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On November 09 2015 07:16 Half the Sky wrote:
Yeh, I know deadline is a bit rough wanting to go to bed early. 2215 here. I think I might crash after deadline.
Shockey, what do you think about Superbia/Artanis in general? I know Artanis looked at you (IIRC) saying you "could" be scum for not having much reads and not wanting to give teammates away.
I know you are (were?) scumreading rayn but any developing thoughts on superbia or Artanis?
Do you have an opinion on Superbia yourself?
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Keep on reading.....I see you are saying "there's a definite possibility there was a mafia member on the team".
Oh wait, you wanted to see Artanis try and expose himself? (#1984) But why would you want to lose a second mission for that? Do you think you have the entire scumteam to suggest a perfect one onwards? After Xata/Artanis in your world then whom?
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On November 09 2015 08:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2015 07:16 Half the Sky wrote:
Yeh, I know deadline is a bit rough wanting to go to bed early. 2215 here. I think I might crash after deadline.
Shockey, what do you think about Superbia/Artanis in general? I know Artanis looked at you (IIRC) saying you "could" be scum for not having much reads and not wanting to give teammates away.
I know you are (were?) scumreading rayn but any developing thoughts on superbia or Artanis? Do you have an opinion on Superbia yourself?
I told Kita slight town lean based on posting and the Xatalos disassociation, though conflicted by activity/inactivity upon looking in the last hour. I'd say closer to null. The reasons seem acceptable though but if he's town, I hope he'll give more reasons for us to call him town.
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On November 09 2015 03:01 kitaman27 wrote:
It's getting a bit difficult to parse the thread. Would everyone say this is a reasonable reflection of their current reads? You can respond after the vote if you wish. Clarifications would be helpful on the ones with (???)
ShoCkeyy
rayn/HTS
rels/kita/artanis/super
Xata/SL (???)
Half the Sky
Artanis, kita, rayn, SL
Xatalos/Shockeyy
Super/Rels (???)
Rels
HTS/Arta/SL
kita/shockeyy/super/xata
rayn (???)
Artanis[Xp]
Xatalos
Sicklucker
2 scum out of shockeyy/HTS/Superbia/Rels/kita
Artanis, rayn
Superbia
Xatalos//Kita/Artanis/Rels
One of SL/rayn + Shockeyy
HTS ???
raynpelikoneet
artanis, Xata, super, kita, Rels
Shockeyy, SL, HTS
sicklucker
Shockyy/Xatalos/kita
artanis/rayn/rels/super/hts
As for me I'd say that I'm leaning on SL being the scum from mission two, with Xata being the secondary suspect if SL is town. I'm still leaning mafia on Shockyy and the remaining mafia would be in a pool of HTS/super/Artanis.
Btw why am I missing from this list >.>
Overall, I'd be much more interested to hear your own reads rather than listing others' reads.
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On November 09 2015 07:01 Rels wrote:
No here is why arta is probably scum:
- voting yes to a failure team while not in said failure team
- his read on me is super convenient and is based on nothing strong
- he nominated a team without me; rayn tells him to nominate me; he argues that he thinks I am scum, then he nominates me anyway
-Explained my reasoning already. Doesn't make me scum.
-My reasoning is plain to see and I pushed you on it.
-Explained this just now.
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2330....I need to sleep lovelies. Good night <3
Although you are really up late Lex....this game aside, go to bed! 
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On November 09 2015 08:24 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2015 03:01 kitaman27 wrote:
It's getting a bit difficult to parse the thread. Would everyone say this is a reasonable reflection of their current reads? You can respond after the vote if you wish. Clarifications would be helpful on the ones with (???)
ShoCkeyy
rayn/HTS
rels/kita/artanis/super
Xata/SL (???)
Half the Sky
Artanis, kita, rayn, SL
Xatalos/Shockeyy
Super/Rels (???)
Rels
HTS/Arta/SL
kita/shockeyy/super/xata
rayn (???)
Artanis[Xp]
Xatalos
Sicklucker
2 scum out of shockeyy/HTS/Superbia/Rels/kita
Artanis, rayn
Superbia
Xatalos//Kita/Artanis/Rels
One of SL/rayn + Shockeyy
HTS ???
raynpelikoneet
artanis, Xata, super, kita, Rels
Shockeyy, SL, HTS
sicklucker
Shockyy/Xatalos/kita
artanis/rayn/rels/super/hts
As for me I'd say that I'm leaning on SL being the scum from mission two, with Xata being the secondary suspect if SL is town. I'm still leaning mafia on Shockyy and the remaining mafia would be in a pool of HTS/super/Artanis. Btw why am I missing from this list >.> Overall, I'd be much more interested to hear your own reads rather than listing others' reads.
LOL I missed this first go, read the bottom two lines of his post!
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Kita I hope you read the last 3-5 pages - some of us have changed a few reads.
sicklucker when you return, can you talk about Superbia more? Particularly in relation to campus mafia. Can you do a meta that does NOT touch on activity/inactivity?
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On November 09 2015 08:24 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2015 08:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 09 2015 07:16 Half the Sky wrote:
Yeh, I know deadline is a bit rough wanting to go to bed early. 2215 here. I think I might crash after deadline.
Shockey, what do you think about Superbia/Artanis in general? I know Artanis looked at you (IIRC) saying you "could" be scum for not having much reads and not wanting to give teammates away.
I know you are (were?) scumreading rayn but any developing thoughts on superbia or Artanis? Do you have an opinion on Superbia yourself? I told Kita slight town lean based on posting and the Xatalos disassociation, though conflicted by activity/inactivity upon looking in the last hour. I'd say closer to null. The reasons seem acceptable though but if he's town, I hope he'll give more reasons for us to call him town.
There's not much reason for dissociation to mean that they can't be scum together though. Bussing can be done without any real effect in this game. Do you have anything beyond thinking Xatalos is scum and them being dissociated for you?
On November 09 2015 08:25 Half the Sky wrote:2330....I need to sleep lovelies. Good night <3 Although you are really up late Lex....this game aside, go to bed!
I'm going to bed too >>. Fight you tomorrow!
Maybe.
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Now I need to sleep. Good night again lovelies <3
Ah the wonders of actually having time to play this game xD
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Lex, at the moment for a town read, other than previously commented, nothing new, no.
And fight me? I'm going to capoeira Tuesday but knowing you, you will still come in and dropkick me 
Now let me go to bed <3
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On November 09 2015 08:26 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2015 08:24 Xatalos wrote:On November 09 2015 03:01 kitaman27 wrote:
It's getting a bit difficult to parse the thread. Would everyone say this is a reasonable reflection of their current reads? You can respond after the vote if you wish. Clarifications would be helpful on the ones with (???)
ShoCkeyy
rayn/HTS
rels/kita/artanis/super
Xata/SL (???)
Half the Sky
Artanis, kita, rayn, SL
Xatalos/Shockeyy
Super/Rels (???)
Rels
HTS/Arta/SL
kita/shockeyy/super/xata
rayn (???)
Artanis[Xp]
Xatalos
Sicklucker
2 scum out of shockeyy/HTS/Superbia/Rels/kita
Artanis, rayn
Superbia
Xatalos//Kita/Artanis/Rels
One of SL/rayn + Shockeyy
HTS ???
raynpelikoneet
artanis, Xata, super, kita, Rels
Shockeyy, SL, HTS
sicklucker
Shockyy/Xatalos/kita
artanis/rayn/rels/super/hts
As for me I'd say that I'm leaning on SL being the scum from mission two, with Xata being the secondary suspect if SL is town. I'm still leaning mafia on Shockyy and the remaining mafia would be in a pool of HTS/super/Artanis.Btw why am I missing from this list >.> Overall, I'd be much more interested to hear your own reads rather than listing others' reads. LOL I missed this first go, read the bottom two lines of his post!
?? >.>
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On November 09 2015 07:59 Fidei86 wrote:
Day 2
Artanis[Xp]'s Nomination (Artanis[Xp], Rels, Kitaman27, Superbia)
Vote Result
Half the Sky - NO
Xatalos - NO
Artanis[Xp] - NO
raynpelikoneet - YES
ShoCkeyy - YES
Rels - NO
sicklucker - NO
kitaman27 - NO
Superbia - NO
MISSION IS REJECTED
Day 2
raynpelikoneet's Nomination Phase
Phase will end in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) on 9 November 2015.
Some players just seem to vote NO no matter what (Superbia, kita, Rels) and shockeyy is the ultimate hipster by always voting against the majority >.>
Since the result is so one-sided, I don't think there's too much info to gain...... At least at first glance. I guess it could be useful to demand proper explanations from people like Artanis suggested (who didn't already explain).
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On November 09 2015 08:26 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2015 08:24 Xatalos wrote:On November 09 2015 03:01 kitaman27 wrote:
It's getting a bit difficult to parse the thread. Would everyone say this is a reasonable reflection of their current reads? You can respond after the vote if you wish. Clarifications would be helpful on the ones with (???)
ShoCkeyy
rayn/HTS
rels/kita/artanis/super
Xata/SL (???)
Half the Sky
Artanis, kita, rayn, SL
Xatalos/Shockeyy
Super/Rels (???)
Rels
HTS/Arta/SL
kita/shockeyy/super/xata
rayn (???)
Artanis[Xp]
Xatalos
Sicklucker
2 scum out of shockeyy/HTS/Superbia/Rels/kita
Artanis, rayn
Superbia
Xatalos//Kita/Artanis/Rels
One of SL/rayn + Shockeyy
HTS ???
raynpelikoneet
artanis, Xata, super, kita, Rels
Shockeyy, SL, HTS
sicklucker
Shockyy/Xatalos/kita
artanis/rayn/rels/super/hts
As for me I'd say that I'm leaning on SL being the scum from mission two, with Xata being the secondary suspect if SL is town. I'm still leaning mafia on Shockyy and the remaining mafia would be in a pool of HTS/super/Artanis.Btw why am I missing from this list >.> Overall, I'd be much more interested to hear your own reads rather than listing others' reads. LOL I missed this first go, read the bottom two lines of his post!
Ohhh yeah his own reads are there indeed (although that's a pretty crude summary.....).
I guess I just magically disappeared from the post otherwise
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Well now it's rayn's turn then.
I actually hope it's something good that he proposes. The next leaders are shockeyy, Rels and SL.... Kind of hard to believe an all-town team would come from them considering their reads, even if there might be town among the three.
I still think the team should include myself+rayn.... Maybe, maybe I could accept a team without us if the reasoning is very good. SL should never be on the mission, neither HTS IMO... And shockeyy would be a huge risk as well. Any other combination could theoretically be workable..... I guess we'll have to gamble on the nulls.
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I guess Superbia/Rels/kita look good for the NO votes at least. It's decently likely that the group is "pure" just based on that. Superbia hasn't really looked bad regardless so it's kind of likely he's town. kita and Rels... Are more questionable for me. I think both of them could have well done what they've done here as scum... It's mostly the NO votes that gives them credit IMO
Meanwhile Artanis does indeed suffer from the YES vote, much like HTS, especially because they weren't on the mission team themselves (I think it's more natural to vote YES if you're included on the mission than if not...). Just considering that, it might actually not be the best idea to include either of them on the next mission....
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Well, I'll sleep on this. At least rayn seems to agree on SL so that's some reassurance.
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On November 09 2015 06:43 Half the Sky wrote:
sicklucker are you here?
You said that Superbia lurking was akin to his town meta? Can you name any other games offhand that this would apply? I remember you said sometime in another game (campus mafia) he played a cancerous game but was he inactive in that game or any other you can remember?
His posting as far as I can see - and with Xatalos discouraging his inclusion day 1 - I am pretty sure he's town. Where are you seeing his inactivity as alignment indicative?
i said its his scum meta
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reference any game hes ever been scum
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