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On October 13 2015 21:12 rsoultin wrote: lol makes sense still hold the same opinion, though xP (also i don't actually randomize coaches cause i feel that newbies should get something out of their coaching...i'm pretty sure that bh does randomize. not 100% on that) you and gb also aren't bad mafia coaches >> I've coached a mafia team once. They were rekt. Also I can't keep track of the Mafia QT... But anyway... I could coach mafia too, yeah. | ||
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On October 14 2015 01:14 marvellosity wrote: btw i'm not really following, do we have a problem with not enough coaches in general? what's the shindig? I think there are enough coaches in general. The discussion is just that coaches are supposed to be willing to coach either alignments or not. I have a 7/9 or 8/10 score as mafia but I was lynches in like 6 or 7, so I was doubting my ability to coach mafia. Anyway. One thing I would like to add is that town coach QT is very straight forward. Scum QT not only involves coaching but also strategy discussion. It's like that teacher who tries to give his classes to a non-stop talking students. Maybe having a separate QT for coaching would help? | ||
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On October 14 2015 00:27 NocturneMage wrote: that said I had zero issues with GB as a mafia coach. we got rekt because of an afk Barakos (couldn't even get his attention via pm) or any trade-off for him getting lynched, my work schedule dicked me over completely and I failed to communicate properly what I was trying to do with n00bking during the day 3 frenzy. wouldn't mind having a go at mafia again, I just know not to sign up for games now if I work too many overnights. Good to know this. Thank you | ||
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On October 14 2015 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I disagree. I think the mafia coach should encourage their team to strategize and when the team does so, then encourage them to think if their strategy is actually good or not. But i agree with marv, if i was mafia in a newbie game i wouldn't even want a scum coach for my team. I also think this, but sometimes questions and answers are lost in a clusterfuck of messages in a scum QT that sometimes the coach can't miss. Having separate QTs (one for the scum team to discuss and one for the scum team to interact with the coach) would help organise things. This doesn't mean the coach must not have access to the scum QT. He could still help the newbies with that, but posting in a separate QT. Anyway, just a suggestion. | ||
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On October 14 2015 02:00 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman has already done this for his newbies - when I was mafia in his games - we had our own coaching QT as individual scummers and then the scum coaches also shared the scum QT with us. So they could talk our individual strategies with us in our individual QT and then team strategy/mislynches/nightkills were discussed in the collective mafia QT. This was also helpful in the event scummers had problems/conflicts/disagreements with each other - whilst not the case in any of my scumteams it could prove helpful in certain situations. And it also reduced the clutter in the mafia QT as well. I think this is good. I had in mind a shared strategy QT and a shared coach QT, but what you said may also work | ||
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On October 14 2015 02:04 rsoultin wrote: I understand and apologize for being unclear but as you can see when I don't find the two roles any different and you do, the source of the miscommunication is obvious. Please don't use this as a reason not to coach. I'm opinionated but if you think i'm wrong that being a coach for both alignments is essentially the same thing you shouldn't let my opinion keep you from coaching Awwwww | ||
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On October 14 2015 04:45 FarahBlackwing wrote: /in I hope I'm ok enough Welcome! | ||
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Slam knows him well. I remember him from Avogadro's Number. Argh. | ||
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BH what do you prefer? | ||
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On October 16 2015 09:47 GlowingBear wrote: Hmm I was thinking about /in instead of coaching. BH what do you prefer? Nvm I will just coach | ||
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On October 17 2015 08:32 scott31337 wrote: Drinking already? Nah, just meth + Show Spoiler + O HAI THIS IS A JOKE I DON'T USE METH, nor math I'm gonna drink in a couple of hours. If I was already playing I would hammer the scum team + Show Spoiler + this is not a joke. | ||
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On October 18 2015 05:13 Vonthin wrote: glhf everyone. Just a reminder this is a game to have fun and not to get stressed out and emotional which I saw happen to some people(myself included) in the past newbie games I've played in. I'm town and ready to hunt some scum. Just a reminder our goal isn't to live, its to hunt scum even if it costs us our lives in the process. How many games have you played before? | ||
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On October 18 2015 05:20 Vonthin wrote: This is like my 3rd I think, First game I got lynched on day 1 as VT, second game I was cop and checked positive 2p eople and won it for us, 3rd I had to drop out of after half a day Alright | ||
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On October 18 2015 05:23 FarahBlackwing wrote: What is a bus? BABY DON'T HURT ME DON'T HURT ME NO MORE It's when a mafia tries to get his scum lynched | ||
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On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote: GB can i bus you again? And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else | ||
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On October 18 2015 05:28 FarahBlackwing wrote: So moosydoosy claimed mafia unprompted and then glowing bear tries to cover foe it. That doesn't make any sense I think both of you are mafia now. It makes no sense logically for that to happen. Why does that makes us both mafia? | ||
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On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote: I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game. mmm...choices choices choices This makes me want to actually lynch you | ||
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Von-guy, what do you think of Moosy here? | ||
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On October 18 2015 06:06 FarahBlackwing wrote: Moos is pretty obvious scum and I don't see any logical point in you trying to joke with him unless you are trying to cover for some form of slip of the tongue. Let me rephrase it: If scum wants to survive, why would he act in such suicidal way? Also, I was joking, I'm not trying to cover anyone. Why do you think this? Why a townie wouldn't joke about it? It's simple: any mafia claim is a joke. No mafia would claim mafia and a town can't possibly claim mafia unless it's jokingly. So his post was not alignmrnt indicative | ||
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On October 18 2015 06:14 boxerfred wrote: Actually no since I rolled VT just like I did in all of my last games ffs and I have moosy and gb spam up the thread although I said pregame that I'm on a limited schedule. actually no, I#m not happy. I'm not spamming, I'm being productive. Moosy is spamming. | ||
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On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote: I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point. He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town. So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that. I'm not saying mafia wouldn't do it. I'm saying any alignment could do it. Which makes groundless any scum read based on this | ||
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On October 18 2015 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote: Really? Read it again. He could have just answered that he was annoyed at the spam but he feels the need to give an excuse of having no time as well as claiming VT all in one. It's very awkward to cram it into one post hm...? Also, while I realize that he normally does have real life obligations, it is still something to note that he feels it is necessary to claim that he won't be posting much. I really can't see clear scum morivation behind that post. I mean, he even said BEFORE the game started that he wouldn't have enough time to play anyway | ||
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On October 18 2015 08:01 KelsierSC wrote: moosy and then one of GB/shining are scum probably. The mafia QT probably looks like "hi dude we both rolled mafia LOLOLOL let's shit up the thread" You suck. | ||
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On October 18 2015 08:38 Vonthin wrote: I don't understand this game lol, nothing like the few games I've played in or obs'd. So much shitposting to provoke people or to just cause chaos, I don't know why towns people would do this And why do you think they're town? | ||
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On October 18 2015 09:59 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm meeting a girl today. Oh wait! She's right here! | ||
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The only thing that is making me wary of her is that she is not trying to see players coming through all perspectives even when I inquired her to do so. Being that aggressive and tunneled already in the beginning of the game isn't townie, and it's very rare on townie first-timers. (2)The Shining's opening is horrendous IMO. It felt forced and tried to hard to give us the idea that he is town. The "someone be obvscum" thing isn't convincing. I don't like it. Also, these posts doesn't add up: + Show Spoiler + On October 18 2015 05:33 The Shining wrote: I think this is your first, or one of, your first games here, right? Unfortunately that's how TL works sometimes. People like to start the game off silly and carefree until a good majority of the players show up and get down and dirty On October 18 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote: K i might want to lynch you. I am the shiny town here, good sir, why do you want to be like me? Because you are scum! If the TL meta UNFORTUNATELY have the joke phase, why participating in it? I mean, if you don't like it, why estimulate it? It doesn't make sense to me. This post is very okay, tho: + Show Spoiler + On October 18 2015 06:59 The Shining wrote: This entrance is weak. Scott doesn't comment on anyone else except a slight townlean on GB(who is asking people about Moosy, the only other player mentioned here). He distances himself from his first thought in saying Moosy he's pushing the fact that he's town a little hard but its "just a thought." Then he picks on an obvious joke vote and conversation between GB and Moosy to slight town GB and suspect Moosy? Why is GB slight townlean? Flesh that out for me. (3)MoosyDoosy is being stupid, which isn't alignment indicative for him. But this post isn't good: + Show Spoiler + On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote: I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game. mmm...choices choices choices (4)KelsierSC can't do this as town: On October 18 2015 08:01 KelsierSC wrote: moosy and then one of GB/shining are scum probably. The mafia QT probably looks like "hi dude we both rolled mafia LOLOLOL let's shit up the thread" Kelsier is a very logical player, saying something this bad as town isn't his fashion. (5)Vonthin, I wasn't liking this guy too much. Especially because he said this: On October 18 2015 08:38 Vonthin wrote: I don't understand this game lol, nothing like the few games I've played in or obs'd. So much shitposting to provoke people or to just cause chaos, I don't know why towns people would do this (i) he opened the game by saying town should not care to survive and go scum hunting, but then (ii) he does nothing in order to scumhunt and (iii) participates in the jokes just to say this. Reading this post in a vacuum, however, conveys town vibes it really seems he is struggling with the terrible start. I'm not sure what to think. That's all I have for now. So, basically, Farah townlean, Kelsier scumlean, others null-ish. I'd like people to talk about things I've brought here. | ||
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On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote: And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see... I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either. Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though. Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well. Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me? I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start. Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list? I really see nothing important in boxerfred's posts for now. It's like he hasn't even been here. And you've got it right, I don't like your entrance but I approve you push on scott. It looked townie. Scott and boxerfred aren't in my list because I had nothing to talk about them. I'm terrible at reading scott anyway, but he reads me very well. Let's see how his reads will progress. | ||
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On October 18 2015 11:39 The Shining wrote: I stopped playing when my gaming laptop blew up and I had to downgrade to a Macbook. Now League is all I play Argh... No, dude, always go for Dota2 | ||
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"Playing a straight forward game" =\= "I'm going to emulate other player's meta" The way you came to the thread is exactly the same as your last scum game. You might be mafia again | ||
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On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote: The joke phase between the three of you was so incredibly unfunny and I would have happily lynched all of you, upon reflection there was probably one mafia trying way too hard. Moosy was just spamming complete nonsense it made me want to give up reading. That was my interpretation of the events up to that point. (A)GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. (b)Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy. His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above. The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB. I want to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy. Dude, Kelsier, I've been trying to play a good game with you but you insist with this. I have a history of doing "stupid stunts" for some people, but I am playing a very straight forward game since the last one. So IF you're town, actually read my list instead of just saying it's classic GB with illogical reads, because they are far from illogical. If you have actually read it you would realise I was commenting ONLY on people that had posted, so point (A) doesn't make sense. Point (B): it's a post where I share my vision of what has been posted so far and I ask players to bounce their reads on it. You see, I've seen a lot of alignment indicstive behaviours - which you fail to realise/discuss just to base a read on a joke phase. And the joke phase wasn't even that long. I started playing the exact moment the game started, and you should see it if you actually read my filter. If you're town, please, play the game. If not, die. ##Vote: KelsierSC | ||
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I'm hating him, so it probably means he is town | ||
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On October 18 2015 12:50 Vonthin wrote: My reads so far: Town: Scott-No shitposts, most of his posts are good questions Farah- Not much to read on but I've like what I've seen so far Glowingbear-Besides some of the banter with Moosy his posts look pro town to me, raising good points and asking good questions especially to myself Shining - See no problems with his filter cept he went with the funny opening for too long Boxer- Not much for me to go on, asked Mooser to stop shitposting was nice but I feel like the limited time thing is an excuse I have seen scum use often. More of a null read but 2 lazy to make a category just for him since he is the only one besides the 4 who haven't posted Scum Mooser- Lots of shitposting and spamming posts without any substance. This post still bothers me, even if you are town and want to spam non stop you still should care about looking town which makes things easier for the rest of us Fecalfeast - His first post was not a good way to start imo, second one doesn't tell me anything earlier though I do have some sympathy for the allergies. Kelseir - His posts were all fluff and negative for the most part Anyways its bed time Vonthin, can you explain me what you found good in Scott's questions that deserved to be a town read? | ||
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On October 18 2015 21:45 LoneMeow wrote: This sounds like you'd be slightly scumreading him, but you listed him as null, why? Because he does this kind of scummy things as town so I don't think I had enough to had a scum read on him | ||
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On October 18 2015 21:44 KelsierSC wrote: insist with what, your list post was trash and pointless What was trash and pointless in it? Please point out the flaws. | ||
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On October 18 2015 21:51 LoneMeow wrote: Can you point out a game for me to check where he's done something similar? I've never played with him so not familiar with his meta at all. It's Crossfire Mafia. He found me suspicious for my opening then went back again just to say I've done that before. It's the same here: a weak suspicion and a quick clearing of it | ||
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On October 18 2015 21:51 KelsierSC wrote: most of the list was null and based off of a "joke phase" you have people with "horrendous openings etc." and that makes them null but I "have to be scum" because I pointed out how terrible the opening of the game was. super unnecessary list that didn't say anything of value. that enough flaws? Having nulls doesn't mean it is flawed. Do you agree/disagree with any of my impressions on that list? You didn't point out how terrible the opening was. You scum read people for it. Strangely enough, you based your scum read on the same joke phase you accuse me of basing my scum reads. | ||
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On October 18 2015 23:19 sicklucker wrote: no and its snowing outside... 42 Celsius in Rio \o/ | ||
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On October 18 2015 23:36 FarahBlackwing wrote: Hi, I'm sitting around reading the game and Idk if I should just post things in a list? I'll try that and see how it goes. I'm pretty convinced at this juncture that lone is town a bit. Or at least worth keeping around for another day. There seems to be some form of curiosity and pushing in the questions that he is asking. And when pointed to the database(great tool btw) it looks remarkably different from the other games where they have rolled scum. I also now think that glowingbear is more than likely town. She just seems to be trying to help the thread in a decent direction and trying to give her reads in a concise fashion. I think she is town. I think my no st controversial read here is shining. I think he's town, just from general knowledge and looking at other games (his last scum game especially) the posts don't seem longish/boring and have a flair and really playful. While it's worth noting it's preliminary I think there's a good shot at him being town. Any questions just ask and I'll try to answer. Yes. What about Moosy? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + I am tired. Gonna catch up tomorrow | ||
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How many time we have left? | ||
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Argh okay I'll try to catch up now | ||
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Skimmed a little bit. I'm not sure what to do with Kelsier's answers, it felt townie to me, but I find weird that he says there is at least one mafia between me, shining and moosy but never really pushes any of us effectively - instead, he goes against scott. But overall, his posts has town vibes in it. Scott came bad to the thread and I agree with the suspicions brought on him. I don't wish to lynch Eversince since I didn't read his posts. I don't think he is one to be lynched today due to activity, either. As my knowledge of this ongoing game is limited, I'd go against lurkers. I hate fecal feast/sicklucker wasting their votes. If one of them is mafia, both wagons are town. That said, I want to vote sicklucker for his lackluster push on LoneMeow. If people don't want to, I'd vote FF. Since I don't think Eversince should be lynched today, I am voting the alternate wagon that did a scummy think. ##unvote ##vote: Scott31337 BUT I PREFER TO LYNCH SICKLUCKER OR FECALFEAST FOR WASTING THEIR VOTES If people is willing to do so, let me know | ||
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On October 20 2015 03:33 FarahBlackwing wrote: What activity by ever since? He has two pages filter and it looks to me that he is trying to play the game. | ||
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And a town not sure if his scum read would be voting one of the main wagobs right now. I'm voting Sicklucker ##Unvote ##Vote: sicklucker | ||
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Moosy doosy is voting with his main scumread, boxerfred Did he flip his read on him? | ||
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On October 20 2015 04:19 Fecalfeast wrote: I just woke up and skimmed the new posts. ##unvote ##vote scott31337 seems fine to me if nobody else sees how scummy vonthin is ##Unvote ##Vote: eversince | ||
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On October 20 2015 04:24 Fecalfeast wrote: So you think I'm scum? Have you mentioned why? I think you could be | ||
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And that FF might be town. Maybe | ||
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But I beg to differ I don't see town Moosy voting with his top scumread. Anyway the senses says he is town | ||
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And it doesn't make sense But they called him mafia My kynch tomorrow will be sickfucker | ||
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Lych sicklucker You csnt go wrong | ||
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My (slightly) hangover senses points out to rels being mafia. That makes a combo of rels and sicklucker And if you consider Moosy doosy voted with his main scum read, I would put him in the team. But sicklucker makes more sense if he is with Eversince. I don't know. I have a tendency to believe that wagons so close to each other always means one is mafia. Which isn't always true, but yeah, I have this tendency. But really, rels insistence in sheeping/RNG looks so forced, I can't possibly believe he is town. | ||
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I'm not, I'm just saying that I don't think your reaction is natural. You started the game in a similar fashion as your last scum game, by having a weak suspicion and a quick revision of that. Then you just act like "O NOES I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS WRONG LEWL I'M GONNA RNG" and it isn't trustable. Yes, you were wrong, but it just looks like you're copying Rayn's reaction in the last game. He did the exact same thing. The difference is that he has been wrong on 3 people, and for now you know you have only been wrong on one, which is pretty normal and not a reason to freak out. TL;DR: it's forced. | ||
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On October 20 2015 23:19 boxerfred wrote: GB: "Rels's post is forced" Rels: "GB's post is forced" Scum having a field day. However Rels keeps himself to reasoning while GB spits out theories. Let's try to ask questions: - how does sicklucker/Eversince make sense? Why is that? I can't replicate that. - what exactly makes sicklucker scum if Rels is scum? Your ideas revolve around sicklucker who is (to me) the most unreadable guy in this game. Sicklucker scumreading lone meow and wasting his vote on him without trying to convince people to vote with him was scummy. He coming back to the thread and voting scott instead of Eversince may imply he was saving his scum partner by hammering town scott. Or he simply saw me criticising him for wasting his vote and voted one of the main wagons to look good. My point on sicklucker is: if he really thought lone meow was mafia to the point of keeping his vote on him until the very end, he should've be trying to convince people to vote lone meow. If his scum read on lone meow wasn't that strong, he should've used his time to evaluate the main wagons instead of not caring for the lynch the major part of the day. | ||
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I think rels is scum for his play. I think sicklucker is scum for his play. That's all. | ||
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On October 21 2015 05:08 sicklucker wrote: idk i saw alot of towns then he comes out with a random scum read as me. just as the guy who had me as a top town read me died. LIKE I NEVER KILL KSC AS TOWN HERE. 1. his town game does not impress me 2. Im like pretty sure I was his top town if not i was his top 3 Why are you saying this, it's obvious you are the vigilante -.- | ||
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##Vote: Rels Why did you shoot LM? | ||
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On October 21 2015 05:14 sicklucker wrote: Hes confirmed town tho... Mafia would have killed me tonight I would have flipped vt then you could have claimed after that and we would have a confirmed town for an extra day and the other pr would be more safe If you're really VT here I can't say how stupid this was SL. I can't. And you're listening this from a guy who is known for doing stupid things. (Unless it is Himalayas. Himalayas was incredible play but people don't have the brains to understand how brilliant it was) | ||
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On October 21 2015 05:16 Rels wrote: Are you fucking voting an un CC vig in a setup where we know there is only one vig / cop. I'm sure you'll find what you need in some post I made not long ago. And that I quoted even less long ago. Oooooops I was going to vote SL AND question you. Instead I've put you in the vote LOLOLOLOL ##Unvote ##Vote: sicklucker | ||
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On October 21 2015 05:18 Rels wrote: Well good night. Anyone not voting SL when I wake up is his teammate in my mind. GB, do what you need. Ignore the guy and start talking about his teammates please. No, no. Actually When analysing sicklucker, FORGET THE CLAIM. If he is mafia, this is a suicidal move. Which would make him town after all. However, this may be exactly what sicklucker was after. In other words, deciding if sicklucker is town or Mafia based on the claim will have you basing your reasoning in WIFOM. | ||
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On October 21 2015 05:20 Rels wrote: That's not true. Your post is: If you wanted to vote SL, your post would be: So the question is not addressed on me anymore. You are scum. Rels, I was with your name in my mind because I was going to direct you a question. I wrote yours instead of sickluckers and that's all. ADHD. Are you really calling me scum for this? | ||
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On October 21 2015 05:22 sicklucker wrote: to the newbs claiming a dead role (at first as a joke) and then as a why the hell not ill draw the nk. Theres no way I do this as mafia theres no strategic advantage to draw out the veg cc. If i claimed cop sure but the veg is a dead role. RELS HOW DO YOU THINK IM MAFIA HERE. i told you not to make an even better claim last game because it put you and moosy in a deadlock where one of you is always scum. I would never do this as scum and you know it your blowing my mind right now please dont leave im going to convince your moron ass That's the thing, SL It will automatically put you in a deadlock. In this case, you are going to die because you did what you did. It's what I said, really. You could really be town role swapping, or you could be mafia trying to look you're town role swapping. Which makes your claim a shit argument to decide if I should vote you or not. | ||
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On October 21 2015 05:28 boxerfred wrote: thing is, why would scum fakeclaim a vig if the vig already shot? it just doesn't make sense to me. you'd exchange a scum member vs. a named town. not sure if I'm willing to jump on sicklucker here especially since others (namely shining and fecalfeast) managed to stay under everyone's radar. Exactly. That's why I'm telling everyone to not consider SL's claim when analysing if he is scun or not. He could've done it regardless of alignment | ||
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On October 21 2015 05:28 sicklucker wrote: which i instantly rescinded * It doesn't matter, you could've done it as any alignment. I'm voting you because of your lackluster push on lone meow and because drunk bear said so. He can't be wrong. | ||
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On October 21 2015 05:33 boxerfred wrote: how about we drop the rels/sl stuff because I start thinking both are town and either follow the first scumreads (mainly eversince) or look into people that dropped kinda under the radar (ff/shining/vonthin)? Or, we set up some tinfoil theory about farah? though I still think we can do an associative read between farah/eversince since she made that D1 case on him which was strong. SL is still a scum read of mine. So no | ||
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On October 21 2015 05:33 boxerfred wrote: how about we drop the rels/sl stuff because I start thinking both are town and either follow the first scumreads (mainly eversince) or look into people that dropped kinda under the radar (ff/shining/vonthin)? Or, we set up some tinfoil theory about farah? though I still think we can do an associative read between farah/eversince since she made that D1 case on him which was strong. What????? | ||
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On October 21 2015 05:41 boxerfred wrote: read the following sentence. Eversince flip as scum will confirm farah as town. Everything else can be tinfoilhatted into oblivion. But why do you suggest we tinfoil things???? I mean, it doesn't make sense | ||
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On October 19 2015 20:32 KelsierSC wrote: well there wasn't that much to catch up on really so I'm going to post where i'm at. starting with the most important part, scum reads Moosy - His spammy opening was no good and the feeling I got from the entire opening exchange was that mafia was in there. I'm not going to repeat the whole line of questioning about vonthing but it showed he was just spamming and asking questions for the sake of it with no real care for the answer, he hasn't returned to do anything since that point. I'm still waiting on a few things but he is scum right now scott31337 This is two fold really, I think Rels caught him out first with how he interacted with moosy , how he pretended he knew it was a joke. The second part is on his return he didn't actually clarify that point and talked about something else and then disappeared, once again i'm waiting on his return but it looks like lack of interest/reading. eversince I mean...perhaps I am biased in this case. His "catch up" entrance to the thread was with a point about shinings opening post. Then he got into ff about not explaining reads. After that he moves onto me, calls me the lync says i'm mucking up the thread and then after deciding i'm scum he then produces the case on me, I think I provided a decent refutation to that case and after that he just disappeared. To me it seemed his entrance was picking on some random people and then jumping on the leading lynch target but it showed he hadn't really read the thread properly. Furthermore his case felt like he called me scum then read my filter and had to find things to call me scummy. I'd lynch either of these 3 right now. In the next tier of players who I don't like/scum lean vonthin - started off as a townlean for me but he has really fallen off, hasn't posted anything since his list pos It seems to be based mostly on the start of the game and who shit posted the most , with things moving on he really needs to do something. lonemeow - I agree with what boxerfred said really and his play has just been nothing so far I have some people who I think are town but not too many, you guys are sort of lazy Rels I like the points on scott, I think he's been active and sensible so far. In general I like the way Rels posts but yeh i'm calling him town farah newbie willing to engage and give thoughts. probably town SL calling him town and moving on then a few people who are like town leaning but it's not really based on too much GB - like I got mad at him but I seem to do that all the time and it's best to step back a bit. Lot of people think he's sort of town and he was trying to be relatively serious. I'm waiting to see what he does as we near deadline. FF - I liked his attitude coming in but he hasn't posted that much BF - liked some of his posts, probably should post more Shining - Can't really see any malicious agenda behind his questioning. That's what i'm thinking, if I missed you off then you are probably scum. Kelsier last list post. Reminding that he brought strong suspicions on Eversince. Farah can you explain to me what on Eversince made you think he is town? | ||
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It would also make more clear for further VCA when the wagons got the same numbers of voters. If Eversince is scum then mafia surely needed to hammer scott. And to be fair the fact that you took the effort probably means you're town. | ||
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On October 21 2015 18:51 Rels wrote: How sure are you of that fact ? I checked FF's meta, and 3 mafia games out of 4 he had a gigantic filter with a lot of trash in it. So it's pretty different from this game obviously. I've played games with him before and for what I remember he is pretty effortless, especially if he isn't on the chopping block. The fact that he built a case on me when nothing was happening makes him very townie to my eyes. I must say I'm having a fairly bad time at reading the newbies. I won't change my vote today, my best bet on scum is on SL considering his gameplay only. Also the fact that one confirmed town (two, because I'm confirmed town to me) and no other people jumped on his wagon makes it really suspicious. I'd expect mafia to push his wagon. | ||
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On October 21 2015 13:09 FarahBlackwing wrote: So von and sicklucker are super dumb telling I think is the phase. Which is sorta good because I want to eliminate von from the pool now. Sorry, is this your first mafia game? | ||
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On October 22 2015 00:16 FarahBlackwing wrote: Already have given my reasoning on town reading shining. And yes this is my first mafia game. When did you get to learn this term "dumb tell"? | ||
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On October 22 2015 00:24 FarahBlackwing wrote: After my initial question(about busses) I looked up terms/items to have a better understanding of some things so I didn't clutter the thread and asked questions. That's where I got the terms dumb tells/omgus and a few others. Can you link me to the place you found it? | ||
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On October 22 2015 00:57 FarahBlackwing wrote: I already did GlowingBear Fair enough | ||
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On October 22 2015 01:34 Rels wrote: RIGHT ? LOLOLOLOLOL | ||
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On October 22 2015 01:49 MoosyDoosy wrote: I care about ~30% for this game up from the small 8% or so that I had. I also had just ignored Ever's big posts until I gave a go through her filter. Let me help you then ##Unvote ##Vote: moosydoosy | ||
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On October 22 2015 03:49 Eversince wrote: Glowing when I couldn't wrap my head around the Sick claim yesterday I was giving mafia vibes to you. Rels reiterates basically what I was pondering to the note why not pick at him? It's not about WHAT you said, it is about the initial disinterest you had on the claim. I mean, there was a claim AND a counter claim but instead of dropping any discussion you were having to give thoughts about it, you kept pushing Boxerfred. I would expect a townie to immediately react to the claims. Unless you know both their alignmebts, so it is disinteresting | ||
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On October 22 2015 03:58 MoosyDoosy wrote: I think it's cute how boxerfred thinks that I care if I'm lynched or that his vote is supposed to pressure. lol. No it's cute that you keep scumreading him even after you voted WITH him last day | ||
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On October 22 2015 03:59 Eversince wrote: You found that mafia telling but Rels just posted where I ended up last night in his post and it's ok? Rels counter claimed and voted sicklucker, dude. He immediately reacted to it | ||
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Something just crossed my mind. Game is pretty solvable. But I can't share it with thread until day3 | ||
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Are you veteran or not? You don't risk being shot anytime soon and you're wasting this day with useless discussion. Instead you can turn into confirmed town and survive until LYLO if you're the veteran. Mafia WILL have to waste a shot on you anyway. | ||
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On October 22 2015 09:23 sicklucker wrote: explain this or i might tunnel you because its the only remotely townie thing I can find on you There is a guy who thought you could be the veteran trying to take a shot. If you're actually the veteran, it could be TMI since mafia team knows the setup. Also, that thing that I said about the veteran surviving for longer times. I just thought I should talk about this later but I don't care. There is a confirned townie talking about you and a confirmed townie to me (myself) wasting his time trying to figure you out. You're 100% being roleblocked and killed if you're he veteran. You're role is useless now unless for confirming yourself. So, again: are you the veteran? | ||
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On October 22 2015 09:30 Fecalfeast wrote: Like what if we have doctor? Telling people to claim vet is so bad wtf do you know that there's a vet gb? IF he is the veteran, he should claim now. Dude if he is the veteran there is no doctor, we save discussion now. He CAN'T be any other role because there is no way he try to take a bullet as another power role | ||
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On October 22 2015 09:32 Fecalfeast wrote: fuck that's such a dumb play GB, if we do have a vet and you force them to claim, we lose any wifom power we have over scum, if we have a doctor, scum knows it and would love to claim vet so doctor will CC I'M NOT ASKING SL TO FAKE CLAIM??? AND I'M NOT ASKING COUNTER CLAIMS??? JESUS CHRIST | ||
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On October 22 2015 09:36 sicklucker wrote: Gb if your the cop or the vet your not making it obvious to mafia at all Rels claimed he shot lonemeow dude Just answer this: are you the veteran or not? | ||
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On October 22 2015 09:49 The Shining wrote: SL why can't GB be scum with ES? He voted Scott, said he did not want to and was not interested in lynching ES, unvotes, votes SL, tells Farrah he doesn't have time to read her case on ES, tells LM he's town and to vote SL(TMI), then votes ES which he refused to do just to not vote with his scumread in FF? When FF asked him to give him reasons, he said he thinks he could be scum. Then he's gone until he comes back drunk in night phase. Looks hella scummy to me. He waited until Scott was in the lead to put his vote on ES. If you think sicklucker is town, you're saying I risked having my partner killed because lonemeow and SL weren't voting scott and could put Eversince in majority. | ||
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On October 22 2015 10:11 The Shining wrote: Well its a good thing he effortlessly decided you're townie now and missed my post scumming him for EoD. Inb4 I get OMGUSd by GB Nah I'm killing Moosy 100% today And I think I've addressed to your post? | ||
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FF you said sicklucker was town ever since he claimed. You didn't even admitted a discussion on that Why are you voting him? | ||
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On October 22 2015 23:17 Rels wrote: GB am I tunneling or is SL really similar to his mafia game and really different from his town game ? You could be right on SL. The thing is that he presented some townie posts in his filter that is giving me pause. There are better people to look after today IMO. If you want to see if you're TUNNELED, forget the claim and try to read SL coming from a townie perspective. See if it makes sense. To be fair, I am voting Moosy doosy but FF looks terrible. He called SL town ALL DAY. Made a case on ME. Never votes me. Agrees with SL that I can be coming from town angle (not without hesitation) Then agrees with a team where sicklucker and Moosy are mafia (he is town reading SL) Moosy is the main wagon He votes SL. WHAAAAAT? | ||
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On October 22 2015 23:39 Rels wrote: It does. Except at EOD1. And I know SL is super strong at making seems like he's coming from a town perspective, I've played with him. At EOD1, he was playing his scum game, as demonstrated above. I agree with you, Rels. And I find hard that drunk bear is wrong. But look at Moosy doosy and FF. Especially what I just said. Don't you think they have scummier traits? I mean, your strong scum read on him started with the counter claim. Before that, I presume you had a weaker read | ||
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On October 22 2015 23:45 Rels wrote: The thing is, it's not a meta case to begin with. How he played EOD1 was scummy. Thinking the two main wagons were not likely to be mafia, having a scumread; but not pushing it. The townie way to play that wuold be to defend your townreads and push your scumread. It only starts to be meta after that, because he was in kinda the same situation the last two games he played: - as mafia he did the same thing - as town he did not do the same thing; in fact, he reacted the town way described above Did he never do that as town? I'm not sure. I've done that as town once. Ok I will read your case thoroughlly and comment point by point. What do you think of what I said about FF? | ||
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On October 23 2015 00:14 Rels wrote: What do you think of the meta stuff above ? I think it's weak. I usually don't like meta. Most of the meta cases I've seen in these forums were wrong. If FF is self aware of that meta, he can fake it anytime. I will never accept a meta over a clearly scummy post. I simply don't see a townie saying "SL is town, Occam's razor" then when you post a team with him he says "ok good team" and instead voting a suspicious guy that is the main wagon AND part of the team he said it was good (Moosy), he votes his town read (SL). | ||
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+ HtS said FF usually lacks direction and it is clearly what he is doing here | ||
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On October 23 2015 00:39 Rels wrote: GB can you check FF's read of BF progression ? Why did he drop it like that ? Did BF post something between the scumread and the drop ? If you don't have time I'll do it tonight. I'm phone posting now. I may have time later. Anyway I don't remember his interactions with boxerfred... | ||
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On October 23 2015 02:16 Rels wrote: Something is wrong with this game. Yes. Too many townies not trying. | ||
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On October 23 2015 02:19 Rels wrote: This time I checked the fucking replacement thread at least. It was when Moosy first disappeared. I thought he was going to be replaced. | ||
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Oh, again. I think it's not that important, tho. Like, I'm really comfortable with lynching Moosy. He voted with his main scumread on day1, he's been useless, he was also Kelsier's scum read and Kelsier is dead. I have plenty of reasons to lynch him today. Atrocious play like that can't be forgiven. | ||
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Let's bounce some ideas. Who are you townreading at the moment or at least you have seen town traits? | ||
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On October 23 2015 03:00 Rels wrote: No. Townies do not forget their scumreads. He was one of your two scumreads. He answered directly to you, saying he would answer your question later and didn't. Find me a town game where you forgot about a scumread please. Quotes would be appreciated. I 100% agree with this. | ||
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And that's what you did here. Twice. Against me and against boxerfred. You made "cases" against both d us, then proceeded to vote other people. Especially today, you voted SL, who you had a town read. You don't follow your own reads dude. | ||
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It's not about being aware of being wrong, FF. Being aware of being wrong is to see new information in thread and react to it. It isn't forgetting people. Even if you are aware you could be wrong, if you're town you have to take a stance on where you stand. If you have a meta case on someone being town, you can't instantly be ok with this person in a scum team. | ||
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On October 23 2015 03:23 Fecalfeast wrote: Like this game isn't about who has the best reads, this game is about winning. People who have obviously put more effort into this game deserve to have their shit sheeped if it sounds good. I'm not going to vote my scumread if nobody else will. But you have to show us you have being convinced by something reasonable. Because we need to see your thought process behind it. What convinced you Vonthin could be mafia? | ||
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On October 23 2015 03:26 Eversince wrote: Oh the bells! I like you Glowing. I said this same thing last night. I know. I'm adorable | ||
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Why does that UNFLIPPED ASSOCIATION is so strong to make you disregard the meta you trusted? What in that team makes you think "sure! That's it!"? | ||
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On October 23 2015 03:31 boxerfred wrote: I'm here. Almost caught up. Sorry I'm late, still moving in with my girlfriend, lots of work over the day. Actually I don't think Moosy should be the lynch here although I voted him. The reason is that in my previous game with him where he was scum, once he was under pressure, he totally exploded. He exploded so much that up until this point, I hold him for a spammy, rather bad player. I cannot read sicklucker at all, so he's not my top lynch. But I strongly recommend lynching him before a possible LYLO situation. I think that the claim he did is not really alignment indicative but if I was to interpret something into it, I'd have to say that for scum, this would be a really bad move. I don't think sicklucker is a guy who does such bad moves. So I'd actually town lean him if you guys want to nail me on that. Thing is that MoosyDoosy even says he wants to get lynched so it's really a cheap mislynch target for scum. That would mean that this.. ..contains at least one, if not two, or even three scum members. If I consider that I think Rels is town, and I am town, I have GB/FF/VT/ES in those votes. Now look at this: I liked Vonthin's answers to my questions, I already said this. That brings me down to GB/FF/ES. So let's get the hammer rolling. Since Fecalfeast tends to be active whenever under pressure and tends to do shit when disregarded, I strongly suggest to lynch him. It really feels like he's lurking a lot, posting only when necessary. And that is scum behaviour and nothing else. ##unvote ##vote FecalFeast Wow this is shit. | ||
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On October 23 2015 03:42 Rels wrote: I want to vote Shining. Deja vu? Keep on Moosy. Really. | ||
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Who are you going to vote now? | ||
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On October 23 2015 03:52 Rels wrote: Unless he's getting replaced. It's him or Fara Failure to vote usually means you get modkilled. Wait for it And kill Moosy anyway. He is a nuisance. | ||
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On October 23 2015 03:53 sicklucker wrote: there probably wont be a replacement its more likely a mod kill. so who do you think it is I dont want to lynch that person Who will you vote for? | ||
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Because of how the voting patterns were done today, | ||
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On October 23 2015 04:15 Fecalfeast wrote: Well, unless you think shenanigans are imminent, give us a sample of what's to come. No. I will wait for the flip then I'll explain | ||
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On October 23 2015 04:27 boxerfred wrote: gnahhhhh this is shit I say "lets lynch moosy" then I say "ok he might not be scum but lets lynch him because he's spammy" he stops being spammy, completely plays against his scum meta, I say "dont lynch the guy" and you lynch the guy. This is way too fucking easy to not be a town wagon there's literally no scum member that is not fine with that lynch. guys. seriously. There isn't a thing called "meta" for a guy that rolled scum only once | ||
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On October 23 2015 04:38 Rels wrote: So Moosy asked for a replacement. I smell shenanigans? | ||
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On October 23 2015 05:01 Rels wrote: why did he fucking post that. It's the reason everybody stayed on him The "play to win" isn't a rule anymore, I suppose | ||
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On October 23 2015 05:02 Rels wrote: Vonthin is scum then. At least that's one people. Why? | ||
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On October 23 2015 05:04 Rels wrote: Vonthin / FF / ?? Boxerfred. TMI on Moosy being town but not really trying to shift the lynch. | ||
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On October 23 2015 05:22 sicklucker wrote: ya when you didnt defend yourself when people are trying to lynch you so obv. (it was obv but you have no right to say that) If it was so obvious why not push someone else??? | ||
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No, you didn't! You wanted to create a second wagon. But you had NO SCUM you pushed. Not fucking one. Like, fucking TRY TO CONVINCE PEOPLE INTO VOTING SOMEONE ELSE, like Rels did. | ||
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On October 23 2015 09:41 sicklucker wrote: i said i did but it was too late. go read I looked to see if there was any interest I got only like 1 person You didn't TRY man. If the guy was obvious town to you, you scream your lungs out. Not like that, SL. | ||
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On October 23 2015 09:46 sicklucker wrote: heres me asking people to switch my replie to farah wanting to keep her vote heres me asking if we have enough votes HERES YOU RESISTING ME your like acualy asking me not to start shennanies here how can you say i didnt try so stfu gb your the worst sometimes man... Yes, I resisted you! And yes, I'm not saying you didn't post against his lynch, but YOU VOTED HIM ANYWAYS instead of screaming your lungs out man. Like, if I think a mislynch is occuring I will shit the whole thread to keep the guy from being lynched. And here you were "hey, I'm back and forth" or "oh vote with me! No? ok :/" | ||
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On October 23 2015 09:56 sicklucker wrote: anyway I just spent over 1 hour rereading the entire thread and giving my thoughts and all you can do is nitpick about if i did or did not try hard enough to change a lynch that was going to happen anyway. fucking good shit bro. good shit to comment on very town productive how do you feel about my reads? I don't know, I haven't read them. This game is giving me headaches. | ||
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On October 23 2015 10:17 sicklucker wrote: well im not you im a sensible human being who has alot of games under his belt now. maybe I did that shit in my first few games I don't care, Batman has a lot of weapons in his belt and they all suck | ||
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I want to kill everyone in this game and I won't re read it. I won't be of any use for town. | ||
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Voting me would be the path of least resistance. Instead she is trying to push Vonthin and this push seems okay. I also think boxerfred might be town for his effort into having me lynched. I really believe FF should be the lynch today. What do you think? | ||
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On October 25 2015 03:42 Fecalfeast wrote: GB, do you have reasoning for your read on me that is any more developed than before? Have you read the thread? Why did you decide to play after deciding not to play more than once? I hate farah getting all buttmad over a game of mafia but she is new and it does happen. I can't stand reading the thread, but that doesn't mean I won't try to play. I didn't develop my read on you further. It's just that you seem to comfortable with the lynch now, plus that thing where you scum read me but never stick to it. You made cases but sheeped people, mostly. And I find it scummy | ||
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On October 25 2015 04:17 Fecalfeast wrote: Yeah my vote is in a good place It's not. It's on a townie. | ||
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On October 25 2015 09:02 Rels wrote: Ok literally every person except me is under suspicion, and the only reason I'm not with how bad my reads were this game is because I'm a role. But there are also a lot of people that cannot be scum together. SO. You. Yes you, reading this right now. If you are vet / doc, claim in your next post. Them we evaluate from there. Claiming is unnecessary. Don't listen to this guy. Rels, doctor is very powerful with you alive here. They are always shooting outside you. If the doctor is in imminent lynch, he will claim. If not, it's unnecessary. | ||
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On October 25 2015 09:26 Rels wrote: OK. Pretty sure Fara is scum though. Well, I hope people respond to that while I sleep. ##Unvote ##Vote GlowingBear Good night folks (= I'm not mafia Nor is Farah. | ||
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On October 25 2015 10:52 Fecalfeast wrote: Who IS mafia GB? You haven't even been reading Yes I had you on the scum team. Vonthin may be mafia. Deunk bear can't be wrong twice | ||
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On October 25 2015 16:23 Fecalfeast wrote: ##unvote ##vote glowingbear FF I'm not mafia. I will tell you a world where I'm mafia. If I'm mafia here I'm being bussed 100% of the times so my buddies can get towncred for later days. It's triple MYLO after all. You also have to believe I'm telling you guys I'm not reading the game not because I'm being sincere, but because I WANT to be scum read. That's the only world where I'm mafia. And to be honest, considering the two confirmed townies are voting me, it is obviously not the case | ||
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On October 26 2015 01:33 FarahBlackwing wrote: The funny thing is I'm not jumping on boxer because it's the wrong play lol. His claim is obviously false but it is what it is. And I'm probably to harsh on rels, which I apologize for. But you do have a tunnel problem that the slightest thing make you initiate and ignores everything else. Sorry, explain this? Why do you think it's false and why not voting him if it is? | ||
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I had a lot of scenarios in mind, but they are all looking like wifom. I think that the problem with boxerfred's claim is that if he thinks FF is obvious mafia he is always going o reevaluate his read on me. | ||
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On October 26 2015 01:55 Vonthin wrote: There is no reason for the doctor to counter role claim in this situation. If you really are the doctor and we end up lynching FF then scum just kill you at night and they will most likely win after that. FF is town even without the claim, he has been playing the game and making good reads. You have been scumming it up for the whole game. Also ES you have been just counter tunneling Farah the whole game so I don't know how you can say that lol Farahs point is correct about lynching the RB but I think the chances are just as good for GB to be the RB as ES Dude if we MISLYNCH today the game is over | ||
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##Vote: boxerfred We lynch obvious scum today 100% of the times. I'm sorry Farah, but there is the possibility that BF was just going to the easy win (cc'ing) instead of trying to protect the roleblocker | ||
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On October 26 2015 02:05 boxerfred wrote: that vote confirms you as scum but why would you care since with my death, the game is lost for town. ggs No it doesn't confirm me as nothing. The problem isn't your counter claim per se, but the scenarios you bring with it. Instead of just pushing FF, you make a team where I'm still scum. And I've been almost the only one scum reading FF the entire game. | ||
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On October 26 2015 02:08 FarahBlackwing wrote: He never reevaluated anything about you gb. Well he's scum but I'll keep my vote here idc about "cred" I'm on the right lynch. Listen. In my mind, the one very tired of this game, the scum team is Vonthin, Shining and Boxerfred. I have yet to believe Eversince is mafia. If he is mafia, then take out The Shining. I understand what you told me about Eversince being the Roleblocker and boxerfred sacrificing himself to protect him. But think of it this way: if you're madia and you have 3 of you alive, wouldn't you risk fake counter claiming so you can get an easy win? In this scenario, there is no "protection". Just a guy trying to win. If there is this possibility here, then the grounds to read Eversince as the roleblocker falls apart, don't you think? | ||
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On October 26 2015 02:15 boxerfred wrote: So if that scenario only brings up scenarios where I'm scum, why do it in the first place when I could just sit back? Either I am doing a dumb af scum move or FF has done a strong af scum move. You move isn't dumb. It's just not well done. If you claimed and went against FF, that would be ok. But you came with all these theories and didn't even reevaluate your reads with the confirmed scum. You've ADAPTED your reads to him. Which is different. Who did you protect night 1? | ||
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On October 26 2015 02:19 boxerfred wrote: Also youre a yolo lurker this game so why wouldnt you Not be capable to scumread ff? Also if you scumread him all game, why stop now Oo. I can be wrong on you ffs. Because my top townies are scum reading you and you claim post was full of bs IMO | ||
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On October 26 2015 03:14 boxerfred wrote: Youre whole point is made up. I chose to protect you night One because i liked your case on es at that time. Also youre now doing the same thing you just said Rels would be doing. Rels, vote ff or be the worst confirmed town ever. Please reevaluate him at least. Cool, but, why are you not voting FF? | ||
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On October 26 2015 03:17 FarahBlackwing wrote: Boxer just said I was town. That's good at least. He said you were town on day1. | ||
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If the setup is veteran and vigi, why does mafia shoot SL instead of Rels? | ||
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On October 24 2015 05:12 Fecalfeast wrote: So we sheep sl's reads then? Weird, rels, seems you're wrong. Or we have a medic. I'm trying to imagine a world where the real vigi hasn't CC'd rels and it's just not possible. ##Unvote ##Vote: Fecalfeast | ||
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On October 26 2015 04:24 Vonthin wrote: SLs main scum reads were myself and Farah who are both town. Killing SL will give the scum more ammo to lynch us today so they can win the game. No. Killing SL is a medic dodge. + if FF was the real veteran he would never consider a medic dodge. | ||
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On October 26 2015 04:31 Fecalfeast wrote: Or I'm trying not to TELL MAFIA that I'm the vet lol Sure! Like when you claimed vet!!!! Shhhhh! Don't let them know! | ||
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1) If the setup is known by the mafia and mafia knows there is a veteran, SL is never shot. SL is clearly a medic dodge. 2) If FF is the veteran he would (A) not consider SL was a medic dodge and (B) know that SL's reads aren't sheepable because mafia could be trying to WIFOM town. | ||
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On October 26 2015 04:38 FarahBlackwing wrote: No your wrong gb. ##unvote ##Vote boxerfred No, I'm 100% right. Why would be FF so worried about mafia not knowing his role to the point of saying "duh it was a medic dodge" and confuse town? AT DAY? If he was the veteran he would never been considering it even if it was just for hiding. And hiding is a lie since he claimed today. It makes no sense. | ||
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On October 26 2015 04:42 FarahBlackwing wrote: I 100% believe fecal feast over boxer. Nothing makes sense from boxer it does from ff. My god, Farah. It makes a lot of sense! If there is a veteran, why isn't Rels dead? Instead there was a clear medic dodge!!!!!! Tell me why FF would ever consider a medic dodge if he is the veteran???? | ||
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On October 26 2015 04:44 Vonthin wrote: Yeah I am fine with ES tomorrow There won't be tomorrow and you know it. GUYS PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE THE VETERAN IS NEVER CONSIDERING A MEDIC DODGE FOR GOD'S SAKE! IF HE WAS THE VETERAN WHY DIDN'T HE GOT SUSPICIOUS OF SL? AT LEAST A LITTLE SUSPICIOUS? IF THERE IS A VETERAN, WHY IS THERE A MEDIC DODGE? PLEASE THINK!!!! | ||
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If you think Vonthin is mafia And I'm here screaming that FF is mafia for things that really makes sense and instead of jumping on FF (if you think he is town), he confronts me It should be clear to you that Vonthin not wanting to grab this opportunity to lynch FF confirm FF as mafia. Jesus | ||
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On October 26 2015 04:47 FarahBlackwing wrote: Then vote ever gb and force the scum team to kill th real one or give us a lynch No because I think the scum team is FF/Vonthin/Shining And we always kill one of FF or boxerfred today because one of them is always mafia. | ||
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Eversince is town and so is boxerfred. FF is mafia. | ||
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On October 26 2015 04:51 The Shining wrote: I'm here, I'm just clueless and the last 10 pages are a shitshow Listen FF claimed veteran But later he considered SL to be a medic dodge If he is the veteran he is never considering this. Also, SL is clearly a medic dodge or Rels would be dead since mafia knows the setup. Rels isn't dead. There is a doctor in the game. SL also hinted maybe being veteran and FF never was suspicious of him. FF's claim is fake | ||
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On October 26 2015 04:53 Fecalfeast wrote: I really wonder what you're going to do after this flip I will be saying Gg | ||
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I will consolidate because it's mylo But it's dead obvious FF is mafia ##unvote ##vote: boxerfred | ||
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On October 26 2015 05:05 Fecalfeast wrote: GB you gonna sulk in your qt or pretend to be shocked? I'm not mafia | ||
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On October 21 2015 19:52 boxerfred wrote: I like Vonthin's response to my questions, I dislike that he scumreads me. He's not the lynch for today though imho. Let me bring his scum read on me up: I think you refer to one big, seemingly confusing post only and this is a post that is built up quite logically: I caught up, and while I was catching up, I quoted posts that I deemed interesting. I even said that on top of that post. Go have a re-read of that post. Regarding my Moosy read: I contradicted myself in that read. I was wrong, that's about it. That's why I later said that it was bullshit. I also refrained from my Moosy scumread although it really bothers me that he's not around. So no, I have not continued pushing Moosy, you're misrepresenting the facts. However I still do not have a townread Moosy, although I liked his posts N1 a bit. Third, regarding the "I just skimmed" case - it was simply honest, sorry if that makes me look bad. Read into that whatever you want, I don't care. ____________ I'm wondering why Farah pushes a MD lynch since her case on ES was/is good. Why the preference now that MD apparently isn't here? Also why that townread on Shining? I don't get the "emotional" argument at all, one can fake his/her meta. Elaborate please. Then again, I wonder why Farah removes GB from her "remaining scum" list. I think your reads of shining and GB are really weak. I also dislike that Fecalfeast comes into the thread once he's under pressure. Why not do this before? Not interested to solve the game? If so, why not? I strongly think there's scum in between GB and FF, maybe MD but I don't have a solid case on that. I guess MD will break my neck the longer I survive in that game because I cannot tell if he's town or scum but I still have that scum feeling. I had the same fucking feeling in the game we played when he was scum and talked everyone into oblivion, however I was mislynched before being able to get him lynched. I actually have a good grasp on that game, SL and MD are the only ones I don't have at least a reasoned opinion on. That, among with my standing as a townread person, will probably get me shot soon. Well, some casualties cannot be prevented. Fecal as of now I don't have the time to really look at the games you mentioned towards me. Hold me at it, I'll try to do so this evening. The lynch should happen in between FF/GB/ES/Shining. I think those guys have the highest chance to flip scum. Second tier lynches are MD/SL(though GB scumreads him which actually makes me rethink that)/VonThin. Don't lynch: Farah. Never lynch: Rels, boxerfred. Registering this post for further analysis | ||
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On October 23 2015 03:44 boxerfred wrote: You keep misrepresenting that post. Here, let me quote it for you and bold it: + Show Spoiler + On October 20 2015 05:57 boxerfred wrote: As I'm catching up, I'll write down my notes on what I think about certain posts. That's bullshit. Remember why I voted you in the first place, wanted to play the game you played with Kelsier. I didn't even make a "case". Gonna bring that up because I don't want to let this stand. My read on you happened partially on a false prerequisite. Note that while I think you're probably scum, it's not enough to cast my vote on you. I might be bad at persuading people especially since english isn't my first language but I'm able to think. Also it's fun to get this comment from a guy who basically spams all the time and makes the thread hard to read, thanks. Gonna repeat it, I didn't case you, stop making up reasons to push me. ____ I like the case on Eversince a lot. I'm fine with ES/scott and of course Moosy. However I'll be in for a Moosy lynch pretty much anytime. Scott would be the lurker scum but I think it's important to note that he's rather inactive when he's town while there's a really solid case on ES. Decisions, decisions. ____ What a huge fucking awesome useless dumb post. I want to vote you for this. And for your general posting style. How do you read Shining as town? Why is that? I'd scumlean him. Also, how do you understand my reasong if even I say that the reasoning of MD is bullshit? How can you townread scott based that his posts were absurd (as Rels and me pointed out)? Scumlean for you. Having read this, yes. Scott's return is bullshit. However if he'd be scum and if he'd have read the thread before, why wouldn't he just go down the "I'm a low volume poster as town" road? Me and someone else mentioned that. Bad scum or genuine excuse, I have no idea but tend to believe the first thing. He jumps the Eversince wagon but I think that's NAI. YES YES YES (I fixed that you wrote Moosydoosy in the original post, you corrected in later) So what, lynch scum!boxerfred's scumread? I'm on page 31 now. Pizza arrived . tl;dr would lynch between scott/eversince/moosy, would look into glowingbear and fecalfeast since they dropped under the radar, need to check for lurkers. rels/kelsier/farah town, sicklucker lololol no idea. What is more towny than reading the thread one post by one and posting my thoughts to fucking every single post during the catchup-process? You are misrepresenting the facts. Why is that? Are you scum? This one also | ||
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On October 23 2015 05:43 boxerfred wrote: Also it's interesting that Shining comes out of lurking to push me after a mislynch with exactly 2 off-wagon voters happened. Vonthin picking it up that fast is weird, too. And this | ||
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On October 26 2015 18:19 Rels wrote: Man A lie 6 minutes before deadline so we don't have time to fact check Pretty nice try Dude I was typing fast so I worded it wrong but I even quoted where FF said SL could be a medic dodge. | ||
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On October 26 2015 13:44 The Shining wrote: Like...BF and Vonthin both had eachother as scum for a majority of the game, if not the entire game, but neither one really cased the other nor pushed him. I'm thinking it could've been a set up to bus if need be. Their interactions are just strange. Awesome. Am I mafia? | ||
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On October 26 2015 21:08 Rels wrote: These posts at the start of D3 before any claim situation are super good. I really don't see any other possibilities than ES / GB. Rels. I am not mafia. | ||
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On October 27 2015 00:37 FarahBlackwing wrote: Then proove it? Its obvious shining thinks its vont+ever. I'm torn between vont/ever and glowingbear/ever. I'm not mafia. I can't prove it. I simply ain't. | ||
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On October 27 2015 00:42 Rels wrote: Your bad push of FF yesterday says otherwise. It's not bad, it's actually pretty logical. And it's clear BF was bussed. Wouldn't it be better for scum to just bus BF instead trying somethig else? I mean, imagine I'm scum with Eversince like you guys are pretty certain is scum. He kills FF this night. He is now useless. If I am mafia and I bus both him and bf, I gain enough towncred to survive at LYLO. If I am mafia and I try to diverge the lynch from BF today, the probability of getting lynched later is huge. So I am basically playing against my win con. I've pushed FF because I really believed he was fake claiming | ||
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On October 27 2015 00:52 Rels wrote: That is the false part. Everybody attacked BF for its claim, so you bussing him would get you 0 towncred. And you and ES were the main wagons before the claim situation, so it's normal to me that you tried to finish the game right there. So I've tried to lynch someone not boxerfred or Eversince without the help of Eversince who has been already strongly scum read only to have myself in the eye of the tornado. Ok. | ||
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On October 27 2015 01:36 Rels wrote: If ES is scum, we don't know if she was AFK or not. She could simple wait for the last moment to switch if an opportunity was available. Yes, but if she was AFK I would know it in my QT. Basically you're fitting the possible situations to scum read me instead of just analysing facts and getting an unbiased conclusion from them | ||
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On October 27 2015 01:46 Rels wrote: Not true. Shining was scumreading voting ES super early on D1 and D3. Vonthin thought BF and ES were scum before the claim situation and immediately voted BF after the claims. I'm not saying you're slam dunk mafia, I'm saying you pushing FF is scum indicative, especially compared to Shining's and Vonthin's reactions, which are the other two options. What I mean, Rels, is that if you believe any mafia partner that could back me up was AFK, I would know this because we share a scum QT, which reinforces the case where I'm never doing what I did as scum. | ||
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On October 27 2015 02:13 Vonthin wrote: Can we talk about the possible motivations behind BFs claim? He had to have some sort of reasoning behind it to throw away his life like that. If GB was town why would he claim then? The vote was 4-2 in favor of GB over ES. If he was town why take the target off GB and put it on himself when scum could get an easy mislynch on him to end the game? It only makes sense to me to make this claim if GB is scum and possibly the RB and that BF wanted to take the bullet for him and try to give him town cred at the same time. I still don't see how the team is anything but BF/GB/ES still OR we can't know his motivations since he could simply be going to the easy win without caring of who was going to be lynched at that moment. | ||
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On October 27 2015 03:04 Vonthin wrote: the easy win was not claiming though if you are town since majority of the game thought u were scum at that point To be honest this makes total sense. But it's wrong because I'm town :/ | ||
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On October 27 2015 03:14 GlowingBear wrote: To be honest this makes total sense. But it's wrong because I'm town :/ Unless all mafia were voting me and they were afraid people could sheep Farah into Eversince. | ||
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On October 27 2015 08:42 Fecalfeast wrote: So I've been tunneled on GB all game almost and now scum leaves me alive. Eversince posted so she wouldn't get modkilled or something with chirp chirp so she's done for. I'm locked in a WIFOM tornado right now. GB is smart enough to know how to create wifom with night kills but why not just kill me but everyone has already shown a willingness to consider outside of GB for last scum but why farah? I need to mull this over Night kill is clearly for wifom. Which is dumb, they are keeping 2 confirmed townies alive. Scum QT obviously has got newbs in it | ||
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On October 27 2015 11:41 Fecalfeast wrote: which is a really good angle for you to play as scum in double mylo. You see the tornado? It's horrible because if we successful lynch mafia today they are carrying a confirmed town to LYLO. | ||
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On October 27 2015 12:19 Fecalfeast wrote: I agree that it's a bad play but if you're not mafia then BF claiming doc is an even WORSE play Well I'm not. By the way, talking about tornados | ||
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On October 27 2015 12:53 Fecalfeast wrote: dave mustaine is mafia http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/megadeths-dave-mustaine-explains-why-he-refused-to-perform-with-dissection-and-rotting-christ/ ROFL | ||
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If the night kill was made for you to wifom And if you can't know why would boxerfred claim like that Simply do not use these information to scumread anyone | ||
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On October 27 2015 23:32 Rels wrote: Do you think ES is mafia ? If yes who is the last one ? If not who are the two mafias ? I don't really know The only reason I really have to scumread ES was that he didn't immediately react to SL's claim and your CC. He decided to push boxerfred. In the other hand, well... He DID push boxerfred and his posts were very effortful. I have no reasons to town read shining or Vonthin. I really think Vonthin is our best shot as mafia. But I've been wrong all game (on mafia, not on townies). I will read their filters later. I promise. Then I'll give my opinion. | ||
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On October 28 2015 00:50 Rels wrote: The fact that you don't see that ES is scum by VCA is another suspicious thing. If ES is not scum, scum team could have hammered her for instant win. Well, I am town and I was leading the votes. So this argument is invalid. Unless they were afraid that ES could get killed instead. OR boxerfred simply wanted to use his breadcrumbs and went for the gr8 plays. Again, I think we have to evaluate overall gameplay instead of residing in VCA and NKA. | ||
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On October 28 2015 03:22 Rels wrote: At deadline. A few minutes before deadline, when vonthin refused to switch (I think, did it from memory). Ok but if that was the plan why is Eversince wastinf his vote on Farah? | ||
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On October 28 2015 07:15 Eversince wrote: ##Vote: The Shining Why him? | ||
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On October 28 2015 17:40 Rels wrote: Yo GB. I hope you're around. You finally have accepted the fact that ES is 99% mafia (yeah, like scott). I think you are the last mafia. Maybe I'm wrong, that wouldn't be the first time this game. You promised to read Shining's and Vonthin's filter to find mafia. There has to be at least one if you're town, maybe two if ES is town. When will you do it ? I'm heading to my night classes, I can't do this today. I will do it if the game continues. Don't wifom yourself. If he is 99% mafia, I am bussing him. You'll still hit a mafia and you'll have more time to reevaluate me. If you shift to me we lose the game today | ||
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On October 29 2015 05:11 The Shining wrote: Shocker At least between D1 and now, its pretty obvious she spewed me town by constantly trying to get me lynched and tunneling the fck out of me. And the vote on me...lel. I'm probably just gonna flip a coin between GB and Vonthin. I do find it very interesting that ES didn't flip RB, though. I thought the reason BF sacd himself was to save their RB to make sure they could kill Fecal. The other(leading) lynch was GB...GB could very well be the RB. What I don't get is why BF would case scumGB and try to get him lynched, then CC FF to try and save him. Unless he was going for a super pro play, it seems counterproductive. FF made a good point on the GB wifom statement too though. And I haven't forgotten how in my last scum game, GB was going to be the lynch before people shifted to me. GB raged up a storm and defended hard. This game, GB has been very pacifistic while being at lynch risk more than once. GB wanna just concede now? I'm not mafia Hopefully I will be able to prove that especially with VCA | ||
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On October 29 2015 15:23 Fecalfeast wrote: I will go full tryhard mode too just to spite you I really hope you go to final three because convincing Rels I'm not scum is gonna be difficult | ||
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On October 30 2015 05:04 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm gonna make it as long and drawn out a possible now. ##vote nolynch Not the smartest decision. You're confirmed town with the roleblocker alive. You will be 100% shot at night. So a no lynch won't help town by taking someone out of the discussion pool since you're already out of the discussion pool. But it will mean one less vote from a townie. We will decide this today. I think Vonthin is the last one. I will have to analyse the shining tho. | ||
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On October 30 2015 06:19 Fecalfeast wrote: ##unvote ##vote glowingbear I did tell rels I would You're voting town. | ||
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On October 30 2015 07:55 The Shining wrote: But then GB always knew he was going to be next lynch...I think GB would've conceded, no? Vonthin may have just pocketed me with that consistent Shining is town school and a town case...why post such an extensive town case when he had no scum cases. Just responses to people and list posts with simple reads... I kinda feel like yolo voting Vonthin... No because that's exactly what I would think in my scum mind: use that same excuse. I will work on your filters at some point. | ||
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On October 30 2015 08:20 The Shining wrote: Yeah GB if you're town and we lose, I'm completely blaming this game on you. Because I swear you look just as scummy as Vonthin. The main difference is that you don't seem to care to do anything about it I will solve the game. Atm I think last scum is Vonthin but I WILL analhse his filter and yours. | ||
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On October 30 2015 08:46 Vonthin wrote: You keep repeating that you solved the game or will solve it and that you will read mine and Shinings filters. Stop repeating yourself saying you are going to do something and just do it already. Here are the GB/ES interactions GB->ES + Show Spoiler + 1. Says he is voting for Scott and not ES since he has yet to read ES's post. Then says he has 2 pages of filler and that he is trying to play the game. Farah tells GB to vote for ES, he replies he doesn't have time to read the case and then later on votes for ES after his SL push fails and the scott wagon is secured with enough votes. Never actually says ES is scum or that he read the case. On October 20 2015 03:31 GlowingBear wrote: I actually won't be able to catch up, I have a lot to do. Skimmed a little bit. I'm not sure what to do with Kelsier's answers, it felt townie to me, but I find weird that he says there is at least one mafia between me, shining and moosy but never really pushes any of us effectively - instead, he goes against scott. But overall, his posts has town vibes in it. Scott came bad to the thread and I agree with the suspicions brought on him. I don't wish to lynch Eversince since I didn't read his posts. I don't think he is one to be lynched today due to activity, either. As my knowledge of this ongoing game is limited, I'd go against lurkers. I hate fecal feast/sicklucker wasting their votes. If one of them is mafia, both wagons are town. That said, I want to vote sicklucker for his lackluster push on LoneMeow. If people don't want to, I'd vote FF. Since I don't think Eversince should be lynched today, I am voting the alternate wagon that did a scummy think. ##unvote ##vote: Scott31337 BUT I PREFER TO LYNCH SICKLUCKER OR FECALFEAST FOR WASTING THEIR VOTES If people is willing to do so, let me know On October 20 2015 03:36 GlowingBear wrote: He has two pages filter and it looks to me that he is trying to play the game. 2. GB talking about how ES has disinterest on the BF claim, doesnt push it further than this. On October 22 2015 03:55 GlowingBear wrote: It's not about WHAT you said, it is about the initial disinterest you had on the claim. I mean, there was a claim AND a counter claim but instead of dropping any discussion you were having to give thoughts about it, you kept pushing Boxerfred. I would expect a townie to immediately react to the claims. Unless you know both their alignmebts, so it is disinteresting On October 22 2015 04:00 GlowingBear wrote: Rels counter claimed and voted sicklucker, dude. He immediately reacted to it 3. Cute banter between each other 4. Here he reads that ES isn't mafia after all the scummy shit ES did all game and even defending ES a little bit from Farah On October 26 2015 02:17 GlowingBear wrote: Listen. In my mind, the one very tired of this game, the scum team is Vonthin, Shining and Boxerfred. I have yet to believe Eversince is mafia. If he is mafia, then take out The Shining. I understand what you told me about Eversince being the Roleblocker and boxerfred sacrificing himself to protect him. But think of it this way: if you're madia and you have 3 of you alive, wouldn't you risk fake counter claiming so you can get an easy win? In this scenario, there is no "protection". Just a guy trying to win. If there is this possibility here, then the grounds to read Eversince as the roleblocker falls apart, don't you think? ES--->GB + Show Spoiler + Nothing about GB besides her replying to the stuff in the GB-ES listed above till the day of the BF claim untill she says she doesn't like 2 of GBs quotes then adds GB to the scum team with Farah On October 25 2015 02:36 Eversince wrote: I hate this quote too. I like Boxer's/ Rels points on Glowing too. But there is no reason for town to not want to put effort in here. If we don't, we lose. This is the last time she mentions GB in her filter. Ok. | ||
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On October 31 2015 01:00 The Shining wrote: Lol I swear to God GB I'll read your case. At 18 o clock here. | ||
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Unfortunately I'm going to a party in like 15 minutes. Let me see if I can finish it before that. | ||
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On October 31 2015 10:16 Fecalfeast wrote: So basically vonthin I'd like you to go through the shining's case and talk about your mindset in the situations he describes. Specificaly the stuff that takes place AFTER your 9 initial posts GB, play the fucking game you have promised content so much Tomorrow morning I'm driiiiiiiiinking | ||
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On October 31 2015 13:05 Fecalfeast wrote: frick, can you blame me for not wanting to let gb get away with such a scummy game? I will not get away. I have plenty of reasons to believe Vonthin is mafia. But I'm only building a case when I finish reading shining. I will sleep now. Tomorrow will be the day. | ||
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I wanted to bring a lot of things I've found on Vonthin and make a tidy case. It won't be possible. Anyway, after reading Vonthin's filter, his first posts looked actually very townie. The problem is the page 3 of his filter. If you go to page three, you will see that he says Boxerfred is 100% scum, but he never votes him. Instead, he starts to push a "team" of Farah and Boxerfred, hard pushing Farah instead. Then he makes a team of GB/BF. Then he votes me. If Boxerfred is 100% scum, why voting me first? Plus, why does he consider "teams" up to the lynch? He said repeatedly "GB/BF" and "ES/Farah", conveniently paring a scum to a townie, AND PUSHING THE TOWNIES from those teams. Never the scum. This is the main argument on why Vonthin is mafia. Other argument are the night kills. All the dead townies were suspecting Vonthin. But especially Farah. Why is Farah dead instead of any of the confirmed? Because she was on the right track and with her dead the Roleblocker wasn't in risk of being lynched. It was better to have the townie with the correct reads dead than risk losing the game. And Farah suspected Vonthin Finally, but weak: drunk bear can't be wrong twice. ##Vote: Vonthin Unfortunately, I probably won't have time to double check Shining, but I have enough reasons to lynch Vonthin. FF, I'm not mafia. I swear I'm town. If you lose this game because I'm mafia I will never be against you policy lymching me in any other games. I swear I'm town. | ||
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Farah gets shot, Vonthin goes for the Boxerfred/GB, starts lynching GB but joins Boxerfred wagon when he looks very bad. Then votes me without giving a single thought on Eversince, and never think shining could be scum. Just "kill GB kill GB kill GB" | ||
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On November 01 2015 03:39 Fecalfeast wrote: Frick I've done what I've could inside my schedule. I'm sorry I couldn't do more. But the only way shining is mafia is if Vonthin is town. Because I'm town. And everything points to Vonthin being magia I'm drunk again and my drunk senses are already pointing out to Vonthin. Trust drunk bear. | ||
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ARGH What do I do I have ARGH I don't know | ||
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On November 01 2015 04:18 The Shining wrote: lol if you're town and sincerely think I'm scum, why the fuck would I not just vote you and afk this shitty last day? I still think it's Vonthin. Dude doesn't even care about EoD, said he wouldn't be here. And tbh GB being so damn wrong all game is actually a town tell to me. Can't tell you how any times I've seen GB tunnel townies as town. My vote stays. Vonthin is scum. Lynch Vonthin or lose the game, idc. SKT won League Worlds so I refuse to let this bring me down Tbf you could've just vote him if he is town just so you can pull this argument. But this is wifom. Don't let the alcohol wifom you | ||
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I'm drunk DRUNK BEAR CAN'T BE WRONG TWICE YEAAAAH | ||
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On November 01 2015 05:58 Eversince wrote: I think killing Farah was fine. I wasn't involved in that vote but as best as I can understand; There was no way of leaving Farah/Shining up. Neither would vote the other, so the only option Vonthin really had was to risk leaving the confirmed up and rollin' the dice. It did come really close for him. Much closer than I think it would of been if he hadn't chose to kill Farah. It doesn't matter how right Farah was, you've judst narrowed the options in LYLO. I felt free to discuss only shining and Vonthin. FecalFeast wasn't a problem to me. You've reduced your chance of getting alive from 33% to 25% basically That's my opinion | ||
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Welcome to TL Mafia and I hope you guys enjoyed it. PS: Damdy, your wife is better than you | ||
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On November 01 2015 08:00 Damdred wrote: I'm sure Farah will come by in a bit to really give her thoughts but I'll just post some feelings. 1) The day one lynch on Scott was acceptable, it was OK couldn't blame anyone for it. Its unfortunate that the case by farah wasn't sheeped (I thought it was quite strong). 2) Early on especially the veteran town ignored the newbies to a certain extent. In the cases of GB and LM refused to read the case or really comment on it. Especially since this is a new game horrendoua , generally speaking newbs will learn more by interacting. 3) The SL kill was where it got a bit odd. It was OK just odd. 4) The boxer claim wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. I understand the plan was to make GB boxer a team in the eyes of the game. The plan was excellent and for the say and a half following it worked.The problem is the plan hinged on vonthan doing more work and looking Towny. The two ways to accomplish this was accomplished partly needing Farah dead and people alive to tunnel GB. Imo the best course of action would be kill farah, then kill shining. It doesn't matter confirmed vs non confirmed it matters people trying to solve the game vs people who aren't. Nk would of been great in a final three with GB vont amd rels. Scum te played well a couple of gutsy town decisions won it. Gj This would have been bad imo cause they would take 2 confirmed townies to LYLO + it would be obvious it would be to frame me | ||
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I'm sorry, scott, but this game burned me out and I just couldn't play it anymore after moosy's flip. Also, I've got pretty busy. I do, however, look forward to play with you again in the future because I like you and I think I can read you pretty well lately. I won't be playing for a while (HOORAY for most people!). I will be hanging around, tho. Thank you guys for all the good time I've spent here. Although I have had some heated discussions in here lately, I wish all the best to you guys and I'm leaving with no hard feelings. I would like to explain my play in this game. Until Moosy's flip, I was playing a very straight forward game and I tried to be very strict and serious with what I've posted. This was because a lot of players criticised The way I play, especially Rayn. But when I saw that Moosy wasn't scum my willingness to play died. It just felt the effort I was trying to put in shaping my play wasn't worth it. And that's it. By the way, Kelsier, I'm sorry for being bad manner with you in this game, and I hope you didn't get offended. In the end, I really appreciate the way you play. I think that's all | ||
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On November 01 2015 12:17 scott31337 wrote: GB - I don't want to comment about your other game - but if Shining didn't pull off the epic case - it would've been really bad. I give him MVP for it. I was a little frustrated and drunk when I posted that in the OBS QT - If you are town in LYLO - pull out all the stops, drinking can wait I've borked two lylo's myself - and I've learned from my mistakes. You did well enough to have Shining think you are "too scummy/don't care to be scum" and it worked this time. No hard feelings to be honest, GB. I apologize if that was a little harsh. Can we roll together again? Edit - your last wall of text post actually had some good feelings in it and may have sealed it for FF to sheep Shining's case - you just didn't do it earlier, and there's so many excuses you can use until you are scum read. No no, it's fine, I completely understand hahaha I just don't like to annoy people and seeing that you considered not playing with me again (I understand you didn't mean it), I get upset because there are some people I'll always like to play with. Yes, we can roll together By the way, I had so much I wanted to talk about Vonthin by that time, but I really screwed up with schedules. This time I was really willing to do some hard work, but obligations and social life consumed me (I actually had a beer festival scheduled for today afternoon that I couldn't postpone lol) | ||
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I think most players in here played very well, but I can't emphasized how impressed I am for Farah's townplay. Not only she found scum on day1 but the was able to town read me soon and accurately. Gj! | ||
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On November 01 2015 20:17 KelsierSC wrote: I didn't realise you were being bad mannered but apology accepted I've said "you suck" XD | ||
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On November 01 2015 14:48 Eversince wrote: Aww, it's bound to happen I think Glowing. Schedules are subject to change without much notice. I don't see a point in arguing you'd not play with someone because of it. Maby if it was your 3'rd game and you'd afked your way through all of them. Farah did really good. I think she had the entire mafia team squared by late D3. The only thing that gave her pause (Obs QT) was you/Vonthin. I'll repeat that you've played a very good game, as most of the scum team. I think the only slip you had IMO was not caring for SL's and Rels' claims. Other than that, great job Keep playing, newbies, cause TL Mafia needs people with your skills | ||
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