EPTOnegu hasnt read anything and wont until tomorrow.
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Because why not it Damdy
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Onegu hasnt read anything and wont until tomorrow. ##Vote Damdred + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On November 21 2015 11:20 Fecalfeast wrote: Gonna ping this out every so often because I'm getting worried. Maybe he's reading the entire game and coming in to blow scum out of the water Nope I was out. | ||
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On November 24 2015 03:40 disformation wrote: Unfortunately I only got one game where he was VT. But if he wants to be hard to read of such a meta, he looks probably pretty similar as scum. Note that this is speculation. My question for now is more like, is he: 1) "Oh crap I replaced into a bad situation and I am not fond of town, so let whatever, can't be arsed to do something." 2) "Oh crap, I replaced into a bad situation and I think not giving town any information is the best play here." Super coin-flippy. Wtb Damdred dropping some logic-bombs. Or 3) Onegu is disabled and hasnt felt well and took to much pain medicine yesterday and slept all day and night. | ||
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On November 24 2015 03:23 NocturneMage wrote: also disformation I would think the moderators made a mistake with Onegu and his vote. he can surely vote if Damdred did last cycle  So five on onegu with 3 not voting yet. Onegu, if you are town, you had better at least provide us some information from your perspective. I have reasons to lynch both ritoky and trfel (trfel having had more time to resolve them) if the concerns go unresolved but from what fecalfeast alluded earlier, you don't post much as town? at least some list post on who you think the scum taking advantage of your absence are.... I will speed read but I dont really have anything other than the person who said it didnt look like I was scum from my entrance looked really weird. I and remember it came from someone I had actually played with multiple times before and that actually mad no sense to me. As to why he would say something like that about me. | ||
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On November 24 2015 03:53 NocturneMage wrote: forget it, there's only an hour left. league can wait until after deadline.... actually no, scratch that. my wife will be home by then. fuck. do you have anything for us onegu? Nope | ||
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Just found it on page 79 it was FF | ||
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On November 24 2015 03:56 disformation wrote: Shit. Sry to hear, man.  Problem is: your slot has only played for like the first 8 hours of Day 1. So we have like zero clue what alignment you and your slot are. There is also this other guy that is super hard to figure out. Trfel. And I absolutely do not want to end up in a situation where we are at lylo/mylo and still have to deal with both of you. This is fine. I also thought I would have like 3 hours to get stuff done, not one... | ||
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Yeah then this is scums preferred lynch. Look for people that were completely null the whole game on me then were like fuck it we just lynch onegu and then peaced out. | ||
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On November 24 2015 03:40 disformation wrote: Unfortunately I only got one game where he was VT. But if he wants to be hard to read of such a meta, he looks probably pretty similar as scum. Note that this is speculation. My question for now is more like, is he: 1) "Oh crap I replaced into a bad situation and I am not fond of town, so let whatever, can't be arsed to do something." 2) "Oh crap, I replaced into a bad situation and I think not giving town any information is the best play here." Super coin-flippy. Wtb Damdred dropping some logic-bombs. Also personally 1 is much more likely that 2. In point 2 I would be much more likely to try and pull something out of my ass. The fact that you guys only got 10 pages of filter today is really shit. | ||
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On November 21 2015 13:50 Fecalfeast wrote: Actually this makes me think he hasn't seen a scum QT. Obviously to be taken tongue in cheek but still. | ||
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On November 24 2015 04:11 NocturneMage wrote: tongue in cheek.....might have been dicking around, but the only thing he's consistently pinged you for is activity. Trfel has a case on him, do you think it's coming from town? and his insistence that fecalfeast is mafia? Link | ||
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On November 20 2015 08:55 Trfel wrote: Fecalfeast Here the posts that Fecalfeast has made this game that show his read progression. + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2015 08:33 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm not really reading too closely. Watching CFL with my dad and bro. Tone/feel reads telling me farah is town, geript is town, disform is mafia ever is towny... Refs in this game are blind On November 16 2015 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote: Oh disforms ninja post is fine for now. On November 17 2015 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote: VE you have me on steam lol my buddy hasn't done any of the online stuff yet I'm mostly skimming here but I side with trfel on VE for sure. town: ritoky trfel nocturne mafia: moose ve that's all I got On November 17 2015 08:04 Fecalfeast wrote: ve seems ok now that i'm interacting with him On November 17 2015 08:21 Fecalfeast wrote: He's explained his reasoning for voting me further and my earlier scumread was entirely sheeped from trfel On November 17 2015 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote: ##unvote I'm going to completely ignore moose for the rest of this game but I believe that he is really being that much of a female dog about rolling town. On November 17 2015 09:47 Fecalfeast wrote: I hosted the game where he bused the dick off his whole team as mafia. He legitimately seems like a player who much prefers scum play over town play. That said, I also agree with the idea that giving him a free pass for throwing a tantrum is lame. Fuck it ##vote mooseydoosey On November 17 2015 09:56 Fecalfeast wrote: scott's filter is unappetizing and stingily portioned. 0 stars out of 5 On November 17 2015 10:12 Fecalfeast wrote: I could kill scott if we're gonna ignore moose again On November 17 2015 11:49 Fecalfeast wrote: If I were scum and moose was town, I'd be laughing it up in scum qt right now about how, unless he gets vigged, we have a guaranteed mislynch in lylo. Which means we should probably get rid of him sooner than later. On November 19 2015 08:39 Fecalfeast wrote: 1. Unless someone claims a vig shot on Geript, he was the only one adamant about trfel being scum and was getting upset that nobody listened to him. 2. His day 1 suspicions from his filter: VE, Moose, Scott, Me. I know 3/4 of those are town 100% while moose is showing some towny play since yesterday. 3. Totally willing to vote an uncc'd blue because she's martyring. On November 19 2015 08:58 Fecalfeast wrote: I can't say I'm tunneled on you trfel but right now that's where my brain is. I've only just been in your filter and i will take a closer look later. I've still got shit to do right now tho On November 20 2015 07:50 Fecalfeast wrote: I will kill bresh or trfel because geript confirmed the mafia kill makes it more likely he was offed for his reads, since mafia knows we have a vet* they wouldn't worry about a medic dodge. *assuming farah's claim was real On November 20 2015 08:03 Fecalfeast wrote: I'd be more comfortable lynching breshke over angry!trfel So, there are a few trends shown by the above posts. 1. Whoever posts is town
The disinformation post that caused Fecalfeast to change his read isn't that great. It's the first actual reads post that disinformation has made all game, and it was only made on request. But this caused a dramatic change in Fecalfeast's read? Enough to make him never seriously discuss disformation again? The way he downplayed his scumread on VisceraEyes is terrible. "I side with trfel on VE for sure", leading to a townread on Trfel and a scumread on VisceraEyes. Then, "ve seems ok now that i'm interacting with him" and "He's explained his reasoning for voting me further and my earlier scumread was entirely sheeped from trfel". First, VisceraEyes' Fecalfeast read wasn't a part of my case on VisceraEyes. The fact that this is what Fecalfeast mentioned, while also saying that his scumread came purely from my case, does not make sense at all. For MoosyDoosy, his reasons are debatable, but the important thing is that he voted for MoosyDoosy again later. More on this later. At the same time as Fecalfeast backed off of me (Trfel), he pushed onto Breshke. And he hadn't mentioned Breshke before. This push came out of nowhere. He said he'd rather lynch Breshke because I was "angry". Every single time, there's a person who makes some posts, and Fecalfeast removes his scumread on that person. This is every single time that Fecalfeast has removed a scumread on someone. This reeks of "don't hurt me, I'm not scumreading you!" 2. "Decision" about Day 1 lynch target Fecalfeast first includes MoosyDoosy as mafia in his list (no reason given), then votes MoosyDoosy for martyring. Then he unvotes MoosyDoosy because he thinks MoosyDoosy is just that obnoxious when he rolls town. At this point, Fecalfeast had zero scum reads. So, he went back and voted for MoosyDoosy again, reasoning being that "giving him a free pass for throwing a tantrum is lame". It's noteworthy that at this time, there was a lot of push for lynching MoosyDoosy. This vote on MoosyDoosy is extremely opportunistic and seems to be a patch for Fecalfeast having zero reads. Ritoky, one of the game's highest-influence players, then says that MoosyDoosy is exempt from being lynched. Fecalfeast immediately says he will look into scott31337. And then says he could kill scott31337. He doesn't care one bit about who is lynched, which is shown by his post saying that town ignoring MoosyDoosy causes them to automatically lose LYLO if MoosyDoosy is town, but ultimately vote for scott31337 instead of MoosyDoosy with no new reasons presented. The progression is basically:
3. Other factors I don't really have time to explain this as in detail, but namely his play on Day 3. He said that he didn't like disformation, but he never followed up on this or explained this at all. He said that I (Trfel) was suspicious primarily because of night kill analysis, but never actually addressed any of my posts or arguments like I asked him to, and like he said he would. Then he moved to Breshke, who he only mentioned once before in his filter, with a TOWN LEAN. Okay. Conclusion Fecalfeast is always taking the easy route, always making the easy reads. He's always keeping one scum read and when that stops being easy, he's just moving to the new easy scum read. His apathy towards the Day 1 lynch between two townies and forced read switches are extremely suspicious. Meh, waffling on the day one lynch when 2 town and he is scum, what motivation does he have to do that. I would actually give him town points on that. But the only taking easy reads point does have merit, I caught koshi before as scum because he was doing that. Dont really get the other factor thing. | ||
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On November 24 2015 04:28 disformation wrote: I am F5ing this shit like and mad, trying to think of a solution I am comfortable with and you, on the verge of being lynched, are like "whatever, lets grab some epic food, cya losers." -.- Tell me you wouldnt grab some either? I still havent read the thread and I am not going to get it done in 30 min. If you want me to look at something link it and let me know. I still have tons of votes on me and most people arent here. But I will BRB doesnt take long to take some shredded meat and put it on a tortilla with some rice and cheese.... | ||
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On November 24 2015 04:37 disformation wrote: Onegu: can you at least skim trhougb my post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=89#1766 And tell me what you think of Trfel based on that. Alot more green then red and yellow. Not really following what that post is trying to accomplish... I am out of tortilla shells. Fuck pain medicine making me forgetful... | ||
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On November 24 2015 04:39 NocturneMage wrote: Shining vs ritoky - try and weigh in on this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=73#1460 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=74#1464 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=74#1469 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=74#1472 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=74#1479 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=75#1496 Ritoky looks much worse from this exchange. Like shining brings points up and ritoky doesnt answer he just goes with this is why you are scum shining. | ||
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On November 24 2015 04:53 disformation wrote: Yeah, at this point I would kinda prefer Trefel or maybe ritoky, since Onegu is right, if he flips town we get 0 additional info. I really hope The Shining doesn't get modkilled... Doubt trfel is scum here for trying to move votes off of me. He was the first to unvote remember. And he did so early enough that there could be a vote switch. | ||
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