EPTI feel that maybe he was townread too early for not doing anything, so he decided to continue to not do anything because it works.
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I feel that maybe he was townread too early for not doing anything, so he decided to continue to not do anything because it works. | ||
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On December 09 2015 07:37 Fecalfeast wrote: I thought you prided yourself in being an unexpectedly hard mislynch?Shenanigans onto fecalfeast then? I couldn't care less about this game right now. As I recall from last game, "it's encouraging that this is all the scummer has to push on". | ||
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On December 09 2015 07:41 disformation wrote: If NocturneMage is mafia, I can't convince everyone to vote for him. I can't even entirely convince myself.Dunno what to make of Trfel. Like D2 everyone is scum. Now everyone is town. Though, the thing with the active ppl being town and mafia doing jack could be true. Seen that happen before. And with everyone's reads all over the place mafia could very well be hiding under a rock or something. Thus, there's nothing I can do, so I need to assume that NocturneMage is town, for now at least. I think that with this in mind, the assumption that makes the most sense is that the most influential and active players are all town. Looking through everyone's filter, I found a reason that I'm hesitant to lynch all of them, except for Fecalfeast. Terrible reasoning? Yes. The best I have? Also yes. I'm over 10 pages behind and have no clue what's happening, but most people seem to be doing things that I like and getting involved... except for Fecalfeast. | ||
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On December 09 2015 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote: Wait, but you just caught up.... So why are you now wanting to die?I just spent 2 full days playing fallout and tinkering with my PC. I just caught up on the entire day phase now. If I die I don't have to read and mafia is never going t shoot me I really think that Fecalfeast is the best lynch. | ||
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Or maybe I'm just completely wrong about it. Oh well. Lynch Fecalfeast. | ||
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GG Fecalfeast XD | ||
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I call that good guessing haha  Anyway, the 5 minutes I spent playing this game today might cost me quite a bit on my homework.... But that was fun XD | ||
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Or maybe I won't, I seem to be better that way ^^ | ||
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I may not be that good at mafia, but sometimes, experience plays a huge role XD Anyway, off for the night. And Rels, if you're town..... tsk tsk. You should know better. Well, okay, if you're scum, you should know better too! (no, that's not a scumread, that's teasing....) | ||
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First of all, I'm sorry. I'd rather not get into exactly why I played like I did, but I really am sorry. My mafia play has way too many problems, and the way my play was towards you and Damdred is definitely one of the larger ones. I saw something that made me think you were town, I think maybe it was Fecalfeast being willing to lynch you based on my case, while also saying why the case was wrong on several points. It seems like this could be the way that scum treats scum, to set up for a bus while sort of fighting against it, but I feel like it's much more likely that this is scum towards town, saying "here's an easy mislynch" but also setting up an "I told you so" afterwards. In addition to the overall picture showing a ridiculous determination to solve the game, which I have a bad habit of ignoring. Nine times out of ten, the players who are trying really hard and putting in tons of effort really are town, no matter what stupid ideas you come up with that say otherwise. Anyway, I'd be lying if I said I was completely sure you were town, I'm not really sure of much of anything at this point. But I am sorry, and hopefully we can work together a little more effectively in the future if need be. | ||
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On December 09 2015 12:47 The Shining wrote: I'm confirmed town, I can do what I want Can you do what I asked earlier of everyone? Who do you think are the next 2 lynches in order to solve/win the game?  I thought we had three lynches remaining? + Show Spoiler + Current: Start of Night 3, 7 v 1 Start of D4: 6 v 1 N4: 5 v 1 (one lynch) D5: 4 v 1 N5: 3 v 1 (two lynches) D6: 2 v 1 (lylo, 3 total lynches) To be honest, I found something that made me not want to lynch everyone except for Fecalfeast... So, I have no answer. | ||
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On December 09 2015 13:44 The Shining wrote: Ooohhhh, I'm definitely excited for this! I'm dropping a case at some point tonight. So ya. If I get shot tonight, there's always that. Any clue in how long? IE, should I stay up for it? | ||
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On December 09 2015 13:47 Trfel wrote: Wait... I'm guessing you mean night phase.Ooohhhh, I'm definitely excited for this! Any clue in how long? IE, should I stay up for it? Darn, oh well. Still excited XD | ||
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On December 09 2015 13:59 The Shining wrote: Yeah, I've learned SO much since that Student game. Like, seriously.XD You don't like my cases, though. You let JJB get away once upon a time the first time I made a case like this. DON'T DO IT TO ME AGAIN LOL but nah, I'm trying my best to make it readable. Also, I think like 1-2 Student games ago, I made a similar case like this to catch the final scum, Vonthin, in triple lylo. So when I make cases like these, they're god-tier >_> <_< I'll probably be done in an hour or so, maybe less That game was basically the wake-up call for me, before that I actually thought I was really good at mafia, believe it or not XD I'll see if I'm still awake when you post. No guarantees, though. | ||
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On December 09 2015 14:28 The Shining wrote: If this case is on me I'm going to be so mad ><You and I both, my friend. I'm about 80% done. No worries, you can get to it tomorrow or at some point throughout the day phase. It's guaranteed at least one of us will be alive next day phase lol unless we have a Vig that shoots N3 -____- | ||
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I think I'm going to lynch NocturneMage instead once you get shot | ||
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On December 09 2015 15:04 The Shining wrote: Good luck with that XDThus is life. If I get shot, I'm scumming you in obs >_> + Show Spoiler + Don't tell anyone, but I glanced through your case and I think you saved me the trouble of having to read stuff Though I should take a closer look sometime later | ||
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Based on disformation's response, I feel that he is very likely mafia and the best lynch, and thus I don't intend to read the parts of the game that I missed. On December 09 2015 22:57 NocturneMage wrote: @NocturneMage....I am quite curious. Like I have reasoning to think you are town. But on the Trfel wagon: (1) myself (pretty damned early) (2) flipped mafia FF (who sheeped me an hour after I went to bed) (3) Rels (right at end of cycle) you can double check the timestamps but I am sure I am close to accurate. why are you so sure scum would give themselves away like that with 3 mislynches to go? especially given the timing. for Rels to try and save a scumbuddy with a decent chance of failing, or for FF to sheep me and sit there all cycle doing dick all. you have approx 25 games under your belt to my 3, surely you are more informed on something I'm not Note that I wasn't really paying any attention at End of Day, even for the parts that I technically "read". But do note that as mafia, the first instinct is to defend your teammate by lynching the other person and being as forceful as possible about it. The second instinct is to bus. If you go with the first option, you can ALWAYS wifom it away and say that you were wrong. Assuming for a moment that Rels is mafia... I can see him judging that the chance of succeeding in the mislynch would be well worth the risk of not getting town credit for the bus (note that this isn't getting scumread for being on the other wagon, that's actually minimal, the big loss is not getting town credit for lynching scum). I'm inclined to think that what End of Day really suggests is that the people who were there, and involved, but weren't voting on either wagon are town (if there were any). While this seems scummy on the surface, I simply don't think that scum would ever do this, it's so far removed from the mafia mindset. I don't think that this applies to DoYouHas, however, since he was trying to get a wagon started on disformation with ~5 minutes left in the day, and he seems to take a long time to post, thus I can't be sure that he's capable of adjusting to the situation and changing his vote if he is mafia. I didn't read to see about the other two. | ||
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On December 09 2015 23:21 NocturneMage wrote: 13 player game balance is really simple though? I can explain it in 30 seconds.Fair enough Rels. I realise this is a mostly open setup, but I have a ways to go with setup spec/mechanics. HTS tried to explain to me how to balance 13-player games sometime back and I just told her to stop after 5 minutes because my head was spinning. I'm so bad Anyhow need to afk again, curious to see the full case response disformation. 10 town and 3 mafia, you give the town 1.5-2 power roles and you give the mafia 1.5-2 power roles. Godfather and veteran are half power roles. Easy! I mean, there's a bit that's more complex, but that's mostly enough ^^ I protest my vote switch to Fecalfeast being called a "yolo move", though. It may have been a guess, but it was a very educated guess! Also, what the heck? Why is disformation saying that Onegu's filter is NAI and impossible to get a read from, after questioning it earlier? That wasn't even a point in The Shining's case, unless I badly misread it? On December 10 2015 00:24 LightningStrike wrote: I thought this was a TL Starcraft phrase? Evidently it carried to the LoL site also?Sorry I went full Romanian  Never go full Romanian guys.On December 10 2015 00:26 disformation wrote: Disformation is making me laugh so much XDI think the part with onegus filter should have said, open AT own risk and I am not accountable FOR any injuries. english hard language. I'll probably be semi around today, trying to get a bit of stuff done home office style, this game has eaten a fair share of my time and I am a bit behind on a few things. If you have further questions just shoot, cause mafia won't.  And I think that it makes him even more mafia. I get the impression that he's focused on having fun here, primarily, instead of trying to lynch mafia, which while this is a great approach and should be the approach that everyone has all the time, isn't something I expected to see from disformation. Could be very wrong on this, though, but I don't care to find out. On December 10 2015 02:08 LightningStrike wrote: As long as it doesn't involve reading the thread, sure?Tfrel can I ask you a favor please? | ||
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On December 10 2015 02:22 LightningStrike wrote: I think that it's extremely suspicious that he basically says "I think that some points were misrepresented or overblown", indicating that he thinks that the rest of the points are fine. This really doesn't feel like something that town would say.I wanted you to read disformation's response to shining'so case on him :o To say much more than that, I'd need to actually read the thread and filters to see context, which I'm not going to do because we win anyway | ||
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