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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 01 2015 23:39 GMT
#161
So now that we've correctly concluded that you don't believe it is a "nightmare" for scum. Why did you open with that?
Minimal effort.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 01 2015 23:42 GMT
#162
On November 02 2015 08:39 Superbia wrote:
So now that we've correctly concluded that you don't believe it is a "nightmare" for scum. Why did you open with that?


What have we concluded? Even if it's only slightly unfavorable in the big picture to have no communication, it still seems seriously annoying and has the potential to cause instant losses. Especially if the scumteam doesn't know how to play the game enough.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 01 2015 23:46 GMT
#163
Well, it's not *that* big after me and rayn eliminated the biggest hurdle already, but still...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 01 2015 23:50 GMT
#164
Regardless, it's something to keep in mind when looking at the future votes and stuff. They can't organize at all, which should be helpful.

Did you still have something you needed to ask about the topic?

Seems a bit sad that it's only you and me here.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 01 2015 23:53 GMT
#165
Yes. It is.

I still don't like your opening post because it seems overly distancing. If you know what I mean. I really still don't like it at all. Hope you bring some good logic to the table for the rest of the day.

No clue where the rest is. About to go to sleep myself. Just finished the most retarded challenge on binding of isaac (brains challenge, fuck that shit).
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 01 2015 23:54 GMT
#166
Nothing more on the topic really. It's a dead-end at this point. Have to see how you interact with others/rest of day to fully make up my mind.
Minimal effort.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 01 2015 23:54 GMT
#167
So?

I still can't really wrap my head around that heavy(?) scumread. It's just too flimsy and hasty. Or was it pressure? In that case I could understand... And even appreciate it. If it's a real scumread, it gets tough to see the logic behind it.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 01 2015 23:56 GMT
#168
It's a mild scum-read, for now.
Minimal effort.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 01 2015 23:56 GMT
#169
On November 02 2015 08:54 Superbia wrote:
Nothing more on the topic really. It's a dead-end at this point. Have to see how you interact with others/rest of day to fully make up my mind.


Hm......

That's a bit of a vague way to put it.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 01 2015 23:56 GMT
#170
On November 02 2015 08:56 Superbia wrote:
It's a mild scum-read, for now.


That's clearer :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 01 2015 23:59 GMT
#171
All right, I'm off.
Minimal effort.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 01 2015 23:59 GMT
#172
Hi everybody!

Penultimate leader checking in.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 02 2015 00:00 GMT
#173
Well, I mostly hope Half the Sky would appear. A great deal will depend on her alignment. Such as if her proposed team can even be considered.

Next up seems to be me... That's nice. Should be enough time to find two townies by that time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 02 2015 00:02 GMT
#174
Damn... Am I just antepenultimate because I forgot to claim penultimate?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 02 2015 00:06 GMT
#175
kita, did you get anything out of our furious exchange just now?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 02 2015 00:19 GMT
#176
Either there's an elaborate essay incoming or that was a really weak entry....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 02 2015 00:29 GMT
#177
I guess there isn't anything.

Can't say either kita or Superbia left good impressions yet. kita for just ignoring everything and leaving, and Superbia for announcing some long-term scumread (??) based on me saying that the lack of communications should be a mess for scum...

Eagerly anticipating Half the Sky's entry... I go to sleep.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 02 2015 01:16 GMT
#178
On November 02 2015 09:06 Xatalos wrote:
kita, did you get anything out of our furious exchange just now?


I'd say people stating that they are happy that they didn't roll mafia typically increases their chances of being mafia, though I don't know if that actually holds true.

Super stating that his read will be based on how you interact with others and you proceeding to go out of your way to interact with me could be interpreted as you trying to influence his views.

Neither of these points lead to more than a "meh"

Does anyone know if one faction typically wins more often than the other in a standard resistance setup or is it pretty close to 50/50? I'm not all that familiar with how the games usually play out myself. Right now I'm toying with a rng scenarios to see how they play out.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 02 2015 01:45 GMT
#179
Hmm so assuming you are a resistance leader, if you include yourself and pick two other players at random you have a 36% chance of selecting a clean team. If you choose to select three players are random, the odds drop down to 18%. I'd hope our true odds of success are going to be better than this when we rely on a selection method other than rng, but this is just an example of the difference between the two strategies.

The reason I ran through these numbers was to decide whether or not we should enforce a policy that the leader cannot nominate themselves. Allowing the spy to nominate themselves gives them a free pass for a tainted group, while not allowing a self-nomination forces them to select a teammate.

I don't think the advantage of removing spy self-nominations would be worth the trade off of dropping the resistance leader success rate in half so I would encourage resistance leaders to not try anything fancy and exclude themselves. Do others agree?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 02 2015 02:01 GMT
#180
you bastards better not send me on any suicide missions
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