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On October 13 2015 21:16 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like if you coach mafia you are in my opinion supposed to work on what's happening in the game and more importantly what will most likely happen and discuss that and how your students will stay alive. Town is basically reactionary to what has happened, mafia is not. If you don't plan ahead you will just die most of the times. lol tbh i think it's a mixture of both. scumteams have failed just as much by being too rigid and not able to adapt to those crazy townies as they have at not planning ahead 
-cough- Rels team.
But tbh although rayn bitches about having to read the thread, he will probably do it anyway even if he coaches town as I had a dim suspicion he was doing somewhat with me.
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Okay, these are my thoughts on this really dumb coaching debate.
There are two tiers to newbies.
- The first tier are the brand new newbies who are playing Mafia for the first time. For these people, coaches like rsoultin who teach how to look townie are good. I remember rsoultin was my first coach and she did a decent job at keeping the information thrown at me to a good level and focused on town psychology that would make me look good.
- The second tier are the newbies who are coming back and have the basics of looking townie down. These people mostly require advice on how to formulate reads and to push/pursue them as well as needing review on whether or not their case is good as well as learning how to make people listen to them. rayn was a good coach for me because he helped look over my cases and gave me the right prods on making my reads.
AFTER THIS there's not much other advice that coaches can give other than extreme set up speculation or more difficult stuff and other fine tuning in general. At this point the best coach is just experience and playing more games.
To this, I think there should be different coaches to different strengths. As I said, rsoultin was really good in my first game because it was literally my first ever forum Mafia game and if she talked about making reads and having people sheep me and other stuff I would probably be overwhelmed.
After that, people should be paired up with coaches like rayn who is good at making cases and forcing people to follow him.
These are just examples of coaches so idk but the people wanting to coach probably know what their best at coaching like rsoultin and rayn so they can figure themselves out.
There are of course supreme coaches like geript who is like a blanket god coach for the Mafia alignment and no one is better than him so yeah.
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I guess...
/in
I swear if I roll VT again tho...
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I worry that when Eversince rolls Mafia, it'll be a bit too easy to know. I just can't see her replicating her town style. o.O
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On October 17 2015 06:04 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I worry that when Eversince rolls Mafia, it'll be a bit too easy to know. I just can't see her replicating her town style. o.O I've rolled mafia in offsite games twice. I was instantly lynched day 1 in the first game, shot by a town vig the second... I'll just cross my fingers and really hope to not role it.
oh? So I was right in that you played Mafia elsewhere. :3
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Are we waiting on BlazingHand or someone else to confirm?
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ofc I have to prod BlazingHand to start the game lol
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Also I kind of regret signing up for BH games in the first place. I always roll town in them which is getting super super boring.
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rsoultin should make another game for me to roll Mafia in tbh.
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On October 18 2015 05:23 FarahBlackwing wrote:
What is a bus?
Where you kill your Mafia teammate to get town credit.
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On October 18 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else
welp too late.
##Vote: GlowingBear
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I'm gonna look so much like town from this I'll carry the team for us GB.
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On October 18 2015 05:28 Vonthin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm gonna look so much like town from this I'll carry the team for us GB. wow your early game strategy is great, i dont see how it will fail
I'm going to bus you D2 so just wait bb.
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On October 18 2015 05:29 Vonthin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:28 Vonthin wrote:On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm gonna look so much like town from this I'll carry the team for us GB. wow your early game strategy is great, i dont see how it will fail I'm going to bus you D2 so just wait bb. I love public transportation, can we subway it instead? They are faster.
I will subway you so hard D2 bb.
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On October 18 2015 05:30 The Shining wrote:
Ohaithere guys. This is probably one of the first games that im not starting halfway into the day phase. This is weird.
Yeah I'm at like a 90-95% town roll rate and it apparently hasn't changed. It's amusing, but boring.
Someone be obvscum for D1 red flip pls
I am such a shiny town.
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I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.
mmm...choices choices choices
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On October 18 2015 05:38 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.
mmm...choices choices choices This makes me want to actually lynch you
ilyt. But I seriously want to decide on a meta. I did the rayn meta when rayn was my coach. I've been trying to do the rsoul meta but I'm not good enough and I always get hit or miss. Or I might just do idgaf like Crossfire which was mildly entertaining to do and I actually guessed some of the 3p/Mafia.
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On October 18 2015 05:38 Vonthin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.
mmm...choices choices choices why not just use both styles at the same time and be a super scum hunter
Very true, very true. Unfortunately, I'm still practicing both styles and I want to decide on one to use. It's also how my tone reads interfere with inconsistencies and vice versa in different situations which drives me crazy.
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On October 18 2015 05:39 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.
mmm...choices choices choices Well your looking back on inconsistencies and hard questioning last game ended up with you tunneling a townie whoooooooooppsssss You should probably give all the fucks, tho. If you're town we need you
BRUH let's not get into this. You have to admit your play was strange that game. You said marv was the better lynch but didn't vote for him and you did lie a few times. -.-
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On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here.
I plan to spam so hard you won't be able to read me.
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On October 18 2015 05:44 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:39 The Shining wrote:On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.
mmm...choices choices choices Well your looking back on inconsistencies and hard questioning last game ended up with you tunneling a townie whoooooooooppsssss You should probably give all the fucks, tho. If you're town we need you BRUH let's not get into this. You have to admit your play was strange that game. You said marv was the better lynch but didn't vote for him and you did lie a few times. -.- My carelessness and freedom to say whatever should be a town tell xP but I admit I wasn't particularly stellar up until the late shenanny.
That last shenanny was lit. Me telling everyone to consolidate on OO/Stoicism_/me, sicklucker yelling at everyone to switch onto Stoicism_, you coming up with points on him, town voting for him en masse. Ah, beauty at its finest.
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On October 18 2015 05:45 Vonthin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here. I plan to spam so hard you won't be able to read me. Don't you want to be read as a townie though?
I don't particularly care tbh.
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On October 18 2015 05:45 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here. I plan to spam so hard you won't be able to read me. Town Moosy was very self-conscious of spam last game. Why the change?
I've already flung open the gates of spam. It will be difficult to close them now.
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On October 18 2015 06:11 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 06:06 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Moos is pretty obvious scum and I don't see any logical point in you trying to joke with him unless you are trying to cover for some form of slip of the tongue.
Let me rephrase it: If scum wants to survive, why would he act in such suicidal way? Also, I was joking, I'm not trying to cover anyone. Why do you think this? Why a townie wouldn't joke about it? It's simple: any mafia claim is a joke. No mafia would claim mafia and a town can't possibly claim mafia unless it's jokingly. So his post was not alignmrnt indicative
I would actually totally claim Mafia for the mindgames involved with it.
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I would also totally joke around and spam a ton to appear townie.
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On October 18 2015 06:14 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:45 The Shining wrote:On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here. Hi! Are you happy to be here? Actually no since I rolled VT just like I did in all of my last games ffs and I have moosy and gb spam up the thread although I said pregame that I'm on a limited schedule. actually no, I#m not happy.
aight this post was pretty awkward tbh.
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- Awkwardly inserts VT claim
- Pretends to be angry
- Pretense of answering a question.
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On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.
He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.
So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.
To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now.
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Oh yeah, Shining is null too.
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On October 18 2015 06:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I see no problem in boxers post
Really? Read it again. He could have just answered that he was annoyed at the spam but he feels the need to give an excuse of having no time as well as claiming VT all in one. It's very awkward to cram it into one post hm...?
Also, while I realize that he normally does have real life obligations, it is still something to note that he feels it is necessary to claim that he won't be posting much.
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On October 18 2015 06:30 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I see no problem in boxers post Really? Read it again. He could have just answered that he was annoyed at the spam but he feels the need to give an excuse of having no time as well as claiming VT all in one. It's very awkward to cram it into one post hm...? Also, while I realize that he normally does have real life obligations, it is still something to note that he feels it is necessary to claim that he won't be posting much. I really can't see clear scum morivation behind that post. I mean, he even said BEFORE the game started that he wouldn't have enough time to play anyway
Then why is he stressing that he won't have time even further? He's giving an excuse where he's already provided one and where it really isn't necessary because he's already self-conscious about how he'll look in the thread.
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On October 18 2015 06:33 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also I kind of regret signing up for BH games in the first place. I always roll town in them which is getting super super boring. This seems like your trying to push this a little too much - just a thought here... Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB can i bus you again? And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else welp too late. ##Vote: GlowingBear And a shit early vote. Now he's spamming up the thread. I'm not caring for this play so far. GB is a slight townlean - and that's about it.
hello scott.
shall we dance our dance of death?
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I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak.
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On October 18 2015 06:53 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 06:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:33 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also I kind of regret signing up for BH games in the first place. I always roll town in them which is getting super super boring. This seems like your trying to push this a little too much - just a thought here... On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB can i bus you again? And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else welp too late. ##Vote: GlowingBear And a shit early vote. Now he's spamming up the thread. I'm not caring for this play so far. GB is a slight townlean - and that's about it. hello scott. shall we dance our dance of death? Sure is looking that way so far bud - and what kind of response is this? Are you preparing for my mislynch?
hello? where did that come from? it was merely a friendly invitation.
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On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak. Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old.
I decide to have a bit of fun as GB was my Mafia partner in the game where I doubled bused my partners. As a result, I ask him as a joke if I can bus him this game. GB understands the joke and says that I should say it in the QT. As a continuation of the joke I say it's too late and remark that I'll be confirmed town after the "bus" and then vote for GB.
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On October 18 2015 08:50 The Shining wrote:
Because I'm bored and no one is doing anything and half the game hasn't shown up. And I've been known to take things super seriously so I'm trying to break out of that and be lax this game.
So are you scum? Because that sounds like TMI. How would you know that it's actual townies that are doing the shitposting and causing chaos?
yeees so boring tbh. I'm back to cause more chaos if it helps anyone. :D
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On October 18 2015 08:01 KelsierSC wrote:
moosy and then one of GB/shining are scum probably.
The mafia QT probably looks like "hi dude we both rolled mafia LOLOLOL let's shit up the thread"
oh dear. Maybe the team is Moosy/GB/Shining. Hey! All the pieces fit!
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On October 18 2015 09:52 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 08:38 Vonthin wrote:
I don't understand this game lol, nothing like the few games I've played in or obs'd. So much shitposting to provoke people or to just cause chaos, I don't know why towns people would do this And why do you think they're town?
As a continuation of this, what alignment do you think people are so far?
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On October 18 2015 09:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Moosy, why are you looking so handsome today?
I'm meeting a girl today.
Oh wait! She's right here!
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On October 19 2015 00:19 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I think moos is probably scum I'm not overly confident in that but his filter is pretty useless. The thing that gives me the most pause is his moments talking about the vt claim.
this is completely nAI so if you read my intentional garbage as scum then you should scum read me.
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Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.
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I liked his stuff on scott and I still think boxerfred is bad.
On October 18 2015 16:47 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +Boxer- Not much for me to go on, asked Mooser to stop shitposting was nice but I feel like the limited time thing is an excuse I have seen scum use often. More of a null read but 2 lazy to make a category just for him since he is the only one besides the 4 who haven't posted this is bullshit, I said it like 3 times pregame. however let's start. MD - would policy "anti-spam" lynch anytime. Kelsier gets a scum lean from me since he comes in the thread and basically locates scum in the 3 most active players thus far. i dunno why everyone jumps on the "Farah bus what is this" shit why can't she be lying? well even if she's lying, it's NAI I think so I give her a null and not a town lean as others do. top scum would be moosydoosy simply because there's like five opportunities where he's posting useless stuff, successfully pulling sicklucker and gb into gif fights. I remember the game where he was scum and I was town and he was overwhelmingly discussing and discussing.. also a bs vote from him. well that's not too interesting because it's day1 and even first half.
I don't like gif's so I didn't participate in those, thank you very much. Scum reading me off of the fact that you dislike gif's is pretty lame too.
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Again, boxerfred is really weird.
In his opening post he crammed a VT claim, a complaint, and a scum read.
In his next post, he tries to place blame on me for posting gif's when I didn't. He even tries to scum read me for it which is lol-worthy.
Just scum reading me here is also super surface level because he's not looking into how I operate and more about my outwards appearance.
His attempt to say he knows my meta is terrible because he was only in the game where I was Mafia and he's not making any effort to check my others game where I literally do the same thing as I did in that game.
I mean...What is there to like?
- Awkward first opening
- Says I started gif wars when I didn't even participate
- Scum reads me for gif's which I didn't even post
- Applies appearance reads
- Makes no attempt to support his supposed “meta” read
##unvote
##vote boxerfred
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I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.
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GlowingBear, I'll look over your list observations in a bit. I kinda just glazed over it the first time. I will note that KelsierSC acting the way he did and getting worked up over it is not as h0t as he normally acts.
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On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat. Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good. I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here.
It's pretty exciting don't you think? My initial gut reads on Rels have led me to scum read him in the past 2 games where he was scum but I always ignored them because of what everyone else said. Now that my initial gut read is town that means I can hard town read him without a doubt. Hm...maybe a bit later down the line, but not for now.
Also, I do believe that finding town is just as important as finding scum so that I can prevent mislynches and create my standard townie circle early on.
My thoughts on your question? I think it's garbage! ^-^
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On October 19 2015 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat. On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good. I get the impression you are more concerned with reading Rels town than you are finding scum here. It's pretty exciting don't you think? My initial gut reads on Rels have led me to scum read him in the past 2 games where he was scum but I always ignored them because of what everyone else said. Now that my initial gut read is town that means I can hard town read him without a doubt. Hm...maybe a bit later down the line, but not for now. Also, I do believe that finding town is just as important as finding scum so that I can prevent mislynches and create my standard townie circle early on. My thoughts on your question? I think it's garbage! ^-^ I don't remember asking you a god damn thing
There was a question implied in it because you were addressing the statement to me than to everyone else so I responded.
But that's semantics which I enjoy debating anyway. But for the sake of everyone else who dislikes spam, I think I'll just end the conversation here.
-snip-
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On October 19 2015 02:34 FarahBlackwing wrote:
To moosydoosy
I've looked at several of your games over the past little while to attempt to get a hold of where you are and if I'm wrong there are a few things I need you to talk about.
1) in your past town games you generally have a good bit of banter with the rest of the town at points you go against a somewhat thread sentiments early and stick your head out in disagreement against town leaders (rels can fit here). But you lack a hard scum read in your town games early. Why are you so sure so early with no interactions that you generally thrive on.
this is wrong.
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On October 19 2015 02:35 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:
for an actual question, what's your opinion of the new guy, vonthin?
null. I thing someone brought something up about him which I need to look back for.
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which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??
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On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ?? i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions. i don't see where you townread him?
On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.
He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.
So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that. To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now.
The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it.
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On October 19 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Why did you dodge the question I asked, its perfectly reasonable. You are way to sure on boxer without much interaction or postng at all. I don't care if you think my idea of you not having hard suck reads is right or wrong answer my question.
Dodging the question? I'd rather not answer a question that's based on a false premise. I don't know what games you're looking at but I've been sure about D1 scumreads in the past so saying I'm being too confident here and deviating from meta is false.
Also something you should learn concerning me is that I really have no meta other than that I make a ton of posts so drop any pre-conceptions you're trying to make.
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On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ?? i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions. i don't see where you townread him? On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.
He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.
So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that. To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now. The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it. oh right i just didn't see his name. My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it. And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check" for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring.
huh? kSC, you do know that I'm not the type to exactly splurge everything that's on my mind? I clearly recall in my last game where I said something like that. But then again, you were scum there so perhaps you didn't make the effort to read it. mmm...I keep my developing reads to myself unless I'm trying to provoke a reaction or I'm certain about something.
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Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?
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On October 19 2015 03:01 FarahBlackwing wrote:
We aren't even 20 pages into a game and you have a rock solid scum read on someone who,has barely posted at all on something that is flimsy at best.
So you're expecting me not to have scum reads? ok. What about your own scum reads?
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On October 19 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 02:47 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ?? i already said this response is inadequate. it doesn't make sense to have just "null someone said stuff" when YOU are asking him questions. i don't see where you townread him? On October 18 2015 06:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.
He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.
So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that. To be completely serious, I do like to generate a little discussion in games. So far what conclusions have I drawn? Well, one is that boxerfred's post just now is super awkward and I don't really like it. Another is that you are pretty probably town for coming in with a townie mindset and without addressing the possibility of what Mafia would do. So you are a town read and boxerfred is a scum read. The other dude is a town lean and GB is a null right now. The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it. oh right i just didn't see his name. My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it. And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check" for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring. huh? kSC, you do know that I'm not the type to exactly splurge everything that's on my mind? I clearly recall in my last game where I said something like that. But then again, you were scum there so perhaps you didn't make the effort to read it. mmm...I keep my developing reads to myself unless I'm trying to provoke a reaction or I'm certain about something. you splurge pretty much everything else. So just to have your story down, you asked a guy to give his entire list of reads, when he did and they didn't line up with anything you had, rather than say anything you just moved on, said "eh he's null i guess I will check out what that other guy said"
I shared some thoughts, other people shared some thoughts, I realized Vonthin didn't really extrapolate on most of the people that posted so I asked him for his thoughts on people. What he said didn't line up with most of what I think but it might just be a case of newbie so I dropped him to a null in my mind, and am now checking the thread in between Splegg queues. Any other questions?
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On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello? so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?
This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh.
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-sigh-
I'm playing games right now kSC thank you very much. I already said I'm going to look at Vonthin LATER but not right now thank you very much. Unless you want me to dive into TL and drop what I'm doing at your command?
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On October 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello? so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it? This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh. well to be honest the list is more important to you than anyone since you were the person who asked for it. I shouldn't have to command you to do it.
So you're expecting me to do something that I don't care to at the moment? I'm sorry but TL isn't more important to me than winning games of Splegg.
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On October 19 2015 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 03:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello? so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it? This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh. well to be honest the list is more important to you than anyone since you were the person who asked for it. I shouldn't have to command you to do it. So you're expecting me to do something that I don't care to at the moment? I'm sorry but TL isn't more important to me than winning games of Splegg. I mean he did it 14 hours ago I thought you might have given it more than a cursory glance. considering you asked him for it to start with. when you get a moment then i will await your thoughts I don't want to stop you doing whatever it is you are doing.
I just got back and I'm playing splegg. I didn't check in the meantime of however long I last posted.
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On October 19 2015 03:08 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I've given what reads I have at the moment.
In no way have I said you aren't supposed to have scum reads and trying to color my question in that light is questionable at best.
You literally just said I shouldn't have strong scum reads this early in the game lol.
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On October 19 2015 03:18 FarahBlackwing wrote:
You know what you just said doesn't negate anything I've said right?
Yes it does. I have had strong scum reads in the past just like now and you saying otherwise doesn't change that fact.
I checked back on Vonthin and he's still a null. I mainly want his thoughts on what Rels said about scott. I also remembered the thing that people brought up about him but he also answered that somewhat. mmm...not much to go on so far.
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On October 19 2015 03:20 KelsierSC wrote:
just to speed this along
Farah is saying "you shouldn't have strong scum reads based on no interaction
not "you should have no scum reads"
moosy disagrees with you Farah
in general as a new who hasn't played in lots of games with moosy or anyone using meta from past games wont help you well.
I did have interaction. boxerfred is pushing things on me that I didn't do. How am I supposed to read that? As townie? No...it's part of why I'm scumreading him...
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What is your townread on GB based off of scott? I'd like to know which posts made you read him so.
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On October 19 2015 03:29 FarahBlackwing wrote:
However I'll end this here and move on.
I think kelsier is,most likely town. If he was scum a good plan would be to let moos and myself spam up the thread when we can't see eye to eye. But he interjects to try to get us back on a different path. I see good town motivation and his dogged questioning and prodding seems to come from town.
He's done that dogged questioning and prodding on me as Mafia and anyone can play mediator when he knows the two fighters are town. Not that I'm saying kSC is Mafia but it's very easy for him to do what he did as Mafia as well.
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So...he says I can be town or scum and says he can't read me and that he shouldn't lynch the potentially most active player.
Then...
He goes all the way to somehow getting around to the fact that I have a possibility of being scum due to BH RNG and that me pushing him makes me scum.
Besides the ridiculous fact that you're using BH RNG as a reason to push me and how you're focusing on the people talking about you, you also contradict yourself by saying that me and GB are tying ourselves together and then say that we can't be in the same team.
ok.
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I kind of want to be lynched just to see boxerfred's reaction. Him thinking he can read me off of one game is pretty funny.
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sigh ofc Rels comes in and thinks he caught scum.
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Like I've already explained why I responded the way I did. I didn't read the thread properly so didn't want to give a proper answer before I evaluated things but Kels was a bum and kept pressing me to go into what I was doing in real life to explain why I wasn't re-evaluating things. That's basically it lol.
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On October 19 2015 22:28 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 22:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like I've already explained why I responded the way I did. I didn't read the thread properly so didn't want to give a proper answer before I evaluated things but Kels was a bum and kept pressing me to go into what I was doing in real life to explain why I wasn't re-evaluating things. That's basically it lol. That's not what you first said though. You said and quoted and proved that you put Vonthin from townlean to null for his list post. Only after you said you didn't take the time to read his list post. So either you're changing your story, or you're saying you put Vonthin from townlean to null for a post you didn't read.
smh I said I skimmed it and it struck an odd chord so I dropped him and resolved to look into it later. good job at reading comprehension for the tenth game Rels.
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If you had read the thread, I did read the post and gave thoughts. But reading comprehension for the 10th game Rels. gj
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Also, you and kSC expecting me to care about this game when I want to roll mafia or a blue roll I actually can comprehend and use is bad. Like if you guys seriously have expectations for me and think that me skimming the answer to a question I asked is so gamebreaking then go ahead. But holding me to such expectations is so dumb. I do what I want whether you like it or not.
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If you read boxerfred's post, it's super awful where he switches between me and The SHining then comes up with a BS reason to try and scumread me. Even before that he blamed me for gif wars when I didn't post any. lol.
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On October 20 2015 01:17 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 01:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If you had read the thread, I did read the post and gave thoughts. But reading comprehension for the 10th game Rels. gj Show nested quote +On October 19 2015 03:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 19 2015 03:18 FarahBlackwing wrote:
You know what you just said doesn't negate anything I've said right? Yes it does. I have had strong scum reads in the past just like now and you saying otherwise doesn't change that fact. I checked back on Vonthin and he's still a null. I mainly want his thoughts on what Rels said about scott. I also remembered the thing that people brought up about him but he also answered that somewhat. mmm...not much to go on so far. This right ? Great read. Such insight gained from your question. <= Irony Now can you comment what SL and I said about him ?
Yes it is a good read. There's not enough on Vonthin and while his reads contradict with mine, that's NAI as far as this game goes because it's okay to apply surface reads. There are better things to discuss anyway.
sicklucker is not pissing me off which is setting off alarm bells that I refuse to consider because he is bb. But I'll check what you wrote.
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I was going through your filter but got angry over how you're making a big deal over expectations of me so I stopped reading. So no, I didn't really get to the part on sicklucker. So he's null as usual.
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I mean, I'll sheep whatever you guys want tbh. For D1 at least.
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On October 20 2015 02:08 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 02:03 Vonthin wrote:My thoughts on everyone now that I've read their filters. Moosy- Slight scum read, I didn't like his opening spam shitpost crap, and some of the reason Rels brought up after I made my post the other night. He has some posts though where I can see town motivation but the useless posts outweigh them for me. LoneMeow- I think he is town, I see clear motivation behind the things he is doing trying to get reads on people. Sicklurker-Leaning slight scum on him, lots of fluff in his filter, I don't understand his Lonemeow vote, I don't see anything to go on besides him not posting a lot to make him scum. On October 19 2015 22:44 sicklucker wrote:
like he starts with scott "easy town read"
then he follows up on the next guy "not much to read on" like you could have used that on scott lol. Then he just lists the two easy people as scum Never said lol ez town read or that he was my top read just because I typed his read first in the list., He was just under my list for people who I thought were town for the time. I liked the posts he made and he had no fluff. My strongest town read at the time I made that list was GB. He seemed to made his opinions of me without reading my posts then read them and changed them after someone called him out on his and read them. GB- Still town, I don't see any scum motivation behind his posts. Boxer-- Null still, I understand his reasoning behind his cases but I don't agree with most of them. Has some fluff here and there and his posts/opinions vary so I don't really understand him. Scott-Besides not posting a lot, his posts still read town to me. I understand lynching for inactivity though. Rels- I think he is town, I like most of his posts up un till his recent ones with his case against Lonemeow which I think is a pretty weak case for day1. Farah--Town, Clear town motivation behind her posts, no fluff. Her case against Ever is clear and thought out and makes sense. Ever-- The big thing that leaps out to me in his filter is the big post with all the quote about his case against KSC, was a big jumbled mess and a somewhat weak case. His thoughts are all over the place in the start but It could just be him being new and reacting to the posts he sees. Shining- I think he is town, I like his posts and arguments, has some things I don't like but the things I like outweigh the ones I don't. KSC - He started off looking scum to me but he started to look town since the last day. I like his reads and questions since he stopped posting fluff and being so negative at the start Fecal- Seems scummy, posts seem half assed which shit reads that doesn't give any explanations. Not enough to go on for a Day 1 lynch. Would Lynch: Lurker, Ever, Moosy Needs more posts/convincing: Fecal If anyone has specific questions for me hit me up fast since I have to go to my afternoon classes soon. Don't know if this is the scummiest thing I've ever seen or the cutest thing I've ever seen. It looks like a child made this list. p: No offense. SL you read his past games right ? Did he post like that ?
Your lists look like this.
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Also, I already said what I think of Vonthin and that thought matches what you just asked. I already said his reads are surface level but that's NAI at best for a newbie game. tbh I'd like to lynch someone else than Vonthin for D1 but if you guys start a wagon on him then I'm happy to consolidate if necessary.
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Lynching Eversince for making no sense and being all over the place is dumb because she did that last game.
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On October 20 2015 02:18 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 02:13 Rels wrote:On October 20 2015 02:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, I already said what I think of Vonthin and that thought matches what you just asked. I already said his reads are surface level but that's NAI at best for a newbie game. tbh I'd like to lynch someone else than Vonthin for D1 but if you guys start a wagon on him then I'm happy to consolidate if necessary. What do you think of "newbie scum maybe wouldn't have 3 scumread in his first serious post" ? Is this a bad reasonning ? ??
I mean, the game is to find 3 scum so why wouldn't he if he's either town or mafia emulating town?
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On October 20 2015 02:23 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 02:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 20 2015 02:18 Rels wrote:On October 20 2015 02:13 Rels wrote:On October 20 2015 02:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, I already said what I think of Vonthin and that thought matches what you just asked. I already said his reads are surface level but that's NAI at best for a newbie game. tbh I'd like to lynch someone else than Vonthin for D1 but if you guys start a wagon on him then I'm happy to consolidate if necessary. What do you think of "newbie scum maybe wouldn't have 3 scumread in his first serious post" ? Is this a bad reasonning ? ?? I mean, the game is to find 3 scum so why wouldn't he if he's either town or mafia emulating town? Cause I remarked as scum he's super difficult to scumread town 'cause you're afraid they will scumread you back. So I was thinking maybe he's not scum because he did that. But now I'm thinking maybe that ain't a strong reasonning.
I guess? As I said, there's not enough to go on Vonthin right now.
I'm willing to not lynch boxerfred so long as he tries not to scumread me for made-up or ridiculous reasons in the future.
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##unvote
##vote scott31337
sounds cool
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On October 20 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 03:02 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Autocorrect got me, boxer his biggest scum read is on Scott hut he totally just sheeped onto Scott with him. Oh well moosy did say he would be happy lynching scott earlier.
On October 20 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##unvote
##vote scott31337
sounds cool
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On October 20 2015 04:35 sicklucker wrote:
these wagons are so boring
Please explain.
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On October 20 2015 04:37 boxerfred wrote:
im here, gonna catch up. exhausted as fuck since I moved in today. I said that pregame, just to clear it up guys. anything urgent happening?
There are 2 major wagons. What are your thoughts on them?
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On October 20 2015 04:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Can't figure this out. Sheeping Rels.
##vote: scott31337
...hm...?
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On October 20 2015 04:42 sicklucker wrote:
rels can you simple that down i cant read that shit
scott's reaction to me and GB's joke was to scumread it. Then he did an abrupt 180 and asked me to explain it and when I said it was a joke, he said he knew all along. But his posts beforehand definitely showed he didn't think it was a joke. His entrance was lackluster but it could be put down to not having enough time and voting for Eversince could be him trying to save himself. He hasn't done much otherwise tbh.
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So why didn't you change your vote at all sicklucker?
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LoneMeow comes off looking gross from this but I don't know why he voted for scott and not Eversince in this situation unless they're scum buddies or if both scott and Eversince were town.
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Or LoneMeow is town and really is clueless.
hm...Eversince, I'll have to hold you to your promise on participating in the following phases as you look really weird off of this.
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On October 20 2015 05:05 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 05:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
LoneMeow comes off looking gross from this but I don't know why he voted for scott and not Eversince in this situation unless they're scum buddies or if both scott and Eversince were town. Why not? If he knows we are both town and can jump between either of us then who does it matter who he can consolidate on?
I did say "if both scott and Eversince were town."
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On October 20 2015 05:06 Eversince wrote:
Also, I'm so happy to actually be able to actually play this game Moosy, trust me, I'm going to be the most obvious townie that ever lived.
Just a note because it feels like I'm pocketing you ever so slightly, but if you're town, evaluate me on the same level as everyone else and try not to feel bias towards me from the previous game.
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On October 20 2015 05:09 Eversince wrote:
Oh I'm not. I hated your pointless spam so much yesterday. I would of happily lynched you if I came back today and you were high on the list.
oh ok. good.
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gj ur late boxer.
And no, I didn't sheep scott because of you no matter how egotistical you are. I sheeped Rels onto scott because he was the first person to bring it up. And I already said that I'd let you pushing me for BS and false reasons go so I don't see why there's a contradiction there.
...Are you sure you're reading?
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mmm...Eversince's change in story is vaguely concerning to be honest.
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On October 20 2015 06:21 Eversince wrote:
What change in story?
Why didn't you post anything about me at all when you were so willing to lynch me?
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I like the bf tunnel. I'd like to volunteer for D2 lynch willingly.
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On October 20 2015 21:53 boxerfred wrote:
Did you read what I wrote?
not really tbh. I assumed it had to do with killing me.
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Okay, I am back but had too much to catch up on so I just started from the night flip because that’s most interesting and did quick reads through filters.
Rels/sicklucker is a situation I don’t want to touch right now because it’s dumb and it’s NAI for both players. It’ll be a lot better to just find the other Mafia and figure out alignments from there. So taking them out of the surviving list, it’s this:
Vonthin
FarahBlackwing
Eversince
GlowingBear
boxerfred
FecalFeast
The Shining
- boxerfred is probably town for thinking that my shitty posts during N1 were good and giving me the credit for that when it came from someone else’s line of questioning (lol). He pulls reads out for some strange and/or misguided reasoning as town. So probs town.
- The Shining is acting like shitty Shining when he’s being tunneled. Although he should start posting more soon. But he’s probs town.
- Farah’s thoughts are logical and good. So he’s probs town.
If we take these people out, it leaves us with a pool of:
Vonthin
Eversince
GlowingBear
FecalFeast
- GlowingBear is hard to read, but his reaction to flip and afterwards shenanigans seems townie. But I’ll have to go check, so he’s a null.
- FecalFeast is hard to read until I look at him properly so he’s a null.
- Vonthin’s last posts is something I’ll have to look at. He was a scum lean before but I didn’t really look at his play since then so scum lean still.
- Eversince is reaaally different from her last game. In the last one she was obstinate and refused to listen to others and pursued her reads to no end. Seeing her here being waffly about her reads is not something that I normally see her do. So scum lean.
##Vote: Eversince
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On October 22 2015 00:54 Rels wrote:
Moosy what is your SL's read without taking the claim's situation into account.
He feels more like Wile E. Coyote tbh.
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On October 22 2015 00:56 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 00:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels/sicklucker is a situation I don’t want to touch right now because it’s dumb and it’s NAI for both players. It’ll be a lot better to just find the other Mafia and figure out alignments from there. So taking them out of the surviving list, it’s this: This is the dumbest thing you've ever written, and that's saying a lot. Why would you put SL and I out of your lynch pool for something you said is NAI ? You should judge us on other criterias then.
It gives me a headache and I don't feel like analyzing that too much right now. I'm just going with my gut which says to reconsider you guys later.
On October 22 2015 00:56 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 00:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 22 2015 00:54 Rels wrote:
Moosy what is your SL's read without taking the claim's situation into account. He feels more like Wile E. Coyote tbh. Please expand.
sicklucker was a smurf as Wile E. Coyote and he flipped scum which I caught him out on but got lynched D1 for. lol.
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Although Rels being unnecessarily antagonistic is always a scum tell for him.
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Meh, my pride in reading Rels D1 is too much. If necessary, I'll read through sicklucker's filter and then lynch him but I sincerely think there are better pastures.
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Oh yeah, if I'm to read sicklucker outside of the weird claim business, it would be a null because he's hard to read and I need to re-look into him like FecalFeast/GlowingBear. :D
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On October 22 2015 01:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Moos why were you so against lynching ever yesterday to the point of misrepresenting me. And today you are super onboard when nothing changed from yesterday
I care about ~30% for this game up from the small 8% or so that I had. I also had just ignored Ever's big posts until I gave a go through her filter.
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I think it's cute how boxerfred thinks that I care if I'm lynched or that his vote is supposed to pressure. lol.
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On October 22 2015 04:00 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 03:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think it's cute how boxerfred thinks that I care if I'm lynched or that his vote is supposed to pressure. lol. No it's cute that you keep scumreading him even after you voted WITH him last day
scum reading boxer? where? I now have a town read on him.
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On October 22 2015 05:38 Eversince wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 19 2015 01:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Again, boxerfred is really weird.
In his opening post he crammed a VT claim, a complaint, and a scum read.
In his next post, he tries to place blame on me for posting gif's when I didn't. He even tries to scum read me for it which is lol-worthy.
Just scum reading me here is also super surface level because he's not looking into how I operate and more about my outwards appearance.
His attempt to say he knows my meta is terrible because he was only in the game where I was Mafia and he's not making any effort to check my others game where I literally do the same thing as I did in that game.
I mean...What is there to like?
- Awkward first opening
- Says I started gif wars when I didn't even participate
- Scum reads me for gif's which I didn't even post
- Applies appearance reads
- Makes no attempt to support his supposed “meta” read
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##vote boxerfred On October 20 2015 02:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 02:23 Rels wrote:On October 20 2015 02:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 20 2015 02:18 Rels wrote:On October 20 2015 02:13 Rels wrote:On October 20 2015 02:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, I already said what I think of Vonthin and that thought matches what you just asked. I already said his reads are surface level but that's NAI at best for a newbie game. tbh I'd like to lynch someone else than Vonthin for D1 but if you guys start a wagon on him then I'm happy to consolidate if necessary. What do you think of "newbie scum maybe wouldn't have 3 scumread in his first serious post" ? Is this a bad reasonning ? ?? I mean, the game is to find 3 scum so why wouldn't he if he's either town or mafia emulating town? Cause I remarked as scum he's super difficult to scumread town 'cause you're afraid they will scumread you back. So I was thinking maybe he's not scum because he did that. But now I'm thinking maybe that ain't a strong reasonning. I guess? As I said, there's not enough to go on Vonthin right now. I'm willing to not lynch boxerfred so long as he tries not to scumread me for made-up or ridiculous reasons in the future. On October 20 2015 04:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2015 04:37 boxerfred wrote:
im here, gonna catch up. exhausted as fuck since I moved in today. I said that pregame, just to clear it up guys. anything urgent happening? There are 2 major wagons. What are your thoughts on them? On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:Day 1 Vote Count scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, GlowingBear, Fecalfeast, Eversince, Lonemeow Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337, Vonthin, GlowingBear LoneMeow (1): sicklucker, boxerfredKelsierSC (0): GlowingBear, LoneMeow, EversinceVonthin (0): Fecalfeastsicklucker (0): GlowingBearboxerfred (0): MoosyDoosyGlowingBear (0): MoosyDoosyNot voted (0): Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends at Monday, Oct 19 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is mandatory! Voting is done here in this thread. PM the hosts if the vote count is not correct. On October 20 2015 21:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I like the bf tunnel. I'd like to volunteer for D2 lynch willingly. On October 20 2015 22:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:not really tbh. I assumed it had to do with killing me. On October 22 2015 05:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 04:00 GlowingBear wrote:On October 22 2015 03:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think it's cute how boxerfred thinks that I care if I'm lynched or that his vote is supposed to pressure. lol. No it's cute that you keep scumreading him even after you voted WITH him last day scum reading boxer? where? I now have a town read on him. Progression is you obviously are mafia reading him before lynch. Change votes but still are questioning him. Vote with him anyway, even as a mafia read. Can't be bothered to even read the thread. Then give him a town read. Right then. Combine that on top of this: Spamming a bunch, gets into a big fight with Kelsier over not fleshing out why he has a read that he had. Didn't seem to care about the lynch. Never ends up answering Kelsier. Changes out spamming for one liners and never does follow up. Drops his main scum read and can't even be bothered to properly read the thread. Ignoring is previous mafia post is just curious. His vote on me is is a meta read. Continuing to do nothing so far. ##Vote: MoosyDoosy
I don't see you saying that my meta read is incorrect.
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On October 22 2015 07:56 The Shining wrote:
Like tbh I'm demotivated as fuck this game, I honestly don't care too much. Maybe it's cuz game is hard as fuck. "Confirmed town" wants to put me on tilt because he thinks I'm scum after lynching town and shooting town. Don't you think maybe your reads are ass and you should reassess? But if you want to continue being bad, be bad.
Oh and besides Farrah and Vonthin, no one else is town reading me so unless you think they're my scumteam hard aligning, or I've been set up to be bussed from D1, then me being scum is kind of nonsensical.
As far as anything else in the thread, I'll reread and do what I feel is useful, when I want to. And before you ask if I have a read on SL, no, I don't, I never do, never have, never will. The guy is an enigma to me and I've said this numerous times before in other games. Unfortunately, because of who he is,I could see that roleswap attempt coming from town.
And yeah ES should've definitely been the Vig shot. But what's done is done.
Wow, apparently my read on you doesn't count.
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I'm considering claiming doc to add to the chaos.
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On October 22 2015 12:15 sicklucker wrote:
vontins most likely scum imo he didnt care about the lynch and I know eversince is town
wait how you know she be hard town tho.
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On October 22 2015 12:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why even bother moose? You've already said that you give 0 shits about this game and already tried to confuse town even more by alluding to yourself being medic.
Because I'm confused and wondering what sicklucker meant by that. :c
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Hi guys, can I be the third lurker coming out of the wood?
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gg~~
was fairly obvious I'm town lmao.
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On November 01 2015 05:00 scott31337 wrote:
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On November 01 2015 05:11 Damdred wrote:
This was a fun game to read there were a few stand out town performances.
clearly me.
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Just some thoughts:
Moosy did terrible by not listening to others and being so self-centered throughout the game. He should also have cared as this was a newbie game and his actions were clearly confusing. (Admittedly, he was right on ALL of the scum team but failed to follow up as usual)
Rels should also calm down with his questioning. There is no reason to attack Farah to the extent that he did. At the point in the thread where he agreed he was being antagonistic, he was literally stabbing anyone that posted thoughts contrary to his own. While this might serve your lynch, it is essentially anti-town and pushes newbies away. The way to go about doing this would be to persuade individuals to join your wagon EVEN if you think they’re scum. In fact, it’s even better if you target a scum with this as they are forced in a weird situation which will most often make them slip up.
GlowingBear should seriously do work tbh he was anti-town.
sicklucker with his weird claim stuff, shouldn’t do that as town because it’s anti-town.
Props to people who solved the game early on like Farah. Hope you join us for another game. Also props to the Shining for solving the game and winning it.
The conclusion I got from this game is that I’ll do my best in the next newbie game and promote helpful conversation and not go into my idgaf style. So join the next game!
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Thoughts for scum:
boxerfred, there was absolutely no need to claim at that point in the thread. Your claim essentially shot your whole team in the foot and kind of brought it down. Also, try to use less ad hom when presenting counter arguments because you never really refuted points but just said the player saying them was bad. If town uses that correctly, you'll come off looking super bad from it. -.- Otherwise I would say good play as your posts presented a townie mindset before your weird claim thing.
Vonthin did really well. I think if you learn how to manage lylo you'll be a threat. Oftentimes scum feel the need to pull the trigger early in lylo which you tried to do and which made you look super scummy. So just calm yourself and poke a bit. Props to Shining for catching your weird views on boxerfred which was very smart on your behalf (one scum, one town), but something you should avoid making a pattern which allowed Shining to catch it.
Eversince. -.- idk I just caught onto your meta by D2. It was really weird to see this totally different side of you. I'll let someone else analyze your play as I didn't really analyze the slot and just looked at the meta behind it. xd
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On November 01 2015 05:29 boxerfred wrote:
Vonthin didn't do as great as you say, MD. I feel like he bussed way too heavily, similar to my very first mafia game on TL where I bussed the shit out of everyone, too.
Considering the fact that he was townread for most of the game and he was able to push scum's agenda, I definitely feel that he did very well, especially for a newbie. Busing is something he should have definitely discussed with his teammates although he did very well in distancing himself from his teammates with his strategy and almost ran off with the game in lylo. He definitely placed himself in a very strange position where he scumread you but never pushed you but pushed others he said were your teammate so he should realize that.
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On November 01 2015 05:40 Eversince wrote:
Woo good game guys. Congrats for the townies. Yeh, my game kind of fell off hard especially after D2.
You were right tho. Your game was totes different from your town game. XD
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On November 01 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
I am so glad nobody took BF seriously. I was not going to put that much effort into making people believe me
don't worry, his claim post was really awks. :/
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Rels probably had the itch to shoot me too. I'm always a big question mark for him.
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