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On December 10 2015 02:16 Trfel wrote:
Disformation is making me laugh so much XD
And I think that it makes him even more mafia. I get the impression that he's focused on having fun here, primarily, instead of trying to lynch mafia, which while this is a great approach and should be the approach that everyone has all the time, isn't something I expected to see from disformation. Could be very wrong on this, though, but I don't care to find out.
Glad to be of service. But did you forget last game N1 when I was defending myself from moosydoosy and told him something along the lines of:
"if you repeat that [saying "disformation is scum"] three times while doing a naked handstand in front of a mirror the mighty fairy ticktoc [who was hosting the game] will descend from the heavens and gift me a shiny mafia role pm wrapped in rainbows."?
That was the same post I started to call moosydoosy sweetheart and cupcake. That post was dope as hell, if you ask me.
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So back to work: FF has a 5 page filter and the last page of that is kinda useless imo.
Trying to look at his interactions and sfuff:
A study of the social behaviour and interactions of a wild Fecalfeast
Derived from this studies I hope to establish how a wild Fecalfeast goes about in selecting his mating partners, by observing behaviour patterns.
Upon arriving at the scene FF can be seen to be very engaging and conversing with Trfel, LightningStrike and Damdred. He seems especially interested in Trfel's filter and starts to dig around in that, with his sharp claws (i hope sharp claws are metal enough).
Note that he randomly soft defends me on some very minor point here:
On December 03 2015 09:16 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2015 16:42 Trfel wrote:On December 01 2015 08:49 disformation wrote:On December 01 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Hm, LightningStrike hasn't posted at all yet. Very suspicious, I would have expected him to be really excited for this game since he hasn't played in a while.
Disformation, why are you only bringing up Damdred's post now, and not right when he posted it? Tired as hell.  When I first read it I was like kinda amused by the hero thing, triggering my immediate reaction (the first post). Then I read it again and thought that it was a kinda unusual thing for Damdred to post and remembered that I was criticized for a very similar thing (over constructed first post shortly after the start of the game) in my first game here. So I asked him the same question I was asked. The advise itself is probably valid though. Wait a second, disformation... You've only rolled town on TL, correct? So if you were town and someone questioned you for a "constructed" post, then why would you ask someone else about this? What did you hope to get out of your question? Based on Damdred's answers, do you have a conclusion now? Not a bad point on disform at face value but if disform wasn't sure of his play before and has since learned that constructed posts are scummy, what's the problem calling out something he has learned to be generally scummy?
But does he do so because he already is my partner, wishes to buddy me or simply wants something minor to talk about? Evidence not conclusive at this point.
Notice how he approaches Trfel, when Trfel seems to be kinda frustrated and "out of it". Like our Fecalfeast here is trying to say "Everything is alright, I'm going to read your posts and we are going to be best buddies forever!".
After throwing out some suspicions in the direction of NM he then starts with his fallout comments and attempts to withdraw himself from the rest of the pack.
After that he shifts his suspicions towards Fidei86 and Trfel, away from NM. Does push a bit on Fidei, but only very softly.
Finally mentions DYH:
On December 05 2015 10:06 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 10:51 disformation wrote:Too make my argument a bit more readable: - scum is hiding in the middleground
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 08:30 DoYouHas wrote:I don't like a lot about Trfel right now. I don't like that he made a mountain out of a molehill with Damdred and did a snap OMGUS. I don't like how he is sliding between sheeping Palmar and Rels. I don't like how he is complaining that Damdred won't work with him, which should not matter unless his read did a 180 and he is confident Damdred is town, and I really don't like this: Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:24 Trfel wrote:
I realized that DoYouHas' activity fits a mafia motivation fairly strongly, assuming that Damdred is town. And still fits somewhat if Damdred is mafia. A strong scumread on me with no explanation, even when pressed. Maybe he just doesn't have a good explanation at this point. Side note, he complains that Damdred won't work with him but refuses to work with Damdred when he gets pressed on his reasoning for attacking me. The conciliatory nature of some of Trfels posts gave me pause since he was so bullheaded with his scumgame last time but I would definitely put him top of my list at the moment. I get the town feels from a lot of the movers and shakers this game which makes me think that scum are hiding in the middle ground, so that is where I'm going to look next. P.S. I wasn't trying excuse a lack of posting. I was pointing out that there are large stretches of time where I cannot post. People seemed to be jumping on the wagon simply because I was afk.
- Was reading the middleground ppl (Fid,HtS,LS,disfo), but haven't got anything out of it
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 14:14 DoYouHas wrote:
Well reading the filters of my middleground group (Fid, HtS, LS, disfo) was significantly less productive than I had hoped.
Gnight folks
@LS - I would like to hear your feelings towards Palmar, Damdred, and Rels.
- "Got no scumreads" (really?) "so i am sheeping town" "btw disfo totally town now"
+ Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 07:36 DoYouHas wrote:
Welp, if you don't have good scumreads, sheep the wagon of your townreads.
##Vote: LS On December 03 2015 07:56 DoYouHas wrote:
What do you want from me Rels? I don't have good scumreads after dropping trfel. I sheep the wagon of 3 of my townreads in Damdred, disfo, and Palmar. It is what it is.
Wat? I have pointed this problem out, Rels has pointed this out, but nothing happens. can you flesh out why you think this progression is scummy any further? I'm looking at this filter and while it's a little short on portion size it's looking pretty well explained. Not to mention the fact that if HTS flips red here the fact remains that he brought her up as a potential target before NM + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 11:08 NocturneMage wrote:
hts is a sleazeball as mafia, I love her to death, but I'll pretty much know immediately if she's mafia because I obviously know her in real life and if she's out of bounds with her personality, she is almost certainly mafia. obviously if I think she's mafia, I will case her in a way that doesn't require you to know her in real life. unless her dota friends want to argue they have some feels on her from external behaviour. rels, fidei? I'm looking at you two.
although seeing doyouhas' post, if hts got someone lynched who was scumreading her, that is a major red flag in my book. that is routine mafia play for her. dani as mafia will absolutely push the lynches of the people who want her dead. so dyh, what was her role in the lynch?
On December 05 2015 10:55 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 10:29 Trfel wrote:On December 05 2015 10:06 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 04 2015 10:51 disformation wrote:Too make my argument a bit more readable: - scum is hiding in the middleground
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 08:30 DoYouHas wrote:I don't like a lot about Trfel right now. I don't like that he made a mountain out of a molehill with Damdred and did a snap OMGUS. I don't like how he is sliding between sheeping Palmar and Rels. I don't like how he is complaining that Damdred won't work with him, which should not matter unless his read did a 180 and he is confident Damdred is town, and I really don't like this: Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:24 Trfel wrote:
I realized that DoYouHas' activity fits a mafia motivation fairly strongly, assuming that Damdred is town. And still fits somewhat if Damdred is mafia. A strong scumread on me with no explanation, even when pressed. Maybe he just doesn't have a good explanation at this point. Side note, he complains that Damdred won't work with him but refuses to work with Damdred when he gets pressed on his reasoning for attacking me. The conciliatory nature of some of Trfels posts gave me pause since he was so bullheaded with his scumgame last time but I would definitely put him top of my list at the moment. I get the town feels from a lot of the movers and shakers this game which makes me think that scum are hiding in the middle ground, so that is where I'm going to look next. P.S. I wasn't trying excuse a lack of posting. I was pointing out that there are large stretches of time where I cannot post. People seemed to be jumping on the wagon simply because I was afk.
- Was reading the middleground ppl (Fid,HtS,LS,disfo), but haven't got anything out of it
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 14:14 DoYouHas wrote:
Well reading the filters of my middleground group (Fid, HtS, LS, disfo) was significantly less productive than I had hoped.
Gnight folks
@LS - I would like to hear your feelings towards Palmar, Damdred, and Rels.
- "Got no scumreads" (really?) "so i am sheeping town" "btw disfo totally town now"
+ Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 07:36 DoYouHas wrote:
Welp, if you don't have good scumreads, sheep the wagon of your townreads.
##Vote: LS On December 03 2015 07:56 DoYouHas wrote:
What do you want from me Rels? I don't have good scumreads after dropping trfel. I sheep the wagon of 3 of my townreads in Damdred, disfo, and Palmar. It is what it is.
Wat? I have pointed this problem out, Rels has pointed this out, but nothing happens. can you flesh out why you think this progression is scummy any further? I'm looking at this filter and while it's a little short on portion size it's looking pretty well explained. Not to mention the fact that if HTS flips red here the fact remains that he brought her up as a potential target before NM + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 11:08 NocturneMage wrote:
hts is a sleazeball as mafia, I love her to death, but I'll pretty much know immediately if she's mafia because I obviously know her in real life and if she's out of bounds with her personality, she is almost certainly mafia. obviously if I think she's mafia, I will case her in a way that doesn't require you to know her in real life. unless her dota friends want to argue they have some feels on her from external behaviour. rels, fidei? I'm looking at you two.
although seeing doyouhas' post, if hts got someone lynched who was scumreading her, that is a major red flag in my book. that is routine mafia play for her. dani as mafia will absolutely push the lynches of the people who want her dead. so dyh, what was her role in the lynch? I'm clearly not playing this game right because I actually really, really like what disformation says here. But I didn't care that much when he first said it  Basically, DoYouHas (in the middle of Day 1 ish) stated that he was going to take a look at the people in the "middle" (because he felt that the most active/vocal people were town). Fair enough. He looked at Fidei86, Half the Sky, LightningStrike, and disformation, and didn't get anything out of it. I'm not sure if this means he didn't get any scumreads out of this or if he didn't get any reads at all from this, if I can catch DoYouHas sometime I'd like to ask this. From this, two things happened. First, he came up with a townread on disformation (because he was sheeping the wagon of his townreads, and mentioned disformation). Second, he got a scumread and case on Half the Sky Night 1, despite not getting much scummy (presumably) from her filter earlier. Hm, I guess this makes sense. Maybe I need to look more closely but let's assume there's no shenanigans tomorrow and HTS flips red. What does that make you think of DYH?
But shifts away from DYH fast back onto NM:
On December 05 2015 11:07 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 11:01 Trfel wrote:On December 05 2015 10:55 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 05 2015 10:29 Trfel wrote:On December 05 2015 10:06 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 04 2015 10:51 disformation wrote:Too make my argument a bit more readable: - scum is hiding in the middleground
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 08:30 DoYouHas wrote:I don't like a lot about Trfel right now. I don't like that he made a mountain out of a molehill with Damdred and did a snap OMGUS. I don't like how he is sliding between sheeping Palmar and Rels. I don't like how he is complaining that Damdred won't work with him, which should not matter unless his read did a 180 and he is confident Damdred is town, and I really don't like this: Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:24 Trfel wrote:
I realized that DoYouHas' activity fits a mafia motivation fairly strongly, assuming that Damdred is town. And still fits somewhat if Damdred is mafia. A strong scumread on me with no explanation, even when pressed. Maybe he just doesn't have a good explanation at this point. Side note, he complains that Damdred won't work with him but refuses to work with Damdred when he gets pressed on his reasoning for attacking me. The conciliatory nature of some of Trfels posts gave me pause since he was so bullheaded with his scumgame last time but I would definitely put him top of my list at the moment. I get the town feels from a lot of the movers and shakers this game which makes me think that scum are hiding in the middle ground, so that is where I'm going to look next. P.S. I wasn't trying excuse a lack of posting. I was pointing out that there are large stretches of time where I cannot post. People seemed to be jumping on the wagon simply because I was afk.
- Was reading the middleground ppl (Fid,HtS,LS,disfo), but haven't got anything out of it
+ Show Spoiler +On December 02 2015 14:14 DoYouHas wrote:
Well reading the filters of my middleground group (Fid, HtS, LS, disfo) was significantly less productive than I had hoped.
Gnight folks
@LS - I would like to hear your feelings towards Palmar, Damdred, and Rels.
- "Got no scumreads" (really?) "so i am sheeping town" "btw disfo totally town now"
+ Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 07:36 DoYouHas wrote:
Welp, if you don't have good scumreads, sheep the wagon of your townreads.
##Vote: LS On December 03 2015 07:56 DoYouHas wrote:
What do you want from me Rels? I don't have good scumreads after dropping trfel. I sheep the wagon of 3 of my townreads in Damdred, disfo, and Palmar. It is what it is.
Wat? I have pointed this problem out, Rels has pointed this out, but nothing happens. can you flesh out why you think this progression is scummy any further? I'm looking at this filter and while it's a little short on portion size it's looking pretty well explained. Not to mention the fact that if HTS flips red here the fact remains that he brought her up as a potential target before NM + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 11:08 NocturneMage wrote:
hts is a sleazeball as mafia, I love her to death, but I'll pretty much know immediately if she's mafia because I obviously know her in real life and if she's out of bounds with her personality, she is almost certainly mafia. obviously if I think she's mafia, I will case her in a way that doesn't require you to know her in real life. unless her dota friends want to argue they have some feels on her from external behaviour. rels, fidei? I'm looking at you two.
although seeing doyouhas' post, if hts got someone lynched who was scumreading her, that is a major red flag in my book. that is routine mafia play for her. dani as mafia will absolutely push the lynches of the people who want her dead. so dyh, what was her role in the lynch? I'm clearly not playing this game right because I actually really, really like what disformation says here. But I didn't care that much when he first said it Basically, DoYouHas (in the middle of Day 1 ish) stated that he was going to take a look at the people in the "middle" (because he felt that the most active/vocal people were town). Fair enough. He looked at Fidei86, Half the Sky, LightningStrike, and disformation, and didn't get anything out of it. I'm not sure if this means he didn't get any scumreads out of this or if he didn't get any reads at all from this, if I can catch DoYouHas sometime I'd like to ask this. From this, two things happened. First, he came up with a townread on disformation (because he was sheeping the wagon of his townreads, and mentioned disformation). Second, he got a scumread and case on Half the Sky Night 1, despite not getting much scummy (presumably) from her filter earlier. Hm, I guess this makes sense. Maybe I need to look more closely but let's assume there's no shenanigans tomorrow and HTS flips red. What does that make you think of DYH? I'm fairly suspicious of DoYouHas. I'm not really sure what implications a Half the Sky scum flip would have on DoYouHas. Do you have any thoughts about NocturneMage or anyone else that you want to talk about? DYH brought up HTS as possibler scum before NM and NM referenced DYH in his post calling HTS scummy. I think NM's entrance set a bit of a scummy tone initially but his recent postings have been pointed and he seems to be following a logical thought progression. He's obviously very confident in his HTS read which is why I'm sheeped all over that. I think NM is towny though I'm pretty allergic to deep reading right now. also he has 5 pages after replacing in night 1, is NM known to be a high effort scum?
Later he sheeps NM... (wasn't that a scum lean just now?
On December 08 2015 12:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
shamelessly sheeping NM while i get my new SSD all up and running
##vote trfel
consider me a gullible extra vote bot for now i guess
So unlikely partners:
Trfel - very waffly about that one.
NM - feels more like he was trying to find reasons to scum read him... until suddenly sheeping him.
The Shining - agrees with a list post of The Shining and laters gives him an easy town read.
So possible partners:
Me - Overall awkward interactions and that one strange thing where he soft defended me.
Rels - Basically only two very very short mentions of him in his filter and no interactions.
DYH - Only talks about him when pressed multiple times, seems to consider him for a moment, then deflects off onto NM. No interactions.
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On December 10 2015 03:26 NocturneMage wrote:
disformation, can you analyse the interactions from both sides? You suspect Rels and DYH, so now do it from those two players sides.
Sure thing. Will be doing FF really quick.
All of DYH's mentions/interactions with FF in the following spoiler. As a bonus I threw all mentions/interactions with Onegu in it, too. So this is another huge one! open with care!
+ Show Spoiler +On December 04 2015 09:13 DoYouHas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 09:07 Trfel wrote:On December 04 2015 09:03 NocturneMage wrote:
I also don't like Trfels turning around on this either.
What the hell are we using WIFOM arguments for? Because they're really darn accurate. Night kill analysis is amazing. @Fecalfeast, why else would Damdred be killed? The NocturneMage read seems to be by far the most likely. And that wasn't the only reason that I mentioned that the night kill makes me want to lynch NocturneMage less. It could be as simple as Damdred is a solid town player, and was read as town by the majority of the players. He clearly had influence as evidenced by the LS wagon. That is enough to make him a good kill. His reads are worth more now that we know for sure he was town, and should be considered carefully, but there is plenty to make him a good nightkill beyond his reads. (Sorry, I know you wanted FF to answer) On December 06 2015 07:04 DoYouHas wrote:
My PoE right now looks like this:
Town: Rels, Shining, LS(I am still on board with the EoD VT claim)
Townlean: Disfo, Palmar, Fid (need to look into him more)
Unfiltered: NM, FF
Suspicious but incomplete: Trfel
Scum: HTS
"FF? Who? Nah, didn't even look at him."
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On December 10 2015 03:31 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 03:26 NocturneMage wrote:
disformation, can you analyse the interactions from both sides? You suspect Rels and DYH, so now do it from those two players sides. Sure thing. Will be doing FF really quick. All of DYH's mentions/interactions with FF in the following spoiler. As a bonus I threw all mentions/interactions with Onegu in it, too. So this is another huge one! open with care! + Show Spoiler +On December 04 2015 09:13 DoYouHas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 09:07 Trfel wrote:On December 04 2015 09:03 NocturneMage wrote:
I also don't like Trfels turning around on this either.
What the hell are we using WIFOM arguments for? Because they're really darn accurate. Night kill analysis is amazing. @Fecalfeast, why else would Damdred be killed? The NocturneMage read seems to be by far the most likely. And that wasn't the only reason that I mentioned that the night kill makes me want to lynch NocturneMage less. It could be as simple as Damdred is a solid town player, and was read as town by the majority of the players. He clearly had influence as evidenced by the LS wagon. That is enough to make him a good kill. His reads are worth more now that we know for sure he was town, and should be considered carefully, but there is plenty to make him a good nightkill beyond his reads. (Sorry, I know you wanted FF to answer) On December 06 2015 07:04 DoYouHas wrote:
My PoE right now looks like this:
Town: Rels, Shining, LS(I am still on board with the EoD VT claim)
Townlean: Disfo, Palmar, Fid (need to look into him more)
Unfiltered: NM, FF
Suspicious but incomplete: Trfel
Scum: HTS
"FF? Who? Nah, didn't even look at him."
Eh. THis was DYH on FF.
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Rels filter is totally long and hard. Will do that after dinner.
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On December 10 2015 03:49 disformation wrote:
Rels filter is totally long and hard. Will do that after dinner.
The fuck is my brain doing.
Rels is like the only one besides me trying to lynch DYH and on multiple occasions.
Don't think they can be a couple.
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On December 10 2015 05:07 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 03:49 disformation wrote:
Rels filter is totally long and hard. Will do that after dinner. The fuck is my brain doing. Rels is like the only one besides me trying to lynch DYH and on multiple occasions. Don't think they can be a couple.
Facepalm.
Riiiiight. FF and Rels it was. Move along, nothing to see here.
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Rels on FF:
First mention of FF:
On December 07 2015 23:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2015 23:36 NocturneMage wrote:
actually looking at the way Damdred played the game come to think of it, the same concept I just discussed regarding Palmar applies to him. Plenty of games on him. He had more focus and direction day 1 but night 1 he did dick all, not sure if he was playing with the intention of trying to not be shot or if he was legit busy.
so same question regarding Damdred anyone else (besides LS based on modconfirmation) with reason to dread him? Trfel / Shining / FF are the three players fitting this thing. HTS did too though, so that might apply less on the N1 kill.
Not sure about this read though:
On December 08 2015 00:36 Rels wrote:
Well here is my mind right now:
Shining, disfo and LS are town.
Kills points at Trfel and fidei. DYH is also an attractive lynch, but kills don't point to him. Finally, fidei's point about NM's being so sure of HTS the minute he enters the thread makes some sense.
Looks like FF didn't make any list. Means he's likely town.
Then he is asked to read FF's filter and comes back with:
On December 08 2015 21:23 Rels wrote:
FF could be scum. Likely partner of that is the case: dyh.
At EoD "yesterday"
On December 09 2015 07:47 Rels wrote:
Trfel did too though. I'm OK with both actually
FF and Shining did too. At least Shining has his usual excuse
Yeah, dunno this doesn't look great either. Weird initial town lean into a not very well explained scum read, with 0 interaction. Doesn't like how FF shows up shortly b4 deadline, but doesn't do much about it either.
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On December 10 2015 05:46 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 05:16 disformation wrote:On December 10 2015 05:07 disformation wrote:On December 10 2015 03:49 disformation wrote:
Rels filter is totally long and hard. Will do that after dinner. The fuck is my brain doing. Rels is like the only one besides me trying to lynch DYH and on multiple occasions. Don't think they can be a couple. Facepalm. Riiiiight. FF and Rels it was. Move along, nothing to see here. It was after 2100 your time when you made that post. Chances of drunken post? Pretty high 
You seem to be pretty obsessed with alcohol.
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On December 10 2015 06:03 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 05:51 disformation wrote:On December 10 2015 05:46 NocturneMage wrote:On December 10 2015 05:16 disformation wrote:On December 10 2015 05:07 disformation wrote:On December 10 2015 03:49 disformation wrote:
Rels filter is totally long and hard. Will do that after dinner. The fuck is my brain doing. Rels is like the only one besides me trying to lynch DYH and on multiple occasions. Don't think they can be a couple. Facepalm. Riiiiight. FF and Rels it was. Move along, nothing to see here. It was after 2100 your time when you made that post. Chances of drunken post? Pretty high You seem to be pretty obsessed with alcohol. My family is from just north of Milan. So Italian wine 1000%. What's the shame in that? A bit of sightseeing though and sadly I've turned Dani into a whisky fanatic though. Just fuck it.
Ah, yes. I think she mentioned that once. Must have been the time she told me she likes Riesling (German white wine from the region I live in).
On December 10 2015 06:04 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 05:47 disformation wrote:Rels on FF:
First mention of FF: On December 07 2015 23:43 Rels wrote:On December 07 2015 23:36 NocturneMage wrote:
actually looking at the way Damdred played the game come to think of it, the same concept I just discussed regarding Palmar applies to him. Plenty of games on him. He had more focus and direction day 1 but night 1 he did dick all, not sure if he was playing with the intention of trying to not be shot or if he was legit busy.
so same question regarding Damdred anyone else (besides LS based on modconfirmation) with reason to dread him? Trfel / Shining / FF are the three players fitting this thing. HTS did too though, so that might apply less on the N1 kill. Not sure about this read though: On December 08 2015 00:36 Rels wrote:
Well here is my mind right now:
Shining, disfo and LS are town.
Kills points at Trfel and fidei. DYH is also an attractive lynch, but kills don't point to him. Finally, fidei's point about NM's being so sure of HTS the minute he enters the thread makes some sense.
Looks like FF didn't make any list. Means he's likely town. Then he is asked to read FF's filter and comes back with: On December 08 2015 21:23 Rels wrote:
FF could be scum. Likely partner of that is the case: dyh. At EoD "yesterday" On December 09 2015 07:47 Rels wrote:
Trfel did too though. I'm OK with both actually
FF and Shining did too. At least Shining has his usual excuse
Yeah, dunno this doesn't look great either. Weird initial town lean into a not very well explained scum read, with 0 interaction. Doesn't like how FF shows up shortly b4 deadline, but doesn't do much about it either. How about the context of the rest of their play? Between Rels and DYH, who is most likely?
You mean into the context of whose play I find to be more scummy? Well, I didn't wrote that case on DYH for nothing. 
Hm, maybe I'll look into Rels once more, but his overall game so far has striken me as being rather townie.
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On December 10 2015 06:38 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 06:37 NocturneMage wrote:
So disformation would probably be lynching Rels and DYH in that order. Got it. Wait no, I don't have that right. DYH and Rels in that order. Folks, I am sober, I swear.
Was about to say...
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Ah, will also take a look at Fidei86 tomorrow. Kinda sleeping on him a bit again. xD
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On December 10 2015 07:06 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 06:52 disformation wrote:
Ah, will also take a look at Fidei86 tomorrow. Kinda sleeping on him a bit again. xD But you were so sure about DYH? Most people are sure it's you over DYH, and a lot of the things said are really 50/50 between you and him.
Yeah, I can't wait for the night phase to be over so I can put my vote on him (DYH) and even if I wasn't sure about DYH I probably have to put my vote on him for survival's sake anyway.
Still want to make a last round of filtering to make sure I missed nothing, also I fear there won't be that much to talk about the next two days. The cases are made.
Actually maybe I can add one or two small things to my case on DYH, but the main reasons stand.
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On December 10 2015 07:11 NocturneMage wrote:
Like Rels is wrong, not scummy for it. I see where he's coming from, but in my mind I tried to isolate my bias/meta knowledge from the case. And I think if it was any other player than Dani, I would say the lacklustre posting day 1 could be suboptimal town, but the end of cycle vote switching was quite mafia indicative.
Someone with the experience that he has (per database) it's reasonable to conclude he could come up with the information on his own.
With the last sentence you refer to DYH?
On December 10 2015 07:15 NocturneMage wrote:
The meta from scum games is quite different. There was no way I could justify voting DYH last night.
And Fidei voted down HTS. There was no discussion.
And Shining created a decent case for which you had to change positions. You holding out wasn't good for you.
So Fidei was off wagon last night, he was partying last night and admitted he couldn't do the research.
That's not alignment indicative. So what else changed?
On December 10 2015 07:16 NocturneMage wrote:
At some point in the discussion even he said he "could" vote Fecalfeast.
Yeah, see that is the kind of stuff I want to look at again and double check.
Cause I had a scum lean on him early D3, but dropped that, when he started to look like trying to solve the game. But I haven't really looked into his stances on FF for example.
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On December 10 2015 07:23 NocturneMage wrote:
Yes DYH with that last sentence.
I know Fidei autopiloted day 2. Everyone did. Day 3, he went through several filters and we had a thing to do on LS.
Okay, fair enough.
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On December 10 2015 07:36 NocturneMage wrote:Well okay, I'm not drunk but I had a glass of chianti. Er, okay I lied, maybe two glasses of chianti. But I'm still sober
Yeah, yeah. Complains about her drinking whisky, busts out the wine as soon as she goes to bed.
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On December 10 2015 07:53 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 06:27 disformation wrote:On December 10 2015 06:03 NocturneMage wrote:On December 10 2015 05:51 disformation wrote:On December 10 2015 05:46 NocturneMage wrote:On December 10 2015 05:16 disformation wrote:On December 10 2015 05:07 disformation wrote:On December 10 2015 03:49 disformation wrote:
Rels filter is totally long and hard. Will do that after dinner. The fuck is my brain doing. Rels is like the only one besides me trying to lynch DYH and on multiple occasions. Don't think they can be a couple. Facepalm. Riiiiight. FF and Rels it was. Move along, nothing to see here. It was after 2100 your time when you made that post. Chances of drunken post? Pretty high You seem to be pretty obsessed with alcohol. My family is from just north of Milan. So Italian wine 1000%. What's the shame in that? A bit of sightseeing though and sadly I've turned Dani into a whisky fanatic though. Just fuck it. Ah, yes. I think she mentioned that once. Must have been the time she told me she likes Riesling (German white wine from the region I live in). On December 10 2015 06:04 NocturneMage wrote:On December 10 2015 05:47 disformation wrote:Rels on FF:
First mention of FF: On December 07 2015 23:43 Rels wrote:On December 07 2015 23:36 NocturneMage wrote:
actually looking at the way Damdred played the game come to think of it, the same concept I just discussed regarding Palmar applies to him. Plenty of games on him. He had more focus and direction day 1 but night 1 he did dick all, not sure if he was playing with the intention of trying to not be shot or if he was legit busy.
so same question regarding Damdred anyone else (besides LS based on modconfirmation) with reason to dread him? Trfel / Shining / FF are the three players fitting this thing. HTS did too though, so that might apply less on the N1 kill. Not sure about this read though: On December 08 2015 00:36 Rels wrote:
Well here is my mind right now:
Shining, disfo and LS are town.
Kills points at Trfel and fidei. DYH is also an attractive lynch, but kills don't point to him. Finally, fidei's point about NM's being so sure of HTS the minute he enters the thread makes some sense.
Looks like FF didn't make any list. Means he's likely town. Then he is asked to read FF's filter and comes back with: On December 08 2015 21:23 Rels wrote:
FF could be scum. Likely partner of that is the case: dyh. At EoD "yesterday" On December 09 2015 07:47 Rels wrote:
Trfel did too though. I'm OK with both actually
FF and Shining did too. At least Shining has his usual excuse
Yeah, dunno this doesn't look great either. Weird initial town lean into a not very well explained scum read, with 0 interaction. Doesn't like how FF shows up shortly b4 deadline, but doesn't do much about it either. How about the context of the rest of their play? Between Rels and DYH, who is most likely? You mean into the context of whose play I find to be more scummy? Well, I didn't wrote that case on DYH for nothing. Hm, maybe I'll look into Rels once more, but his overall game so far has striken me as being rather townie. Hmmmmmm....... Did she tell you this in the mafia QT by any chance? Commence drunk post analysis!
This came up when we were talking about the flavour for the haunted mansion game, which is based on a castle near where I live. Hence the talk about the wine of this region.
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On December 10 2015 07:55 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 07:54 LightningStrike wrote:On December 10 2015 07:52 Trfel wrote:On December 10 2015 07:49 NocturneMage wrote:Sorry Trfel didn't realise you weren't old enough. Oh well another glass of wine for me Oh my.... I think it would be a good idea to change the night kill to yourself. This play clearly optimizes your chances of winning. + Show Spoiler +If he's drunk enough, maybe he'll fall for it! XD I had seen a mafia roleblocker roleblock himself when the KPMG was delivered not factional :O OH GOD WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME. That wasn't me, but I was on that particular scumteam.
Oh... that was the game with Rels, n00bKing and MoosyDoosy yelling at each other the whole time, right?
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*scratches head*
Maybe the theory that scum is heavily drinking isn't that far fetched.
Time to put my vote on DYH, again. Will probably restate my case tomorrow.
If you guys have any questions for me: shoot.
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On December 10 2015 08:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Am I the last American alive in this game?
The Shining and DoYouHas are Americans, too? According to their profile/timezone thingie at least.
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