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Palmar
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On December 01 2015 12:22 MoosyDoosy wrote: I’ll be honest and say I love these “Moosy is useless but it’s NAI!” “Moosy is a weird af player, can’t read him now!”  My name must spread far and wide.Like taking pride in this shit is basically the hallmark of a person too dumb to really play mafia. | ||
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Palmar
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On December 03 2015 06:29 Damdred wrote: Sadly that's just how he and a lot of the newer players play now Palmar. Its really annoying and sadly moosey is actually a good player when he decides to play, something about keeping a clean scum meta. I think hes worth a power role move perhaps at night but I wouldn't lynch him today. What do you think of LS Palmar. I haven't read him. Also, we have Onegu to deal with, our vigi can't shoot two people. | ||
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Palmar
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On December 03 2015 06:23 Trfel wrote: Like, this isn't a policy lynch at all. MoosyDoosy isn't being lynched because he's bad. MoosyDoosy isn't being lynched because he's useless. MoosyDoosy isn't being lynched because he's obnoxious. MoosyDoosy is being lynched because his play has too many contradictions and has no possible town mindset behind it, while it fits perfectly with mafia motivation of contributing as little as possible, in this case relying on meta to avoid the Day 1 lynch. Explain the bolded, I couldn't find any contradictions in it aside from the grumpy/happy. Why are you saying there are too many? | ||
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On December 03 2015 06:35 Damdred wrote: Thing that moosey will start playing n1-d2 in my experience Ok so wanna kill kush or onegu instead? | ||
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Palmar
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On December 03 2015 06:37 Trfel wrote: Also when he says he will play, and sort of pretends to play, but isn't actually playing the game/isn't actually invested in the game. Two major contradictions like that in a short filter is pretty telling. These aren't logic contradictions or read changes, mindset contradictions are much more powerful. That was pre-game though. Nah, I'm going to vote something else. | ||
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Palmar
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On December 03 2015 06:39 Trfel wrote: I give up. Don't even know what I can do about this. Marvellosity told me what I needed to do to improve my mafia play, I tried it this game, with no results. Maybe my playstyle is just too different from everyone else's so that I can't actually play mafia any more. Maybe I just need to sheep people all the time like I used to. No you need to just say things that make sense to the people you're talking to. Half the skill in mafia is to recognize your crowd and appeal to it. Being right and unable to convince people you are makes you just as terrible as someone who is wrong all the time. | ||
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Palmar
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On December 03 2015 06:40 Trfel wrote: Palmar, take a look at LightningStrike, but I'm not sure that I would trust Damdred. If you avoid lynching MoosyDoosy because Damdred said so, I'll be extremely displeased. No, it's more of an internal fight. I have two conflicting goals and I don't know how to proceed. 1) I want to lynch useless shit people just because I don't want to play with them. vs 2) I want to actually win the game so it's technically better to pray these baddies get shot or checked while trying to lynch mafia. I do not believe your case for Moosy being mafia. I think it doesn't say much about his alignment. His filter is terrible, but it's not mafia terrible, at least not to me. It's just plain terrible. I will, however, look at LS like damdy asked me to. | ||
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Palmar
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On December 03 2015 06:38 Damdred wrote: Honestly Palmar I feel pretty strongly about LS I know its a bit of work, but just do me this favor and look at him its 2 pages of filter if that. He has 0 scum reads, he town reads people for little reason showing no fear of me or you who he generally has a great deal of respect/fear for our scum games. Has absolutely no scum reads, has no positions in the thread. Just see if i'm right/wrong and tell me and then if you think i'm so dead wrong we can talk about maybe lynching kush/onegu Ugh Idk, LS is definitely a bit strange this game. I hate his comment about how marv or I would be calling him town here. I would have thought he knows by now why marv and I can townread him so easily sometimes. also, his list post was just a bit too thorough for that state of the game. I don't recall him having so many relatively firm opinions early, but again, maybe it's just the fact that I haven't played with him for a while. I'm going to dump my vote on him and see what happens. | ||
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On December 03 2015 06:48 The Shining wrote: No he wasn't. He was almost lynched. And you had perfect info from the start of the game as scum. You also pulled this woe is me, no one is listening to me stunt last game. If there was anyone else competing for the lynch with Moosy right now, Id say you were trying to protect a scum partner. Looking at Moosys filter, it looks bad but its nowhere near enough to be 100% sure he's scum like you are. Wait Shining, do you think Trfel is 100% scum? | ||
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I'd be building one if I had one (I tried to summarize my concerns about shining last night). I just don't quite know what I want to do right now. | ||
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On December 03 2015 07:02 Trfel wrote: I've done so, perhaps it was too simple for you to consider it a case. You didn't agree, and I don't think that I can change your mind, so I won't try. Do you agree with Damdred on LS? | ||
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game solved? | ||
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I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it. | ||
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On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote: Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this. Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch. I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well. I know this?? That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that. | ||
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Did LS claim yet? | ||
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On December 03 2015 07:53 Rels wrote: You said "DYH is a good lynch". DYH made two posts since: Thoughts ?? I also said I misread one of his posts. I don't really care. LS is a fine lynch. DYH is being shit, but so are multiple other players. | ||
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