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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2015 19:13 GMT
#1794
On November 24 2015 04:11 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 04:06 Onegu wrote:
On November 21 2015 13:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 21 2015 13:41 Onegu wrote:
Onegu VT claim.

Onegu hasnt read anything and wont until tomorrow.

##Vote Damdred

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Because why not it Damdy

Actually this makes me think he hasn't seen a scum QT. Obviously to be taken tongue in cheek but still.



tongue in cheek.....might have been dicking around, but the only thing he's consistently pinged you for is activity.

Trfel has a case on him, do you think it's coming from town? and his insistence that fecalfeast is mafia?



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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2015 19:13 GMT
#1795
nvm I found it
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2015 19:18 GMT
#1802
On November 20 2015 08:55 Trfel wrote:
Fecalfeast

Here the posts that Fecalfeast has made this game that show his read progression.
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On November 16 2015 08:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm not really reading too closely. Watching CFL with my dad and bro. Tone/feel reads telling me farah is town, geript is town, disform is mafia ever is towny...

Refs in this game are blind
On November 16 2015 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh disforms ninja post is fine for now.
On November 17 2015 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
VE you have me on steam lol my buddy hasn't done any of the online stuff yet

I'm mostly skimming here but I side with trfel on VE for sure.

town:
ritoky
trfel
nocturne

mafia:
moose
ve


that's all I got
On November 17 2015 08:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
ve seems ok now that i'm interacting with him
On November 17 2015 08:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On November 17 2015 08:07 Breshke wrote:
On November 17 2015 08:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
ve seems ok now that i'm interacting with him

why?

He's explained his reasoning for voting me further and my earlier scumread was entirely sheeped from trfel
On November 17 2015 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
##unvote

I'm going to completely ignore moose for the rest of this game but I believe that he is really being that much of a female dog about rolling town.
On November 17 2015 09:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 09:43 Trfel wrote:
On November 17 2015 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 17 2015 09:36 Trfel wrote:
Also, Fecalfeast, I believe you have zero scum reads right now?

Do you plan on doing something about that in the near future?

VE went from scum to null but sure.

What are you even asking here?

"FF you gonna keep playing?"
You had two scumreads, VisceraEyes and MoosyDoosy. You're no longer scumreading both of them.

I was just wanting your thoughts on that, that's all.

How much past experience do you have with MoosyDoosy?

Anyway, off to my exam.

I hosted the game where he bused the dick off his whole team as mafia. He legitimately seems like a player who much prefers scum play over town play.

That said, I also agree with the idea that giving him a free pass for throwing a tantrum is lame.


Fuck it ##vote mooseydoosey
On November 17 2015 09:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
scott's filter is unappetizing and stingily portioned. 0 stars out of 5
On November 17 2015 10:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
I could kill scott if we're gonna ignore moose again
On November 17 2015 11:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
If I were scum and moose was town, I'd be laughing it up in scum qt right now about how, unless he gets vigged, we have a guaranteed mislynch in lylo.

Which means we should probably get rid of him sooner than later.
On November 19 2015 08:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
1. Unless someone claims a vig shot on Geript, he was the only one adamant about trfel being scum and was getting upset that nobody listened to him.

2. His day 1 suspicions from his filter: VE, Moose, Scott, Me. I know 3/4 of those are town 100% while moose is showing some towny play since yesterday.

3. Totally willing to vote an uncc'd blue because she's martyring.

On November 19 2015 08:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
I can't say I'm tunneled on you trfel but right now that's where my brain is. I've only just been in your filter and i will take a closer look later. I've still got shit to do right now tho
On November 20 2015 07:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
I will kill bresh or trfel because geript confirmed the mafia kill makes it more likely he was offed for his reads, since mafia knows we have a vet* they wouldn't worry about a medic dodge.


*assuming farah's claim was real
On November 20 2015 08:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'd be more comfortable lynching breshke over angry!trfel

So, there are a few trends shown by the above posts.

1. Whoever posts is town
  • Disformation from mafia to null (?) for this post
  • VisceraEyes from mafia to null due to interacting with him
  • MoosyDoosy town for being completely obnoxious
  • Backs off on Trfel because he is angry
Furthermore, all of these are really, really weak. One by one:

The disinformation post that caused Fecalfeast to change his read isn't that great. It's the first actual reads post that disinformation has made all game, and it was only made on request. But this caused a dramatic change in Fecalfeast's read? Enough to make him never seriously discuss disformation again?

The way he downplayed his scumread on VisceraEyes is terrible. "I side with trfel on VE for sure", leading to a townread on Trfel and a scumread on VisceraEyes. Then, "ve seems ok now that i'm interacting with him" and "He's explained his reasoning for voting me further and my earlier scumread was entirely sheeped from trfel". First, VisceraEyes' Fecalfeast read wasn't a part of my case on VisceraEyes. The fact that this is what Fecalfeast mentioned, while also saying that his scumread came purely from my case, does not make sense at all.

For MoosyDoosy, his reasons are debatable, but the important thing is that he voted for MoosyDoosy again later. More on this later.

At the same time as Fecalfeast backed off of me (Trfel), he pushed onto Breshke. And he hadn't mentioned Breshke before. This push came out of nowhere. He said he'd rather lynch Breshke because I was "angry".

Every single time, there's a person who makes some posts, and Fecalfeast removes his scumread on that person. This is every single time that Fecalfeast has removed a scumread on someone. This reeks of "don't hurt me, I'm not scumreading you!"

2. "Decision" about Day 1 lynch target

Fecalfeast first includes MoosyDoosy as mafia in his list (no reason given), then votes MoosyDoosy for martyring. Then he unvotes MoosyDoosy because he thinks MoosyDoosy is just that obnoxious when he rolls town.

At this point, Fecalfeast had zero scum reads. So, he went back and voted for MoosyDoosy again, reasoning being that "giving him a free pass for throwing a tantrum is lame". It's noteworthy that at this time, there was a lot of push for lynching MoosyDoosy. This vote on MoosyDoosy is extremely opportunistic and seems to be a patch for Fecalfeast having zero reads.

Ritoky, one of the game's highest-influence players, then says that MoosyDoosy is exempt from being lynched. Fecalfeast immediately says he will look into scott31337. And then says he could kill scott31337. He doesn't care one bit about who is lynched, which is shown by his post saying that town ignoring MoosyDoosy causes them to automatically lose LYLO if MoosyDoosy is town, but ultimately vote for scott31337 instead of MoosyDoosy with no new reasons presented.

The progression is basically:
  • MoosyDoosy is scum
  • MoosyDoosy could do this as town
  • I'm going to vote MoosyDoosy just because
  • Scott31337 could be mafia, I could lynch him
  • MoosyDoosy should be dealt with sooner rather than later
  • Votes for scott31337 at deadline
Which makes no sense. Fecalfeast doesn't are at all about his vote. And why should he, when it's between two town players?

3. Other factors

I don't really have time to explain this as in detail, but namely his play on Day 3. He said that he didn't like disformation, but he never followed up on this or explained this at all. He said that I (Trfel) was suspicious primarily because of night kill analysis, but never actually addressed any of my posts or arguments like I asked him to, and like he said he would. Then he moved to Breshke, who he only mentioned once before in his filter, with a TOWN LEAN. Okay.

Conclusion

Fecalfeast is always taking the easy route, always making the easy reads. He's always keeping one scum read and when that stops being easy, he's just moving to the new easy scum read. His apathy towards the Day 1 lynch between two townies and forced read switches are extremely suspicious.



Meh, waffling on the day one lynch when 2 town and he is scum, what motivation does he have to do that. I would actually give him town points on that.

But the only taking easy reads point does have merit, I caught koshi before as scum because he was doing that.

Dont really get the other factor thing.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2015 19:26 GMT
#1806
Well I am going to make lunch be back in like 10 min. I made homemade Barbacoa that has been in the crock pot since 8pm last night. Shit is going to be so fucking good.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2015 19:30 GMT
#1810
On November 24 2015 04:28 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 04:26 Onegu wrote:
Well I am going to make lunch be back in like 10 min. I made homemade Barbacoa that has been in the crock pot since 8pm last night. Shit is going to be so fucking good.


I am F5ing this shit like and mad, trying to think of a solution I am comfortable with and you, on the verge of being lynched, are like "whatever, lets grab some epic food, cya losers." -.-



Tell me you wouldnt grab some either? I still havent read the thread and I am not going to get it done in 30 min. If you want me to look at something link it and let me know. I still have tons of votes on me and most people arent here. But I will BRB doesnt take long to take some shredded meat and put it on a tortilla with some rice and cheese....
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2015 19:40 GMT
#1817
On November 24 2015 04:37 disformation wrote:
Onegu: can you at least skim trhougb my post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=89#1766
And tell me what you think of Trfel based on that.


Alot more green then red and yellow. Not really following what that post is trying to accomplish...

I am out of tortilla shells. Fuck pain medicine making me forgetful...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2015 19:45 GMT
#1823
On November 24 2015 04:39 NocturneMage wrote:
Shining vs ritoky - try and weigh in on this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=73#1460
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=74#1464
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=74#1469
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=74#1472
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=74#1479
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=75#1496



Ritoky looks much worse from this exchange. Like shining brings points up and ritoky doesnt answer he just goes with this is why you are scum shining.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2015 19:52 GMT
#1829
Well looks like GG. Ritoky is a fine lynch also after me. I would do FF or ritoky. Maybe ritoky first.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2015 19:52 GMT
#1830
Sorry I couldnt really play sooner'
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2015 19:55 GMT
#1836
On November 24 2015 04:53 disformation wrote:
Yeah, at this point I would kinda prefer Trefel or maybe ritoky, since Onegu is right, if he flips town we get 0 additional info.
I really hope The Shining doesn't get modkilled...



Doubt trfel is scum here for trying to move votes off of me. He was the first to unvote remember. And he did so early enough that there could be a vote switch.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2015 19:56 GMT
#1839
##Unvote
##Vote: Ritoky
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 23 2015 20:59 GMT
#1886
Man am I good at this game
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