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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 11:45 GMT
#1201
On November 05 2015 09:46 sicklucker wrote:
like i would never put up a team that didnt include me so its hard to be mad at xata for it


Yeah....

Looking pretty good atm. Glad that SL has become a bit more active, and the things he says are pretty much spontaneous/carefree. Quite confident that the team is all-town.

Let's see....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 11:47 GMT
#1202
On November 05 2015 12:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Also brings me to my next point, who ever is pushing for me as mafia. I would say to start looking there - there's definitely mafia hiding there.


Btw could you explain why you voted yes on the last team even though it included rayn, your scumread?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 11:49 GMT
#1203
Well, I guess you didn't "directly" (??) call him scum, but pretty much most of your posts suspected him some way or another..,.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 11:52 GMT
#1204
On November 05 2015 05:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 05:26 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 05 2015 02:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I also don't need to place myself on my own team if I'm confident on who is town. Back to work.


The problem that I have here is that you said you would pass every combination except the xat + rayn combo. rayn really seems to be the player you were most suspicious of on day one, yet you sent it through.

Also, don't get discouraged by everyone scum reading you if you are indeed town. People are going to reject pretty much anything you say if the hive mind is against you. Just keep trucking and maybe it will help sometime down the road


The reason I passed it was because if a sabotage happened on the first mission, then that can just fuel the suspicion even more and more people would start to see what I'm talking about. Also, Idc if people scum read me, I've been playing TL Mafia since the mafia forums first opened ;p


What.....?

So you WANT scum on the mission >.>
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 11:53 GMT
#1205
Urg... Hurting my head to think of a way this could possibly be town shockeyy' genuine thoughts....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 11:54 GMT
#1206
I guess it's just Occam's razor at this point
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 11:59 GMT
#1207
On November 05 2015 09:03 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 08:56 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 05 2015 08:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Aiming for until 12:30am or so... (another 45m) so if anyone wants to talk, please do.


You don't need give details or anything, but where would you everyone one through nine in terms of trustworthiness?


With nine being most trustworthy

kitaman27 6
ShoCkeyy 2 at most
Rels - um, zero?
Artanis[Xp] 7-8
Xatalos 7
Superbia 6
raynpelikoneet - 8-9
sicklucker 5 at most (although I'm atm trying to evaluate him on what he does have...)

I am aware that Rels, you, Superbia have pretty damned capable scum games so there is some caution with some of the ratings.


What do you think of SL now that he's posted a bit more?

Btw I keep back coming to wonder how you preferred Kita/Superbia to me last time when you say they both have amazing scum play.,,,
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 05 2015 12:34 GMT
#1208
Xata, I will most likely upvote this team. sicklucker seems okay (and obviously fine with you and rayn). Admittedly I'd feel better with an easier-to-read Artanis but as of now I see no reason to disapprove a team with sicklucker on it.

And re: Shockey's post you quoted, um yeah, if you are playing the conventional resistance strategy you want the first mission to pass as much as possible. So the explanation should have otherwise been why he felt the first team was all town. Several people now have taken issue with the alternate strategy.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 12:57 GMT
#1209
It's more that he was voting yes when his reads were (at least I think so) only rayn being suspect on the team.... I could understand if he scumread the whole team, but... That's just the worst possible outcome he went for.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 05 2015 13:00 GMT
#1210
On November 05 2015 19:59 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 18:45 Rels wrote:
On November 05 2015 18:36 sicklucker wrote:
when i said the team is all town i ment me/rayn/artanis there..

Oh. This makes sense with this:
On November 05 2015 09:05 sicklucker wrote:
whats the current team so i know what im voting no on



....

I went to sleep when xata submitted his team but there was like 12-16 hours for him to check it since i last checked the thread

Did you feel attacked by this post ?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 13:01 GMT
#1211
Admittedly, his reads are pretty hard to make sense of. Further explanation would be nice.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 13:03 GMT
#1212
Rels, thoughts on the current team?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 05 2015 13:06 GMT
#1213
On November 05 2015 20:52 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 05:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 05 2015 05:26 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 05 2015 02:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I also don't need to place myself on my own team if I'm confident on who is town. Back to work.


The problem that I have here is that you said you would pass every combination except the xat + rayn combo. rayn really seems to be the player you were most suspicious of on day one, yet you sent it through.

Also, don't get discouraged by everyone scum reading you if you are indeed town. People are going to reject pretty much anything you say if the hive mind is against you. Just keep trucking and maybe it will help sometime down the road


The reason I passed it was because if a sabotage happened on the first mission, then that can just fuel the suspicion even more and more people would start to see what I'm talking about. Also, Idc if people scum read me, I've been playing TL Mafia since the mafia forums first opened ;p


What.....?

So you WANT scum on the mission >.>

Shockey, I thought you agreed since you though a fail would prove rayn was scum ? That's not the same explanation at all.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 05 2015 13:06 GMT
#1214
On November 05 2015 22:01 Xatalos wrote:
Admittedly, his reads are pretty hard to make sense of. Further explanation would be nice.


Well apparently not for rayn (or Superbia IIRC), of course there can only be one rayn.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 05 2015 13:07 GMT
#1215
On November 05 2015 21:57 Xatalos wrote:
It's more that he was voting yes when his reads were (at least I think so) only rayn being suspect on the team.... I could understand if he scumread the whole team, but... That's just the worst possible outcome he went for.


Did I miss something? Or probably misread...eh maybe I might have to filter dive one more time then around dinner. Still swamped today otherwise at work and probably will only leave the office 2100 at the earliest.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 13:10 GMT
#1216
On November 05 2015 22:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 21:57 Xatalos wrote:
It's more that he was voting yes when his reads were (at least I think so) only rayn being suspect on the team.... I could understand if he scumread the whole team, but... That's just the worst possible outcome he went for.


Did I miss something? Or probably misread...eh maybe I might have to filter dive one more time then around dinner. Still swamped today otherwise at work and probably will only leave the office 2100 at the earliest.


I might have misunderstood him as well, but that's what I got..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 05 2015 13:10 GMT
#1217
On November 05 2015 22:03 Xatalos wrote:
Rels, thoughts on the current team?

rayn and you are town. SL I'm not sure. Nothing scummy, but he's not doing much. Arta tomorrow will probably elect you / rayn / him; my vote will depend on who I think is towniest between SL and Arta at deadline. Waiting on Arta's answers to me + his analysis on me he said he would do.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#1218
Hm... I guess it'll be interesting to see how this turns out. From my point of view, SL has looked pretty decent today.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 05 2015 13:17 GMT
#1219
On November 05 2015 20:59 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 09:03 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 05 2015 08:56 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 05 2015 08:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Aiming for until 12:30am or so... (another 45m) so if anyone wants to talk, please do.


You don't need give details or anything, but where would you everyone one through nine in terms of trustworthiness?


With nine being most trustworthy

kitaman27 6
ShoCkeyy 2 at most
Rels - um, zero?
Artanis[Xp] 7-8
Xatalos 7
Superbia 6
raynpelikoneet - 8-9
sicklucker 5 at most (although I'm atm trying to evaluate him on what he does have...)

I am aware that Rels, you, Superbia have pretty damned capable scum games so there is some caution with some of the ratings.


What do you think of SL now that he's posted a bit more?

Btw I keep back coming to wonder how you preferred Kita/Superbia to me last time when you say they both have amazing scum play.,,,


Btw I don't think you commented on this?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 05 2015 13:26 GMT
#1220
On November 05 2015 22:17 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 20:59 Xatalos wrote:
On November 05 2015 09:03 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 05 2015 08:56 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 05 2015 08:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Aiming for until 12:30am or so... (another 45m) so if anyone wants to talk, please do.


You don't need give details or anything, but where would you everyone one through nine in terms of trustworthiness?


With nine being most trustworthy

kitaman27 6
ShoCkeyy 2 at most
Rels - um, zero?
Artanis[Xp] 7-8
Xatalos 7
Superbia 6
raynpelikoneet - 8-9
sicklucker 5 at most (although I'm atm trying to evaluate him on what he does have...)

I am aware that Rels, you, Superbia have pretty damned capable scum games so there is some caution with some of the ratings.


What do you think of SL now that he's posted a bit more?

Btw I keep back coming to wonder how you preferred Kita/Superbia to me last time when you say they both have amazing scum play.,,,


Btw I don't think you commented on this?


It was their most recent posts that I cited at the time, and yes I looked at both possible angles for those posts (mafia or town mindset) and being familiar with their town games I felt those respective posts were town.

(There are game mechanics posts from Kita before and after the fact that I felt could come from either alignment but those were not the ones in question.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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