

In her first scum game her roleblocker almost crashed out. She spent fucking 2 hours in QT keeping him in the game and carried her team. In her most previous game as Mafia, she replaces in and immediately comes with a plan for her remaining scummate (they lost a scummer day one) who from my understanding reading that game and respective scum qt (when I was Mafia in newbie 13) is generally a poor scum player.

You and her from what I can tell generally have a very good relationship with each other. Therefore my argument of her being able to motivate ANYONE is valid.

Even so there is a shittonne of evidence outside her meta that indicates you are mafia.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 15:49 GMT
#1262
and 2/3s of LS' post is (poorly explained) meta. Someone kill me please. And I see Rels is shooting part of that down already.

Why is Palmar town in your own words?
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 15:54 GMT
#1264
On December 05 2015 00:48 LightningStrike wrote:
What if I told you I am town and flip town?


You can do that as either alignment. You haven't done dick all to show you are town.

If you flip town then I'll probably look into Fidei/DYH/possible bussers but not before I read the rest of the thread.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 16:01 GMT
#1268
On December 05 2015 00:48 Fidei86 wrote:
Alex is there anything at all that gives you pause on your read of Dani?


From a personal viewpoint? No.

From a gameplay standpoint? No. I've tried my best here to gauge her using as parallel situation as possible from both alignments. I have no understanding of how Rels fails to see how my thinking isn't analytical but I guess I can't win with everyone.

I obviously learnt from newbie 14 I can't convince people for shit and this is my first non-newbie game so it looks like I have a ways to go on this.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 16:04 GMT
#1269
On December 05 2015 00:56 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 00:54 NocturneMage wrote:
On December 05 2015 00:48 LightningStrike wrote:
What if I told you I am town and flip town?


You can do that as either alignment. You haven't done dick all to show you are town.

If you flip town then I'll probably look into Fidei/DYH/possible bussers but not before I read the rest of the thread.

What about Trfel ? Palmar ?


Those too. Obviously not leaving anyone out. I'm just thinking most likely but I had to look into question whether a Trfel/HTS scumteam made sense. At the very least he's townread her for bad reasons.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 16:06 GMT
#1272
I am stepping away from the game again.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 17:39 GMT
#1281
Rels my apologies, I did not see you had voted for Dani. I retract what I said about you not understanding me.

I felt I was approaching asshole territory so I stepped away.

Going to try and finish reading the thread when I get home.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 04 2015 17:40 GMT
#1282
On December 05 2015 01:19 disformation wrote:
I think HtS is null at best.
Since NM is starting to gain a bunch of townie brownies and I believe that his read on HtS is godtier, HtS has a pretty high chance of flipping scum.


????????????????????????

This seems contradictory?
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