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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 17 2015 11:27 GMT
#701
##vote: the shining

i gotta go to sleep now, thought about this a bit and something in my gut is just telling me not to vote for disform. so pretty much between scott and shining. shining has done more actively scummy things in my opinion, plus excuses....fuck excuses. i think this is the best place to start.

g'night. and fuck you if someone comes on 10 minutes after this.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 17 2015 11:28 GMT
#702
On November 17 2015 20:24 disformation wrote:
phone post.
profound sadness.

@geript
you have 7 ppl in your not town list, isnt that a bit much? keeping your options open?
should i keep my post you would have advised me to post as mafia around for when i roll mafia? I mean you and ritoky called me out for it afteur all.


[image loading]
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 17 2015 11:29 GMT
#703
The lack ofproper trains like 8 hours b4 deadline also worries me.

shining wasnt here in ages... maybe setting him on blast will change this...

##unvote
##vote The Shining


voting on phone sucks
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 17 2015 11:34 GMT
#704
On November 17 2015 20:28 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 20:24 disformation wrote:
phone post.
profound sadness.

@geript
you have 7 ppl in your not town list, isnt that a bit much? keeping your options open?
should i keep my post you would have advised me to post as mafia around for when i roll mafia? I mean you and ritoky called me out for it afteur all.


[image loading]


not sure what you are trxing to say, but this pictute made me laugh.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
November 17 2015 12:35 GMT
#705
I still feel weird about lynching one of the most aggressively outspoken players in the early game on D1. Like...don't get me wrong - I always love lynching people who want to lynch me. It's one of my favoritest things. Maybe I'll go look at the points against him again.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 17 2015 12:41 GMT
#706
Afternoon everyone. Catching up and reviewing Shining. I'm on board with a Moosy lynch and could discuss Farah/Scott a bit further per list post.

Also heads up, I'm going out to dinner/drinks with a few friends around 6pm so will be on mobile at best with an 8pm deadline. So I'll do my best to get everything out there before that.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
November 17 2015 12:41 GMT
#707
Yeah I'm not really into lynching Shining. Like what scummy things has Shining done besides being a little antsy about my early gutreads?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 17 2015 12:44 GMT
#708
On November 17 2015 21:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah I'm not really into lynching Shining. Like what scummy things has Shining done besides being a little antsy about my early gutreads?


mah main beef is that he hasnt been here for ages and thus I have zero idea about his current thoughts. he could jump on any train for any reason and probably get sway with it so I would like him to dhow up and kick some ass.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 17 2015 12:46 GMT
#709
On Shining's absence, I know from obsing previous games he doesn't play on off days and if I read somewhere in thread right it was Monday/Tuesday. To me that's NAI but will review the interactions which apparently ritoky has found suspicious.

Tone reads I had the opposite conclusion, but I've been advised in the past they are weak and subjective so...

So disformation, hate to break it to you, your vote will not achieve its intended purpose.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 17 2015 12:47 GMT
#710
also for the record: i am on phone and hadnt seen ritoky's vote before starting to type my vote post.

still up for voting moosy since i much dislike his antics.

farah showing up would be nice too since i am quite null about her...
does anyone hsve a solid read on her?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 17 2015 12:50 GMT
#711
On November 17 2015 21:46 NocturneMage wrote:
On Shining's absence, I know from obsing previous games he doesn't play on off days and if I read somewhere in thread right it was Monday/Tuesday. To me that's NAI but will review the interactions which apparently ritoky has found suspicious.

Tone reads I had the opposite conclusion, but I've been advised in the past they are weak and subjective so...

So disformation, hate to break it to you, your vote will not achieve its intended purpose.


the shining doesnt play on Mon/Tue?
Shit. That leaves me somewhat stumped...

Thinking on that for a moment...
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 17 2015 12:55 GMT
#712
On November 17 2015 14:42 scott31337 wrote:
I apologize for my last post - I got enough energy to notepad. I'm town.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 09:19 Trfel wrote:
On November 17 2015 09:17 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Because he did something similar to this last game we played as town, and from what I understand have been informed on he tries a bit harder as scum doesn't roll over.
The problem is that he knows this, and he knows that people will say this......

Ugh, this is so frustrating.


Weak.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 09:25 Breshke wrote:
On November 17 2015 09:16 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, who are your scumreads right now?

If you'd like to wait for FarahBlackwing to answer first, that's fine.


It's mostly less active people.

Something is wrong about mooseys outburst like he HAS rolled scum here before he makes it sound like he never has. He also entered a game where its more likely to roll town than mafia and is having a tantrum that he got the more likely option. Also in the game he was mafia he overreacted to rayn dying (not being saved by the doctor) which was obviously fake and this feels a lot like that. So i don't think anyone should be giving him a pass for having a cry.

FF still being lazy so would lynch.

Scott aswell. I don't think it is out of the ordinary for scott to not be around for large portions of some phases but when he is around he usually has a big thought dump. He didn't attempt anything like that this game which feels scummy from him. He is lean scum but I wouldn't lynch him over moosey or fecal at this stage.

I also am waiting for VE to be around again.



This is the Breshke I know I thought from his first post - He's thinking about the game and townie thoughts.

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On November 17 2015 09:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Honestly Farah's filter is pretty nice to look at. I mean, the lynch list is kinda butt because I am leaning town on bresh and am fairly certain that I'm town but being wrong is allowed.

Is there a case on farah or anything that I'm blatantly missing?


arr..

And my virtual townleans have not said anything (Geript, etc.) So I think I'm fooled at least by one.

I'm going to sleep - at Page 30 of Ritoky's wall of text. I've had a lot to drink and calling it a night. I'll continue from there.

Trfel's been trying but like I said - could be his scummy cases he's done it before

Fuck Moosy and his lazy ass town game We will not have it.

Geript fell the fuck off once he got townleaned

NM has been playing his towngame

I'll be up in about 12 hours and bitch that I'm not online and posting. Well suck it I was busy helping out my cousin that I just found out had MS.


I'm sorry to hear about your cousin.

When you are able, can you draw a few similarities between Trfel case on VE and his scum cases in Newbie 11? From what I read when I first questioned geript, he is obviously capable as town.

When I read the case here he presented two alternatives.

My only issue was him dropping or stating he was probably not reading properly and then a bit later looking at him to lynch him which I mentioned the posts in my list post. What do make of that? Probably easiest to see in his filter.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 17 2015 12:56 GMT
#713
So it is either Scott or moosydoosy...
*sigh* lemme look at the current vc
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 17 2015 13:03 GMT
#714
wow. dealine in 7hours and town has no clue to lynch. i wish i was good at this game and had a solid scum read...

defaulting to moosy for now. will try to figure out something when i am back on a pc.

##unvote
##vote MoosyDoosy
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 17 2015 13:04 GMT
#715
Disformation, read my list post. There were a few things that seemed off. The opening salve stuck out and I don't remember that being resolved for one thing and her read on Shining improper use of meta aside, also I want to hear ritokys opinion on her reservation on him.

At first her explanation made sense but my issue with her reservation on ritoky is that she said it was Mafia because other people who make town cases tended to be Mafia.

Now here's my only thing. Did she really look at ritokys intention with his case on VE? To me it seemed weird but I have beaten a dead horse with VE. But when reading for context I knew what he was trying to do with the information he had on VE. Would he do something like that as Mafia? Especially with other experienced players seeming having the ability to check on that? I highly doubt it. So one could argue that read is contrived assuming she is reading the thread properly.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 17 2015 13:06 GMT
#716
Will vote Moosy for now. Re-reading Shining.

##vote MoosyDoosy
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
November 17 2015 13:13 GMT
#717
Day 1 Votecount

MoosyDoosy (3): NocturneMage, disformation, MoosyDoosy, Trfel, disformation, NocturneMage
The Shining (1): FarahBlackwing, ritoky, disformation
FarahBlackwing (1): Eversince, VisceraEyes, MoosyDoosy
Fecalfeast (1): VisceraEyes
mooseydoosey (1): Fecalfeast, Fecalfeast
scott31337 (0): disformation
Trfel (0): scott31337
VisceraEyes (0): NocturneMage, NocturneMage

Not Voting (6): geript, scott31337, Breshke, The Shining, Trfel, FarahBlackwing

It looks like MoosyDoosy will be facing the court-martial for treason in leading the vote with 3 votes!

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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 17 2015 13:13 GMT
#718
On November 17 2015 19:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Did Moosy ever come in here and explain what got his panties in a twist earlier? Like, I know a couple people mentioned wanting to lynch him, but full martyr mode barely a day into D1? What was that about?

Those who have played with him seem to think it's either town indicative or NAA, but I think maybe getting to the core of his issue might help some to determine his alignment for their own benefit, myself included.


People who came in here from newbie 14 (at least 4 of us) know that he faked anger on Rayn not getting saved by the doctor. He was mafia that game and bussed his entire team and fought with them in the mafia qt. I think geript was Mafia coach that game so I believe he can elaborate if he wishes.

Breshke drew comparisons between that and this game. From newbie 12-14, Moosy always seems to have a thing for changing or breaking his meta so we can never really trust his emotions or what he's trying to do with them. And in general he's a player who will pull really stupid shit as either alignment if it makes him unreadable.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 17 2015 13:21 GMT
#719
Reading Shining now: first post, the only thing he could be guilty of is taking Farah too seriously. The only thing - and I might be stretching this - is it could be reaching for a scumread. But I think I might be stretching it.

264-275 are posts that line up with expectations, saying that bad meta on one game is bad meta.

Seeing nothing scummy up to post 297. He had reasoning for questioning Eversince's intentions initially, nothing wrong there. Page 2...
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 17 2015 13:44 GMT
#720
Page 2 on Shining is quite difficult to read. Having read a couple of Trfel games those long joke posts are NAI. So he's scumreading Trfel for not making jokes? What if he wasn't around?

314 and 325 are the two posts I'm struggling to figure out. It sounds like he's trying to figure it out but he's getting hung up on the word metaread and I honestly can't tell if it's bad or Mafia play.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
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