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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 07 2015 20:31 GMT
#1856
okay one more thing.

Rels.... stop being a dumbass if you are town. Yo uas scumreading me for reasons like "you are trying to lead the thread" and "you were on the mission that failed".

Again. Stop being retarded if you are town, because my patience is soon wearing out...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 07 2015 20:33 GMT
#1857
last game you literally scumread a top townie because they made a really fucking good case on scum. you managed to ignore that case and instead thought the person who made the case is mafia. think for a while.

please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 07 2015 20:34 GMT
#1858
i am not giving you options.
shape up or get scumread.

you'll hear about this post-game if you are town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 07 2015 21:11 GMT
#1863
So wait you think... sl/artanis/me/hts is scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2015 01:31 GMT
#1879
i am voting yes and rels should have no objection. :p
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2015 01:34 GMT
#1880
I am voting yes so the ppl who think i am mafia should vote no.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2015 09:14 GMT
#1909
On November 08 2015 12:35 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2015 23:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 07 2015 23:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You guys need to see how hard rayn is pushing for me to be scum... Like he's desperately trying to sound town and him and data defending each other gives it away even more. He was just on the first mission that got sabotaged and is still trying to target me even though I've already said I don't want to be on a mission. Stfu already rayn, you're mafia and I caught you early on.



Now. This is the one.

Now before I begin, a few things, just hear me out, I realise the entire game is scumreading me but I am going to explain point by point why most of what you are saying here is actually NAI on rayn.

1 rayn pushing for you hard to be scum is NAI. Here's why. As town, his tunnels are beyond brutal and sometimes beyond ridiculous, you ask any player (particularly the suboptimal towns or commonly scumread towns) he just assumes that logical = town, illogical = mafia. It has gotten townies mislynched and in Drams mafia left him alive (reference the mafia qt for that game) because he was massively wrong, and his attitude was destructive and created chaos for town. Other games where his tunnels have been criticised include Tropical Storm (GlowingBear? Damdred? I forget who), Drams (with rsoultin), Titanic 7 (myself), SOTW (with LightningStrike, etc), the list goes on.

Now as mafia, the agenda is pretty obvious. If you're town, you are an easy player to push. But the point here was to discuss how his pushing you can be his town mentality. You may not trust my meta read, but at least two others have mentioned the "logical = town, illogical = mafia" and reading his comments on the game in Drams should shed some light on how he operates. (posts 1565 and 66)

2 That said. #1 lends him to talking to absolutes. Kita and myself have both mentioned this, which stems from the whole "logical = town, illogical = mafia" thing.

From a mafia perspective you can argue if you want that they are buddying each other. Highlighting the quotes that show appeasement or TMI (usually after a prior scumread or as sicklucker said, Xatalos townread rayn almost immediately) would better help the rest of town see this if you are town.

From a town mentality - again, this is meta, he always thinks he's right and he spent multiple points meta-reading and going into detail why Xatalos was town. See posts 222 (first read), 685, 760/761 (first explanation), 850 (shocking absolute statement - Xatalos is confirmed town), 1018 (this is partial meta, admittedly I couldn't trust it because I have yet to play a game with Xatalos is town). In all fairness, sicklucker who has a more erratic game, and is more difficult to read as either alignment is obvously never going to be townread as town, or at least not as easily. But based on all these posts he's made on Xata, he's not going to believe he's wrong or think he's wrong given the comp. The support WAS there. He won't consider for a second that Xatalos is (1) breaking meta (2) or taking advantage of suboptimal townies. TLDR - he just could be dead wrong and is too damned stubborn to admit it

TLDR - possible town mentality is based in his stubbornness and his town tunnels are well known to be brutal, so what you are saying - yes again, meta, but I've given you multiple reference points - doesn't necessarily make him mafia. It just makes him ridiculously wrong. You haven't played enough games with him (and maybe that's a good thing? I digress) but this is what other players have cited.

Right. And when i remove stupidity i will solve any game if scum is too dumb to leave me alive.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2015 09:16 GMT
#1910
My tunnel on you in titanic 7?????
I didnt fucking post after d1 until i came up with all scum + you so fuck you and l2play....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2015 09:18 GMT
#1911
But yeah. You are right. I want to remove stupid. When there is bo stupid i will win.

So stop being stupid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2015 09:30 GMT
#1912
I would say the person who comes back after partying for 24hours and gives you 7 people where 6 of them on D2 are either mafia or SK, and gets lynched for it, is not tunneling but BEING tunneled.

So you fucktards can all l2p and not blame ME for being a "tunneler".

That was the best game i have ever played, you were all terrible. So fuck you. Fuck you so much.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2015 09:32 GMT
#1913
Now for the rest of the game i am going to call HtS bad and make her feel bad.
Hope she is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2015 09:42 GMT
#1914
Like literally. If you reference a game where i made probably the best post TLmafia has ever seen and end up with a conclusion:
doesn't necessarily make him mafia. It just makes him ridiculously wrong.

..you're gonna feel it.

I get when i am called bad when i am actually bad. I get when i am called bad by better / equal players to me.
You don't get to call me bad. You're fucking bad.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2015 09:46 GMT
#1915
For your fucking information in Tropical Storm i "tunneled" three fucking mafia. I would have lynched mafia on every fucking day if the town was not stupid and lynch deconduo on D1.

So fuck you again.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2015 09:47 GMT
#1916
I was even tunneled enough to convince the cop that HIS GREEN CHECK IS MAFIA.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 09 2015 11:20 GMT
#2038
So that was the only team that had a reasonable chance of going onto a mission.

##Nominate: raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Half the sky, Shockeyy
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 09 2015 12:40 GMT
#2043
On November 09 2015 21:31 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 20:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So that was the only team that had a reasonable chance of going onto a mission.

##Nominate: raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Half the sky, Shockeyy


Quite a curious nomination. Another reaction test, or you don't think any other team can pass at this point......?

I don't think any team would pass anything at this point so i am just gonna wait for sicklucker to post his team and when it fails i am gonna blame him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 09 2015 12:41 GMT
#2044
I literally nominated everyone i think i scum . myself in case you missed...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 09 2015 12:52 GMT
#2049
So like, Xatalos is stubbornly trying to push a team that has both me and him in it, when at least half of the people in the game think one of us might be scum.

HtS doesn't even read the game (or apparently any game she has ever played) so i don't see any reason i should pay any attention to what she posts.

Shockeyy hasn't made a single logical conslusion in this game, and Artanis now for some reason thinks Xatalos is mafia instead of sicklucker because of what Shockeyy says.

sicklucker doesn't wanna say yes to any team he doesn't pick himself, doesn't scumhunt and just hides behind his heuristic.

Superbia gave up a long time ago on this game.

So yeah, i am just gonna vote yes to any team that gets picked and/or wait for SL to present his team and if the team is all town we win -- or if the team fails i am gonna blame the dude who picked the team. Because that's the correct play, right sicklucker?

Basically this game cannot possibly go anywhere so i don't really see any reason why i should give any fucks rn.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 09 2015 13:02 GMT
#2057
On November 09 2015 22:00 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So like, Xatalos is stubbornly trying to push a team that has both me and him in it, when at least half of the people in the game think one of us might be scum.

HtS doesn't even read the game (or apparently any game she has ever played) so i don't see any reason i should pay any attention to what she posts.

Shockeyy hasn't made a single logical conslusion in this game, and Artanis now for some reason thinks Xatalos is mafia instead of sicklucker because of what Shockeyy says.

sicklucker doesn't wanna say yes to any team he doesn't pick himself, doesn't scumhunt and just hides behind his heuristic.

Superbia gave up a long time ago on this game.

So yeah, i am just gonna vote yes to any team that gets picked and/or wait for SL to present his team and if the team is all town we win -- or if the team fails i am gonna blame the dude who picked the team. Because that's the correct play, right sicklucker?

Basically this game cannot possibly go anywhere so i don't really see any reason why i should give any fucks rn.


Tbh I think this nomination is probably the only one where we have a chance anymore.... But I guess quite a few scumread you now so I can understand why it seems difficult. Then should we just try voting for a team or something?

sure. what team do you want?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 09 2015 13:10 GMT
#2060
Then don't say you want another team if you don't even know what you want.
I can't nominate 6 people.
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