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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 11 2015 22:39 GMT
#2301
On December 12 2015 07:36 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 07:35 NocturneMage wrote:
mobile, catching up. but I'm here.

Just letting you know that if you're town, you're dumb. If you're mafia, you're toasted by that opportunistic vote. Either way you're bad =D


This isn't that fair because your vote on Trfel when FF was lynched was arguably just as bad or worse =/
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 22:40 GMT
#2302
and trying to pick back up on Rels' filter as well.

I'm honestly grappling here. There is nothing right now that is screaming mafia about DYH. I really feel the case being made against him is 50/50 at best. I tried lining all shit up, I tried isolating his case against hts, like I said time and again there's an equal possibility he could have pushed the Dani lynch on his own. there are certain elements of her play that could have allowed him to do this.

my other hesistancy is that the points being made is that ff is the one making the points and dyh never got to him for all I could tell. like I thought and thought, I mean I could honestly see this go either way. ff can spout off whatever.

scum have a general generic tendency to fall off but this, dyh just seems like someone who is damned busy to play.

the only thing that jumps at me is voting disformation in the event that disformation is town but that's unflipped association.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 11 2015 22:41 GMT
#2303
On December 12 2015 07:39 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 07:36 Rels wrote:
On December 12 2015 07:35 NocturneMage wrote:
mobile, catching up. but I'm here.

Just letting you know that if you're town, you're dumb. If you're mafia, you're toasted by that opportunistic vote. Either way you're bad =D


This isn't that fair because your vote on Trfel when FF was lynched was arguably just as bad or worse =/

No. It's only bad 'cause Trfel was town and FF scum. He asked a casual "mm is Rels good at scum ?", fidei said "YES THATS TRUE", and he filter picked everything he found until he voted me, despite calling DYH out earlier on his vote on me.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 22:42 GMT
#2304
and rels, I'm not guilty of overexplanation. overthinking yes, but not overexplanation. I am trying to process your massive filter both possible viewpoints and I had a dinner date with Dani, and I had to go, end of. there are certain things giving me pause. that was the entire purpose of the walkthrough. gah.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 22:42 GMT
#2305
like honestly what even IS overexplanation from a mafia side of things? that was something I didn't get when palmar got kush lynched for that. meh, fuck it. plowing on.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 11 2015 22:43 GMT
#2306
On December 12 2015 07:40 NocturneMage wrote:
the only thing that jumps at me is voting disformation in the event that disformation is town but that's unflipped association.

what
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 11 2015 22:43 GMT
#2307
On December 12 2015 07:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 07:40 NocturneMage wrote:
the only thing that jumps at me is voting disformation in the event that disformation is town but that's unflipped association.

what

can you expand
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 11 2015 22:44 GMT
#2308
On December 12 2015 07:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 07:43 Rels wrote:
On December 12 2015 07:40 NocturneMage wrote:
the only thing that jumps at me is voting disformation in the event that disformation is town but that's unflipped association.

what

can you expand

'cause if disfo is town, DYH is mafia by your analysis
if disfo is mafia, well he's mafia
so you should be voting one of them
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 11 2015 22:44 GMT
#2309
On December 12 2015 07:39 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 07:03 The Shining wrote:
I understand you're busy and whatnot but you know you and I have shitfought over our alignments in past games right? This unconcerned tone while being lynched is pretty offsetting to me. Like how does this come from town fighting to lynch scum and fighting off a mislynch?

"but now that you are on a comp fighting for your life I will get back to my other reasons to lynch you"


This is bad but here's my main issue. We lynch DYH today and say he flips town. That's one Rels voter dead. Fidei or I get shot tonight. NM Will live because he is the other Trfel voter and subject to suspicion. LS Disfo and Rels obvs won't lynch Rels. Rels survives and if he's scum wins the game.

Opposite scenario. Lynch Rels. If he does flip town, Disfo will still try to get DYH lynched and I think he gets more support than anyone could VS Rels.

I'm trying to figure out which is the better scenario for town to win if we mislynch today
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 22:45 GMT
#2310
On December 09 2015 08:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Final vote count


Fecalfeast (3): Trfel, The Shining, disformation
Trfel (3): NocturneMage, Fecalfeast, Rels
LightningStrike (1): Fidei86
Fidei86 (1): LightningStrike
Disinformation (1): DoYouHas


Fecalfeast is set to be lynched.


this is what I mean rels. off wagon, solo vote. this is regarding dyh.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 11 2015 22:46 GMT
#2311
On December 12 2015 07:45 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2015 08:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Final vote count


Fecalfeast (3): Trfel, The Shining, disformation
Trfel (3): NocturneMage, Fecalfeast, Rels
LightningStrike (1): Fidei86
Fidei86 (1): LightningStrike
Disinformation (1): DoYouHas


Fecalfeast is set to be lynched.


this is what I mean rels. off wagon, solo vote. this is regarding dyh.

If it's bad if disfo is town, you should lynch DYH, then disfo if DYH flips town
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 11 2015 22:47 GMT
#2312
On December 12 2015 07:44 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 07:39 Rels wrote:
On December 12 2015 07:03 The Shining wrote:
I understand you're busy and whatnot but you know you and I have shitfought over our alignments in past games right? This unconcerned tone while being lynched is pretty offsetting to me. Like how does this come from town fighting to lynch scum and fighting off a mislynch?

"but now that you are on a comp fighting for your life I will get back to my other reasons to lynch you"


This is bad but here's my main issue. We lynch DYH today and say he flips town. That's one Rels voter dead. Fidei or I get shot tonight. NM Will live because he is the other Trfel voter and subject to suspicion. LS Disfo and Rels obvs won't lynch Rels. Rels survives and if he's scum wins the game.

Opposite scenario. Lynch Rels. If he does flip town, Disfo will still try to get DYH lynched and I think he gets more support than anyone could VS Rels.

I'm trying to figure out which is the better scenario for town to win if we mislynch today

Nobody is here during 48 hours, but then everybody is thinking about stuff when it's time for deadline
Only disfo was here today. If he's scum he deserves the win; never lynch him
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 11 2015 22:49 GMT
#2313
I'm here what's up?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 11 2015 22:50 GMT
#2314
On December 12 2015 07:40 NocturneMage wrote:
and trying to pick back up on Rels' filter as well.

I'm honestly grappling here. There is nothing right now that is screaming mafia about DYH. I really feel the case being made against him is 50/50 at best. I tried lining all shit up, I tried isolating his case against hts, like I said time and again there's an equal possibility he could have pushed the Dani lynch on his own. there are certain elements of her play that could have allowed him to do this.

my other hesistancy is that the points being made is that ff is the one making the points and dyh never got to him for all I could tell. like I thought and thought, I mean I could honestly see this go either way. ff can spout off whatever.

scum have a general generic tendency to fall off but this, dyh just seems like someone who is damned busy to play.

the only thing that jumps at me is voting disformation in the event that disformation is town but that's unflipped association.


This feela like possible distancing/TMI about DYH. Tempted to lynch DYH and NM if he flips town now, ugh.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
December 11 2015 22:50 GMT
#2315
On December 12 2015 07:44 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 07:43 Rels wrote:
On December 12 2015 07:43 Rels wrote:
On December 12 2015 07:40 NocturneMage wrote:
the only thing that jumps at me is voting disformation in the event that disformation is town but that's unflipped association.

what

can you expand

'cause if disfo is town, DYH is mafia by your analysis
if disfo is mafia, well he's mafia
so you should be voting one of them


sigh that was from a poe standpoint. we don't know and dyh was on him for awhile.

like I said last cycle I really feel someone is quite active or throwing us off track and my mind is spinning going through your filter.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 11 2015 22:50 GMT
#2316
On December 12 2015 07:50 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 07:40 NocturneMage wrote:
and trying to pick back up on Rels' filter as well.

I'm honestly grappling here. There is nothing right now that is screaming mafia about DYH. I really feel the case being made against him is 50/50 at best. I tried lining all shit up, I tried isolating his case against hts, like I said time and again there's an equal possibility he could have pushed the Dani lynch on his own. there are certain elements of her play that could have allowed him to do this.

my other hesistancy is that the points being made is that ff is the one making the points and dyh never got to him for all I could tell. like I thought and thought, I mean I could honestly see this go either way. ff can spout off whatever.

scum have a general generic tendency to fall off but this, dyh just seems like someone who is damned busy to play.

the only thing that jumps at me is voting disformation in the event that disformation is town but that's unflipped association.


This feela like possible distancing/TMI about DYH. Tempted to lynch DYH and NM if he flips town now, ugh.

mm then do it
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
December 11 2015 22:51 GMT
#2317
Shining I don't know if I can check again, I'm trying to be social at this party. I'm also too drunk to think straight. Or tired. I think it's Rels/NM so yeah. If you go DYH and win the game I give you ten internet points. You could be right.

Honestly he has such a short filter ...
Ugh.

One more beer. Then final gut check.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 11 2015 22:52 GMT
#2318
On December 12 2015 07:50 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2015 07:44 Rels wrote:
On December 12 2015 07:43 Rels wrote:
On December 12 2015 07:43 Rels wrote:
On December 12 2015 07:40 NocturneMage wrote:
the only thing that jumps at me is voting disformation in the event that disformation is town but that's unflipped association.

what

can you expand

'cause if disfo is town, DYH is mafia by your analysis
if disfo is mafia, well he's mafia
so you should be voting one of them


sigh that was from a poe standpoint. we don't know and dyh was on him for awhile.

like I said last cycle I really feel someone is quite active or throwing us off track and my mind is spinning going through your filter.

Mm then you should have used the 48 hours to reread the game. That's what I did and I ended with DYH as scum, possible NM, maybe Fidei. You started throwing suspicions around 3h30 before deadline, when I told HTS I wasn't available tonight.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 11 2015 22:52 GMT
#2319
Is DYH still even here anymore?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 11 2015 22:52 GMT
#2320
On December 12 2015 07:52 The Shining wrote:
Is DYH still even here anymore?

Disappeared when I asked him about his expanded reasons to scumread me.
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