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Oh, wow... Eversince, that sounds pretty ugly. Hope you are as well as you appear to be and may modern medicine help you overcome this accident. Also hope that you will recover soon.
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disformation present and accounted for. 
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Fecalfeat you just got out of bed?
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On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote: Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time
Can you throw me the statistics you are refering to?
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On November 16 2015 05:05 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote: Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time Can you throw me the statistics you are refering to? 
Actually: counterproposal: In both games I played with scott, he was lynched D1 and town won. That is like a 100% to win if we lynch scott today! ##vote scott31337
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On November 16 2015 05:07 FarahBlackwing wrote: Shining has rolled town 85% of the time maybe 90%. His streak must be over at some point
I have rolled town 100% of the time. Maybe you should lynch me. :D
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On November 16 2015 05:22 FarahBlackwing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:09 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 05:07 FarahBlackwing wrote: Shining has rolled town 85% of the time maybe 90%. His streak must be over at some point I have rolled town 100% of the time. Maybe you should lynch me. :D But what is the sample size compared to his?
Much much smaller than his. I am at 4/4 town now.
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On November 16 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote: Farrah your logic is flawed. I rolled scum a few games ago which means I'm due for another 10 town games, which this is. Your instant vote is pretty uncalled for so early, with so many people missing but I'll chalk it up to interesting entrance. How far you plan on pushing this obvious policy lynch?
Actually all the entrances so far suck. No TRs, town Y u make this so hard?
Meh. TBH I didn't read any of the stuff happening so far as serious. It is the start of day one after all. *shrugs* + Show Spoiler +No my scott vote is not in the least bit serious.
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On November 16 2015 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:04 disformation wrote: Fecalfeat you just got out of bed? sorta, was up about 10 mins before day post, why?
Ah, no real reason. Remembered that you mentioned getting up for EoD time pre-game and was looking for something to say since we were the first two in thread. Didn't expect the thread to fill up this fast. ... I suck at small talk xD
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On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote: ##unvote
Ok I have my read now.
Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi. So what's your read and how did you reach it? Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in. Pretty sure he's town at least for now.
Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining.
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On November 16 2015 06:11 FarahBlackwing wrote: That's what your going to get geript that's my read and idc if it is not adequate for you.
Could you at least explain the "Shining is town based on general activity" part for me? Like is that a meta read as in "his activity as mafia is much lower" or do you just like that he is this active early on? Or maybe something else I don't see?
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On November 16 2015 06:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:08 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote: ##unvote
Ok I have my read now.
Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi. So what's your read and how did you reach it? Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in. Pretty sure he's town at least for now. Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining. From reading his past games he is slightly more posty but he's more mechanical as scum and lacks emotional responses about in game situations and it generally comes later after post a than in sync with the thread. This view comes from research and talking with people who know how to read him
Alright, thanks.  Will probably have to look at a few Shining maffay games myself.
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On November 16 2015 06:25 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:21 FarahBlackwing wrote:On November 16 2015 06:17 Trfel wrote:On November 16 2015 06:16 FarahBlackwing wrote:On November 16 2015 06:12 Trfel wrote: Best of luck with your surgery, Eversince.
FarahBlackwing, do you have a read on geript? Should i? I asked you first  No I don't currently have a read concerning him. Fair enough. I don't have a read on geript either XD
Hm. I would think geript is town? He constantly bothers ppl into explaining/doing stuff... people explaining/doing stuff helps you get a read on them.
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On November 16 2015 07:51 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:17 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 06:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:On November 16 2015 06:08 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote: ##unvote
Ok I have my read now.
Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi. So what's your read and how did you reach it? Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in. Pretty sure he's town at least for now. Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining. From reading his past games he is slightly more posty but he's more mechanical as scum and lacks emotional responses about in game situations and it generally comes later after post a than in sync with the thread. This view comes from research and talking with people who know how to read him Alright, thanks.  Will probably have to look at a few Shining maffay games myself. quoting for empty promise potential.
Should have said "maybe, if two suns rise tomorrow morning will I look at some past games." Nah, for realz, he only has two maffay games in the database, so I will be looking at those next.
Despite me saying that I don't recall playing with The Shining we were both town in NSM IX. So I am currently reading both our filters from that game trying to recall stuff.
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On November 16 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 08:04 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 07:51 ritoky wrote:On November 16 2015 06:17 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 06:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:On November 16 2015 06:08 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote: ##unvote
Ok I have my read now.
Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi. So what's your read and how did you reach it? Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in. Pretty sure he's town at least for now. Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining. From reading his past games he is slightly more posty but he's more mechanical as scum and lacks emotional responses about in game situations and it generally comes later after post a than in sync with the thread. This view comes from research and talking with people who know how to read him Alright, thanks.  Will probably have to look at a few Shining maffay games myself. quoting for empty promise potential. Should have said "maybe, if two suns rise tomorrow morning will I look at some past games." Nah, for realz, he only has two maffay games in the database, so I will be looking at those next. Despite me saying that I don't recall playing with The Shining we were both town in NSM IX. So I am currently reading both our filters from that game trying to recall stuff.  that's cool, i expect content later though. however before you finish that i am more interested on your thoughts on the actual game, not how it relates to previous games. who do you think is town? who is mafia? who is bad? who's ego is too big? y'kno....the usual
Fair enough. Since I haven't played with the shining much, I am not that confident I will find amazing things in those old games. But I did try and pressure him in NSM9 a few times because I felt like he wasn't doing much. He was town in this game. So I am already not too sure about the meta read. His filter length in "Battle of the Drams", where he was mafia, is pretty similar to the one in NSM9, too...
Well, back to this game: As stated before I have a town lean on geript for driving the game and prodding ppl into explaining stuff. Trfel.. kinda strange reaction to VE's uh... lets call it a poke. Not sure if his knee jerk reaction is maffay or town motivated. FF: null. Only reaction so far is to me having his name in a post. Lurking? ritoky: Getting an investigating/engaging/driving the thread feel, so town lean.
The early discussion stuff with Eversince, Farah, The Shining and VE was a bit strange to me, since I read the early posts by Eversince and Farah as jokes to get stuff going (well: mission accomplished). Not sure about VE, but both ppl I have as a town lean, say he is town based on meta, so I'll probably be a lazy cunt and sheep them (for now).
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On November 16 2015 09:40 MoosyDoosy wrote: @disformation, you say you townread geript for "moving the game forwards". In that case, what do you think about Shining right now?
Hmm. Not sure what to make of The Shining. Could maybe be seen as wanting to drive the thread a bit, since "all the entries were lame", but too much focus on the early VE/TS/Farah/Ever stuff, which as mentioned before I didn't quite get. So I'd like him to do some more stuff so I can think about it a bit more.
Also would like you to answer the questions by FF and ritoky: + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2015 09:18 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 09:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:On November 16 2015 06:24 Eversince wrote: Also, how was my second paragraph irrelevant. Just be realistic, assume I wasn't entirely feeding the pigeons corn, and understand I was tryin' to appear townish that game. So I was picking at things that I would find questionable as town. You didn't have much of anything until D3? to justify her read on you. Why the 180 now?
lmao best quote the whole game. "assume I wasn't entirely feeding the pigeons corn" You got any early reads? On November 16 2015 09:53 ritoky wrote:cuz?
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Breshke you still around? What do you think of Eversince's answers to your questions? questions be here:+ Show Spoiler +On November 16 2015 07:12 Breshke wrote:Eversince can you explain this a little for me I am having trouble understanding. 1. You make this post Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote: Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! 2. Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote: Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! I actually like this a lot. ##Vote: Farahblackwing What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here? I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit. So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post. So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it. Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town. I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after. I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him. Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game. The bolded I assume refers to the initial post and makes sense to me like it was clear to me you werent being serious (apparently not to geiprt?) 3. Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:30 Eversince wrote: To clarify, The Shining lurked bad last game I played with. Farah town reads him regardless.
This game, Farah mafia reads The Shining. He had not even posted yet.
Yeh! It's completely different play! Buggers! Sorry for pointin' it out! Then this is where you lose me. I don't really get why you explained a read that you just called sarcastic. Do you think the difference in play means anything for farahs alignment? answers be here:+ Show Spoiler +On November 16 2015 07:15 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 07:12 Breshke wrote:Eversince can you explain this a little for me I am having trouble understanding. 1. You make this post On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote: Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! 2. On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote: Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! I actually like this a lot. ##Vote: Farahblackwing What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here? I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit. So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post. So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it. Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town. I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after. I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him. Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game. The bolded I assume refers to the initial post and makes sense to me like it was clear to me you werent being serious (apparently not to geiprt?) 3. On November 16 2015 06:30 Eversince wrote: To clarify, The Shining lurked bad last game I played with. Farah town reads him regardless.
This game, Farah mafia reads The Shining. He had not even posted yet.
Yeh! It's completely different play! Buggers! Sorry for pointin' it out! Then this is where you lose me. I don't really get why you explained a read that you just called sarcastic. Do you think the difference in play means anything for farahs alignment? 1. Yeh, 2. It was in reference to my first post. 3. No I don't think Farah is mafia at this point. Her early play I took as play, and she's done nothin' else to make me consider her as mafia. The only thing she's done is question me on something I did. I answered her. And she responded to me. I liked it. On November 16 2015 07:20 Eversince wrote: Ohhh I think I mis-understood point 3. I had to explain it because The Shining is poking at me for poking at Farah. I was only tryin' for cheap laughs, said as much, and still am being painted black because I said it. So I spelled it out as simply as I could understand how to. Showing my thoughts and reasoning for why I did what I did...
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I am here... kinda. Huge headache...  Still caught up to stuff an will start answering a few things.
But before that: townread for NocturneMage. I like his posts so far and he looks really different from NSM13 (where he was maffay).
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On November 16 2015 14:37 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 08:30 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:On November 16 2015 08:04 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 07:51 ritoky wrote:On November 16 2015 06:17 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 06:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:On November 16 2015 06:08 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote: [quote] So what's your read and how did you reach it? Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in. Pretty sure he's town at least for now. Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining. From reading his past games he is slightly more posty but he's more mechanical as scum and lacks emotional responses about in game situations and it generally comes later after post a than in sync with the thread. This view comes from research and talking with people who know how to read him Alright, thanks.  Will probably have to look at a few Shining maffay games myself. quoting for empty promise potential. Should have said "maybe, if two suns rise tomorrow morning will I look at some past games." Nah, for realz, he only has two maffay games in the database, so I will be looking at those next. Despite me saying that I don't recall playing with The Shining we were both town in NSM IX. So I am currently reading both our filters from that game trying to recall stuff.  that's cool, i expect content later though. however before you finish that i am more interested on your thoughts on the actual game, not how it relates to previous games. who do you think is town? who is mafia? who is bad? who's ego is too big? y'kno....the usual Fair enough. Since I haven't played with the shining much, I am not that confident I will find amazing things in those old games. But I did try and pressure him in NSM9 a few times because I felt like he wasn't doing much. He was town in this game. So I am already not too sure about the meta read. His filter length in "Battle of the Drams", where he was mafia, is pretty similar to the one in NSM9, too... Well, back to this game: As stated before I have a town lean on geript for driving the game and prodding ppl into explaining stuff. Trfel.. kinda strange reaction to VE's uh... lets call it a poke. Not sure if his knee jerk reaction is maffay or town motivated. FF: null. Only reaction so far is to me having his name in a post. Lurking?ritoky: Getting an investigating/engaging/driving the thread feel, so town lean. The early discussion stuff with Eversince, Farah, The Shining and VE was a bit strange to me, since I read the early posts by Eversince and Farah as jokes to get stuff going (well: mission accomplished). Not sure about VE, but both ppl I have as a town lean, say he is town based on meta, so I'll probably be a lazy cunt and sheep them (for now). yo geript, what do you think of the bolded? like...why was it included?
Thoughtprocess at the time: Did I miss something? Oh, yeah FF posted stuff.... but that was super null? But didn't he react to my one post, so he has to be around a bit? Lurking? I can understand why it looks as forced, since I was kinda looking for stuff on a player that was super null at the time. *shrugs*
On November 16 2015 15:16 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 14:37 ritoky wrote:On November 16 2015 08:30 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:On November 16 2015 08:04 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 07:51 ritoky wrote:On November 16 2015 06:17 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 06:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:On November 16 2015 06:08 disformation wrote:On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote: [quote]
Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in.
Pretty sure he's town at least for now. Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining. From reading his past games he is slightly more posty but he's more mechanical as scum and lacks emotional responses about in game situations and it generally comes later after post a than in sync with the thread. This view comes from research and talking with people who know how to read him Alright, thanks.  Will probably have to look at a few Shining maffay games myself. quoting for empty promise potential. Should have said "maybe, if two suns rise tomorrow morning will I look at some past games." Nah, for realz, he only has two maffay games in the database, so I will be looking at those next. Despite me saying that I don't recall playing with The Shining we were both town in NSM IX. So I am currently reading both our filters from that game trying to recall stuff.  that's cool, i expect content later though. however before you finish that i am more interested on your thoughts on the actual game, not how it relates to previous games. who do you think is town? who is mafia? who is bad? who's ego is too big? y'kno....the usual Fair enough. Since I haven't played with the shining much, I am not that confident I will find amazing things in those old games. But I did try and pressure him in NSM9 a few times because I felt like he wasn't doing much. He was town in this game. So I am already not too sure about the meta read. His filter length in "Battle of the Drams", where he was mafia, is pretty similar to the one in NSM9, too... Well, back to this game: As stated before I have a town lean on geript for driving the game and prodding ppl into explaining stuff. Trfel.. kinda strange reaction to VE's uh... lets call it a poke. Not sure if his knee jerk reaction is maffay or town motivated. FF: null. Only reaction so far is to me having his name in a post. Lurking?ritoky: Getting an investigating/engaging/driving the thread feel, so town lean. The early discussion stuff with Eversince, Farah, The Shining and VE was a bit strange to me, since I read the early posts by Eversince and Farah as jokes to get stuff going (well: mission accomplished). Not sure about VE, but both ppl I have as a town lean, say he is town based on meta, so I'll probably be a lazy cunt and sheep them (for now). yo geript, what do you think of the bolded? like...why was it included? I'm 99% sure I've coached disinformation. I just can't remember if it was as scum or town. I really want to look at that before I give a full read on him. The bolded doesn't terribly mark me either way other than the question mark. He's made what would seem to be questions out of statements a few times. He kinda bugs me a bit but without going back to see how he thinks it's hard to say if it's scummy or just bad play. Right now. 7/7---VE/Ritoky 6/7-- 5/7-- 4.5/7--Farah 4/7--everyone else 3.5/7--Breshke 3/7--Disinfo 2/7--Trfel 1/7--Moosy I'm seriously like 99% sure moosy is scum.
Yes, you coached me in NSM13. Was VT that game. Link to my filter is in my profile.  I don't really get what you mean with "He's made what would seem to be questions out of statements a few times." but for some reason I like softening my reads and stuff, so that may come from that. xD
On November 16 2015 15:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 15:50 ritoky wrote:On November 16 2015 15:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On November 16 2015 15:42 ritoky wrote: why does you playing on other sites render meta worthless exactly? I can give you links to games for reference if you desire, but my play has changed a ton than what it usually was. okay, with your new improved play; could you tell me who is mafia or town? It's not necessarily improved but: Farah disformation Shining geript
Would be really interested in the reasons behind the geript maffay read.
On November 16 2015 23:34 NocturneMage wrote: Alright, so ritoky is certainly town for 362, I'm moving geript back to null until he can explain why he thinks the Trfel push is malicious, not seeing further explanation yet in his filter.
disformation why is Trfel's post "strange"? You are a newer player like myself so ignoring meta, can you expand on what you thought was wrong with it?
I can try.  So TS posts this:
On November 16 2015 06:22 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:19 geript wrote: Also if trfel hasn't said at least 1 smart thing by tomorrow we kill him. I like this. Trfels entrance was a one liner asking you to explain your read. And the posts are worryingly short. Is this the same Trfel that likes to post crazy WoT to start games and do stuff to get conversation and reads going? Because that is the town Trfel I know and this isn't him.
A few mins later Trfel posts this:
On November 16 2015 06:24 Trfel wrote:VisceraEyesVisceraEyes makes two posts showing suspicion of The Shining. + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2015 05:35 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote: Farrah your logic is flawed. I rolled scum a few games ago which means I'm due for another 10 town games, which this is. Your instant vote is pretty uncalled for so early, with so many people missing but I'll chalk it up to interesting entrance. How far you plan on pushing this obvious policy lynch?
Actually all the entrances so far suck. No TRs, town Y u make this so hard? No townreads = trying to keep options open. Marfia. On November 16 2015 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote: Like statistically speaking you could just close your eyes and point at a townie, so the fact that you can't trust ANYONE with so many having posted is a huge red flag for me. After these posts, VisceraEyes treats The Shining like he is town, specifically by telling The Shining how to properly play as town. + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2015 05:43 VisceraEyes wrote: As for finding scum not town, it's infinitely easier to narrow down your search by correctly identifying townies. This is known. On November 16 2015 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:44 The Shining wrote: If you want me to explain, the logic of closing your eyes and finding a town less than an hour to d1 by just pointing means statistically you have a higher chance of finding town by being random. By that same logic, snap voting this early on D1 means it has a higher chance of landing on town.
Farrah why do you think the game is boring less than an hour after it started? That feels pretty ñonsensical. Things have to happen for it to be exciting, or boring. Deciding its boring on the 3rd post of the game is pretty weird. And AS I said, it wasn't a random snap vote. It's a vote placed with reason. You may or may not agree with the reason, that's your prerogative and should affect whether or not you place your vote. Not mine. <3 Furthermore, Eversince's post on FarahBlackwing has a very large logical flaw, in that The Shining hadn't posted at the time. Eversince is comparing a townread based on actual posts to a vote with zero reason from this game, which does not work. VisceraEyes knows much better than this. This isn't VisceraEyes pushing The Shining, this is VisceraEyes reading incorrectly and flailing wildly at The Shining with words that don't match his stance.
Hm looking at the timestamps that could have been ninja... Well what I meant at the time with strange: 1) the timing 2) the targets. What is strange with the targets? Well he basically helps defending TS from mean VE, after TS expressed his dislike of Trfel. So in maffay motivations this trfel post could have been motivated to a) "hey look I am doing Trfel town stuff" and b) "hey TS I am totally on your side, ease up your suspicions on me."
Even with the TS post being a ninja motivation 1) still is possible, since the geript post. Not enough to give Trfel a scum read, but I won't give him a town read either.
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