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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 16:34 GMT
#488
On November 03 2015 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Rels do you think rayn is scum or not?

He's a townlean right now. That probably won't change for the better until a mission he's part of succeeds.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 16:34 GMT
#490
On November 03 2015 01:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 01:17 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:02 Xatalos wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Rels why do you actually think i am town?

I'm not sure you are. You're attacking people over small logical things and you are thinking about the game as a whole; that is town indicative, but I know you can replicate that as town; at least that what you and several other people claimed before.


Hm... Who would replace rayn then?

In which team ? rayn could be town so I'm OK with him in a team; I would prefer you / Xata / me though.

I fully support this team.

Hi!

You fully support Xata / Xata / Rels ? Yeah, good team.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 16:36 GMT
#492
On November 03 2015 01:35 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 01:31 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:28 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:26 Xatalos wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:21 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:13 Xatalos wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:08 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:01 Xatalos wrote:
Yeah, HTS/rayn/Xata could work... HTS has seemed pretty focused on solving the game


How do you differentiate HTS solving the game as town from HTS setting herself up as a likely nomination as spy by bringing along active players? Were there certain posts that you can point me to that suggest she is analyzing things from only a town perspective?


Well, she's clearly reading the thread and making original findings. Such as the way I inquired Superbia about his townread on me, or how you were making filler posts here and there.... She's also coming to pretty good conclusions from those findings. Hard to ask for more at this point.

She's not clearly reading the thread. That's three things she misread, and three things about me too:
1 - TMI stuff (she thought I did it, when it was Superbia)
2 - Disagreeing on rayn (she thought I said rayn was scum, when I said he wouldn't ask dumb questions)
3 - Dumb questions (she asked me why I thought rayn wouldn't ask dumb questions, when I already stated he actually didn't)


I may have missed something, but why did you say he wouldn't ask dumb questions if you didn't mean he was scum for it?


That is exactly what I meant by that. Dumb questions - nowhere - scum implication.

>_<

It does for rayn, as he gets angry when he's being asked dumb questions; why would he do it as town ?


??????

Why would he do it as town? There's no rhyme or reason to that, he just does, other than he's explicitly said he doesn't deal with stupidity.

Or am I misunderstanding you? Why would he do it as town - from context you mean get angry?

Holy hell, I think we might be talking around each other. I am finding your posts extremely tenuous this game, and I know I've said that at least once before.

The sentence should read "Why would he ask a dumb question ?"
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 16:37 GMT
#496
On November 03 2015 01:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 01:34 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Rels do you think rayn is scum or not?

He's a townlean right now. That probably won't change for the better until a mission he's part of succeeds.


Why do you think he's a town lean? Do you still want him to not be part of the first team?

Cause he's attacking people over logical things, has hard townreads and is trying to solve the game as a whole. That's his town meta. I'm OK with him being part of the first team.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 16:41 GMT
#500
On November 03 2015 01:39 Half the Sky wrote:
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On November 03 2015 01:36 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:35 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:31 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:28 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:26 Xatalos wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:21 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:13 Xatalos wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:08 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:01 Xatalos wrote:
Yeah, HTS/rayn/Xata could work... HTS has seemed pretty focused on solving the game


How do you differentiate HTS solving the game as town from HTS setting herself up as a likely nomination as spy by bringing along active players? Were there certain posts that you can point me to that suggest she is analyzing things from only a town perspective?


Well, she's clearly reading the thread and making original findings. Such as the way I inquired Superbia about his townread on me, or how you were making filler posts here and there.... She's also coming to pretty good conclusions from those findings. Hard to ask for more at this point.

She's not clearly reading the thread. That's three things she misread, and three things about me too:
1 - TMI stuff (she thought I did it, when it was Superbia)
2 - Disagreeing on rayn (she thought I said rayn was scum, when I said he wouldn't ask dumb questions)
3 - Dumb questions (she asked me why I thought rayn wouldn't ask dumb questions, when I already stated he actually didn't)


I may have missed something, but why did you say he wouldn't ask dumb questions if you didn't mean he was scum for it?


That is exactly what I meant by that. Dumb questions - nowhere - scum implication.

>_<

It does for rayn, as he gets angry when he's being asked dumb questions; why would he do it as town ?


??????

Why would he do it as town? There's no rhyme or reason to that, he just does, other than he's explicitly said he doesn't deal with stupidity.

Or am I misunderstanding you? Why would he do it as town - from context you mean get angry?

Holy hell, I think we might be talking around each other. I am finding your posts extremely tenuous this game, and I know I've said that at least once before.

The sentence should read "Why would he ask a dumb question ?"


Okay if this is the case, then no rayn wouldn't ask a dumb question as town, but then that takes me back to my previous post about me disagreeing with you that his questions were actually dumb.

*throws her hands up in defeat*

Maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree here.

But in the post you quoted, I said it was actually not a dumb question (= let me find the quote
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 16:41 GMT
#501
On November 03 2015 00:56 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 23:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 02 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 23:12 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 02 2015 23:01 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:19 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
That's interesting since there are five people who have posted something that can actually be at least considered as content. If you exclude yourself from the pool, that leaves you four people. Now for you, it is impossible that those four people are al scum -- there has to be at least one townie in them.

So what, do you think we are all scum or what?

No. That is a dumb question. I'm pretty sure you were the one refusing the answer dumb questions like "are you mafia ?", maybe in the newbie game with noobking. Let me check that.

What i am trying to say that i find it suspicious you are not trying to make reads yet, and i think that is not normal for you. Especially when this is not a situation where making reads does not help anything (unlike for example if in a mafia game you think everyone who has posted so far are town).

If i compared this to a normal mafia this would be a situation where you know at least one of the people who have posted is mafia for sure but you are refusing to figure it out further.

OK bro. I don't have townreads on anyone that posted. I don't have scumreads on them either. I have suspicions on Superbia, kita and you.


This post seems somewhat contradictory (not the only post I'll comment on from Rels). Based on the sentences bolded you should in theory be scumleaning the three you listed. I'm also not clear on why you are scumreading rayn or what is jumping out at yoru scumread on rayn. I understand your argument for your initial exchange on Superbia/Xatalos is that Superbia's read on Xatalos was manufactured and I'm seeing your followup on page 16, but where was the suspicion on rayn coming from page 11?

I thought this question was scummy:
On November 02 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I take it that you don't have any townreads Rels?

No.

That's interesting since there are five people who have posted something that can actually be at least considered as content. If you exclude yourself from the pool, that leaves you four people. Now for you, it is impossible that those four people are al scum -- there has to be at least one townie in them.

So what, do you think we are all scum or what?

No. That is a dumb question. I'm pretty sure you were the one refusing the answer dumb questions like "are you mafia ?", maybe in the newbie game with noobking. Let me check that.


On November 02 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:
Also Rels, my post on shockey was because of him saying he's catching up, he hadn't posted jack all before that.

It indicates that you read the thread, or at least the last few posts starting page 16, when you said you were stuck on page 12. Not sure it's alignement indicative but I have no idea why you would lie about that.


I don't see how that made rayn scummy. He's coming to conclusions with his arguments and he's trying to see if you are coming to conclusions on people's alignments which is generally a town trait. And if you are struggling, why, townies can struggle with getting reads too (reference rsoultin in Drams) so naturally he's nitpicking to see your rationale.


Mm maybe I didn't explain why I thought it was scummy.
On November 02 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I take it that you don't have any townreads Rels?

No.

That's interesting since there are five people who have posted something that can actually be at least considered as content. If you exclude yourself from the pool, that leaves you four people. Now for you, it is impossible that those four people are al scum -- there has to be at least one townie in them.

So what, do you think we are all scum or what?

No. That is a dumb question. I'm pretty sure you were the one refusing the answer dumb questions like "are you mafia ?", maybe in the newbie game with noobking. Let me check that.

Oh I actually did!

The scummy isn't nitpicking specific points, which is something town!rayn always do; the problem was asking a dumb question, when I remembered him getting angry at the fact he was being ask a dumb question, so I don't know why he would do this himself. Now rayn quoted the angry post, and it was not really the same context.


Admittedly I'm finding this tenuous but after reading a few times I think I am understanding your viewpoint, you are saying that rayn isn't acting consistently between games (correct?). I don't agree this makes him scum, but I can at least see this. My only thing here - "are you mafia?" he and others have done this (example: Koshi - "how mafia are you?") out of spite/emotion, and I'm not sure such types of questions can really be taken seriously nor most people who ask them don't really expect, those questions are out of emotion imo - how can people really answer?

For example when Koshi does this he accompanies that question with something else to substantiate that emotion (reference: Void), rayn does the same thing except he splits his posts up (reference SOTW I believe).

The reason I disagreed with the question being dumb because I saw the purposes and how he reached his conclusions from the questions asked.

Am I making sense here?


You are making sense. You are wrong concerning rayn. I don't see him asking dumb questions like that. In fact, he gets angry when he's being asked dumb questions. But I agree the "do you really have 4 scumreads ?" was more of an accusation that a dumb question.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 16:43 GMT
#505
Alright leaving work.
HTS, I won't vote a team you or Superbia are part of atm. Obviously that could change between now or deadline. I'm OK with Xata / kita / rayn / me.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 16:45 GMT
#510
On November 03 2015 01:43 Xatalos wrote:
Uh.... Rels, I think you could have expressed yourself more clearly there. I guess you stopped considering his questions dumb in that one post... And then started townreading him? It's a bit hard to follow how everything went for you.

Dunno, it's clear in my head. It was actually a few hours ago that I dropped this "dumb question" stuff, since this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497443-resistance-v-section-31?page=13#257
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 16:46 GMT
#511
On November 03 2015 01:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 01:41 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2015 00:56 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 23:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 02 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 23:12 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 02 2015 23:01 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:19 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
What i am trying to say that i find it suspicious you are not trying to make reads yet, and i think that is not normal for you. Especially when this is not a situation where making reads does not help anything (unlike for example if in a mafia game you think everyone who has posted so far are town).

If i compared this to a normal mafia this would be a situation where you know at least one of the people who have posted is mafia for sure but you are refusing to figure it out further.

OK bro. I don't have townreads on anyone that posted. I don't have scumreads on them either. I have suspicions on Superbia, kita and you.


This post seems somewhat contradictory (not the only post I'll comment on from Rels). Based on the sentences bolded you should in theory be scumleaning the three you listed. I'm also not clear on why you are scumreading rayn or what is jumping out at yoru scumread on rayn. I understand your argument for your initial exchange on Superbia/Xatalos is that Superbia's read on Xatalos was manufactured and I'm seeing your followup on page 16, but where was the suspicion on rayn coming from page 11?

I thought this question was scummy:
On November 02 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
[quote]
No.

That's interesting since there are five people who have posted something that can actually be at least considered as content. If you exclude yourself from the pool, that leaves you four people. Now for you, it is impossible that those four people are al scum -- there has to be at least one townie in them.

So what, do you think we are all scum or what?

No. That is a dumb question. I'm pretty sure you were the one refusing the answer dumb questions like "are you mafia ?", maybe in the newbie game with noobking. Let me check that.


On November 02 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:
Also Rels, my post on shockey was because of him saying he's catching up, he hadn't posted jack all before that.

It indicates that you read the thread, or at least the last few posts starting page 16, when you said you were stuck on page 12. Not sure it's alignement indicative but I have no idea why you would lie about that.


I don't see how that made rayn scummy. He's coming to conclusions with his arguments and he's trying to see if you are coming to conclusions on people's alignments which is generally a town trait. And if you are struggling, why, townies can struggle with getting reads too (reference rsoultin in Drams) so naturally he's nitpicking to see your rationale.


Mm maybe I didn't explain why I thought it was scummy.
On November 02 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I take it that you don't have any townreads Rels?

No.

That's interesting since there are five people who have posted something that can actually be at least considered as content. If you exclude yourself from the pool, that leaves you four people. Now for you, it is impossible that those four people are al scum -- there has to be at least one townie in them.

So what, do you think we are all scum or what?

No. That is a dumb question. I'm pretty sure you were the one refusing the answer dumb questions like "are you mafia ?", maybe in the newbie game with noobking. Let me check that.

Oh I actually did!

The scummy isn't nitpicking specific points, which is something town!rayn always do; the problem was asking a dumb question, when I remembered him getting angry at the fact he was being ask a dumb question, so I don't know why he would do this himself. Now rayn quoted the angry post, and it was not really the same context.


Admittedly I'm finding this tenuous but after reading a few times I think I am understanding your viewpoint, you are saying that rayn isn't acting consistently between games (correct?). I don't agree this makes him scum, but I can at least see this. My only thing here - "are you mafia?" he and others have done this (example: Koshi - "how mafia are you?") out of spite/emotion, and I'm not sure such types of questions can really be taken seriously nor most people who ask them don't really expect, those questions are out of emotion imo - how can people really answer?

For example when Koshi does this he accompanies that question with something else to substantiate that emotion (reference: Void), rayn does the same thing except he splits his posts up (reference SOTW I believe).

The reason I disagreed with the question being dumb because I saw the purposes and how he reached his conclusions from the questions asked.

Am I making sense here?


You are making sense. You are wrong concerning rayn. I don't see him asking dumb questions like that. In fact, he gets angry when he's being asked dumb questions. But I agree the "do you really have 4 scumreads ?" was more of an accusation that a dumb question.



Yeah I saw that part, but the underlined is what I was referring to. And you said I (my read) at that time was wrong on rayn. And I also interpreted that as you including the "are you mafia" part as a dumb question. Not just even thinking about the 4 scumreads part.

Now do you see why we're going about in circles here?

LOL yeah p: I was explaining myself from before in the underlined post. I disagreed on you on the fact that rayn would ask dumb question, that's it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 16:47 GMT
#515
On November 03 2015 01:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 01:37 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:34 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Rels do you think rayn is scum or not?

He's a townlean right now. That probably won't change for the better until a mission he's part of succeeds.


Why do you think he's a town lean? Do you still want him to not be part of the first team?

Cause he's attacking people over logical things, has hard townreads and is trying to solve the game as a whole. That's his town meta. I'm OK with him being part of the first team.


Wait what?

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 22:36 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2015 22:25 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2015 17:52 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 17:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well thank you captain obvious.
I bet alot of players would not realize that unless you said it.

You're welcome!
I don't understand why you're hard townreading Superbia, who nitpicked something to death and made it the basis for a "mild" scumread.

Is this your way of saying "i agree with the townread on rayn"?

I don't understand. Maybe you quoted the wrong post bro.

Can you point out to a post of yours where you imply you read me as town for my Superbia read?
Because i really feel like your filter says the opposite.

Where do I say I read you as town for your Superbia's read ?


So you're changing your stance on rayn from 3 hours ago? Wtf Rels...

Yes.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 16:49 GMT
#517
On November 03 2015 01:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 01:45 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:43 Xatalos wrote:
Uh.... Rels, I think you could have expressed yourself more clearly there. I guess you stopped considering his questions dumb in that one post... And then started townreading him? It's a bit hard to follow how everything went for you.

Dunno, it's clear in my head. It was actually a few hours ago that I dropped this "dumb question" stuff, since this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497443-resistance-v-section-31?page=13#257



That was six hours ago, let's refer back to my post:

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 01:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:37 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:34 Rels wrote:
On November 03 2015 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Rels do you think rayn is scum or not?

He's a townlean right now. That probably won't change for the better until a mission he's part of succeeds.


Why do you think he's a town lean? Do you still want him to not be part of the first team?

Cause he's attacking people over logical things, has hard townreads and is trying to solve the game as a whole. That's his town meta. I'm OK with him being part of the first team.


Wait what?

On November 02 2015 22:36 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2015 22:25 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2015 17:52 Rels wrote:
On November 02 2015 17:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well thank you captain obvious.
I bet alot of players would not realize that unless you said it.

You're welcome!
I don't understand why you're hard townreading Superbia, who nitpicked something to death and made it the basis for a "mild" scumread.

Is this your way of saying "i agree with the townread on rayn"?

I don't understand. Maybe you quoted the wrong post bro.

Can you point out to a post of yours where you imply you read me as town for my Superbia read?
Because i really feel like your filter says the opposite.

Where do I say I read you as town for your Superbia's read ?


So you're changing your stance on rayn from 3 hours ago? Wtf Rels...


That post was right now.

...
I dropped the dumb question stuff from 6 hours ago.
I was still scumreading rayn 3 hours ago.
I'm townleaning him right now.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 16:50 GMT
#518
On November 03 2015 01:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone talk to me. I'm lonely

I liked kita's posts on Superbia. What do you think of them ?
I mean, if you even read the whole thread.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 16:52 GMT
#523
On November 03 2015 01:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 01:43 Rels wrote:
Alright leaving work.
HTS, I won't vote a team you or Superbia are part of atm. Obviously that could change between now or deadline. I'm OK with Xata / kita / rayn / me.


Going to be blunt, that's not happening, Kita is definitely not happening right now, if I swap Superbia out, it's probably going to be for Xata, and right now I'm not sure of anyone else to swap me out unless I went Superbia/Xata/rayn.

*yawn*

Thankfully this doesn't need to be unanimous.

The low blow )=
Hope you're not getting delayed too much
See you in a few hours folks!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 21:13 GMT
#574
On November 03 2015 02:43 Half the Sky wrote:
Here again.

Read Xata. Could swap Superbia out for him. I'll sit on this.

Current: raynpelikoneet/Superbia/myself

1st alt: Xata/rayn/myself
2nd alt: TBD

Going through Rels again, then Kita/Artanis/Shockey.

On November 03 2015 03:02 Half the Sky wrote:
Read through Kita's filter again. Most of his questions were answered or appeared so. So many questions, so few conclusions. Where do you stand on everyone now?

And my proposed lineups?

So you went though my posts and didn't feel the need to post anything ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 21:15 GMT
#575
On November 03 2015 03:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I'm pretty much going to reject the xata/rayn combo wombo. I'd rather see the first team mentioned - hts,super,xata go through. At least if a sabotage happens, we definitely have a good chance of finding the mafia until the next mission.

That post hits me as super townie.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 21:15 GMT
#576
On November 03 2015 03:18 Half the Sky wrote:
.......annnddddddd that didn't bold for some reason on mobile.

##nominate: Xatalos, raynpelikoneet, Half the Sky

Hoping there'll be more to work with when I'm home. Until later lovelies...

Unless HTS can change my read on her tomorrow, I'll reject this team.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 21:23 GMT
#578
On November 03 2015 04:50 kitaman27 wrote:
I don't think I'm comfortable with Xatalos just yet.

Here is his read list from what I gathered. Basically all town and null reads.

Xatalos - Obviously town reads himself

Half the Sky - Strong town read

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On November 03 2015 01:13 Xatalos wrote:
Well, she's clearly reading the thread and making original findings. Such as the way I inquired Superbia about his townread on me, or how you were making filler posts here and there.... She's also coming to pretty good conclusions from those findings. Hard to ask for more at this point.


raynpelikoneet - Strong town read

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On November 03 2015 01:01 Xatalos wrote:
rayn has been very focused on finding townreads, something I think fits better with his town meta and is perhaps more useful in this game than finding a scum.


Superbia - Town read, though a tier below the previous ones. Questions the initial push, but seems content with him for the most part.

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On November 03 2015 00:54 Xatalos wrote:
Hm..... I think HtS/rayn/Superbia has a decent chance of being Spy-free. It would be worth considering at least.


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On November 03 2015 01:31 Xatalos wrote:
Well, I don't think Superbia's later posts were bad either. He somewhat decently explained his reason for the initial scumread on me and then townread me for a good reason too


Rels - Null, though this sounds more like townie null

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On November 03 2015 00:05 Xatalos wrote:
Hm.. I'd maybe put Rels into the null pile. I think his explanations somewhat made sense, and he's actively doing stuff (even if he can be active as scum, it's still easier to be a little less active than that as scum). Otherwise it seemed generally okay.


Artanis[Xp] - Null/No shared opinion?
ShoCkeyy - Null/No shared opinion?

sicklucker - Null

kitaman27 - Scum read for lack of interaction at start of the game. Hasn't elaborated much about me since then.

From his position knowing that there are three anti-town players, it seems like he isn't really suspicious of anyone aside from me, especially considering that he has so many posts already. I know that I'm probably biased considering that I'm the only one he seems to think is a spy, but that doesn't seem very satisfactory to me. He seems quite content with the status quo.

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On November 02 2015 23:52 Xatalos wrote:
Well, tbh I might take rayn and Superbia with me as well right now. Not because they're super town, but because there aren't that many good options. I hope that situation fixes itself.


I know from my perspective, I wouldn't be so willing to pass along the nominations if I don't have a great idea of where the bad guys might be. Right now it seems more like a process of elimination based on the lack of posts from the null players. Considering we can have several more cycles to get that part sorted out, I'm concerned about his willingness to rush things along so long as he is included in the nomination.

I still don't think I've spotted an alternative to super/xat that I'd be satisfied with yet though. It seems that I have the opposite problem than xat. Most people are coming off as untrustworthy/null, rather than the other way around

Pretty cool find! Xatalos definitely looked for scumreads in the vanilla game.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 21:24 GMT
#579
On November 03 2015 05:31 JudgeJudy wrote:
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On November 03 2015 05:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Kita what are your thoughts on me so far?


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On November 02 2015 23:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 02 2015 23:18 Xatalos wrote:
On November 02 2015 23:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I haven't finished reading the thread, but since I did play with rayn last game where he was mafia and this really brings up his current meta:

On November 02 2015 19:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i gotta get off for some time. I am starting to get angry at this.


He seriously starts to get "angry" when things do not go his way.

On November 02 2015 19:15 Rels wrote:
rayn leaving the thread as soon as he's being pushed is scum indicative. Please don't include him in a team.


This is also my best suggestion as well.


Which game are you referring to?

I think he can get plenty angry as town too lol


He can get angry as town too, haven't never seen him play as town. I'm just basing it off my previous game with him, which is why I rather not have him on the first mission.


Initially I found this post a bit scummy. You acknowledge Xata's point that rayn can display similar behavior as both mafia and town, yet you still choose to conclude mafia while stating that you haven't played with him as town. If you are making a meta read, yet don't put in effort to understand the town meta, then you're relying on a single data point, rather than a trend.

Otherwise, I don't see a ton that stands out one way or the other. I can sympathize with not having a ton of strong town reads and not wanting to come to conclusions about posts that really don't seem to matter, though it's difficult to come to an opinion on you with only two main talking points so far. Rels stuff seems reasonable, but it would be nice to see you jump in on more topics as time goes on. I'd expect to hopefully see a few more confident reads in the next day or two.

Just seeing that name is making me mad again. =X
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 21:31 GMT
#581
On November 03 2015 05:15 Xatalos wrote:
Well kita, you even quoted the reason for my focus... That finding town in this game might be more useful than finding scum. Of course figuring out the Spies is always useful, but it'll get easier with vote analysis and mission results, whereas here the main goal is to figure out who to send on a mission. At least in IRL Resistance we mostly focused on establishing "clear" or at least semi-clear town.

I read this post maybe 10 times and I have no idea if it makes sense from a town perspective. It kinda does, but finding town goes in hand with finding scums. Don't know why someone would do almost exclusively one and not the other before the first mission.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 02 2015 21:31 GMT
#582
On the other hand he's super active and he's talking about every subject, which is exactly what he did in the vanilla game.
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