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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
November 17 2015 16:21 GMT
#3281
On November 18 2015 00:44 Xatalos wrote:
I still don't quite see the appeal of a team with HTS in it. She's voted YES to every failure team systematically (even while not being a part of it herself..) and her push on me has been very... Draining. It's just an endless barrage of weak/false arguments.

If you're town, HTS, we really need to talk about your arguments post-game. Maybe it's possible you could just be an extremely tunneled and overly optimistic voter. But I still can't easily accept it.

If this passes (as it seems), I guess it's pretty much game over either way. If it's all town, it shouldn't be hard to find a fifth objectively clear townie afterwards. Or rather, scum should just concede. If there's scum (HTS....) in there, then GG, well played.

I'll probably just vote NO again anyway. Can't bring myself to vote YES for HTS.... But I guess it's not the worst thing even if it passes. Kind of focused on other things at this point.


You too except that you were in team 1.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 17:35 GMT
#3282
I'm not in the team though, and still better than her record :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 17 2015 17:53 GMT
#3283
On November 17 2015 07:54 sicklucker wrote:
#nominate artanis half the sky shockeyy vivax

????
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 17 2015 17:54 GMT
#3284
On November 17 2015 08:00 sicklucker wrote:
I decided to go for the win here because of two factor. I didnt have your garanteed vote and shockey wont be able to play after today. i think I have to end it here to have the best chance for town to win

That's bullshit. From your POV, there is only advantages waiting a few more days to decide who would be the fifth man. I literally cannot see why you are doing that - as either alignement, since you're more townread than Arta in the case you're both scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 17 2015 17:57 GMT
#3285
Oh
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 17 2015 18:24 GMT
#3286
Wait what I think you're thinking still doesn't make sense unless you think HTS / Shockey is scum
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 18:39 GMT
#3287
No idea what you're talking about?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 18:44 GMT
#3288
I'd assume Artanis/HTS/shockeyy YES-vote again, and apparently SL and Vivax lean that way too. Not to mention there could be random other YES-votes too... Again. No idea at all what Coag is doing lol
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 17 2015 18:45 GMT
#3289
Meh. I don't think there's much hope regardless.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 17 2015 18:57 GMT
#3290
On November 17 2015 17:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Actually I wonder if it could possibly be Rayn/Xata/Rels. Kita has been tryharding pretty hard. Not sure it'd make sense for Xata to send a 2-spy team on the first mission, but Rayn was heavily townread by almost everyone so it's possible he felt like he didn't have a choice.


ya its possible I already suggested this breifly
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 17 2015 19:00 GMT
#3291
On November 18 2015 00:44 Xatalos wrote:
I still don't quite see the appeal of a team with HTS in it. She's voted YES to every failure team systematically (even while not being a part of it herself..) and her push on me has been very... Draining. It's just an endless barrage of weak/false arguments.

If you're town, HTS, we really need to talk about your arguments post-game. Maybe it's possible you could just be an extremely tunneled and overly optimistic voter. But I still can't easily accept it.

If this passes (as it seems), I guess it's pretty much game over either way. If it's all town, it shouldn't be hard to find a fifth objectively clear townie afterwards. Or rather, scum should just concede. If there's scum (HTS....) in there, then GG, well played.

I'll probably just vote NO again anyway. Can't bring myself to vote YES for HTS.... But I guess it's not the worst thing even if it passes. Kind of focused on other things at this point.


shes played the game the hardest and only me.art.shockey/hts votes yes for a mission shes on. I know im town and im like 99% sure shockeys town so I dont really see a very likely team. And if she was mafia her team could have just won it there but choose not to fot some reason. Im more worried about artanis because he has no nice vote logic like this to suggest hes town but he gets on because theres so many baddies so w/e
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 17 2015 19:02 GMT
#3292
On November 18 2015 02:54 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 08:00 sicklucker wrote:
I decided to go for the win here because of two factor. I didnt have your garanteed vote and shockey wont be able to play after today. i think I have to end it here to have the best chance for town to win

That's bullshit. From your POV, there is only advantages waiting a few more days to decide who would be the fifth man. I literally cannot see why you are doing that - as either alignement, since you're more townread than Arta in the case you're both scum.


theres certainly no scum reason. My town reason is that my confirmed town shockey cant play anymore so I may as well end the game now rather then risk losing his vote because he has no time
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 17 2015 20:41 GMT
#3293
On November 18 2015 04:00 sicklucker wrote:
Im more worried about artanis because he has no nice vote logic like this to suggest hes town but he gets on because theres so many baddies so w/e


Why am I more likely a "baddie" than artanis?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 17 2015 21:06 GMT
#3294
because you had no reads for 99% of the game
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 17 2015 21:08 GMT
#3295
like kita you just did nothing. I dont think I ever played with you before but if this is your town game why even play. put yourself in my shoes. the only thing you added to the entire game was say im scum
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
November 17 2015 21:12 GMT
#3296
On November 18 2015 04:00 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 00:44 Xatalos wrote:
I still don't quite see the appeal of a team with HTS in it. She's voted YES to every failure team systematically (even while not being a part of it herself..) and her push on me has been very... Draining. It's just an endless barrage of weak/false arguments.

If you're town, HTS, we really need to talk about your arguments post-game. Maybe it's possible you could just be an extremely tunneled and overly optimistic voter. But I still can't easily accept it.

If this passes (as it seems), I guess it's pretty much game over either way. If it's all town, it shouldn't be hard to find a fifth objectively clear townie afterwards. Or rather, scum should just concede. If there's scum (HTS....) in there, then GG, well played.

I'll probably just vote NO again anyway. Can't bring myself to vote YES for HTS.... But I guess it's not the worst thing even if it passes. Kind of focused on other things at this point.


shes played the game the hardest and only me.art.shockey/hts votes yes for a mission shes on. I know im town and im like 99% sure shockeys town so I dont really see a very likely team. And if she was mafia her team could have just won it there but choose not to fot some reason. Im more worried about artanis because he has no nice vote logic like this to suggest hes town but he gets on because theres so many baddies so w/e

Uh why does that work for her but not for me? Everyone on the mission I was on was also on that mission so if there was one scum on there it was already corrupt and if there's no scum there they could've 100% passed the last mission.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
November 17 2015 21:13 GMT
#3297
Also, distractionary tactics from Rels and Kita giving me good feels. Xata doesn't even seem to be trying anymore.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 17 2015 21:52 GMT
#3298
ya also I was wondering why scum didnt concede if its the obvious team but then I remembered there was no qt. but who knows artanis probably swaggin
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 17 2015 21:53 GMT
#3299
is reveal in 7 mins or an hour
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 17 2015 21:58 GMT
#3300
On November 18 2015 06:08 sicklucker wrote:
like kita you just did nothing. I dont think I ever played with you before but if this is your town game why even play. put yourself in my shoes. the only thing you added to the entire game was say im scum


That's simply not true. I've had plenty of reads this game.

On November 03 2015 04:50 kitaman27 wrote:
I don't think I'm comfortable with Xatalos just yet.


On November 04 2015 04:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Half the Sky - Leaning town.

raynpelikoneet - Leaning town.

Xatalos - Leaning mafia

Superbia - Weakly leaning town

sicklucker - Null

Artanis[Xp] - Going to hold off until we see a few more posts from him. I'm not very sure where his head is at. At some point someone mentioned that had a very strong read on him. If you could elaborate, that might be helpful.

ShoCkeyy - I'm struggling between low thread presence mafia and "lynch bait" town.

I'd say Shockeyy would be in my exclude list for the time being.

Rels - Weak town


On November 05 2015 00:09 kitaman27 wrote:
A xat + sup duo seems a bit unlikely


On November 05 2015 01:40 kitaman27 wrote:
I wouldn't feel comfortable passing a team with you still. I think there are better alternatives than sicklucker, though I'm still kinda null on him so he wouldn't totally kill a team. rayn has also owed me a response for a while, so I'm waiting on that.


On November 05 2015 01:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Preferably I'd be looking at something like Kita/artanis/rayn, though I'm obviously aware that you wouldn't do something like that. Maybe one of HTS/Rels in place of myself if need be (?).


On November 05 2015 03:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Artanis I am feeling more comfortable with so I'd put him into leaning town for what it is worth.


On November 05 2015 03:23 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm less confident about the explanation towards SL at this point.


On November 05 2015 03:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Right now I find the things that Xatalos has done to point more likely to spy than not


On November 06 2015 01:49 kitaman27 wrote:
Why isn't this a mafia agenda?


On November 07 2015 08:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Both SL and Xata were in my bottom three, though them both being spies doesn't make a ton of sense.


On November 07 2015 08:23 kitaman27 wrote:
One idea that I'm toying with is a Xata + Artanis team.


On November 08 2015 02:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Yeah, I'm still leaning town on Rels by the way.


On November 08 2015 02:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Right now I'm thinking SL was the spy last mission, though I'm not completely town reading Xat.


On November 09 2015 03:01 kitaman27 wrote:
As for me I'd say that I'm leaning on SL being the scum from mission two, with Xata being the secondary suspect if SL is town. I'm still leaning mafia on Shockyy and the remaining mafia would be in a pool of HTS/super/Artanis.


On November 09 2015 11:16 kitaman27 wrote:
My reads were at the bottom if you missed it.

Right now I'd prefer a team something like kita/rels/rayn + 1 of HTS/super/Artanis. I'm still not sure which of those three I'd bring along.


On November 09 2015 23:35 kitaman27 wrote:
Right now I'm at rayn/kita/rels/super


On November 12 2015 04:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Super voting no on the rayn/xata/SL team suggests they aren't buddies


On November 12 2015 09:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Assumption 4: ShoCkeyy and rayn aren't scum buddies together.


On November 12 2015 10:01 kitaman27 wrote:
Assumption 5: Half the Sky and rayn aren't scum buddies together. See above.


On November 12 2015 10:14 kitaman27 wrote:
Assumption 6: Ehh this is the biggest jump so far, but I'm going to put rayn down as town despite the two failures. If it comes back to bite me, then so be it. At least he won't get credit for the win with the modkill


On November 12 2015 10:21 kitaman27 wrote:
Assumption 7: Xatalos and sicklucker are not both spies.


On November 12 2015 10:32 kitaman27 wrote:
Assumption 8: HTS and Rels are not spies together.


On November 12 2015 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:
Assumption 9: Rels is town.


On November 13 2015 01:03 kitaman27 wrote:
I strongly disagree that Vivax is town.


On November 13 2015 01:06 kitaman27 wrote:
Would you consider Rels or myself to replace Vivax? We have matching voting records so what separates us here in your mind?


On November 13 2015 01:30 kitaman27 wrote:
This has to be the most sketchy thing you've said all game Rels.


On November 13 2015 07:37 kitaman27 wrote:
If Vivax concludes that the mafia team is kita + SL and states that his opinion is unlikely to change, don't you think that a town Vivax would actually read my filter first?


On November 13 2015 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Right now I think he's town.


On November 13 2015 09:17 kitaman27 wrote:
right now I'd say something like

Vivax + Artanis + (SL/Xat)


On November 16 2015 01:45 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm still not convinced that rayn + HTS makes sense.


On November 16 2015 02:04 kitaman27 wrote:
Well at least with rayn/Arta/Xata you have the weird

Xata: Hey it's my time to nominate. You wanna be on the team Arta?
Arta: Naw it's all good bro.

and

Arta: I'm up and you're my strongest town read rayn. Mission time?
rayn: lulz lets nominate Rels instead for "information"
Arta: Sure thing!

and

rayn: My turn! So now I can bring Arta along for realz.
rayn: Actually, I'll just nominate whoever kita says instead


On November 16 2015 02:30 kitaman27 wrote:
No I agree that Vivax looks better after the vote.


On November 16 2015 05:38 kitaman27 wrote:
I definitely wouldn't consider Xata in my "camp", even if he wants to buddy me..


On November 16 2015 05:43 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:38 sicklucker wrote:
kita DO YOU HAVE ANY READS IN THIS GAME?


Yeah?

Town:
Kita
HTS
Rels
Shockeyy (?)
SL (based on Xata being in the below group mostly.)

Mafia:
Artanis
Xatalos

I'm still trying to think through Vivax and rayn more.


On November 16 2015 10:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Definitely not art. I'd say probably no to coag at this point too. Just stick with the team that is more likely to pass.


On November 17 2015 06:39 kitaman27 wrote:
rayn/xata/artanis
rayn/xata/rels
rels/xata/artanis
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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