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On December 06 2015 08:59 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 08:57 Koshi wrote:On December 06 2015 08:56 GlowingBear wrote:On December 06 2015 08:54 Koshi wrote:On December 06 2015 08:53 GlowingBear wrote:On December 06 2015 08:51 Koshi wrote:On December 06 2015 08:30 Koshi wrote:
Are you people braindead? Don't lynch him and lose the game then. Then I'll requote this. You can just type solely "yes" next time. Then I got to read less words. Keep posting this so I can have more than one quote to PM you every day I would like to point out I had Chrom as mafia D1, and I didn't want to vote Vivax or TT. Cool Do you understand where I'm coming from?
No because Onegu is still in the game.
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Oh stupid that I wasn't here for shennanies, but explain to me why Chrom would like to kill Onegu and modkill scott? Because that would give town another ml. A ml Chrom needs.
Then on top of that, his D3 was fucking awesome and he followed my train of thought perfectly.
On top of that, why would he change the killtarget from sicklucker -> Koshi and risk another save on N3?
Why would he do work N3, he already bussed for towncred and nobody looked his way?:
+ Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote:
I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means. On December 03 2015 04:17 Chromatically wrote:
I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all On December 03 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote:
It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off. On December 03 2015 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed On December 03 2015 07:03 Chromatically wrote:
There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point. On December 03 2015 16:25 Chromatically wrote:So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions: Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 15:16 Onegu wrote:On November 25 2015 14:31 ObviousOne wrote:On November 25 2015 14:14 Onegu wrote:
VT Claim Is that a Koshi specific thing? Details? No I am just claiming VT. Have something to talk about post game. Wont bring it up now. I am on side FF looks worse for outing his smurf so early... Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 14:55 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, so I'm thinking the FF smurf thing is NAI - I'm glad it got the conversation started though.
... Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote:
the outing scenario, taken alone:
i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else.
that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote:
I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that? ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense... Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him... lynch ff for sanity And this post makes you fairly scum Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:
Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.
Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.
SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.
Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know). scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners. Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later. OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2. GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu.
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This compared to Onegu who was always here reading. Following the thread. Who has not have an original thought ever. Who DOES NOT HAVE A FUCKING TOWN META OF DOING LITERALLY NOTHING YOU DUMB MORONS, he does less, but still does things for town.
While this game he starts playing to add to the paranoia train on Chrom WITHOUT ANY FUCKING REASONS TO GIVE TOWN.
Ugh. I can't possibly be bothered to push a guy that is completely null over a guy that actually played the game and is most likely town. Just because some braindead fucks decide paranoia is bliss.
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Hopefully we get another save in the next 3 nights. Then we can lynch all the people.
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On December 06 2015 09:11 Koshi wrote:
This compared to Onegu who was always here reading. Following the thread. Who has not have an original thought ever. Who DOES NOT HAVE A FUCKING TOWN META OF DOING LITERALLY NOTHING YOU DUMB MORONS, he does less, but still does things for town.
While this game he starts playing to add to the paranoia train on Chrom WITHOUT ANY FUCKING REASONS TO GIVE TOWN.
Ugh. I can't possibly be bothered to push a guy that is completely null over a guy that actually played the game and is most likely town. Just because some braindead fucks decide paranoia is bliss.
Meh
You're right
We are always lynching Onegu here.
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On December 06 2015 09:09 Koshi wrote:Oh stupid that I wasn't here for shennanies, but explain to me why Chrom would like to kill Onegu and modkill scott? Because that would give town another ml. A ml Chrom needs. Then on top of that, his D3 was fucking awesome and he followed my train of thought perfectly. On top of that, why would he change the killtarget from sicklucker -> Koshi and risk another save on N3? Why would he do work N3, he already bussed for towncred and nobody looked his way?: + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote:
I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means. On December 03 2015 04:17 Chromatically wrote:
I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all On December 03 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote:
It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off. On December 03 2015 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed On December 03 2015 07:03 Chromatically wrote:
There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point. On December 03 2015 16:25 Chromatically wrote:So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions: Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 15:16 Onegu wrote:On November 25 2015 14:31 ObviousOne wrote:On November 25 2015 14:14 Onegu wrote:
VT Claim Is that a Koshi specific thing? Details? No I am just claiming VT. Have something to talk about post game. Wont bring it up now. I am on side FF looks worse for outing his smurf so early... Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 14:55 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, so I'm thinking the FF smurf thing is NAI - I'm glad it got the conversation started though.
... Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote:
the outing scenario, taken alone:
i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else.
that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote:
I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that? ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense... Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him... lynch ff for sanity And this post makes you fairly scum Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:
Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.
Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.
SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.
Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know). scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners. Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later. OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2. GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu.
I thought Chrom voted OO at the shenanigan's time?
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Oh and the bolded can be questioned about any mafia in the game, not only Chrom.
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On November 26 2015 01:12 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 23:52 Koshi wrote:
I also want to point out that everybody who voted is most likely town. Xcept Onegu, who I will not attempt to read ever. Koshi you can read me you just have to make your read then realize you are 100% wrong. Do a 180 and there you go
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I am by far the worst lynch out of the 3 people... OO, Chrome and me
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On December 06 2015 09:30 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 09:09 Koshi wrote:Oh stupid that I wasn't here for shennanies, but explain to me why Chrom would like to kill Onegu and modkill scott? Because that would give town another ml. A ml Chrom needs. Then on top of that, his D3 was fucking awesome and he followed my train of thought perfectly. On top of that, why would he change the killtarget from sicklucker -> Koshi and risk another save on N3? Why would he do work N3, he already bussed for towncred and nobody looked his way?: + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote:
I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means. On December 03 2015 04:17 Chromatically wrote:
I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all On December 03 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote:
It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off. On December 03 2015 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed On December 03 2015 07:03 Chromatically wrote:
There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point. On December 03 2015 16:25 Chromatically wrote:So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions: Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 15:16 Onegu wrote:On November 25 2015 14:31 ObviousOne wrote:On November 25 2015 14:14 Onegu wrote:
VT Claim Is that a Koshi specific thing? Details? No I am just claiming VT. Have something to talk about post game. Wont bring it up now. I am on side FF looks worse for outing his smurf so early... Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 14:55 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, so I'm thinking the FF smurf thing is NAI - I'm glad it got the conversation started though.
... Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote:
the outing scenario, taken alone:
i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else.
that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote:
I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that? ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense... Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him... lynch ff for sanity And this post makes you fairly scum Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:
Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.
Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.
SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.
Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know). scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners. Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later. OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2. GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu. I thought Chrom voted OO at the shenanigan's time?
From what I can read, he wanted Onegu but 2 other wanted OO, so he sheeped them because you need to vote together.
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On December 06 2015 09:11 Koshi wrote:
This compared to Onegu who was always here reading. Following the thread. Who has not have an original thought ever. Who DOES NOT HAVE A FUCKING TOWN META OF DOING LITERALLY NOTHING YOU DUMB MORONS, he does less, but still does things for town.
While this game he starts playing to add to the paranoia train on Chrom WITHOUT ANY FUCKING REASONS TO GIVE TOWN.
Ugh. I can't possibly be bothered to push a guy that is completely null over a guy that actually played the game and is most likely town. Just because some braindead fucks decide paranoia is bliss.
I have done absolutely nothing as town before, but not as scum.
Also it was because I went into the hospital in the middle of this game.
Also scum can thank me for reasons I will talk about post game.
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On December 06 2015 09:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 09:30 GlowingBear wrote:On December 06 2015 09:09 Koshi wrote:Oh stupid that I wasn't here for shennanies, but explain to me why Chrom would like to kill Onegu and modkill scott? Because that would give town another ml. A ml Chrom needs. Then on top of that, his D3 was fucking awesome and he followed my train of thought perfectly. On top of that, why would he change the killtarget from sicklucker -> Koshi and risk another save on N3? Why would he do work N3, he already bussed for towncred and nobody looked his way?: + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote:
I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means. On December 03 2015 04:17 Chromatically wrote:
I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all On December 03 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote:
It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off. On December 03 2015 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed On December 03 2015 07:03 Chromatically wrote:
There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point. On December 03 2015 16:25 Chromatically wrote:So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions: Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 15:16 Onegu wrote:On November 25 2015 14:31 ObviousOne wrote:On November 25 2015 14:14 Onegu wrote:
VT Claim Is that a Koshi specific thing? Details? No I am just claiming VT. Have something to talk about post game. Wont bring it up now. I am on side FF looks worse for outing his smurf so early... Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 14:55 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, so I'm thinking the FF smurf thing is NAI - I'm glad it got the conversation started though.
... Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote:
the outing scenario, taken alone:
i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else.
that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote:
I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that? ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense... Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him... lynch ff for sanity And this post makes you fairly scum Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:
Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.
Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.
SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.
Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know). scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners. Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later. OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2. GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu. I thought Chrom voted OO at the shenanigan's time? From what I can read, he wanted Onegu but 2 other wanted OO, so he sheeped them because you need to vote together.
Also, OO is a ml Chrom needs as mafia.... ffs GB.
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On December 06 2015 09:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 09:30 GlowingBear wrote:On December 06 2015 09:09 Koshi wrote:Oh stupid that I wasn't here for shennanies, but explain to me why Chrom would like to kill Onegu and modkill scott? Because that would give town another ml. A ml Chrom needs. Then on top of that, his D3 was fucking awesome and he followed my train of thought perfectly. On top of that, why would he change the killtarget from sicklucker -> Koshi and risk another save on N3? Why would he do work N3, he already bussed for towncred and nobody looked his way?: + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote:
I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means. On December 03 2015 04:17 Chromatically wrote:
I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all On December 03 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote:
It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off. On December 03 2015 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed On December 03 2015 07:03 Chromatically wrote:
There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point. On December 03 2015 16:25 Chromatically wrote:So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions: Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 15:16 Onegu wrote:On November 25 2015 14:31 ObviousOne wrote:On November 25 2015 14:14 Onegu wrote:
VT Claim Is that a Koshi specific thing? Details? No I am just claiming VT. Have something to talk about post game. Wont bring it up now. I am on side FF looks worse for outing his smurf so early... Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 14:55 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, so I'm thinking the FF smurf thing is NAI - I'm glad it got the conversation started though.
... Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote:
the outing scenario, taken alone:
i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else.
that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote:
I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that? ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense... Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him... lynch ff for sanity And this post makes you fairly scum Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:
Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.
Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.
SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.
Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know). scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners. Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later. OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2. GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu. I thought Chrom voted OO at the shenanigan's time? From what I can read, he wanted Onegu but 2 other wanted OO, so he sheeped them because you need to vote together.
Well, Koshi, if Chrom is the last Mafia he would shenannie on anyone just to have one less ML
No wait
Let me do the math
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Yeah. He would need one less mislynch, Koshi. Any town up for the lynch would help him.
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On December 06 2015 09:38 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 09:34 Koshi wrote:On December 06 2015 09:30 GlowingBear wrote:On December 06 2015 09:09 Koshi wrote:Oh stupid that I wasn't here for shennanies, but explain to me why Chrom would like to kill Onegu and modkill scott? Because that would give town another ml. A ml Chrom needs. Then on top of that, his D3 was fucking awesome and he followed my train of thought perfectly. On top of that, why would he change the killtarget from sicklucker -> Koshi and risk another save on N3? Why would he do work N3, he already bussed for towncred and nobody looked his way?: + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote:
I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means. On December 03 2015 04:17 Chromatically wrote:
I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all On December 03 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote:
It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off. On December 03 2015 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed On December 03 2015 07:03 Chromatically wrote:
There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point. On December 03 2015 16:25 Chromatically wrote:So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions: Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 15:16 Onegu wrote:On November 25 2015 14:31 ObviousOne wrote:On November 25 2015 14:14 Onegu wrote:
VT Claim Is that a Koshi specific thing? Details? No I am just claiming VT. Have something to talk about post game. Wont bring it up now. I am on side FF looks worse for outing his smurf so early... Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 14:55 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, so I'm thinking the FF smurf thing is NAI - I'm glad it got the conversation started though.
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the outing scenario, taken alone:
i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else.
that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote:
I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that? ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense... Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him... lynch ff for sanity And this post makes you fairly scum Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:
Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.
Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.
SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.
Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know). scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners. Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later. OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2. GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu. I thought Chrom voted OO at the shenanigan's time? From what I can read, he wanted Onegu but 2 other wanted OO, so he sheeped them because you need to vote together. Well, Koshi, if Chrom is the last Mafia he would shenannie on anyone just to have one less ML No wait Let me do the math
As mafia he would not want to shennanies because he would lose a ml to town..... But w.e.
He could be mafia, (not really), but his play is superb then. Nobody gives reasons good enough to lynch him over Onegu. Just lynch ONegu and do w.e you want after that. Just lynch Onegu.
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On December 06 2015 09:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Yeah. He would need one less mislynch, Koshi. Any town up for the lynch would help him.
NO HE WOULDN'T?????????????????????????????????????????????????
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As mafia he gives town another flip FFS!
Town has 2 ml at this point.
Let's say Onegu get's modkilled now. (was the other way around if we lynched Onegu and modkill scott)
Then we STILL GOT 2 ml. Which means we can lynch/choose 3 people instead of 2.
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On December 06 2015 09:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 09:38 GlowingBear wrote:On December 06 2015 09:34 Koshi wrote:On December 06 2015 09:30 GlowingBear wrote:On December 06 2015 09:09 Koshi wrote:Oh stupid that I wasn't here for shennanies, but explain to me why Chrom would like to kill Onegu and modkill scott? Because that would give town another ml. A ml Chrom needs. Then on top of that, his D3 was fucking awesome and he followed my train of thought perfectly. On top of that, why would he change the killtarget from sicklucker -> Koshi and risk another save on N3? Why would he do work N3, he already bussed for towncred and nobody looked his way?: + Show Spoiler +On December 03 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote:
I understand GB's thing about scott vs FF today. I don't think his thing about the FF wagon piling up too easily makes a lot of logical sense given his reads but I don't think it makes him a lynch before Onegu by any means. On December 03 2015 04:17 Chromatically wrote:
I really don't think GB is the lynch over FF today at all On December 03 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote:
It's pretty nice how like the whole town circle has essentially the same PoE list. We just have to collectively find one solid town out of there and we should be able to pull this off. On December 03 2015 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
also lol @ FF, "spirits making me actually give a shit about this game" indeed On December 03 2015 07:03 Chromatically wrote:
There's probably a lot of info in those interactions D1 with SL pushing him and people taking sides on that, I'll go check that out at some point. On December 03 2015 16:25 Chromatically wrote:So I read through early D1 again to see how things went down when SL pushed FF for outing his smurf so early. Here are the relevant people's reactions: Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 15:16 Onegu wrote:On November 25 2015 14:31 ObviousOne wrote:On November 25 2015 14:14 Onegu wrote:
VT Claim Is that a Koshi specific thing? Details? No I am just claiming VT. Have something to talk about post game. Wont bring it up now. I am on side FF looks worse for outing his smurf so early... Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 14:55 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, so I'm thinking the FF smurf thing is NAI - I'm glad it got the conversation started though.
... Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 09:08 ObviousOne wrote:
the outing scenario, taken alone:
i take fefe's self-outing to mean that he's town and he wants to win the game, and that he believes his normal town behaviour when not associated with his name will lead to being lynched, therefore he can be himself from the beginning. would be hella easy if he rolled mafia to just go along with staying closeted about his identity and doing literally anything else.
that said, i don't think it's really worth using the situation to judge whether or not he's town in a vacuum so just see where he goes from here Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:18 GlowingBear wrote:On November 25 2015 08:43 sicklucker wrote:On November 25 2015 08:09 Chromatically wrote:
I'm more interested in if he thinks FF is mafia for that? ya probably. Hes afraid he will be outed and coming clean will gain him town cred. Theres no way ff smurfed to reveal himself the 80% of the time he rolled town. It makes no sense... Espiecally since I have never seen him get mafia in like 15 games with him... lynch ff for sanity And this post makes you fairly scum Show nested quote +On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:
Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.
Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.
SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.
Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere Out of these, I would say that scott and Onegu's are the worst (huge information, I know). scott gives as little of an opinion on it as humanly possible, just says that it's NAI and passes. Very easy for mafia to do, want to avoid giving opinions on their partners. Onegu says that FF looks worse for outing his smurf, but then never mentions FF again after it. He leaves his vote on Koshi all of D1 for no reason over someone he thinks is scummy (this part could just be him not playing at all). I think this reaction makes a lot of sense from mafia who know that the points on FF are correct but don't want to actually push them by bringing it up later. OO at least takes a stance on the issue. SL brought up earlier that mafia would probably have followed my argument against him and OO is the prime culprit of that, but it's a better reaction than scott/Onegu's at least. And since everyone else is convinced about him, I'm fine not dealing with him until after we have mafia #2. GB goes as far as to call SL mafia for his push, which would be a kind of bold move for mafia but it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. So scott and Onegu look scummier, OO and GB mostly null. Not super helpful conclusions but it does make me feel good about lynching scott and Onegu. I thought Chrom voted OO at the shenanigan's time? From what I can read, he wanted Onegu but 2 other wanted OO, so he sheeped them because you need to vote together. Well, Koshi, if Chrom is the last Mafia he would shenannie on anyone just to have one less ML No wait Let me do the math As mafia he would not want to shennanies because he would lose a ml to town..... But w.e. He could be mafia, (not really), but his play is superb then. Nobody gives reasons good enough to lynch him over Onegu. Just lynch ONegu and do w.e you want after that. Just lynch Onegu.
I will lynch Onegu because that's objectively the best play.
Koshi he can try to mislynch anyone, he is already top town. LYLO would be 4 people instead of final 3. One less mislynch he needs to accomplish
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