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ObviousOne
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Onegu - disavows responsibility to be proactive boxerfred - looks like participation for participation's sake so far sicklucker - entirety of filter is regarding FF smurfing preliminary scum pool by poe via feels and what i can remember of those not listed here, WIP | ||
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ObviousOne
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thanksgiving is coming i guess that's why i got the mail reminding me to vote. anyone looking for sheeple? | ||
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ObviousOne
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this feels like the slowest day 1 I've been a part of on this site in ages, if not ever. not for lack of posts but for lack of substance. i thought the wordy derpy phase we had at the start was indicative of a bunch of people who wanted to talk but that doesn't seem to be the case. this has led to an environment where the mafia don't have to post at all to blend in, because so few topics have been discussed. i know obviously i'm a part of this particular problem, but it's also become something of a systemic issue. koshi who is arguably one of the greater forces in this game has it in his head that people will run his errands, which is fine as a character but is kind of silly to expect anyone to jump however high it is he expects. his effort to assert dominance can have subtle effects on the game. a sort of bystander effect where everyone who wants the same information might end up waiting for another person to do it, therefore nobody does it, and nothing is accomplished. the paradigm that comes along with setting himself up as the tip of the power pyramid which may or may no be in jest, i've played with koshi before and he's had a similar attitude about things. nobody wants or needs to challenge him so the whole thing is hollow anyway. like i said before, plenty of room in the shadows with the rest of us. the issue with having marv in game is that everyone expects godly-play town or shitty-play mafia, when it's probably a bit of both that he's aiming for. posting less when town and slightly more than he feels comfortable with as mafia is how he gets to balance his play so he's not immediately outed when he's mafia. no idea what his alignment is and really nobody should care what he does until he, you know, does something. more useless conversation around this topic. i have preconceptions about vivax that lead me to believe he is capable of much more but is phoning it in this game. i had the same feeling before in student mafia xv and he was town there, so it might be melding the town and mafia sides of his play or that might just be i need to lower my expectations considerably. the difference between marv and vivax is that i don't have any personal heuristics on how to read vivax whatsoever. fuck, in that student game he pretty much blew off all my questions and i was kinda miffed about the whole thing. tictock still in my talent pool for today's lynch but not feeling it as strongly as others are, haven't really reviewed his recent posts but he's out of the top of the list for now sn0 could be added to it i think, but that's a reflection of my thoughts regarding how things seem to usually go down when marv is in a game. i sort of like the idea he had to avoid starting a conflict with SL in favor of seeing tictock's response to his wagon. ugh but the smurf stuff and the marv stuff. icky mess. boxer situation is hilarious but not gonna take him off my candidate list for today. fefe hasn't hit his stride yet or is mafia, don't know which. as for scott, for some reason i have it in my mind that he just rarely actually participates (at least in games we're been in together, pretty sure he's been modkilled in one of them), and that's been when he was town. so i can't judge him based on his participation / engagement. can reflect on him if we find out for sure tictock's or maybe even GB's alignment. feeling less good about SL but there seems to be the feeling of progression in his filter and i owe him a HJ for saving my life last game. honestly i should just delete this instead of posting it but whatever strongest to weakest feels regarding likelihood of mafianess {boxer onegu} strongerest {sn0 SL fefe} less stronk {tictock scott vivax} middling {everyone else} oh look a pyramid scheme koshi wouldn't want to be at the top of, lel i'm not locked into this vote but i better vote so i don't get rekt between onegu and boxer i'm gonna go with the 'gu bc boxer made a funny #vote: onegu | ||
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ObviousOne
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On November 26 2015 19:52 ANickelDrink wrote: This post really feels like coasting along to me The spoiler complains about the low activity and koshi/marv which is whatever. He says Vivax isn't a good lynch because he was town one time where he ignored OO's questions. The bolded says that OO has a personal heuristic for playing with marv but provides no read on marv. So if you haven't read tictocks recent posts why is he 'out' of the top of your list? Because others started to go on him? That's an odd reason? What do the smurf stuff and marv have to do with sn0_man? You say he's a possible lynch target but only list a thing you like about his play the classic: don't really talk about FF but keep him open for later. I've seen this before. Explain what my stride is as town please. Pretty sure this will be a mess of a post but oh well your stride as in something meaningful i can look at and say hey this looks good to me or this is batshit insane, be the active game you want to see. of course if you can describe how based on your posts this game so far i can clear you when your major beef so far has been with me and i know i'm town, despite having played together in student mafix xv where you saw the trainwreck style i play sn0: last four posts of filter, more useless marv meta discussion marv: he's readable when he's playing, right now he's toying with his food like a cat to a live mouse, or just fucking about intentionally, remains to be seen, obviously i agree there isn't a lot go to on tic: made a long string of posts in absence of other players, sounds like reasonable mindset, content-wise i'm too tired to read them as i'm about to go to bed, but i was acknowledging their existence and skimmed them. no alarm bells. | ||
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ObviousOne
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ObviousOne
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On November 26 2015 20:10 Tictock wrote: Why Onegu? that's what I want to know... Or do you just plan to make the game more active by lynching the least actives in order? he wanted to be asked questions, that's the last we heard of him. are you seeing anything alignment indicative in his filter? i'm going to answer for you: no. that always bothers me. i'm always willing to lynch inactives on d1 especially if the impetus of an impending lynch gets them to a readable state. | ||
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ObviousOne
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ObviousOne
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On November 26 2015 20:15 marvellosity wrote: you should know i don't really ever do this take what i say at face value either you believe i'm not really sure what's going on, or i'm mafia who can't be bothered to play. there isn't a town option of purposefully fucking around/being bad, because i don't like that i accept that and i think it's more of a way i choose to word things than it is a reflection on you, sorry | ||
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ObviousOne
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On November 27 2015 03:52 Koshi wrote: I mean.... Chrom & OO are getting after each other quite openly. Are we paying attention to this? It is odd no? Look at that superweak Chrom read. bruh that superweak townread was hours into the game in any case please flesh out the chrom read, i see you're voting him but none of the development towards it makes sense to me also, leaving the house right now but i've got my old-as-f ipod which might let me participate slightly at my destination time permitting | ||
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ObviousOne
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nor would i vote for ticktock on a day one in this game either based on his recovery before going to bed two nights ago, but i still haven't given the game a proper re-read to see if he's someone that deserves to be up for a day two lynch or not, that's something I'll look into later. so with the information i had to wit and the list of people i would be willing to lynch how could i possibly vote for either of them if i had zero confidence in one of them being mafia? in my mind onegu was a better candidate because it's possible there might never be anything there to read until it's too late to deal with it. finally, calling my reactions overreactions is subjective compared to other people and if you want to see how they are not overreactions you'll want to look at maybe one or two of my previous town games and how i react to suspicion, since i can't necessarily trust anyone here to factually report on that, nor would i expect anyone to defend me at this stage considering how well i always fit in a mafia line up all the time. | ||
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ObviousOne
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On November 28 2015 09:26 Koshi wrote: I would have shot OO? ##Vote: ObviousOne If it was near end of night and Chrom came back. I don't know. I just don't know. I guess I could vote the snowman as well. Maybe let's start with that. ##unvote ##vote Snowman ok ##vote sn0 | ||
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ObviousOne
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On November 29 2015 07:33 ANickelDrink wrote: Did only koshi and chrome play my pretend vigi game? That's no fun at all Hours ago I would have said TT having been the other wagon but I just re-read his filter and now I would say Chrom for how retardedly 1-demensional and shallow I perceive his tunnels D1 to be. sry no musical accompaniment | ||
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ObviousOne
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On November 29 2015 08:08 ANickelDrink wrote: flesh out that chrome read it sounds like something solid point 1: his idea of how i went about interrogating sl regarding his rolehunting "joke" was apparently so bad it must have come from mafia, not from a genuinely confused and interrogative townie. never considered this, suits a specific agenda point 2: sucking up to GB/marv, one who we know is town and the other who i'm relatively confident is town point 3: vote on vivax justified by a playstyle choice alone, that vivax wanted to focus on one agenda instead of multiple, which i guess is his thing now. point 4: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25151168 "I thought [they were mafia]" implying he doesn't think that at the time of this post or he's unaware he's leaking his knows our alignments point 5: his vivax vote post feels like how i would "choose" between two town wagons as maf, or in the case that my read on TT is completely off then obviously the town wagon instead of the mafia wagon. there's some feelers for you | ||
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ObviousOne
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ObviousOne
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On November 30 2015 12:14 Koshi wrote: Just go for OO next. Scum made it so that vote switch couldn't happen. just so you can reflect on it if you want to, both wagons ended up being town. you're the only person i entrust with this information. i can't be boffed to compare how people voted versus day 1 but maybe vivax had a point. | ||
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ObviousOne
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ObviousOne
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7. No lynch is not allowed. Self voting is allowed. Mafia not using their shot is allowed. sick mafia strategy pretend the mafia team isn't playing so any lurker is a candidate for a swift no-fuss low-activity victory. gr8 b8 m8 | ||
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ObviousOne
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thank you for comfirmation | ||
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ObviousOne
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ObviousOne
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what if i just say please, don't lynch me? | ||
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