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GlowingBear
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October 13 2015 11:37 GMT
#12
/coach town
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GlowingBear
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October 13 2015 14:10 GMT
#30
On October 13 2015 21:12 rsoultin wrote:
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On October 13 2015 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 13 2015 21:04 rsoultin wrote:
i should probably apologize for that but i won't. if you're going to coach you should be willing to coach either alignment. head's up for when i host newbies again

Except a bad mafia coach can lose the game if they don't know what they are doing.
And coaching mafia actually requires reading the game which i am not sure if i want to do.


lol makes sense

still hold the same opinion, though xP

(also i don't actually randomize coaches cause i feel that newbies should get something out of their coaching...i'm pretty sure that bh does randomize. not 100% on that)

you and gb also aren't bad mafia coaches >>


I've coached a mafia team once. They were rekt.

Also I can't keep track of the Mafia QT... But anyway... I could coach mafia too, yeah.
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GlowingBear
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October 13 2015 16:30 GMT
#50
On October 14 2015 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
btw i'm not really following, do we have a problem with not enough coaches in general? what's the shindig?


I think there are enough coaches in general. The discussion is just that coaches are supposed to be willing to coach either alignments or not.

I have a 7/9 or 8/10 score as mafia but I was lynches in like 6 or 7, so I was doubting my ability to coach mafia.


Anyway. One thing I would like to add is that town coach QT is very straight forward. Scum QT not only involves coaching but also strategy discussion. It's like that teacher who tries to give his classes to a non-stop talking students.
Maybe having a separate QT for coaching would help?
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GlowingBear
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October 13 2015 16:32 GMT
#51
On October 14 2015 00:27 NocturneMage wrote:
that said I had zero issues with GB as a mafia coach. we got rekt because of an afk Barakos (couldn't even get his attention via pm) or any trade-off for him getting lynched, my work schedule dicked me over completely and I failed to communicate properly what I was trying to do with n00bking during the day 3 frenzy.

wouldn't mind having a go at mafia again, I just know not to sign up for games now if I work too many overnights.


Good to know this. Thank you
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GlowingBear
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October 13 2015 16:55 GMT
#56
On October 14 2015 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 01:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Anyway. One thing I would like to add is that town coach QT is very straight forward. Scum QT not only involves coaching but also strategy discussion. It's like that teacher who tries to give his classes to a non-stop talking students.
Maybe having a separate QT for coaching would help?

I disagree.
I think the mafia coach should encourage their team to strategize and when the team does so, then encourage them to think if their strategy is actually good or not.

But i agree with marv, if i was mafia in a newbie game i wouldn't even want a scum coach for my team.


I also think this, but sometimes questions and answers are lost in a clusterfuck of messages in a scum QT that sometimes the coach can't miss.

Having separate QTs (one for the scum team to discuss and one for the scum team to interact with the coach) would help organise things. This doesn't mean the coach must not have access to the scum QT. He could still help the newbies with that, but posting in a separate QT.

Anyway, just a suggestion.
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GlowingBear
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October 13 2015 17:08 GMT
#62
On October 14 2015 02:00 Half the Sky wrote:
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On October 14 2015 01:30 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 14 2015 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
btw i'm not really following, do we have a problem with not enough coaches in general? what's the shindig?


I think there are enough coaches in general. The discussion is just that coaches are supposed to be willing to coach either alignments or not.

I have a 7/9 or 8/10 score as mafia but I was lynches in like 6 or 7, so I was doubting my ability to coach mafia.


Anyway. One thing I would like to add is that town coach QT is very straight forward. Scum QT not only involves coaching but also strategy discussion. It's like that teacher who tries to give his classes to a non-stop talking students.
Maybe having a separate QT for coaching would help?


Kitaman has already done this for his newbies - when I was mafia in his games - we had our own coaching QT as individual scummers and then the scum coaches also shared the scum QT with us. So they could talk our individual strategies with us in our individual QT and then team strategy/mislynches/nightkills were discussed in the collective mafia QT.

This was also helpful in the event scummers had problems/conflicts/disagreements with each other - whilst not the case in any of my scumteams it could prove helpful in certain situations. And it also reduced the clutter in the mafia QT as well.


I think this is good.

I had in mind a shared strategy QT and a shared coach QT, but what you said may also work
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GlowingBear
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October 13 2015 17:09 GMT
#63
On October 14 2015 02:04 rsoultin wrote:
I understand and apologize for being unclear but as you can see when I don't find the two roles any different and you do, the source of the miscommunication is obvious. Please don't use this as a reason not to coach.

I'm opinionated but if you think i'm wrong that being a coach for both alignments is essentially the same thing you shouldn't let my opinion keep you from coaching


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GlowingBear
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October 14 2015 00:56 GMT
#80
On October 14 2015 04:45 FarahBlackwing wrote:
/in

I hope I'm ok enough


Welcome!
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GlowingBear
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October 14 2015 01:38 GMT
#84
On October 14 2015 10:36 KelsierSC wrote:
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On October 14 2015 10:30 sicklucker wrote:
Pms said it was some guy named sqrtofneg1, never heard of him

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/qFsHAmKZh4Te

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/C7EXB667Yk3i


you probably imagined him


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Slam knows him well. I remember him from Avogadro's Number. Argh.
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GlowingBear
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October 16 2015 00:47 GMT
#108
Hmm I was thinking about /in instead of coaching.

BH what do you prefer?
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GlowingBear
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October 16 2015 14:34 GMT
#122
On October 16 2015 09:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Hmm I was thinking about /in instead of coaching.

BH what do you prefer?


Nvm I will just coach
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GlowingBear
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October 16 2015 21:27 GMT
#147
/confirm
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GlowingBear
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Last Edited: 2015-10-16 23:24:33
October 16 2015 23:23 GMT
#149
NVM, I'm stupid
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 00:47 GMT
#151
On October 17 2015 08:32 scott31337 wrote:
Drinking already?


Nah, just meth + Show Spoiler +
O HAI THIS IS A JOKE I DON'T USE METH, nor math


I'm gonna drink in a couple of hours. If I was already playing I would hammer the scum team + Show Spoiler +
this is not a joke.
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 20:06 GMT
#157
O hai
I'm town
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 20:20 GMT
#163
On October 18 2015 05:13 Vonthin wrote:
glhf everyone. Just a reminder this is a game to have fun and not to get stressed out and emotional which I saw happen to some people(myself included) in the past newbie games I've played in.

I'm town and ready to hunt some scum. Just a reminder our goal isn't to live, its to hunt scum even if it costs us our lives in the process.


How many games have you played before?
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 20:23 GMT
#168
On October 18 2015 05:20 Vonthin wrote:
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On October 18 2015 05:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:13 Vonthin wrote:
glhf everyone. Just a reminder this is a game to have fun and not to get stressed out and emotional which I saw happen to some people(myself included) in the past newbie games I've played in.

I'm town and ready to hunt some scum. Just a reminder our goal isn't to live, its to hunt scum even if it costs us our lives in the process.


How many games have you played before?


This is like my 3rd I think, First game I got lynched on day 1 as VT, second game I was cop and checked positive 2p eople and won it for us, 3rd I had to drop out of after half a day


Alright
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 20:24 GMT
#169
On October 18 2015 05:23 FarahBlackwing wrote:
What is a bus?


BABY DON'T HURT ME
DON'T HURT ME
NO MORE

It's when a mafia tries to get his scum lynched
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 20:25 GMT
#171
On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB can i bus you again?


And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 20:37 GMT
#185
On October 18 2015 05:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
So moosydoosy claimed mafia unprompted and then glowing bear tries to cover foe it.

That doesn't make any sense I think both of you are mafia now. It makes no sense logically for that to happen.



Why does that makes us both mafia?
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 20:38 GMT
#186
On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.

mmm...choices choices choices


This makes me want to actually lynch you
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 20:58 GMT
#205
There is no such thing as "deciding a meta". You play to win and that's all.

Von-guy, what do you think of Moosy here?
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 21:11 GMT
#207
On October 18 2015 06:06 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Moos is pretty obvious scum and I don't see any logical point in you trying to joke with him unless you are trying to cover for some form of slip of the tongue.



Let me rephrase it:

If scum wants to survive, why would he act in such suicidal way?

Also, I was joking, I'm not trying to cover anyone. Why do you think this? Why a townie wouldn't joke about it?

It's simple: any mafia claim is a joke. No mafia would claim mafia and a town can't possibly claim mafia unless it's jokingly. So his post was not alignmrnt indicative
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 21:16 GMT
#215
On October 18 2015 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
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On October 18 2015 05:45 The Shining wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here.


Hi! Are you happy to be here?

Actually no since I rolled VT just like I did in all of my last games ffs and I have moosy and gb spam up the thread although I said pregame that I'm on a limited schedule. actually no, I#m not happy.


I'm not spamming, I'm being productive.

Moosy is spamming.
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 21:18 GMT
#216
On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.

He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.

So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.


I'm not saying mafia wouldn't do it. I'm saying any alignment could do it. Which makes groundless any scum read based on this
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 21:22 GMT
#219
I see no problem in boxers post
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GlowingBear
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October 17 2015 21:30 GMT
#221
On October 18 2015 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 18 2015 06:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I see no problem in boxers post

Really? Read it again. He could have just answered that he was annoyed at the spam but he feels the need to give an excuse of having no time as well as claiming VT all in one. It's very awkward to cram it into one post hm...?

Also, while I realize that he normally does have real life obligations, it is still something to note that he feels it is necessary to claim that he won't be posting much.


I really can't see clear scum morivation behind that post.

I mean, he even said BEFORE the game started that he wouldn't have enough time to play anyway
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GlowingBear
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October 18 2015 00:15 GMT
#247
On October 18 2015 08:01 KelsierSC wrote:
moosy and then one of GB/shining are scum probably.

The mafia QT probably looks like "hi dude we both rolled mafia LOLOLOL let's shit up the thread"


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GlowingBear
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October 18 2015 00:52 GMT
#250
On October 18 2015 08:38 Vonthin wrote:
I don't understand this game lol, nothing like the few games I've played in or obs'd. So much shitposting to provoke people or to just cause chaos, I don't know why towns people would do this


And why do you think they're town?
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GlowingBear
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October 18 2015 00:55 GMT
#252
Moosy, why are you looking so handsome today?
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October 18 2015 01:04 GMT
#254
On October 18 2015 09:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 18 2015 09:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Moosy, why are you looking so handsome today?

I'm meeting a girl today.

Oh wait! She's right here!


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GlowingBear
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October 18 2015 01:54 GMT
#255
(1)Farah looks townie for her posts. She is objective and her opening is straight forward to the point, asking "what is a bus" when she saw something she couldn't understand in thread. A little bit of WIFOM argument: I don't think she would ask what is it directly to the thread, but in the scum QT. As a first-timer, I would expect that she would be a little cautious before posting things in thread and be agressively scumhunting if she was scum.

The only thing that is making me wary of her is that she is not trying to see players coming through all perspectives even when I inquired her to do so. Being that aggressive and tunneled already in the beginning of the game isn't townie, and it's very rare on townie first-timers.

(2)The Shining's opening is horrendous IMO. It felt forced and tried to hard to give us the idea that he is town. The "someone be obvscum" thing isn't convincing. I don't like it. Also, these posts doesn't add up: + Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2015 05:33 The Shining wrote:
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On October 18 2015 05:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
So moosydoosy claimed mafia unprompted and then glowing bear tries to cover foe it.

That doesn't make any sense I think both of you are mafia now. It makes no sense logically for that to happen.


I think this is your first, or one of, your first games here, right? Unfortunately that's how TL works sometimes. People like to start the game off silly and carefree until a good majority of the players show up and get down and dirty


On October 18 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote:
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On October 18 2015 05:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:30 The Shining wrote:
Ohaithere guys. This is probably one of the first games that im not starting halfway into the day phase. This is weird.

Yeah I'm at like a 90-95% town roll rate and it apparently hasn't changed. It's amusing, but boring.

Someone be obvscum for D1 red flip pls

I am such a shiny town.


K i might want to lynch you. I am the shiny town here, good sir, why do you want to be like me? Because you are scum!


If the TL meta UNFORTUNATELY have the joke phase, why participating in it? I mean, if you don't like it, why estimulate it? It doesn't make sense to me.

This post is very okay, tho:
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On October 18 2015 06:59 The Shining wrote:
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On October 18 2015 06:33 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also I kind of regret signing up for BH games in the first place. I always roll town in them which is getting super super boring.


This seems like your trying to push this a little too much - just a thought here...

On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB can i bus you again?


And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else

welp too late.

##Vote: GlowingBear


And a shit early vote.

Now he's spamming up the thread.

I'm not caring for this play so far.

GB is a slight townlean - and that's about it.


This entrance is weak. Scott doesn't comment on anyone else except a slight townlean on GB(who is asking people about Moosy, the only other player mentioned here). He distances himself from his first thought in saying Moosy he's pushing the fact that he's town a little hard but its "just a thought."

Then he picks on an obvious joke vote and conversation between GB and Moosy to slight town GB and suspect Moosy?

Why is GB slight townlean? Flesh that out for me.


(3)MoosyDoosy is being stupid, which isn't alignment indicative for him. But this post isn't good: + Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.

mmm...choices choices choices
... It's just a fluffy post that doesn't make sense. I can't understand what he means with "choosing a meta". There is no "choosing", you play the way you think is better or funnier, and your meta will be a consequence of it. Why is moosy considering "not caring for the game"? Again, it's just a post where he says nothing, and I don't like it. He answered me but I don't think it was satisfying.

(4)KelsierSC can't do this as town:

On October 18 2015 08:01 KelsierSC wrote:
moosy and then one of GB/shining are scum probably.

The mafia QT probably looks like "hi dude we both rolled mafia LOLOLOL let's shit up the thread"


Kelsier is a very logical player, saying something this bad as town isn't his fashion.

(5)Vonthin, I wasn't liking this guy too much. Especially because he said this:

On October 18 2015 08:38 Vonthin wrote:
I don't understand this game lol, nothing like the few games I've played in or obs'd. So much shitposting to provoke people or to just cause chaos, I don't know why towns people would do this


(i) he opened the game by saying town should not care to survive and go scum hunting, but then (ii) he does nothing in order to scumhunt and (iii) participates in the jokes just to say this.
Reading this post in a vacuum, however, conveys town vibes it really seems he is struggling with the terrible start. I'm not sure what to think.




That's all I have for now.

So, basically, Farah townlean, Kelsier scumlean, others null-ish.

I'd like people to talk about things I've brought here.
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GlowingBear
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October 18 2015 02:27 GMT
#257
Anyone wants to play SC2 with a complete newbie?

I mean, I know the basic commands, but I suck
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GlowingBear
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October 18 2015 02:51 GMT
#260
On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...

I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.

Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.

Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.

Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?

I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.

Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list?


I really see nothing important in boxerfred's posts for now. It's like he hasn't even been here.

And you've got it right, I don't like your entrance but I approve you push on scott. It looked townie.

Scott and boxerfred aren't in my list because I had nothing to talk about them. I'm terrible at reading scott anyway, but he reads me very well. Let's see how his reads will progress.
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October 18 2015 02:51 GMT
#261
On October 18 2015 11:39 The Shining wrote:
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On October 18 2015 11:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Anyone wants to play SC2 with a complete newbie?

I mean, I know the basic commands, but I suck


I stopped playing when my gaming laptop blew up and I had to downgrade to a Macbook. Now League is all I play


Argh...

No, dude, always go for Dota2
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October 18 2015 05:51 GMT
#273
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October 18 2015 12:17 GMT
#292
Rels, having a plan in a game and having a meta are two completely different things...

"Playing a straight forward game" =\= "I'm going to emulate other player's meta"

The way you came to the thread is exactly the same as your last scum game. You might be mafia again
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October 18 2015 12:32 GMT
#294
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...

I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.

Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.

Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.

Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?

I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.

Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list?


The joke phase between the three of you was so incredibly unfunny and I would have happily lynched all of you, upon reflection there was probably one mafia trying way too hard. Moosy was just spamming complete nonsense it made me want to give up reading. That was my interpretation of the events up to that point.

(A)GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. (b)Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.

His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above.
The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB.
I want to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.



Dude, Kelsier, I've been trying to play a good game with you but you insist with this. I have a history of doing "stupid stunts" for some people, but I am playing a very straight forward game since the last one. So IF you're town, actually read my list instead of just saying it's classic GB with illogical reads, because they are far from illogical.

If you have actually read it you would realise I was commenting ONLY on people that had posted, so point (A) doesn't make sense. Point (B): it's a post where I share my vision of what has been posted so far and I ask players to bounce their reads on it. You see, I've seen a lot of alignment indicstive behaviours - which you fail to realise/discuss just to base a read on a joke phase. And the joke phase wasn't even that long. I started playing the exact moment the game started, and you should see it if you actually read my filter.

If you're town, please, play the game. If not, die.

##Vote: KelsierSC
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GlowingBear
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October 18 2015 12:32 GMT
#295
On October 18 2015 21:19 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 21:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Rels, having a plan in a game and having a meta are two completely different things...

"Playing a straight forward game" =\= "I'm going to emulate other player's meta"

The way you came to the thread is exactly the same as your last scum game. You might be mafia again

What do you think of sicklucker ?


I'm hating him, so it probably means he is town
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GlowingBear
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October 18 2015 12:34 GMT
#297
Explanation: the sicklucker I've played a long time ago didn't make much sense as mafia, but even less sense as town. He annoyed me as fuck. Last game was liking him, and he turned out to be mafia. This game I'm not, so I have this gut feeling he might be town. Other than that I didn't see anything objectively alignment indicative
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October 18 2015 12:42 GMT
#299
On October 18 2015 12:50 Vonthin wrote:
My reads so far:

Town:

Scott-No shitposts, most of his posts are good questions

Farah- Not much to read on but I've like what I've seen so far

Glowingbear-Besides some of the banter with Moosy his posts look pro town to me, raising good points and asking good questions especially to myself

Shining - See no problems with his filter cept he went with the funny opening for too long

Boxer- Not much for me to go on, asked Mooser to stop shitposting was nice but I feel like the limited time thing is an excuse I have seen scum use often. More of a null read but 2 lazy to make a category just for him since he is the only one besides the 4 who haven't posted

Scum

Mooser- Lots of shitposting and spamming posts without any substance. This post still bothers me, even if you are town and want to spam non stop you still should care about looking town which makes things easier for the rest of us

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On October 18 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:45 Vonthin wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here.

I plan to spam so hard you won't be able to read me.


Don't you want to be read as a townie though?

I don't particularly care tbh.


Fecalfeast - His first post was not a good way to start imo, second one doesn't tell me anything earlier though I do have some sympathy for the allergies.

Kelseir - His posts were all fluff and negative for the most part


Anyways its bed time


Vonthin, can you explain me what you found good in Scott's questions that deserved to be a town read?
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October 18 2015 12:47 GMT
#305
On October 18 2015 21:45 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:
(3)MoosyDoosy is being stupid, which isn't alignment indicative for him. But this post isn't good: + Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.

mmm...choices choices choices
... It's just a fluffy post that doesn't make sense. I can't understand what he means with "choosing a meta". There is no "choosing", you play the way you think is better or funnier, and your meta will be a consequence of it. Why is moosy considering "not caring for the game"? Again, it's just a post where he says nothing, and I don't like it. He answered me but I don't think it was satisfying.


This sounds like you'd be slightly scumreading him, but you listed him as null, why?


Because he does this kind of scummy things as town so I don't think I had enough to had a scum read on him
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October 18 2015 12:48 GMT
#306
On October 18 2015 21:44 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 21:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...

I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.

Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.

Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.

Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?

I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.

Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list?


The joke phase between the three of you was so incredibly unfunny and I would have happily lynched all of you, upon reflection there was probably one mafia trying way too hard. Moosy was just spamming complete nonsense it made me want to give up reading. That was my interpretation of the events up to that point.

(A)GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. (b)Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.

His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above.
The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB.
I want to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.



Dude, Kelsier, I've been trying to play a good game with you but you insist with this. I have a history of doing "stupid stunts" for some people, but I am playing a very straight forward game since the last one. So IF you're town, actually read my list instead of just saying it's classic GB with illogical reads, because they are far from illogical.

If you have actually read it you would realise I was commenting ONLY on people that had posted, so point (A) doesn't make sense. Point (B): it's a post where I share my vision of what has been posted so far and I ask players to bounce their reads on it. You see, I've seen a lot of alignment indicstive behaviours - which you fail to realise/discuss just to base a read on a joke phase. And the joke phase wasn't even that long. I started playing the exact moment the game started, and you should see it if you actually read my filter.

If you're town, please, play the game. If not, die.

##Vote: KelsierSC


insist with what, your list post was trash and pointless


What was trash and pointless in it?
Please point out the flaws.
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GlowingBear
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October 18 2015 13:04 GMT
#316
On October 18 2015 21:51 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 21:47 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:45 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:
(3)MoosyDoosy is being stupid, which isn't alignment indicative for him. But this post isn't good: + Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.

mmm...choices choices choices
... It's just a fluffy post that doesn't make sense. I can't understand what he means with "choosing a meta". There is no "choosing", you play the way you think is better or funnier, and your meta will be a consequence of it. Why is moosy considering "not caring for the game"? Again, it's just a post where he says nothing, and I don't like it. He answered me but I don't think it was satisfying.


This sounds like you'd be slightly scumreading him, but you listed him as null, why?


Because he does this kind of scummy things as town so I don't think I had enough to had a scum read on him


Can you point out a game for me to check where he's done something similar? I've never played with him so not familiar with his meta at all.


It's Crossfire Mafia. He found me suspicious for my opening then went back again just to say I've done that before. It's the same here: a weak suspicion and a quick clearing of it
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GlowingBear
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October 18 2015 13:07 GMT
#318
On October 18 2015 21:51 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 21:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...

I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.

Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.

Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.

Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?

I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.

Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list?


The joke phase between the three of you was so incredibly unfunny and I would have happily lynched all of you, upon reflection there was probably one mafia trying way too hard. Moosy was just spamming complete nonsense it made me want to give up reading. That was my interpretation of the events up to that point.

(A)GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. (b)Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.

His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above.
The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB.
I want to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.



Dude, Kelsier, I've been trying to play a good game with you but you insist with this. I have a history of doing "stupid stunts" for some people, but I am playing a very straight forward game since the last one. So IF you're town, actually read my list instead of just saying it's classic GB with illogical reads, because they are far from illogical.

If you have actually read it you would realise I was commenting ONLY on people that had posted, so point (A) doesn't make sense. Point (B): it's a post where I share my vision of what has been posted so far and I ask players to bounce their reads on it. You see, I've seen a lot of alignment indicstive behaviours - which you fail to realise/discuss just to base a read on a joke phase. And the joke phase wasn't even that long. I started playing the exact moment the game started, and you should see it if you actually read my filter.

If you're town, please, play the game. If not, die.

##Vote: KelsierSC


insist with what, your list post was trash and pointless


What was trash and pointless in it?
Please point out the flaws.


most of the list was null and based off of a "joke phase" you have people with "horrendous openings etc." and that makes them null but I "have to be scum" because I pointed out how terrible the opening of the game was.

super unnecessary list that didn't say anything of value. that enough flaws?



Having nulls doesn't mean it is flawed. Do you agree/disagree with any of my impressions on that list?

You didn't point out how terrible the opening was. You scum read people for it. Strangely enough, you based your scum read on the same joke phase you accuse me of basing my scum reads.
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GlowingBear
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October 18 2015 13:53 GMT
#327
Oh okay!
Now I'm convinced
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October 18 2015 14:03 GMT
#330
Who is mafia with scott, Kelsier?
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October 18 2015 14:17 GMT
#334
Game is not going well...
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October 18 2015 14:21 GMT
#336
On October 18 2015 23:19 sicklucker wrote:
no and its snowing outside...


42 Celsius in Rio \o/
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GlowingBear
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October 18 2015 14:52 GMT
#340
On October 18 2015 23:36 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hi, I'm sitting around reading the game and Idk if I should just post things in a list? I'll try that and see how it goes.

I'm pretty convinced at this juncture that lone is town a bit. Or at least worth keeping around for another day. There seems to be some form of curiosity and pushing in the questions that he is asking. And when pointed to the database(great tool btw) it looks remarkably different from the other games where they have rolled scum.

I also now think that glowingbear is more than likely town. She just seems to be trying to help the thread in a decent direction and trying to give her reads in a concise fashion. I think she is town.

I think my no st controversial read here is shining. I think he's town, just from general knowledge and looking at other games (his last scum game especially) the posts don't seem longish/boring and have a flair and really playful. While it's worth noting it's preliminary I think there's a good shot at him being town.

Any questions just ask and I'll try to answer.


Yes. What about Moosy?
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GlowingBear
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October 18 2015 14:52 GMT
#341
On October 18 2015 23:45 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 23:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Who is mafia with scott, Kelsier?


don't be fucking stupid dude


?
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GlowingBear
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October 19 2015 03:04 GMT
#486
Hello
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October 19 2015 03:24 GMT
#487
Bye bye

+ Show Spoiler +
I am tired. Gonna catch up tomorrow
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October 19 2015 18:00 GMT
#605
Argh I forgot about this...

How many time we have left?
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October 19 2015 18:09 GMT
#613
On October 20 2015 03:01 KelsierSC wrote:
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On October 20 2015 03:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Argh I forgot about this...

How many time we have left?


two hours.


Argh okay I'll try to catch up now
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October 19 2015 18:31 GMT
#617
I actually won't be able to catch up, I have a lot to do.

Skimmed a little bit. I'm not sure what to do with Kelsier's answers, it felt townie to me, but I find weird that he says there is at least one mafia between me, shining and moosy but never really pushes any of us effectively - instead, he goes against scott. But overall, his posts has town vibes in it.

Scott came bad to the thread and I agree with the suspicions brought on him.

I don't wish to lynch Eversince since I didn't read his posts. I don't think he is one to be lynched today due to activity, either.

As my knowledge of this ongoing game is limited, I'd go against lurkers. I hate fecal feast/sicklucker wasting their votes. If one of them is mafia, both wagons are town.

That said, I want to vote sicklucker for his lackluster push on LoneMeow. If people don't want to, I'd vote FF. Since I don't think Eversince should be lynched today, I am voting the alternate wagon that did a scummy think.

##unvote
##vote: Scott31337


BUT I PREFER TO LYNCH SICKLUCKER OR FECALFEAST FOR WASTING THEIR VOTES
If people is willing to do so, let me know
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GlowingBear
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October 19 2015 18:36 GMT
#619
On October 20 2015 03:33 FarahBlackwing wrote:
What activity by ever since?


He has two pages filter and it looks to me that he is trying to play the game.
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October 19 2015 18:50 GMT
#625
Ok, I think a townie can only be very tunneled and keeping his vote on someone if they constantly try to convince the rest of town to vote with him. A tunneled person can never be this passive.

And a town not sure if his scum read would be voting one of the main wagobs right now.

I'm voting Sicklucker

##Unvote
##Vote: sicklucker
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October 19 2015 18:50 GMT
#626
Wait

Moosy doosy is voting with his main scumread, boxerfred

Did he flip his read on him?
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October 19 2015 18:51 GMT
#627
Farah, sorry, I don't have time to do that now
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October 19 2015 19:17 GMT
#637
LM you're town. Vote sicklucker with me.
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October 19 2015 19:20 GMT
#640
On October 20 2015 04:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
I just woke up and skimmed the new posts.
##unvote
##vote scott31337


seems fine to me if nobody else sees how scummy vonthin is


##Unvote
##Vote: eversince
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October 19 2015 19:27 GMT
#643
On October 20 2015 04:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On October 20 2015 04:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 20 2015 04:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
I just woke up and skimmed the new posts.
##unvote
##vote scott31337


seems fine to me if nobody else sees how scummy vonthin is


##Unvote
##Vote: eversince

So you think I'm scum? Have you mentioned why?


I think you could be
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October 20 2015 02:50 GMT
#761
Hi I'm drunk
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October 20 2015 05:21 GMT
#762
My drunk senses says that sicklucker is totes mafia
And that FF might be town.

Maybe
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October 20 2015 05:22 GMT
#763
My drunk senses is saying that Moosy is town

But I beg to differ

I don't see town Moosy voting with his top scumread.

Anyway the senses says he is town
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October 20 2015 05:24 GMT
#764
My drunk senses also called Vonthin mafia

And it doesn't make sense

But they called him mafia

My kynch tomorrow will be sickfucker
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October 20 2015 05:28 GMT
#765
God I drank too much
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October 20 2015 05:29 GMT
#766
Listen to mr

Lych sicklucker

You csnt go wrong
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October 20 2015 12:10 GMT
#775
Hello

My (slightly) hangover senses points out to rels being mafia.

That makes a combo of rels and sicklucker

And if you consider Moosy doosy voted with his main scum read, I would put him in the team.

But sicklucker makes more sense if he is with Eversince. I don't know.

I have a tendency to believe that wagons so close to each other always means one is mafia. Which isn't always true, but yeah, I have this tendency.

But really, rels insistence in sheeping/RNG looks so forced, I can't possibly believe he is town.
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October 20 2015 14:14 GMT
#782
On October 20 2015 22:51 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 21:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Hello

My (slightly) hangover senses points out to rels being mafia.

That makes a combo of rels and sicklucker

And if you consider Moosy doosy voted with his main scum read, I would put him in the team.

But sicklucker makes more sense if he is with Eversince. I don't know.

I have a tendency to believe that wagons so close to each other always means one is mafia. Which isn't always true, but yeah, I have this tendency.

But really, rels insistence in sheeping/RNG looks so forced, I can't possibly believe he is town.

Are you OMGUSing my RNG vote ? Fight me bro


I'm not, I'm just saying that I don't think your reaction is natural. You started the game in a similar fashion as your last scum game, by having a weak suspicion and a quick revision of that. Then you just act like "O NOES I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS WRONG LEWL I'M GONNA RNG" and it isn't trustable. Yes, you were wrong, but it just looks like you're copying Rayn's reaction in the last game. He did the exact same thing. The difference is that he has been wrong on 3 people, and for now you know you have only been wrong on one, which is pretty normal and not a reason to freak out.

TL;DR: it's forced.
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October 20 2015 14:25 GMT
#785
On October 20 2015 23:19 boxerfred wrote:
GB: "Rels's post is forced"
Rels: "GB's post is forced"

Scum having a field day. However Rels keeps himself to reasoning while GB spits out theories. Let's try to ask questions:

- how does sicklucker/Eversince make sense? Why is that? I can't replicate that.
- what exactly makes sicklucker scum if Rels is scum?

Your ideas revolve around sicklucker who is (to me) the most unreadable guy in this game.


Sicklucker scumreading lone meow and wasting his vote on him without trying to convince people to vote with him was scummy. He coming back to the thread and voting scott instead of Eversince may imply he was saving his scum partner by hammering town scott. Or he simply saw me criticising him for wasting his vote and voted one of the main wagons to look good.

My point on sicklucker is: if he really thought lone meow was mafia to the point of keeping his vote on him until the very end, he should've be trying to convince people to vote lone meow. If his scum read on lone meow wasn't that strong, he should've used his time to evaluate the main wagons instead of not caring for the lynch the major part of the day.
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October 20 2015 14:26 GMT
#786
Oh, and there is nothing to associate?

I think rels is scum for his play.
I think sicklucker is scum for his play.

That's all.
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October 20 2015 20:04 GMT
#815
Jesus Christ SL...
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#824
On October 21 2015 05:08 sicklucker wrote:
idk i saw alot of towns then he comes out with a random scum read as me. just as the guy who had me as a top town read me died.

LIKE I NEVER KILL KSC AS TOWN HERE.

1. his town game does not impress me
2. Im like pretty sure I was his top town if not i was his top 3


Why are you saying this, it's obvious you are the vigilante -.-
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October 20 2015 20:15 GMT
#843
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels


Why did you shoot LM?
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#848
On October 21 2015 05:14 sicklucker wrote:
Hes confirmed town tho... Mafia would have killed me tonight I would have flipped vt then you could have claimed after that and we would have a confirmed town for an extra day and the other pr would be more safe


If you're really VT here I can't say how stupid this was SL. I can't.

And you're listening this from a guy who is known for doing stupid things.

(Unless it is Himalayas. Himalayas was incredible play but people don't have the brains to understand how brilliant it was)
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October 20 2015 20:18 GMT
#851
On October 21 2015 05:16 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels


Why did you shoot LM?

Are you fucking voting an un CC vig in a setup where we know there is only one vig / cop.
I'm sure you'll find what you need in some post I made not long ago. And that I quoted even less long ago.


Oooooops I was going to vote SL AND question you. Instead I've put you in the vote LOLOLOLOL

##Unvote
##Vote: sicklucker
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October 20 2015 20:21 GMT
#856
On October 21 2015 05:18 Rels wrote:
Well good night. Anyone not voting SL when I wake up is his teammate in my mind. GB, do what you need.
Ignore the guy and start talking about his teammates please.


No, no.

Actually

When analysing sicklucker, FORGET THE CLAIM.

If he is mafia, this is a suicidal move. Which would make him town after all.
However, this may be exactly what sicklucker was after.

In other words, deciding if sicklucker is town or
Mafia based on the claim will have you basing your reasoning in WIFOM.
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#859
On October 21 2015 05:20 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 05:18 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 21 2015 05:16 Rels wrote:
On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels


Why did you shoot LM?

Are you fucking voting an un CC vig in a setup where we know there is only one vig / cop.
I'm sure you'll find what you need in some post I made not long ago. And that I quoted even less long ago.


Oooooops I was going to vote SL AND question you. Instead I've put you in the vote LOLOLOLOL

##Unvote
##Vote: sicklucker

That's not true. Your post is:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels


Why did you shoot LM?


If you wanted to vote SL, your post would be:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: sicklucker


Why did you shoot LM?

So the question is not addressed on me anymore. You are scum.


Rels, I was with your name in my mind because I was going to direct you a question. I wrote yours instead of sickluckers and that's all. ADHD.

Are you really calling me scum for this?
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#862
On October 21 2015 05:22 sicklucker wrote:
to the newbs claiming a dead role (at first as a joke) and then as a why the hell not ill draw the nk.

Theres no way I do this as mafia theres no strategic advantage to draw out the veg cc. If i claimed cop sure but the veg is a dead role.

RELS HOW DO YOU THINK IM MAFIA HERE. i told you not to make an even better claim last game because it put you and moosy in a deadlock where one of you is always scum. I would never do this as scum and you know it your blowing my mind right now please dont leave im going to convince your moron ass


That's the thing, SL
It will automatically put you in a deadlock. In this case, you are going to die because you did what you did.

It's what I said, really. You could really be town role swapping, or you could be mafia trying to look you're town role swapping.

Which makes your claim a shit argument to decide if I should vote you or not.
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#867
On October 21 2015 05:28 boxerfred wrote:
thing is, why would scum fakeclaim a vig if the vig already shot? it just doesn't make sense to me. you'd exchange a scum member vs. a named town. not sure if I'm willing to jump on sicklucker here especially since others (namely shining and fecalfeast) managed to stay under everyone's radar.


Exactly. That's why I'm telling everyone to not consider SL's claim when analysing if he is scun or not. He could've done it regardless of alignment
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October 20 2015 20:31 GMT
#869
On October 21 2015 05:28 sicklucker wrote:
which i instantly rescinded *


It doesn't matter, you could've done it as any alignment.

I'm voting you because of your lackluster push on lone meow and because drunk bear said so. He can't be wrong.
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October 20 2015 20:37 GMT
#874
On October 21 2015 05:33 boxerfred wrote:
how about we drop the rels/sl stuff because I start thinking both are town and either follow the first scumreads (mainly eversince) or look into people that dropped kinda under the radar (ff/shining/vonthin)? Or, we set up some tinfoil theory about farah? though I still think we can do an associative read between farah/eversince since she made that D1 case on him which was strong.


SL is still a scum read of mine. So no
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#875
On October 21 2015 05:33 boxerfred wrote:
how about we drop the rels/sl stuff because I start thinking both are town and either follow the first scumreads (mainly eversince) or look into people that dropped kinda under the radar (ff/shining/vonthin)? Or, we set up some tinfoil theory about farah? though I still think we can do an associative read between farah/eversince since she made that D1 case on him which was strong.


What?????
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#881
On October 21 2015 05:41 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 05:40 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 21 2015 05:33 boxerfred wrote:
how about we drop the rels/sl stuff because I start thinking both are town and either follow the first scumreads (mainly eversince) or look into people that dropped kinda under the radar (ff/shining/vonthin)? Or, we set up some tinfoil theory about farah? though I still think we can do an associative read between farah/eversince since she made that D1 case on him which was strong.


What?????

read the following sentence. Eversince flip as scum will confirm farah as town. Everything else can be tinfoilhatted into oblivion.


But why do you suggest we tinfoil things???? I mean, it doesn't make sense
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October 20 2015 21:01 GMT
#889
The fact that you're only commenting about this now makes me think you're mafia
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#909
On October 19 2015 20:32 KelsierSC wrote:
well there wasn't that much to catch up on really so I'm going to post where i'm at.

starting with the most important part, scum reads

Moosy - His spammy opening was no good and the feeling I got from the entire opening exchange was that mafia was in there. I'm not going to repeat the whole line of questioning about vonthing but it showed he was just spamming and asking questions for the sake of it with no real care for the answer, he hasn't returned to do anything since that point. I'm still waiting on a few things but he is scum right now

scott31337 This is two fold really, I think Rels caught him out first with how he interacted with moosy , how he pretended he knew it was a joke. The second part is on his return he didn't actually clarify that point and talked about something else and then disappeared, once again i'm waiting on his return but it looks like lack of interest/reading.

eversince I mean...perhaps I am biased in this case. His "catch up" entrance to the thread was with a point about shinings opening post. Then he got into ff about not explaining reads. After that he moves onto me, calls me the lync says i'm mucking up the thread and then after deciding i'm scum he then produces the case on me, I think I provided a decent refutation to that case and after that he just disappeared.
To me it seemed his entrance was picking on some random people and then jumping on the leading lynch target but it showed he hadn't really read the thread properly. Furthermore his case felt like he called me scum then read my filter and had to find things to call me scummy.

I'd lynch either of these 3 right now.

In the next tier of players who I don't like/scum lean

vonthin - started off as a townlean for me but he has really fallen off, hasn't posted anything since his list pos It seems to be based mostly on the start of the game and who shit posted the most , with things moving on he really needs to do something.




lonemeow - I agree with what boxerfred said really and his play has just been nothing so far

I have some people who I think are town but not too many, you guys are sort of lazy

Rels I like the points on scott, I think he's been active and sensible so far. In general I like the way Rels posts but yeh i'm calling him town

farah newbie willing to engage and give thoughts. probably town

SL calling him town and moving on

then a few people who are like town leaning but it's not really based on too much

GB - like I got mad at him but I seem to do that all the time and it's best to step back a bit. Lot of people think he's sort of town and he was trying to be relatively serious. I'm waiting to see what he does as we near deadline.

FF - I liked his attitude coming in but he hasn't posted that much

BF - liked some of his posts, probably should post more

Shining - Can't really see any malicious agenda behind his questioning.

That's what i'm thinking, if I missed you off then you are probably scum.


Kelsier last list post. Reminding that he brought strong suspicions on Eversince.

Farah can you explain to me what on Eversince made you think he is town?
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October 21 2015 09:38 GMT
#926
FF, I didn't have a scumread on you. I thought you could be scum. It could mean you were trying to hammer scott. So I voted Eversince.

It would also make more clear for further VCA when the wagons got the same numbers of voters. If Eversince is scum then mafia surely needed to hammer scott.

And to be fair the fact that you took the effort probably means you're town.
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October 21 2015 09:56 GMT
#928
On October 21 2015 18:51 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2015 18:38 GlowingBear wrote:
And to be fair the fact that you took the effort probably means you're town.

How sure are you of that fact ? I checked FF's meta, and 3 mafia games out of 4 he had a gigantic filter with a lot of trash in it. So it's pretty different from this game obviously.


I've played games with him before and for what I remember he is pretty effortless, especially if he isn't on the chopping block.

The fact that he built a case on me when nothing was happening makes him very townie to my eyes.

I must say I'm having a fairly bad time at reading the newbies.

I won't change my vote today, my best bet on scum is on SL considering his gameplay only. Also the fact that one confirmed town (two, because I'm confirmed town to me) and no other people jumped on his wagon makes it really suspicious. I'd expect mafia to push his wagon.
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October 21 2015 14:56 GMT
#932
On October 21 2015 13:09 FarahBlackwing wrote:
So von and sicklucker are super dumb telling I think is the phase.

Which is sorta good because I want to eliminate von from the pool now.


Sorry, is this your first mafia game?
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October 21 2015 15:21 GMT
#935
On October 22 2015 00:16 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Already have given my reasoning on town reading shining.

And yes this is my first mafia game.


When did you get to learn this term "dumb tell"?
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#938
On October 22 2015 00:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
After my initial question(about busses) I looked up terms/items to have a better understanding of some things so I didn't clutter the thread and asked questions. That's where I got the terms dumb tells/omgus and a few others.


Can you link me to the place you found it?
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#950
Farah can you link me the place where you got the information?
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#959
On October 22 2015 00:57 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I already did GlowingBear


Fair enough
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October 21 2015 16:37 GMT
#967
On October 22 2015 01:34 Rels wrote:
RIGHT ?


LOLOLOLOLOL
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October 21 2015 16:38 GMT
#968
I want every people who isn't reading sicklucker as scum to tell me what makes him town EXCEPT the claim.
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#973
On October 22 2015 01:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 01:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Moos why were you so against lynching ever yesterday to the point of misrepresenting me. And today you are super onboard when nothing changed from yesterday

I care about ~30% for this game up from the small 8% or so that I had. I also had just ignored Ever's big posts until I gave a go through her filter.


Let me help you then

##Unvote
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#979
On October 22 2015 03:49 Eversince wrote:
Glowing when I couldn't wrap my head around the Sick claim yesterday I was giving mafia vibes to you.
Rels reiterates basically what I was pondering to the note why not pick at him?


It's not about WHAT you said, it is about the initial disinterest you had on the claim.

I mean, there was a claim AND a counter claim but instead of dropping any discussion you were having to give thoughts about it, you kept pushing Boxerfred. I would expect a townie to immediately react to the claims. Unless you know both their alignmebts, so it is disinteresting
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October 21 2015 19:00 GMT
#983
On October 22 2015 03:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think it's cute how boxerfred thinks that I care if I'm lynched or that his vote is supposed to pressure. lol.


No it's cute that you keep scumreading him even after you voted WITH him last day
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October 21 2015 19:00 GMT
#984
On October 22 2015 03:59 Eversince wrote:
You found that mafia telling but Rels just posted where I ended up last night in his post and it's ok?


Rels counter claimed and voted sicklucker, dude. He immediately reacted to it
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October 21 2015 19:12 GMT
#987
Wow.

Something just crossed my mind.

Game is pretty solvable. But I can't share it with thread until day3
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October 22 2015 00:06 GMT
#1037
SL if you're the veteran you claim right now.
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October 22 2015 00:16 GMT
#1046
On October 22 2015 09:11 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 09:06 GlowingBear wrote:
SL if you're the veteran you claim right now.


lol no i wouldnt


Are you veteran or not? You don't risk being shot anytime soon and you're wasting this day with useless discussion.

Instead you can turn into confirmed town and survive until LYLO if you're the veteran. Mafia WILL have to waste a shot on you anyway.
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October 22 2015 00:17 GMT
#1048
Nevermind i just read the OP and the best is roleblockable
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October 22 2015 00:30 GMT
#1057
On October 22 2015 09:23 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 04:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Wow.

Something just crossed my mind.

Game is pretty solvable. But I can't share it with thread until day3


explain this or i might tunnel you because its the only remotely townie thing I can find on you


There is a guy who thought you could be the veteran trying to take a shot. If you're actually the veteran, it could be TMI since mafia team knows the setup. Also, that thing that I said about the veteran surviving for longer times.

I just thought I should talk about this later but I don't care.

There is a confirned townie talking about you and a confirmed townie to me (myself) wasting his time trying to figure you out.

You're 100% being roleblocked and killed if you're he veteran. You're role is useless now unless for confirming yourself.

So, again: are you the veteran?
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October 22 2015 00:35 GMT
#1067
On October 22 2015 09:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Like what if we have doctor? Telling people to claim vet is so bad wtf do you know that there's a vet gb?


IF he is the veteran, he should claim now.

Dude if he is the veteran there is no doctor, we save discussion now.

He CAN'T be any other role because there is no way he try to take a bullet as another power role
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October 22 2015 00:36 GMT
#1070
On October 22 2015 09:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
fuck that's such a dumb play GB, if we do have a vet and you force them to claim, we lose any wifom power we have over scum, if we have a doctor, scum knows it and would love to claim vet so doctor will CC


I'M NOT ASKING SL TO FAKE CLAIM???

AND I'M NOT ASKING COUNTER CLAIMS???

JESUS CHRIST
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October 22 2015 00:38 GMT
#1071
On October 22 2015 09:36 sicklucker wrote:
Gb if your the cop or the vet your not making it obvious to mafia at all


Rels claimed he shot lonemeow dude

Just answer this: are you the veteran or not?
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October 22 2015 00:43 GMT
#1077
I KNOOOOOOOW

BUT IF HE WAS VET HE WOULD CLEAR HIMSELF

SIMPLY AS THAT

JESUS
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October 22 2015 00:53 GMT
#1090
On October 22 2015 09:49 The Shining wrote:
SL why can't GB be scum with ES?

He voted Scott, said he did not want to and was not interested in lynching ES, unvotes, votes SL, tells Farrah he doesn't have time to read her case on ES, tells LM he's town and to vote SL(TMI), then votes ES which he refused to do just to not vote with his scumread in FF? When FF asked him to give him reasons, he said he thinks he could be scum. Then he's gone until he comes back drunk in night phase.

Looks hella scummy to me. He waited until Scott was in the lead to put his vote on ES.


If you think sicklucker is town, you're saying I risked having my partner killed because lonemeow and SL weren't voting scott and could put Eversince in majority.
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October 22 2015 01:00 GMT
#1095
Ok SL I'm flipping my read again, your latest posts have a town vibe on them.

Your reaction to Eversince looks genuine
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October 22 2015 03:48 GMT
#1153
On October 22 2015 10:11 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 10:09 sicklucker wrote:
On October 22 2015 10:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 22 2015 10:01 sicklucker wrote:
FF do you not think gb is town for his angle here? I know its frustrating as hell tho

Mnneeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh I hate it so muc hthough


well now that gb cant tunnel on me anymore he will have a chance to show some things i hope


Well its a good thing he effortlessly decided you're townie now and missed my post scumming him for EoD. Inb4 I get OMGUSd by GB


Nah I'm killing Moosy 100% today

And I think I've addressed to your post?
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October 22 2015 14:11 GMT
#1175
What????

FF you said sicklucker was town ever since he claimed. You didn't even admitted a discussion on that

Why are you voting him?
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October 22 2015 14:35 GMT
#1178
On October 22 2015 23:17 Rels wrote:
GB am I tunneling or is SL really similar to his mafia game and really different from his town game ?


You could be right on SL. The thing is that he presented some townie posts in his filter that is giving me pause. There are better people to look after today IMO. If you want to see if you're TUNNELED, forget the claim and try to read SL coming from a townie perspective. See if it makes sense.

To be fair, I am voting Moosy doosy but FF looks terrible.

He called SL town ALL DAY.
Made a case on ME.
Never votes me.

Agrees with SL that I can be coming from town angle (not without hesitation)
Then agrees with a team where sicklucker and Moosy are mafia (he is town reading SL)
Moosy is the main wagon
He votes SL.

WHAAAAAT?
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October 22 2015 14:40 GMT
#1180
I think your case is a little flawed because yes, he did the same thing last game as mafia, but a "meta" case must prove not only that he does that stuff as mafia, but that he CAN'T or NEVER do that stuff as town.
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October 22 2015 14:42 GMT
#1181
On October 22 2015 23:39 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 23:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 22 2015 23:17 Rels wrote:
GB am I tunneling or is SL really similar to his mafia game and really different from his town game ?


You could be right on SL. The thing is that he presented some townie posts in his filter that is giving me pause. There are better people to look after today IMO. If you want to see if you're TUNNELED, forget the claim and try to read SL coming from a townie perspective. See if it makes sense.

It does. Except at EOD1. And I know SL is super strong at making seems like he's coming from a town perspective, I've played with him.
At EOD1, he was playing his scum game, as demonstrated above.


I agree with you, Rels. And I find hard that drunk bear is wrong.

But look at Moosy doosy and FF. Especially what I just said. Don't you think they have scummier traits?
I mean, your strong scum read on him started with the counter claim. Before that, I presume you had a weaker read
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October 22 2015 14:48 GMT
#1184
On October 22 2015 23:45 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 23:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I think your case is a little flawed because yes, he did the same thing last game as mafia, but a "meta" case must prove not only that he does that stuff as mafia, but that he CAN'T or NEVER do that stuff as town.

The thing is, it's not a meta case to begin with. How he played EOD1 was scummy. Thinking the two main wagons were not likely to be mafia, having a scumread; but not pushing it.

The townie way to play that wuold be to defend your townreads and push your scumread.

It only starts to be meta after that, because he was in kinda the same situation the last two games he played:
- as mafia he did the same thing
- as town he did not do the same thing; in fact, he reacted the town way described above


Did he never do that as town? I'm not sure. I've done that as town once.

Ok I will read your case thoroughlly and comment point by point. What do you think of what I said about FF?
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October 22 2015 15:11 GMT
#1189
So vote Moosy doosy today?
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October 22 2015 15:20 GMT
#1193
On October 23 2015 00:14 Rels wrote:
What do you think of the meta stuff above ?


I think it's weak. I usually don't like meta. Most of the meta cases I've seen in these forums were wrong.

If FF is self aware of that meta, he can fake it anytime. I will never accept a meta over a clearly scummy post.

I simply don't see a townie saying "SL is town, Occam's razor" then when you post a team with him he says "ok good team" and instead voting a suspicious guy that is the main wagon AND part of the team he said it was good (Moosy), he votes his town read (SL).
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October 22 2015 15:22 GMT
#1194
Like, Rels, if HTS explicitly says being spammy is FF's mafia meta, he just needs to not spam. Then he is townread because he is lazy. Which is the easiest thing to do as mafia.

+ HtS said FF usually lacks direction and it is clearly what he is doing here
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#1201
On October 23 2015 00:39 Rels wrote:
GB can you check FF's read of BF progression ? Why did he drop it like that ? Did BF post something between the scumread and the drop ? If you don't have time I'll do it tonight.


I'm phone posting now. I may have time later.

Anyway I don't remember his interactions with boxerfred...
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October 22 2015 17:19 GMT
#1207
On October 23 2015 02:16 Rels wrote:
Something is wrong with this game.


Yes. Too many townies not trying.
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#1209
On October 23 2015 02:19 Rels wrote:
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On October 23 2015 02:02 Blazinghand wrote:
LF 1 replacement for student mafia XVI

This time I checked the fucking replacement thread at least.


It was when Moosy first disappeared. I thought he was going to be replaced.
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October 22 2015 17:26 GMT
#1211
On October 23 2015 02:21 Rels wrote:
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On October 23 2015 02:21 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 02:19 Rels wrote:
On October 23 2015 02:02 Blazinghand wrote:
LF 1 replacement for student mafia XVI

This time I checked the fucking replacement thread at least.


It was when Moosy first disappeared. I thought he was going to be replaced.

No it was 17 minutes ago.


Oh, again.

I think it's not that important, tho.

Like, I'm really comfortable with lynching Moosy. He voted with his main scumread on day1, he's been useless, he was also Kelsier's scum read and Kelsier is dead.

I have plenty of reasons to lynch him today. Atrocious play like that can't be forgiven.
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October 22 2015 17:31 GMT
#1214
Rels, listen. I'm not dismissing ANYTHING you have said here. Since you're confirmed town I am totally prone to listen to you.

Let's bounce some ideas.

Who are you townreading at the moment or at least you have seen town traits?
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October 22 2015 17:53 GMT
#1224
FF give me a reason why Moosy shouldn't be the lynch today.
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October 22 2015 18:00 GMT
#1229
Rels is there any player thsr Moosy CAN'T be mafia outside the townreads you just gave?
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#1232
On October 23 2015 03:00 Rels wrote:
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On October 23 2015 02:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 23 2015 02:56 Rels wrote:
FF what happened to BF being scum ?

Sadly, the honest answer is i forgot about him. This is a common phenomenon among those who partake.

No. Townies do not forget their scumreads. He was one of your two scumreads. He answered directly to you, saying he would answer your question later and didn't.
Find me a town game where you forgot about a scumread please. Quotes would be appreciated.


I 100% agree with this.
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October 22 2015 18:20 GMT
#1245
FF, what Rels is trying to say, and I agree with him, is that if you have suspicions enough to make quotations and shit, you don't forget about your reads.

And that's what you did here. Twice. Against me and against boxerfred. You made "cases" against both d us, then proceeded to vote other people. Especially today, you voted SL, who you had a town read.

You don't follow your own reads dude.
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October 22 2015 18:23 GMT
#1251
On October 23 2015 03:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:
FF, what Rels is trying to say, and I agree with him, is that if you have suspicions enough to make quotations and shit, you don't forget about your reads.

And that's what you did here. Twice. Against me and against boxerfred. You made "cases" against both d us, then proceeded to vote other people. Especially today, you voted SL, who you had a town read.

You don't follow your own reads dude.

I. Am. Aware. That. I. May. Be. Wrong.


It's not about being aware of being wrong, FF. Being aware of being wrong is to see new information in thread and react to it. It isn't forgetting people.

Even if you are aware you could be wrong, if you're town you have to take a stance on where you stand. If you have a meta case on someone being town, you can't instantly be ok with this person in a scum team.
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October 22 2015 18:25 GMT
#1254
On October 23 2015 03:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Like this game isn't about who has the best reads, this game is about winning. People who have obviously put more effort into this game deserve to have their shit sheeped if it sounds good. I'm not going to vote my scumread if nobody else will.


But you have to show us you have being convinced by something reasonable. Because we need to see your thought process behind it.

What convinced you Vonthin could be mafia?
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October 22 2015 18:28 GMT
#1258
On October 23 2015 03:26 Eversince wrote:
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On October 23 2015 03:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 03:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Like this game isn't about who has the best reads, this game is about winning. People who have obviously put more effort into this game deserve to have their shit sheeped if it sounds good. I'm not going to vote my scumread if nobody else will.


But you have to show us you have being convinced by something reasonable. Because we need to see your thought process behind it.

What convinced you Vonthin could be mafia?


Oh the bells! I like you Glowing. I said this same thing last night.


I know. I'm adorable
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October 22 2015 18:30 GMT
#1261
On October 23 2015 03:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 03:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 03:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Like this game isn't about who has the best reads, this game is about winning. People who have obviously put more effort into this game deserve to have their shit sheeped if it sounds good. I'm not going to vote my scumread if nobody else will.


But you have to show us you have being convinced by something reasonable. Because we need to see your thought process behind it.

What convinced you Vonthin could be mafia?

Rels' team


Why does that UNFLIPPED ASSOCIATION is so strong to make you disregard the meta you trusted? What in that team makes you think "sure! That's it!"?
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October 22 2015 18:31 GMT
#1265
Why does that team makes sense to you?
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October 22 2015 18:33 GMT
#1267
On October 23 2015 03:31 boxerfred wrote:
I'm here. Almost caught up. Sorry I'm late, still moving in with my girlfriend, lots of work over the day. Actually I don't think Moosy should be the lynch here although I voted him. The reason is that in my previous game with him where he was scum, once he was under pressure, he totally exploded. He exploded so much that up until this point, I hold him for a spammy, rather bad player.

I cannot read sicklucker at all, so he's not my top lynch. But I strongly recommend lynching him before a possible LYLO situation. I think that the claim he did is not really alignment indicative but if I was to interpret something into it, I'd have to say that for scum, this would be a really bad move. I don't think sicklucker is a guy who does such bad moves. So I'd actually town lean him if you guys want to nail me on that.

Thing is that MoosyDoosy even says he wants to get lynched so it's really a cheap mislynch target for scum. That would mean that this..
Show nested quote +
GlowingBear, boxerfred, Eversince, Rels, Fecalfeast, Vonthin

..contains at least one, if not two, or even three scum members. If I consider that I think Rels is town, and I am town, I have GB/FF/VT/ES in those votes.

Now look at this:
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On October 21 2015 19:52 boxerfred wrote:
The lynch should happen in between FF/GB/ES/Shining. I think those guys have the highest chance to flip scum. Second tier lynches are MD/SL(though GB scumreads him which actually makes me rethink that)/VonThin. Don't lynch: Farah. Never lynch: Rels, boxerfred.

I liked Vonthin's answers to my questions, I already said this. That brings me down to GB/FF/ES. So let's get the hammer rolling. Since Fecalfeast tends to be active whenever under pressure and tends to do shit when disregarded, I strongly suggest to lynch him. It really feels like he's lurking a lot, posting only when necessary. And that is scum behaviour and nothing else.

##unvote ##vote FecalFeast




Wow this is shit.
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October 22 2015 18:44 GMT
#1295
On October 23 2015 03:42 Rels wrote:
I want to vote Shining.


Deja vu?

Keep on Moosy. Really.
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#1298
On October 23 2015 03:43 sicklucker wrote:
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On October 22 2015 23:11 GlowingBear wrote:
What????

FF you said sicklucker was town ever since he claimed. You didn't even admitted a discussion on that

Why are you voting him?


......


Yes?
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October 22 2015 18:45 GMT
#1301
SL, Vonthin isn't getting lynxhed today.

Who are you going to vote now?
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October 22 2015 18:53 GMT
#1315
On October 23 2015 03:52 Rels wrote:
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On October 23 2015 03:50 Rels wrote:
On October 22 2015 11:40 The Shining wrote:
Ohhhhh goodie I'm getting out of work a little early tonight. I'll be back in about an hr and a half, commute home from work and all. Bbs

I really really really want to lynch that

Unless he's getting replaced. It's him or Fara


Failure to vote usually means you get modkilled. Wait for it

And kill Moosy anyway. He is a nuisance.
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October 22 2015 18:55 GMT
#1320
On October 23 2015 03:53 sicklucker wrote:
there probably wont be a replacement its more likely a mod kill. so who do you think it is I dont want to lynch that person


Who will you vote for?
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October 22 2015 19:10 GMT
#1348
If Moosy flips mafia game is solved.
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October 22 2015 19:14 GMT
#1350
On October 23 2015 04:11 sicklucker wrote:
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On October 23 2015 04:10 GlowingBear wrote:
If Moosy flips mafia game is solved.


how so?


Because of how the voting patterns were done today,
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#1353
On October 23 2015 04:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 04:11 sicklucker wrote:
On October 23 2015 04:10 GlowingBear wrote:
If Moosy flips mafia game is solved.


how so?


Because of how the voting patterns were done today,

Well, unless you think shenanigans are imminent, give us a sample of what's to come.


No. I will wait for the flip then I'll explain
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#1358
On October 23 2015 04:27 boxerfred wrote:
gnahhhhh this is shit

I say "lets lynch moosy" then I say "ok he might not be scum but lets lynch him because he's spammy" he stops being spammy, completely plays against his scum meta, I say "dont lynch the guy" and you lynch the guy. This is way too fucking easy to not be a town wagon there's literally no scum member that is not fine with that lynch. guys. seriously.


There isn't a thing called "meta" for a guy that rolled scum only once
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October 22 2015 19:39 GMT
#1367
On October 23 2015 04:38 Rels wrote:
So Moosy asked for a replacement.


I smell shenanigans?
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October 22 2015 19:51 GMT
#1397
I'm not changing my vote.
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#1398
AND YOU SHOULDN'T EITHER
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October 22 2015 20:03 GMT
#1430
On October 23 2015 05:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 03:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Hi guys, can I be the third lurker coming out of the wood?

why did he fucking post that. It's the reason everybody stayed on him


The "play to win" isn't a rule anymore, I suppose
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October 22 2015 20:04 GMT
#1433
On October 23 2015 05:02 Rels wrote:
Vonthin is scum then. At least that's one people.


Why?
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October 22 2015 20:06 GMT
#1437
On October 23 2015 05:04 Rels wrote:
Vonthin / FF / ??


Boxerfred. TMI on Moosy being town but not really trying to shift the lynch.
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October 23 2015 00:27 GMT
#1490
On October 23 2015 05:22 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
gg~~

was fairly obvious I'm town lmao.


ya when you didnt defend yourself when people are trying to lynch you so obv.

(it was obv but you have no right to say that)


If it was so obvious why not push someone else???
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October 23 2015 00:40 GMT
#1497
On October 23 2015 09:29 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 09:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:22 sicklucker wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
gg~~

was fairly obvious I'm town lmao.


ya when you didnt defend yourself when people are trying to lynch you so obv.

(it was obv but you have no right to say that)


If it was so obvious why not push someone else???


I DID LOL


No, you didn't! You wanted to create a second wagon. But you had NO SCUM you pushed. Not fucking one. Like, fucking TRY TO CONVINCE PEOPLE INTO VOTING SOMEONE ELSE, like Rels did.
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October 23 2015 00:44 GMT
#1500
On October 23 2015 09:41 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 09:40 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 09:29 sicklucker wrote:
On October 23 2015 09:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:22 sicklucker wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
gg~~

was fairly obvious I'm town lmao.


ya when you didnt defend yourself when people are trying to lynch you so obv.

(it was obv but you have no right to say that)


If it was so obvious why not push someone else???


I DID LOL


No, you didn't! You wanted to create a second wagon. But you had NO SCUM you pushed. Not fucking one. Like, fucking TRY TO CONVINCE PEOPLE INTO VOTING SOMEONE ELSE, like Rels did.


i said i did but it was too late. go read I looked to see if there was any interest I got only like 1 person


You didn't TRY man. If the guy was obvious town to you, you scream your lungs out. Not like that, SL.
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October 23 2015 01:14 GMT
#1505
On October 23 2015 09:46 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:39 sicklucker wrote:
vonthin anyone?


heres me asking people to switch

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
Ya i just dont think moosys every scum here. im back and forth but too many easy votes too inactive


Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:58 sicklucker wrote:
your all weinnies I tried


my replie to farah wanting to keep her vote

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:49 sicklucker wrote:
On October 23 2015 04:48 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Meh better to just stay


loser talk


heres me asking if we have enough votes

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:50 sicklucker wrote:
we need 4-5 votes minimum



HERES YOU RESISTING ME

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On October 23 2015 04:51 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not changing my vote.


Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:51 GlowingBear wrote:
AND YOU SHOULDN'T EITHER


your like acualy asking me not to start shennanies here how can you say i didnt try

so stfu gb your the worst sometimes man...


Yes, I resisted you! And yes, I'm not saying you didn't post against his lynch, but YOU VOTED HIM ANYWAYS instead of screaming your lungs out man. Like, if I think a mislynch is occuring I will shit the whole thread to keep the guy from being lynched. And here you were "hey, I'm back and forth" or "oh vote with me! No? ok :/"
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October 23 2015 01:15 GMT
#1506
On October 23 2015 09:56 sicklucker wrote:
anyway I just spent over 1 hour rereading the entire thread and giving my thoughts and all you can do is nitpick about if i did or did not try hard enough to change a lynch that was going to happen anyway.

fucking good shit bro. good shit to comment on very town productive how do you feel about my reads?


I don't know, I haven't read them. This game is giving me headaches.
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October 23 2015 01:50 GMT
#1510
On October 23 2015 10:17 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 10:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 09:46 sicklucker wrote:
On October 23 2015 04:39 sicklucker wrote:
vonthin anyone?


heres me asking people to switch

On October 23 2015 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
Ya i just dont think moosys every scum here. im back and forth but too many easy votes too inactive


On October 23 2015 04:58 sicklucker wrote:
your all weinnies I tried


my replie to farah wanting to keep her vote

On October 23 2015 04:49 sicklucker wrote:
On October 23 2015 04:48 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Meh better to just stay


loser talk


heres me asking if we have enough votes

On October 23 2015 04:50 sicklucker wrote:
we need 4-5 votes minimum



HERES YOU RESISTING ME

On October 23 2015 04:51 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not changing my vote.


On October 23 2015 04:51 GlowingBear wrote:
AND YOU SHOULDN'T EITHER


your like acualy asking me not to start shennanies here how can you say i didnt try

so stfu gb your the worst sometimes man...


Yes, I resisted you! And yes, I'm not saying you didn't post against his lynch, but YOU VOTED HIM ANYWAYS instead of screaming your lungs out man. Like, if I think a mislynch is occuring I will shit the whole thread to keep the guy from being lynched. And here you were "hey, I'm back and forth" or "oh vote with me! No? ok :/"


well im not you im a sensible human being who has alot of games under his belt now. maybe I did that shit in my first few games


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October 23 2015 14:27 GMT
#1570
Rels I'll just sheep you at this point.

I want to kill everyone in this game and I won't re read it. I won't be of any use for town.
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October 24 2015 02:38 GMT
#1690
Hi. I'm back.
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October 24 2015 15:28 GMT
#1731
Calm down, folks. It's just a game where people that don't know aligbments will eventually call you mafia.
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October 24 2015 17:13 GMT
#1745
I'll sheep you Rels. I'm burned out and I have no motivation to put more effort here. I'll whoever you want to lynch today
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October 24 2015 18:32 GMT
#1768
Rels I don't think farah is mafia by the way.

Voting me would be the path of least resistance. Instead she is trying to push Vonthin and this push seems okay.

I also think boxerfred might be town for his effort into having me lynched.

I really believe FF should be the lynch today. What do you think?
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October 24 2015 18:38 GMT
#1769
In fact, a mafia team of FF Shining and Vonthin is very plausible
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October 24 2015 19:12 GMT
#1772
On October 25 2015 03:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
GB, do you have reasoning for your read on me that is any more developed than before? Have you read the thread? Why did you decide to play after deciding not to play more than once? I hate farah getting all buttmad over a game of mafia but she is new and it does happen.


I can't stand reading the thread, but that doesn't mean I won't try to play.

I didn't develop my read on you further. It's just that you seem to comfortable with the lynch now, plus that thing where you scum read me but never stick to it. You made cases but sheeped people, mostly. And I find it scummy
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October 24 2015 19:21 GMT
#1774
On October 25 2015 04:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
Yeah my vote is in a good place


It's not. It's on a townie.
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October 25 2015 00:13 GMT
#1803
On October 25 2015 09:02 Rels wrote:
Ok literally every person except me is under suspicion, and the only reason I'm not with how bad my reads were this game is because I'm a role.

But there are also a lot of people that cannot be scum together.

SO.

You. Yes you, reading this right now. If you are vet / doc, claim in your next post.

Them we evaluate from there.


Claiming is unnecessary. Don't listen to this guy.

Rels, doctor is very powerful with you alive here. They are always shooting outside you.

If the doctor is in imminent lynch, he will claim. If not, it's unnecessary.
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October 25 2015 01:45 GMT
#1827
On October 25 2015 09:26 Rels wrote:
OK. Pretty sure Fara is scum though. Well, I hope people respond to that while I sleep.

##Unvote
##Vote GlowingBear


Good night folks (=


I'm not mafia

Nor is Farah.
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October 25 2015 06:38 GMT
#1834
On October 25 2015 10:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 10:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 25 2015 09:26 Rels wrote:
OK. Pretty sure Fara is scum though. Well, I hope people respond to that while I sleep.

##Unvote
##Vote GlowingBear


Good night folks (=


I'm not mafia

Nor is Farah.

Who IS mafia GB?

You haven't even been reading


Yes

I had you on the scum team.

Vonthin may be mafia. Deunk bear can't be wrong twice
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October 25 2015 08:17 GMT
#1838
On October 25 2015 16:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
##unvote
##vote glowingbear


FF I'm not mafia.

I will tell you a world where I'm mafia.

If I'm mafia here I'm being bussed 100% of the times so my buddies can get towncred for later days. It's triple MYLO after all. You also have to believe I'm telling you guys I'm not reading the game not because I'm being sincere, but because I WANT to be scum read.

That's the only world where I'm mafia. And to be honest, considering the two confirmed townies are voting me, it is obviously not the case
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October 25 2015 16:36 GMT
#1866
On October 26 2015 01:33 FarahBlackwing wrote:
The funny thing is I'm not jumping on boxer because it's the wrong play lol.

His claim is obviously false but it is what it is.

And I'm probably to harsh on rels, which I apologize for. But you do have a tunnel problem that the slightest thing make you initiate and ignores everything else.


Sorry, explain this? Why do you think it's false and why not voting him if it is?
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October 25 2015 16:56 GMT
#1875
This game is hard.

I had a lot of scenarios in mind, but they are all looking like wifom.

I think that the problem with boxerfred's claim is that if he thinks FF is obvious mafia he is always going o reevaluate his read on me.
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October 25 2015 16:58 GMT
#1876
On October 26 2015 01:55 Vonthin wrote:
There is no reason for the doctor to counter role claim in this situation. If you really are the doctor and we end up lynching FF then scum just kill you at night and they will most likely win after that. FF is town even without the claim, he has been playing the game and making good reads. You have been scumming it up for the whole game.

Also ES you have been just counter tunneling Farah the whole game so I don't know how you can say that lol

Farahs point is correct about lynching the RB but I think the chances are just as good for GB to be the RB as ES


Dude if we MISLYNCH today the game is over
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October 25 2015 17:02 GMT
#1878
##Unvote
##Vote: boxerfred


We lynch obvious scum today 100% of the times.

I'm sorry Farah, but there is the possibility that BF was just going to the easy win (cc'ing) instead of trying to protect the roleblocker
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October 25 2015 17:11 GMT
#1883
On October 26 2015 02:05 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 02:02 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: boxerfred


We lynch obvious scum today 100% of the times.

I'm sorry Farah, but there is the possibility that BF was just going to the easy win (cc'ing) instead of trying to protect the roleblocker

that vote confirms you as scum but why would you care since with my death, the game is lost for town. ggs


No it doesn't confirm me as nothing.

The problem isn't your counter claim per se, but the scenarios you bring with it. Instead of just pushing FF, you make a team where I'm still scum. And I've been almost the only one scum reading FF the entire game.
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October 25 2015 17:17 GMT
#1885
On October 26 2015 02:08 FarahBlackwing wrote:
He never reevaluated anything about you gb.

Well he's scum but I'll keep my vote here idc about "cred" I'm on the right lynch.


Listen.

In my mind, the one very tired of this game, the scum team is Vonthin, Shining and Boxerfred. I have yet to believe Eversince is mafia. If he is mafia, then take out The Shining.

I understand what you told me about Eversince being the Roleblocker and boxerfred sacrificing himself to protect him.

But think of it this way: if you're madia and you have 3 of you alive, wouldn't you risk fake counter claiming so you can get an easy win? In this scenario, there is no "protection". Just a guy trying to win.

If there is this possibility here, then the grounds to read Eversince as the roleblocker falls apart, don't you think?
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October 25 2015 17:19 GMT
#1887
On October 26 2015 02:15 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 02:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2015 02:05 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2015 02:02 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: boxerfred


We lynch obvious scum today 100% of the times.

I'm sorry Farah, but there is the possibility that BF was just going to the easy win (cc'ing) instead of trying to protect the roleblocker

that vote confirms you as scum but why would you care since with my death, the game is lost for town. ggs


No it doesn't confirm me as nothing.

The problem isn't your counter claim per se, but the scenarios you bring with it. Instead of just pushing FF, you make a team where I'm still scum. And I've been almost the only one scum reading FF the entire game.

So if that scenario only brings up scenarios where I'm scum, why do it in the first place when I could just sit back? Either I am doing a dumb af scum move or FF has done a strong af scum move.


You move isn't dumb. It's just not well done.

If you claimed and went against FF, that would be ok. But you came with all these theories and didn't even reevaluate your reads with the confirmed scum. You've ADAPTED your reads to him. Which is different.

Who did you protect night 1?
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 17:21 GMT
#1888
On October 26 2015 02:19 boxerfred wrote:
Also youre a yolo lurker this game so why wouldnt you Not be capable to scumread ff? Also if you scumread him all game, why stop now Oo. I can be wrong on you ffs.


Because my top townies are scum reading you and you claim post was full of bs IMO
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October 25 2015 18:16 GMT
#1898
On October 26 2015 03:14 boxerfred wrote:
Youre whole point is made up. I chose to protect you night One because i liked your case on es at that time. Also youre now doing the same thing you just said Rels would be doing. Rels, vote ff or be the worst confirmed town ever. Please reevaluate him at least.


Cool, but, why are you not voting FF?
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 18:23 GMT
#1900
On October 26 2015 03:17 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Boxer just said I was town.

That's good at least.


He said you were town on day1.
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 18:23 GMT
#1901
I see no world where Vonthin isn't mafia
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October 25 2015 18:47 GMT
#1904
On October 26 2015 03:46 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 03:16 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2015 03:14 boxerfred wrote:
Youre whole point is made up. I chose to protect you night One because i liked your case on es at that time. Also youre now doing the same thing you just said Rels would be doing. Rels, vote ff or be the worst confirmed town ever. Please reevaluate him at least.


Cool, but, why are you not voting FF?

err, I am voting him?


Check the latest votecount
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 19:19 GMT
#1917
Let me ask you guys a question. A nice one.

If the setup is veteran and vigi, why does mafia shoot SL instead of Rels?
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 19:26 GMT
#1921
On October 24 2015 05:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
So we sheep sl's reads then?

Weird, rels, seems you're wrong. Or we have a medic.

I'm trying to imagine a world where the real vigi hasn't CC'd rels and it's just not possible.


##Unvote
##Vote: Fecalfeast
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October 25 2015 19:28 GMT
#1923
On October 26 2015 04:24 Vonthin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 04:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Let me ask you guys a question. A nice one.

If the setup is veteran and vigi, why does mafia shoot SL instead of Rels?


SLs main scum reads were myself and Farah who are both town. Killing SL will give the scum more ammo to lynch us today so they can win the game.


No. Killing SL is a medic dodge.

+ if FF was the real veteran he would never consider a medic dodge.
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 19:30 GMT
#1925
FF Vonthin and Shining would be such a wonderful mafia team.
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October 25 2015 19:31 GMT
#1930
HAHA yeah FF. Not that you screwed up.
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October 25 2015 19:32 GMT
#1933
On October 26 2015 04:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2015 04:24 Vonthin wrote:
On October 26 2015 04:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Let me ask you guys a question. A nice one.

If the setup is veteran and vigi, why does mafia shoot SL instead of Rels?


SLs main scum reads were myself and Farah who are both town. Killing SL will give the scum more ammo to lynch us today so they can win the game.


No. Killing SL is a medic dodge.

+ if FF was the real veteran he would never consider a medic dodge.

Or I'm trying not to TELL MAFIA that I'm the vet lol


Sure!

Like when you claimed vet!!!!

Shhhhh! Don't let them know!
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October 25 2015 19:36 GMT
#1936
People:

1) If the setup is known by the mafia and mafia knows there is a veteran, SL is never shot. SL is clearly a medic dodge.

2) If FF is the veteran he would (A) not consider SL was a medic dodge and (B) know that SL's reads aren't sheepable because mafia could be trying to WIFOM town.
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October 25 2015 19:38 GMT
#1940
+ you never scum read SL for the role swap when he said he could be veteran also ROFL if you are the veteran you are 100% AT LEAST suspecting him.
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 19:41 GMT
#1944
On October 26 2015 04:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
No your wrong gb.

##unvote
##Vote boxerfred


No, I'm 100% right.

Why would be FF so worried about mafia not knowing his role to the point of saying "duh it was a medic dodge" and confuse town? AT DAY?
If he was the veteran he would never been considering it even if it was just for hiding. And hiding is a lie since he claimed today.

It makes no sense.
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 19:44 GMT
#1950
On October 26 2015 04:42 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I 100% believe fecal feast over boxer. Nothing makes sense from boxer it does from ff.


My god, Farah. It makes a lot of sense!

If there is a veteran, why isn't Rels dead? Instead there was a clear medic dodge!!!!!!

Tell me why FF would ever consider a medic dodge if he is the veteran????
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 19:46 GMT
#1954
On October 26 2015 04:44 Vonthin wrote:
Yeah I am fine with ES tomorrow


There won't be tomorrow and you know it.

GUYS PLEASE

PRETTY PLEASE

THE VETERAN IS NEVER CONSIDERING A MEDIC DODGE

FOR GOD'S SAKE!

IF HE WAS THE VETERAN WHY DIDN'T HE GOT SUSPICIOUS OF SL? AT LEAST A LITTLE SUSPICIOUS?

IF THERE IS A VETERAN, WHY IS THERE A MEDIC DODGE?

PLEASE THINK!!!!
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 19:48 GMT
#1960
Lol Farah

If you think Vonthin is mafia

And I'm here screaming that FF is mafia for things that really makes sense and instead of jumping on FF (if you think he is town), he confronts me

It should be clear to you that Vonthin not wanting to grab this opportunity to lynch FF confirm FF as mafia.

Jesus
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 19:50 GMT
#1965
On October 26 2015 04:47 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Then vote ever gb and force the scum team to kill th real one or give us a lynch


No because I think the scum team is FF/Vonthin/Shining

And we always kill one of FF or boxerfred today because one of them is always mafia.
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 19:51 GMT
#1967
You're gonna throw the game.

Eversince is town and so is boxerfred.

FF is mafia.
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 19:54 GMT
#1972
On October 26 2015 04:51 The Shining wrote:
I'm here, I'm just clueless and the last 10 pages are a shitshow


Listen

FF claimed veteran
But later he considered SL to be a medic dodge

If he is the veteran he is never considering this.

Also, SL is clearly a medic dodge or Rels would be dead since mafia knows the setup.
Rels isn't dead. There is a doctor in the game.

SL also hinted maybe being veteran and FF never was suspicious of him.

FF's claim is fake
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October 25 2015 19:55 GMT
#1976
On October 26 2015 04:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 04:51 GlowingBear wrote:
You're gonna throw the game.

Eversince is town and so is boxerfred.

FF is mafia.

I really wonder what you're going to do after this flip


I will be saying Gg
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GlowingBear
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October 25 2015 19:57 GMT
#1982
Sorry BF, I tried.

I will consolidate because it's mylo

But it's dead obvious FF is mafia

##unvote
##vote: boxerfred
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October 25 2015 19:58 GMT
#1987
GG WP scumteam
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October 25 2015 20:05 GMT
#2002
Okay, it seems I suck.
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October 25 2015 20:06 GMT
#2004
On October 26 2015 05:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
GB you gonna sulk in your qt or pretend to be shocked?


I'm not mafia
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October 26 2015 03:12 GMT
#2015
On October 21 2015 19:52 boxerfred wrote:
I like Vonthin's response to my questions, I dislike that he scumreads me. He's not the lynch for today though imho.

Let me bring his scum read on me up:

Show nested quote +
Boxer- Lots of big long confusing posts that are all over the place that should've been separated into multiple posts. He makes a case against Moosy then later says it was a bullshit case? Why post it in the first place? Besides his case against Moosy(which he pushes even after calling it BS) he seems to be all over the place with what he is pushing, looks like scum trying to spread chaos to me. Also why ever say "I just scimmed the posts" and then make an opinion, this just gives you plausable deniability when you miss something that could make you look scummy. You always want to post when you have all the information.

I think you refer to one big, seemingly confusing post only and this is a post that is built up quite logically: I caught up, and while I was catching up, I quoted posts that I deemed interesting. I even said that on top of that post. Go have a re-read of that post.
Regarding my Moosy read: I contradicted myself in that read. I was wrong, that's about it. That's why I later said that it was bullshit. I also refrained from my Moosy scumread although it really bothers me that he's not around. So no, I have not continued pushing Moosy, you're misrepresenting the facts. However I still do not have a townread Moosy, although I liked his posts N1 a bit.
Third, regarding the "I just skimmed" case - it was simply honest, sorry if that makes me look bad. Read into that whatever you want, I don't care.

____________


I'm wondering why Farah pushes a MD lynch since her case on ES was/is good. Why the preference now that MD apparently isn't here? Also why that townread on Shining? I don't get the "emotional" argument at all, one can fake his/her meta. Elaborate please. Then again, I wonder why Farah removes GB from her "remaining scum" list. I think your reads of shining and GB are really weak.



I also dislike that Fecalfeast comes into the thread once he's under pressure. Why not do this before? Not interested to solve the game? If so, why not? I strongly think there's scum in between GB and FF, maybe MD but I don't have a solid case on that. I guess MD will break my neck the longer I survive in that game because I cannot tell if he's town or scum but I still have that scum feeling. I had the same fucking feeling in the game we played when he was scum and talked everyone into oblivion, however I was mislynched before being able to get him lynched. I actually have a good grasp on that game, SL and MD are the only ones I don't have at least a reasoned opinion on. That, among with my standing as a townread person, will probably get me shot soon. Well, some casualties cannot be prevented.

Fecal as of now I don't have the time to really look at the games you mentioned towards me. Hold me at it, I'll try to do so this evening.

The lynch should happen in between FF/GB/ES/Shining. I think those guys have the highest chance to flip scum. Second tier lynches are MD/SL(though GB scumreads him which actually makes me rethink that)/VonThin. Don't lynch: Farah. Never lynch: Rels, boxerfred.



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October 26 2015 03:14 GMT
#2016
On October 23 2015 03:44 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 03:40 Vonthin wrote:
On October 23 2015 03:35 boxerfred wrote:
Lol I vote Fecal for being inactive and now he's active as shit. Should catch up completely instead of writing new posts.


Yeah this is shit, this isn't the first time you have posted and made reads without reading everything which in the end just mucks up the thread and makes you look scummier.

You keep misrepresenting that post. Here, let me quote it for you and bold it:

+ Show Spoiler +

On October 20 2015 05:57 boxerfred wrote:
As I'm catching up, I'll write down my notes on what I think about certain posts.

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 01:07 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 20 2015 00:05 Rels wrote:
On October 19 2015 23:45 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 19 2015 23:29 Rels wrote:
On October 19 2015 23:20 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 19 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote:
my moosy read sucks I agree but I still think he's scum, boom. he's doing the same spammy shit he did when we played together. kelsier/farah town. sicklucker hasn't done batshit but oneliners but if i remember correctly, it's not scum indicative for him. dunnno how kelsier townreads him off of that but he does. eversince's post on kelsier is shit, those quotations are kinda standalone and feel tryhard. that makes me townread him.

##vote lonemeow

Enters thread in defense of GB, then votes kelsier for no reason. Goes on to interact with Rels, doesn't follow up.

On October 18 2015 21:49 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:32 LoneMeow wrote:
GlowingBear is Top town for me right now, not only did he get the game to move on from the "joke" phase but there's also this:

[quote]

This is town thinking.



As for the FarahBlackwing, there's a ParanOid scenario I can see where the whole thing was orchestrated in advance but that's not relevant for now, I suppose. Unflipped players and all that.



[quote]

Why wouldn't he make a list post? Some reads are needed to get the "serious" phase of the game started, I don't quite see that list post being scum motivated at all.


[quote]

So the read is wrong (ie. he's town misreading) but you'd WanT to lynch him (ie. he's scum)? What?


again where did I say he was town?

reading is really hard for some people.


If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.

This is constructed bullshit. In the context of that conversation, start of D1, there's no way for that kind of thinking. It's constructed and puts pressure on KSC for the sake of, well, pressuring, while still leaving the vote without any reasons. Stirring up chaos and setting up a potential mislynch.

On October 18 2015 22:06 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:58 LoneMeow wrote:
[quote]

I'm interested in your alignment, and you explaining your though process and logic helps in that.


then why vote me before asking?


Vote is also a tool to provoke reactions.

Why do you not want to help me figure out your alignment?

So he provoked a reaction from Kelsier. Now that the wagon kind of started, he's nowhere to be seen. So all we have is a push on kelsier because "well I can and a vote is pressure". That feels like scum stirring up chaos to me.


Before we go any further into this, I want to know:
a) Have you read the entire thread or just skimmed some parts?
b) What's your read on Rels and why?

Can you answer the same question pretty please ?


I skimmed some MoosyDoosy's posts, for some reason they give me a headache.

So when you answered BF's posts above, you had already read the whole thread ?


I started writing it before I had finished but posted it after.

On October 20 2015 00:05 Rels wrote:
On October 19 2015 23:45 LoneMeow wrote:
And I read you as fairly strong town lean. I like the posts where you refuted Eversince's case on KelsierSC and the points on the MoosyDoosy/Vonthin affair.

I'm not sure I agree on MoosyDoosy being scum though, there are some posts that seem fairly emotional in a way that I think would be hard to emulate as scum. For example this:
On October 19 2015 09:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I kind of want to be lynched just to see boxerfred's reaction. Him thinking he can read me off of one game is pretty funny.




What do you make of boxerfred's switch from me to scott31337?

Nothing alignment indicative about the switch. I noticed that his arguments for scumreading you were super bad though. Don't you think ?


To me the switch seemed kind of opportunistic, like he was trying to push me and then just jumped to someone else when that didn't stick. Note how all the reasons he uses to call scott31337 scum are already out when he makes his case on me - so it frankly doesn't make sense to me that he'd case me first, then just jump off like that.

That's bullshit. Remember why I voted you in the first place, wanted to play the game you played with Kelsier. I didn't even make a "case".

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On October 20 2015 01:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If you read boxerfred's post, it's super awful where he switches between me and The SHining then comes up with a BS reason to try and scumread me. Even before that he blamed me for gif wars when I didn't post any. lol.


Gonna bring that up because I don't want to let this stand. My read on you happened partially on a false prerequisite. Note that while I think you're probably scum, it's not enough to cast my vote on you. I might be bad at persuading people especially since english isn't my first language but I'm able to think. Also it's fun to get this comment from a guy who basically spams all the time and makes the thread hard to read, thanks.

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On October 20 2015 01:23 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 20 2015 01:14 Rels wrote:
On October 20 2015 01:07 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 20 2015 00:05 Rels wrote:
On October 19 2015 23:45 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 19 2015 23:29 Rels wrote:
On October 19 2015 23:20 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 19 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote:
my moosy read sucks I agree but I still think he's scum, boom. he's doing the same spammy shit he did when we played together. kelsier/farah town. sicklucker hasn't done batshit but oneliners but if i remember correctly, it's not scum indicative for him. dunnno how kelsier townreads him off of that but he does. eversince's post on kelsier is shit, those quotations are kinda standalone and feel tryhard. that makes me townread him.

##vote lonemeow

Enters thread in defense of GB, then votes kelsier for no reason. Goes on to interact with Rels, doesn't follow up.

On October 18 2015 21:49 LoneMeow wrote:
[quote]

If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.

This is constructed bullshit. In the context of that conversation, start of D1, there's no way for that kind of thinking. It's constructed and puts pressure on KSC for the sake of, well, pressuring, while still leaving the vote without any reasons. Stirring up chaos and setting up a potential mislynch.

On October 18 2015 22:06 LoneMeow wrote:
[quote]

Vote is also a tool to provoke reactions.

Why do you not want to help me figure out your alignment?

So he provoked a reaction from Kelsier. Now that the wagon kind of started, he's nowhere to be seen. So all we have is a push on kelsier because "well I can and a vote is pressure". That feels like scum stirring up chaos to me.


Before we go any further into this, I want to know:
a) Have you read the entire thread or just skimmed some parts?
b) What's your read on Rels and why?

Can you answer the same question pretty please ?


I skimmed some MoosyDoosy's posts, for some reason they give me a headache.

So when you answered BF's posts above, you had already read the whole thread ?


I started writing it before I had finished but posted it after.

Oh yeah ? In this post you both asked BF if he had read the thread properly and asked for his read on me:
On October 19 2015 23:20 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 19 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote:
my moosy read sucks I agree but I still think he's scum, boom. he's doing the same spammy shit he did when we played together. kelsier/farah town. sicklucker hasn't done batshit but oneliners but if i remember correctly, it's not scum indicative for him. dunnno how kelsier townreads him off of that but he does. eversince's post on kelsier is shit, those quotations are kinda standalone and feel tryhard. that makes me townread him.

##vote lonemeow

Enters thread in defense of GB, then votes kelsier for no reason. Goes on to interact with Rels, doesn't follow up.

On October 18 2015 21:49 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:32 LoneMeow wrote:
GlowingBear is Top town for me right now, not only did he get the game to move on from the "joke" phase but there's also this:

On October 18 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
There is no such thing as "deciding a meta". You play to win and that's all.


This is town thinking.



As for the FarahBlackwing, there's a ParanOid scenario I can see where the whole thing was orchestrated in advance but that's not relevant for now, I suppose. Unflipped players and all that.



On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that Has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.


Why wouldn't he make a list post? Some reads are needed to get the "serious" phase of the game started, I don't quite see that list post being scum motivated at all.


On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above.
The Rest of his list doesn't make logical Sense to me but again that is typical GB.
I WanT to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.


So the read is wrong (ie. he's town misreading) but you'd WanT to lynch him (ie. he's scum)? What?


again where did I say he was town?

reading is really hard for some people.


If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.

This is constructed bullshit. In the context of that conversation, start of D1, there's no way for that kind of thinking. It's constructed and puts pressure on KSC for the sake of, well, pressuring, while still leaving the vote without any reasons. Stirring up chaos and setting up a potential mislynch.

On October 18 2015 22:06 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:58 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:54 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:53 LoneMeow wrote:
[quote]

Okay, so why exactly is he scum? Why was the list post bad at the time it was made, besides being a list post? To me it seems much more like town mentality to try to get the game moving in a more serious direction after the "joke phase" as some call it.


how is this of any value if you already decided he was town?


I'm interested in your alignment, and you explaining your though process and logic helps in that.


then why vote me before asking?


Vote is also a tool to provoke reactions.

Why do you not want to help me figure out your alignment?

So he provoked a reaction from Kelsier. Now that the wagon kind of started, he's nowhere to be seen. So all we have is a push on kelsier because "well I can and a vote is pressure". That feels like scum stirring up chaos to me.


Before we go any further into this, I want to know:
a) Have you read the entire thread or just skimmed some parts?
b) What's your read on Rels and why?

You just said you had read the thread completely before posting this. Seems that you missed something ??
On October 19 2015 19:59 boxerfred wrote:
Moosy/scott interaction is also interesting because of this:

On October 18 2015 06:33 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also I kind of regret signing up for BH games in the first place. I always roll town in them which is getting super super boring.


This seems like your trying to push this a little too much - just a thought here...

On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB can i bus you again?


And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else

welp too late.

##Vote: GlowingBear


And a shit early vote.

Now he's spamming up the thread.

I'm not caring for this play so far.

GB is a slight townlean - and that's about it.


I don't think this is a scum interaction. Moosy pushes me, scott nullifies that plus points out negative things in moosy's playstyle. So I don't think at all they are mafia together. Scott keeps it up:

On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak.


Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old.


Pressure, questions, and then he drops it:

On October 18 2015 07:35 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak.


Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old.

I decide to have a bit of fun as GB was my Mafia partner in the game where I doubled bused my partners. As a result, I ask him as a joke if I can bus him this game. GB understands the joke and says that I should say it in the QT. As a continuation of the joke I say it's too late and remark that I'll be confirmed town after the "bus" and then vote for GB.


Just was making sure - Thank you.

To Shining on the GB read - a bit of meta (I've guessed him correctly the last three games) - a bit of playfulness and making sense.
I mean I didn't like Kelsier's entrance persay either, but I was going to wait until later in the day to see if he shows up. I didn't see anything else really worth pointing out when I read the thread.


And now he disappears. I mean I can see the things on scott but I can't imagine scum scott and scum moosy interacting in that way that early in the game, it just doesn't make sense. So I'd say we have scum in between moosy/scott but I wouldn't say both are scum. I townread kels and I clearly townread rels from what I see so i'm glad to help on that wagon.

##unvote ##vote scott12345

So you read the thread, you read BF's posts I assume because he's someone you suspect; but you have missed that he townread me ?


Do note that I asked him why which was what I was mostly interested in.

On October 20 2015 01:14 Rels wrote:
On October 20 2015 01:07 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 20 2015 00:05 Rels wrote:
On October 19 2015 23:45 LoneMeow wrote:
And I read you as fairly strong town lean. I like the posts where you refuted Eversince's case on KelsierSC and the points on the MoosyDoosy/Vonthin affair.

I'm not sure I agree on MoosyDoosy being scum though, there are some posts that seem fairly emotional in a way that I think would be hard to emulate as scum. For example this:
On October 19 2015 09:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I kind of want to be lynched just to see boxerfred's reaction. Him thinking he can read me off of one game is pretty funny.




What do you make of boxerfred's switch from me to scott31337?

Nothing alignment indicative about the switch. I noticed that his arguments for scumreading you were super bad though. Don't you think ?


To me the switch seemed kind of opportunistic, like he was trying to push me and then just jumped to someone else when that didn't stick. Note how all the reasons he uses to call scott31337 scum are already out when he makes his case on me - so it frankly doesn't make sense to me that he'd case me first, then just jump off like that.

Re evaluating is a town indicative thing. It super weird to me that you put suspicion on BF on re evaluating reads, which is town indicative; and not on his god awful case on you.


Re-evaluating would be fine, but I just don't see anything in the posts that hints at that; I'd expect a re-evaluating townie to at least note something like "X is still scum but Y looks even worse" when switching from the guy he cased to someone else.

I suppose the trap is no longer going to work anyway, so yes, the horribleness of the case was why I originally started suspecting him. I was trying to trap him on you having essentially done the same thing he based his case on me yet calling you town and me scum.


Gonna repeat it, I didn't case you, stop making up reasons to push me.

____

I like the case on Eversince a lot. I'm fine with ES/scott and of course Moosy. However I'll be in for a Moosy lynch pretty much anytime. Scott would be the lurker scum but I think it's important to note that he's rather inactive when he's town while there's a really solid case on ES. Decisions, decisions.

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On October 20 2015 01:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean, I'll sheep whatever you guys want tbh. For D1 at least.


What a huge fucking awesome useless dumb post. I want to vote you for this. And for your general posting style.

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On October 20 2015 02:03 Vonthin wrote:
My thoughts on everyone now that I've read their filters.

Moosy- Slight scum read, I didn't like his opening spam shitpost crap, and some of the reason Rels brought up after I made my post the other night. He has some posts though where I can see town motivation but the useless posts outweigh them for me.


LoneMeow- I think he is town, I see clear motivation behind the things he is doing trying to get reads on people.


Sicklurker-Leaning slight scum on him, lots of fluff in his filter, I don't understand his Lonemeow vote, I don't see anything to go on besides him not posting a lot to make him scum.

On October 19 2015 22:44 sicklucker wrote:
like he starts with scott "easy town read"

then he follows up on the next guy "not much to read on" like you could have used that on scott lol. Then he just lists the two easy people as scum


Never said lol ez town read or that he was my top read just because I typed his read first in the list., He was just under my list for people who I thought were town for the time. I liked the posts he made and he had no fluff. My strongest town read at the time I made that list was GB. He seemed to made his opinions of me without reading my posts then read them and changed them after someone called him out on his and read them.


GB- Still town, I don't see any scum motivation behind his posts.


Boxer-- Null still, I understand his reasoning behind his cases but I don't agree with most of them. Has some fluff here and there and his posts/opinions vary so I don't really understand him.


Scott-Besides not posting a lot, his posts still read town to me. I understand lynching for inactivity though.


Rels- I think he is town, I like most of his posts up un till his recent ones with his case against Lonemeow which I think is a pretty weak case for day1.


Farah--Town, Clear town motivation behind her posts, no fluff. Her case against Ever is clear and thought out and makes sense.


Ever-- The big thing that leaps out to me in his filter is the big post with all the quote about his case against KSC, was a big jumbled mess and a somewhat weak case. His thoughts are all over the place in the start but It could just be him being new and reacting to the posts he sees.


Shining- I think he is town, I like his posts and arguments, has some things I don't like but the things I like outweigh the ones I don't.


KSC - He started off looking scum to me but he started to look town since the last day. I like his reads and questions since he stopped posting fluff and being so negative at the start


Fecal- Seems scummy, posts seem half assed which shit reads that doesn't give any explanations. Not enough to go on for a Day 1 lynch.


Would Lynch: Lurker, Ever, Moosy
Needs more posts/convincing: Fecal

If anyone has specific questions for me hit me up fast since I have to go to my afternoon classes soon.



How do you read Shining as town? Why is that? I'd scumlean him. Also, how do you understand my reasong if even I say that the reasoning of MD is bullshit? How can you townread scott based that his posts were absurd (as Rels and me pointed out)? Scumlean for you.

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On October 20 2015 02:58 KelsierSC wrote:
i'd actually much prefer a scott lynch over ever right now

scott's return has been atrocious

vonthin putting his vote there and trying to keep scott alive looks really sketchy to me.



Having read this, yes. Scott's return is bullshit. However if he'd be scum and if he'd have read the thread before, why wouldn't he just go down the "I'm a low volume poster as town" road? Me and someone else mentioned that. Bad scum or genuine excuse, I have no idea but tend to believe the first thing. He jumps the Eversince wagon but I think that's NAI.

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On October 20 2015 03:00 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I think its interesting moosey is blindly sheeping onto boxer who id his biggest scum read currently. And totally disregards case on ever and misrepresents it.


YES YES YES (I fixed that you wrote Moosydoosy in the original post, you corrected in later)

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On October 20 2015 03:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 20 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 20 2015 03:02 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Autocorrect got me, boxer his biggest scum read is on Scott hut he totally just sheeped onto Scott with him. Oh well


moosy did say he would be happy lynching scott earlier.


On October 20 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##unvote
##vote scott31337


sounds cool


So what, lynch scum!boxerfred's scumread?

I'm on page 31 now. Pizza arrived .

tl;dr

would lynch between scott/eversince/moosy, would look into glowingbear and fecalfeast since they dropped under the radar, need to check for lurkers. rels/kelsier/farah town, sicklucker lololol no idea.




What is more towny than reading the thread one post by one and posting my thoughts to fucking every single post during the catchup-process? You are misrepresenting the facts. Why is that? Are you scum?


This one also
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October 26 2015 03:16 GMT
#2017
On October 23 2015 05:43 boxerfred wrote:
Also it's interesting that Shining comes out of lurking to push me after a mislynch with exactly 2 off-wagon voters happened. Vonthin picking it up that fast is weird, too.


And this
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#2018
I basically want to lynch Vonthin 100% of the time here.

Also, congrats Moosy for the spot on scumread
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October 26 2015 15:27 GMT
#2041
On October 26 2015 18:19 Rels wrote:
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On October 26 2015 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2015 04:51 The Shining wrote:
I'm here, I'm just clueless and the last 10 pages are a shitshow

FF claimed veteran
But later he considered SL to be a medic dodge

Man
A lie 6 minutes before deadline so we don't have time to fact check
Pretty nice try


Dude I was typing fast so I worded it wrong but I even quoted where FF said SL could be a medic dodge.
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October 26 2015 15:28 GMT
#2042
On October 26 2015 13:44 The Shining wrote:
Like...BF and Vonthin both had eachother as scum for a majority of the game, if not the entire game, but neither one really cased the other nor pushed him. I'm thinking it could've been a set up to bus if need be. Their interactions are just strange.


Awesome.

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October 26 2015 15:33 GMT
#2043
On October 26 2015 21:08 Rels wrote:
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On October 24 2015 09:45 Vonthin wrote:
Yeah I think GB/Boxer and then either ES or Farah is a good scum team. After looking over GB's filter I agree with all the points about him in your posts. Only thing that bothers me about this team is GB has called out Boxer a couple times like he was the first one last time to call TMI on the Boxer dropping the Moosy vote and then defending him poorly by leaving his vote on FF for shit reasons

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On October 25 2015 04:34 Vonthin wrote:
GB/Boxer are scum mates. I feel at this point Boxer is trying to separate himself from GB who has an excellent chance of getting lynched today. His case adding onto the points FF have made are the first case he has made this game that I don't see any scum motivation behind. GB thinks BF is town because he is trying hard to lynch him but not FF whose case and points on him are just as good as BF's. Before BF made this case on GB, GB thought he could be scum with the TMI on the MD lynch but now he is town for making a case against GB. Boxer also seems to be tunneling GB pretty hard when at this point you need to keep everyone in mind or else we lose.

Third scummate is either ES or Farah. Still learning towards ES as Farah is finally starting to scumhunt and not just defending herself and ES still really hasn't done anything worthwhile besides coming in and piling onto the Farah suspicions and just quoting a GB post saying she doesn't like it.

Lynch Boxer/GB today and tomorrow, get more reads from Farah and ES to determine which one of them is scum. Win game.


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On October 25 2015 05:12 Vonthin wrote:
Farah who do you think are ES's scummates? What are your thoughts on a GB/Boxer being scummates with ES

Right now rereading ES filter again I am getting more inclined to think she is scum over you. Now that you are done defending yourself/arguing with Rels and others and are scum hunting is good but you are back to tunneling ES. If you can make some good cases for other people it will help me being sure on this as you could very well be possibly scum for tunneling all game on 1 towny trying to win the game with a push on her today.

These posts at the start of D3 before any claim situation are super good. I really don't see any other possibilities than ES / GB.


Rels.

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October 26 2015 15:40 GMT
#2045
On October 27 2015 00:37 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Then proove it? Its obvious shining thinks its vont+ever.

I'm torn between vont/ever and glowingbear/ever.



I'm not mafia. I can't prove it. I simply ain't.
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October 26 2015 15:49 GMT
#2047
On October 27 2015 00:42 Rels wrote:
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On October 27 2015 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2015 21:08 Rels wrote:
On October 24 2015 09:45 Vonthin wrote:
Yeah I think GB/Boxer and then either ES or Farah is a good scum team. After looking over GB's filter I agree with all the points about him in your posts. Only thing that bothers me about this team is GB has called out Boxer a couple times like he was the first one last time to call TMI on the Boxer dropping the Moosy vote and then defending him poorly by leaving his vote on FF for shit reasons

On October 25 2015 04:34 Vonthin wrote:
GB/Boxer are scum mates. I feel at this point Boxer is trying to separate himself from GB who has an excellent chance of getting lynched today. His case adding onto the points FF have made are the first case he has made this game that I don't see any scum motivation behind. GB thinks BF is town because he is trying hard to lynch him but not FF whose case and points on him are just as good as BF's. Before BF made this case on GB, GB thought he could be scum with the TMI on the MD lynch but now he is town for making a case against GB. Boxer also seems to be tunneling GB pretty hard when at this point you need to keep everyone in mind or else we lose.

Third scummate is either ES or Farah. Still learning towards ES as Farah is finally starting to scumhunt and not just defending herself and ES still really hasn't done anything worthwhile besides coming in and piling onto the Farah suspicions and just quoting a GB post saying she doesn't like it.

Lynch Boxer/GB today and tomorrow, get more reads from Farah and ES to determine which one of them is scum. Win game.


On October 25 2015 05:12 Vonthin wrote:
Farah who do you think are ES's scummates? What are your thoughts on a GB/Boxer being scummates with ES

Right now rereading ES filter again I am getting more inclined to think she is scum over you. Now that you are done defending yourself/arguing with Rels and others and are scum hunting is good but you are back to tunneling ES. If you can make some good cases for other people it will help me being sure on this as you could very well be possibly scum for tunneling all game on 1 towny trying to win the game with a push on her today.

These posts at the start of D3 before any claim situation are super good. I really don't see any other possibilities than ES / GB.


Rels.

I am not mafia.

Your bad push of FF yesterday says otherwise.


It's not bad, it's actually pretty logical.

And it's clear BF was bussed. Wouldn't it be better for scum to just bus BF instead trying somethig else?

I mean, imagine I'm scum with Eversince like you guys are pretty certain is scum. He kills FF this night. He is now useless.

If I am mafia and I bus both him and bf, I gain enough towncred to survive at LYLO.

If I am mafia and I try to diverge the lynch from BF today, the probability of getting lynched later is huge. So I am basically playing against my win con.

I've pushed FF because I really believed he was fake claiming
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October 26 2015 15:55 GMT
#2049
On October 27 2015 00:52 Rels wrote:
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On October 27 2015 00:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2015 00:42 Rels wrote:
On October 27 2015 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2015 21:08 Rels wrote:
On October 24 2015 09:45 Vonthin wrote:
Yeah I think GB/Boxer and then either ES or Farah is a good scum team. After looking over GB's filter I agree with all the points about him in your posts. Only thing that bothers me about this team is GB has called out Boxer a couple times like he was the first one last time to call TMI on the Boxer dropping the Moosy vote and then defending him poorly by leaving his vote on FF for shit reasons

On October 25 2015 04:34 Vonthin wrote:
GB/Boxer are scum mates. I feel at this point Boxer is trying to separate himself from GB who has an excellent chance of getting lynched today. His case adding onto the points FF have made are the first case he has made this game that I don't see any scum motivation behind. GB thinks BF is town because he is trying hard to lynch him but not FF whose case and points on him are just as good as BF's. Before BF made this case on GB, GB thought he could be scum with the TMI on the MD lynch but now he is town for making a case against GB. Boxer also seems to be tunneling GB pretty hard when at this point you need to keep everyone in mind or else we lose.

Third scummate is either ES or Farah. Still learning towards ES as Farah is finally starting to scumhunt and not just defending herself and ES still really hasn't done anything worthwhile besides coming in and piling onto the Farah suspicions and just quoting a GB post saying she doesn't like it.

Lynch Boxer/GB today and tomorrow, get more reads from Farah and ES to determine which one of them is scum. Win game.


On October 25 2015 05:12 Vonthin wrote:
Farah who do you think are ES's scummates? What are your thoughts on a GB/Boxer being scummates with ES

Right now rereading ES filter again I am getting more inclined to think she is scum over you. Now that you are done defending yourself/arguing with Rels and others and are scum hunting is good but you are back to tunneling ES. If you can make some good cases for other people it will help me being sure on this as you could very well be possibly scum for tunneling all game on 1 towny trying to win the game with a push on her today.

These posts at the start of D3 before any claim situation are super good. I really don't see any other possibilities than ES / GB.


Rels.

I am not mafia.

Your bad push of FF yesterday says otherwise.


It's not bad, it's actually pretty logical.

And it's clear BF was bussed. Wouldn't it be better for scum to just bus BF instead trying somethig else?

I mean, imagine I'm scum with Eversince like you guys are pretty certain is scum. He kills FF this night. He is now useless.

If I am mafia and I bus both him and bf, I gain enough towncred to survive at LYLO.


That is the false part. Everybody attacked BF for its claim, so you bussing him would get you 0 towncred. And you and ES were the main wagons before the claim situation, so it's normal to me that you tried to finish the game right there.


So I've tried to lynch someone not boxerfred or Eversince without the help of Eversince who has been already strongly scum read only to have myself in the eye of the tornado.

Ok.
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October 26 2015 16:43 GMT
#2052
On October 27 2015 01:36 Rels wrote:
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On October 27 2015 01:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Glowing bear is right in that it doesn't make a lot of sense in that situation with scum mate afk to push the other lynch when confirmed rels was staying put with the others.

If ES is scum, we don't know if she was AFK or not. She could simple wait for the last moment to switch if an opportunity was available.


Yes, but if she was AFK I would know it in my QT.

Basically you're fitting the possible situations to scum read me instead of just analysing facts and getting an unbiased conclusion from them
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October 26 2015 16:46 GMT
#2053
I mean, even if you believe ES is town, you're ignoring that I had no backup on changing the votes and that I would voluntarily put myself in the eye of the tornado

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October 26 2015 17:54 GMT
#2057
On October 27 2015 01:46 Rels wrote:
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On October 27 2015 01:43 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2015 01:36 Rels wrote:
On October 27 2015 01:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Glowing bear is right in that it doesn't make a lot of sense in that situation with scum mate afk to push the other lynch when confirmed rels was staying put with the others.

If ES is scum, we don't know if she was AFK or not. She could simple wait for the last moment to switch if an opportunity was available.


Yes, but if she was AFK I would know it in my QT.

Basically you're fitting the possible situations to scum read me instead of just analysing facts and getting an unbiased conclusion from them

Not true. Shining was scumreading voting ES super early on D1 and D3. Vonthin thought BF and ES were scum before the claim situation and immediately voted BF after the claims.
I'm not saying you're slam dunk mafia, I'm saying you pushing FF is scum indicative, especially compared to Shining's and Vonthin's reactions, which are the other two options.



What I mean, Rels, is that if you believe any mafia partner that could back me up was AFK, I would know this because we share a scum QT, which reinforces the case where I'm never doing what I did as scum.

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October 26 2015 17:55 GMT
#2058
On October 27 2015 02:13 Vonthin wrote:
Can we talk about the possible motivations behind BFs claim? He had to have some sort of reasoning behind it to throw away his life like that.

If GB was town why would he claim then? The vote was 4-2 in favor of GB over ES. If he was town why take the target off GB and put it on himself when scum could get an easy mislynch on him to end the game?

It only makes sense to me to make this claim if GB is scum and possibly the RB and that BF wanted to take the bullet for him and try to give him town cred at the same time.

I still don't see how the team is anything but BF/GB/ES still


OR

we can't know his motivations since he could simply be going to the easy win without caring of who was going to be lynched at that moment.
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October 26 2015 18:14 GMT
#2060
On October 27 2015 03:04 Vonthin wrote:
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On October 27 2015 02:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2015 02:13 Vonthin wrote:
Can we talk about the possible motivations behind BFs claim? He had to have some sort of reasoning behind it to throw away his life like that.

If GB was town why would he claim then? The vote was 4-2 in favor of GB over ES. If he was town why take the target off GB and put it on himself when scum could get an easy mislynch on him to end the game?

It only makes sense to me to make this claim if GB is scum and possibly the RB and that BF wanted to take the bullet for him and try to give him town cred at the same time.

I still don't see how the team is anything but BF/GB/ES still


OR

we can't know his motivations since he could simply be going to the easy win without caring of who was going to be lynched at that moment.


the easy win was not claiming though if you are town since majority of the game thought u were scum at that point


To be honest this makes total sense.

But it's wrong because I'm town :/
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October 26 2015 18:15 GMT
#2061
On October 27 2015 03:14 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 27 2015 03:04 Vonthin wrote:
On October 27 2015 02:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2015 02:13 Vonthin wrote:
Can we talk about the possible motivations behind BFs claim? He had to have some sort of reasoning behind it to throw away his life like that.

If GB was town why would he claim then? The vote was 4-2 in favor of GB over ES. If he was town why take the target off GB and put it on himself when scum could get an easy mislynch on him to end the game?

It only makes sense to me to make this claim if GB is scum and possibly the RB and that BF wanted to take the bullet for him and try to give him town cred at the same time.

I still don't see how the team is anything but BF/GB/ES still


OR

we can't know his motivations since he could simply be going to the easy win without caring of who was going to be lynched at that moment.


the easy win was not claiming though if you are town since majority of the game thought u were scum at that point


To be honest this makes total sense.

But it's wrong because I'm town :/


Unless all mafia were voting me and they were afraid people could sheep Farah into Eversince.
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October 27 2015 02:34 GMT
#2080
On October 27 2015 08:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I've been tunneled on GB all game almost and now scum leaves me alive. Eversince posted so she wouldn't get modkilled or something with chirp chirp so she's done for.

I'm locked in a WIFOM tornado right now. GB is smart enough to know how to create wifom with night kills but why not just kill me but everyone has already shown a willingness to consider outside of GB for last scum but why farah?

I need to mull this over


Night kill is clearly for wifom. Which is dumb, they are keeping 2 confirmed townies alive. Scum QT obviously has got newbs in it
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October 27 2015 03:17 GMT
#2082
On October 27 2015 11:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
which is a really good angle for you to play as scum in double mylo.

You see the tornado?


It's horrible because if we successful lynch mafia today they are carrying a confirmed town to LYLO.
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October 27 2015 03:28 GMT
#2084
On October 27 2015 12:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
I agree that it's a bad play but if you're not mafia then BF claiming doc is an even WORSE play


Well

I'm not.

By the way, talking about tornados

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October 27 2015 04:04 GMT
#2086
On October 27 2015 12:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
dave mustaine is mafia

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/megadeths-dave-mustaine-explains-why-he-refused-to-perform-with-dissection-and-rotting-christ/



ROFL
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October 27 2015 14:31 GMT
#2094
I'll help you with this.

If the night kill was made for you to wifom

And if you can't know why would boxerfred claim like that

Simply do not use these information to scumread anyone
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October 27 2015 14:42 GMT
#2096
On October 27 2015 23:32 Rels wrote:
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On October 27 2015 23:31 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll help you with this.

If the night kill was made for you to wifom

And if you can't know why would boxerfred claim like that

Simply do not use these information to scumread anyone

Do you think ES is mafia ?
If yes who is the last one ?
If not who are the two mafias ?


I don't really know

The only reason I really have to scumread ES was that he didn't immediately react to SL's claim and your CC. He decided to push boxerfred.

In the other hand, well... He DID push boxerfred and his posts were very effortful.

I have no reasons to town read shining or Vonthin. I really think Vonthin is our best shot as mafia.

But I've been wrong all game (on mafia, not on townies). I will read their filters later. I promise. Then I'll give my opinion.
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October 27 2015 17:31 GMT
#2098
On October 28 2015 00:50 Rels wrote:
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On October 27 2015 23:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2015 23:32 Rels wrote:
On October 27 2015 23:31 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll help you with this.

If the night kill was made for you to wifom

And if you can't know why would boxerfred claim like that

Simply do not use these information to scumread anyone

Do you think ES is mafia ?
If yes who is the last one ?
If not who are the two mafias ?


I don't really know

The fact that you don't see that ES is scum by VCA is another suspicious thing. If ES is not scum, scum team could have hammered her for instant win.


Well, I am town and I was leading the votes. So this argument is invalid.

Unless they were afraid that ES could get killed instead.

OR boxerfred simply wanted to use his breadcrumbs and went for the gr8 plays.

Again, I think we have to evaluate overall gameplay instead of residing in VCA and NKA.

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October 27 2015 18:43 GMT
#2102
On October 28 2015 03:22 Rels wrote:
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On October 26 2015 18:25 Rels wrote:
Day 3

boxerfred (4): FecalFeast, Rels, Vonthin, GlowingBear, FarahBlackwing, GlowingBear
Eversince (1): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, FecalFeast, FarahBlackwing
FarahBlackwing (1): Rels, Eversince
FecalFeast (1): boxerfred, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): FecalFeast, boxerfred, Rels, The Shining, Vonthin, FecalFeast
Vonthin (0): Rels, FarahBlackwing

At deadline.

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On October 26 2015 18:25 Rels wrote:
Day 3

boxerfred (4): FecalFeast, Rels, Vonthin, GlowingBear, FarahBlackwing
Eversince (2): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, FecalFeast
FarahBlackwing (1): Rels, Eversince
FecalFeast (2): boxerfred, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): FecalFeast, boxerfred, Rels, The Shining, Vonthin, FecalFeast
Vonthin (0): Rels, FarahBlackwing

A few minutes before deadline, when vonthin refused to switch (I think, did it from memory).


Ok but if that was the plan why is Eversince wastinf his vote on Farah?
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October 27 2015 18:46 GMT
#2103
Oh wait

I see what you're talking about.

If Vonthin was mafia he could've switch to Eversince. If he is town, boxerfred's wagon is pure town.
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October 28 2015 02:30 GMT
#2110
On October 28 2015 07:15 Eversince wrote:
##Vote: The Shining


Why him?
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October 28 2015 05:40 GMT
#2111
Whatever

##Vote: Eversince
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October 28 2015 18:55 GMT
#2115
On October 28 2015 17:40 Rels wrote:
Yo GB. I hope you're around.
You finally have accepted the fact that ES is 99% mafia (yeah, like scott). I think you are the last mafia. Maybe I'm wrong, that wouldn't be the first time this game.
You promised to read Shining's and Vonthin's filter to find mafia. There has to be at least one if you're town, maybe two if ES is town. When will you do it ?


I'm heading to my night classes, I can't do this today. I will do it if the game continues.

Don't wifom yourself. If he is 99% mafia, I am bussing him. You'll still hit a mafia and you'll have more time to reevaluate me. If you shift to me we lose the game today
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October 29 2015 04:56 GMT
#2122
lol game is solved. Whoever is alive with me in LYLO is mafia

Gg Wp
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October 29 2015 04:57 GMT
#2123
On October 29 2015 05:11 The Shining wrote:
Shocker

At least between D1 and now, its pretty obvious she spewed me town by constantly trying to get me lynched and tunneling the fck out of me. And the vote on me...lel.

I'm probably just gonna flip a coin between GB and Vonthin.

I do find it very interesting that ES didn't flip RB, though. I thought the reason BF sacd himself was to save their RB to make sure they could kill Fecal.

The other(leading) lynch was GB...GB could very well be the RB. What I don't get is why BF would case scumGB and try to get him lynched, then CC FF to try and save him. Unless he was going for a super pro play, it seems counterproductive.

FF made a good point on the GB wifom statement too though. And I haven't forgotten how in my last scum game, GB was going to be the lynch before people shifted to me. GB raged up a storm and defended hard. This game, GB has been very pacifistic while being at lynch risk more than once.

GB wanna just concede now?


I'm not mafia

Hopefully I will be able to prove that especially with VCA
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October 29 2015 06:41 GMT
#2126
On October 29 2015 15:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
I will go full tryhard mode too just to spite you


I really hope you go to final three because convincing Rels I'm not scum is gonna be difficult
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October 29 2015 20:44 GMT
#2146
On October 30 2015 05:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm gonna make it as long and drawn out a possible now.

##vote nolynch


Not the smartest decision.

You're confirmed town with the roleblocker alive. You will be 100% shot at night. So a no lynch won't help town by taking someone out of the discussion pool since you're already out of the discussion pool. But it will mean one less vote from a townie.

We will decide this today.

I think Vonthin is the last one. I will have to analyse the shining tho.
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October 29 2015 22:30 GMT
#2149
On October 30 2015 06:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
##unvote

##vote glowingbear


I did tell rels I would


You're voting town.
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October 29 2015 22:56 GMT
#2152
On October 30 2015 07:55 The Shining wrote:
But then GB always knew he was going to be next lynch...I think GB would've conceded, no?

Vonthin may have just pocketed me with that consistent Shining is town school and a town case...why post such an extensive town case when he had no scum cases. Just responses to people and list posts with simple reads...

I kinda feel like yolo voting Vonthin...


No because that's exactly what I would think in my scum mind: use that same excuse.

I will work on your filters at some point.
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October 29 2015 22:59 GMT
#2153
Yes, I think I can solve the game.
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October 29 2015 23:34 GMT
#2157
On October 30 2015 08:20 The Shining wrote:
Yeah GB if you're town and we lose, I'm completely blaming this game on you. Because I swear you look just as scummy as Vonthin. The main difference is that you don't seem to care to do anything about it


I will solve the game. Atm I think last scum is Vonthin but I WILL analhse his filter and yours.
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October 30 2015 00:12 GMT
#2159
On October 30 2015 08:46 Vonthin wrote:
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On October 30 2015 08:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 30 2015 08:20 The Shining wrote:
Yeah GB if you're town and we lose, I'm completely blaming this game on you. Because I swear you look just as scummy as Vonthin. The main difference is that you don't seem to care to do anything about it


I will solve the game. Atm I think last scum is Vonthin but I WILL analhse his filter and yours.



You keep repeating that you solved the game or will solve it and that you will read mine and Shinings filters. Stop repeating yourself saying you are going to do something and just do it already.



Here are the GB/ES interactions

GB->ES

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1. Says he is voting for Scott and not ES since he has yet to read ES's post. Then says he has 2 pages of filler and that he is trying to play the game. Farah tells GB to vote for ES, he replies he doesn't have time to read the case and then later on votes for ES after his SL push fails and the scott wagon is secured with enough votes. Never actually says ES is scum or that he read the case.

On October 20 2015 03:31 GlowingBear wrote:
I actually won't be able to catch up, I have a lot to do.

Skimmed a little bit. I'm not sure what to do with Kelsier's answers, it felt townie to me, but I find weird that he says there is at least one mafia between me, shining and moosy but never really pushes any of us effectively - instead, he goes against scott. But overall, his posts has town vibes in it.

Scott came bad to the thread and I agree with the suspicions brought on him.

I don't wish to lynch Eversince since I didn't read his posts. I don't think he is one to be lynched today due to activity, either.

As my knowledge of this ongoing game is limited, I'd go against lurkers. I hate fecal feast/sicklucker wasting their votes. If one of them is mafia, both wagons are town.

That said, I want to vote sicklucker for his lackluster push on LoneMeow. If people don't want to, I'd vote FF. Since I don't think Eversince should be lynched today, I am voting the alternate wagon that did a scummy think.

##unvote
##vote: Scott31337


BUT I PREFER TO LYNCH SICKLUCKER OR FECALFEAST FOR WASTING THEIR VOTES
If people is willing to do so, let me know


On October 20 2015 03:36 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 20 2015 03:33 FarahBlackwing wrote:
What activity by ever since?


He has two pages filter and it looks to me that he is trying to play the game.


On October 20 2015 04:20 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 20 2015 04:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
I just woke up and skimmed the new posts.
##unvote
##vote scott31337


seems fine to me if nobody else sees how scummy vonthin is


##Unvote
##Vote: eversince



2. GB talking about how ES has disinterest on the BF claim, doesnt push it further than this.

On October 22 2015 03:55 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 22 2015 03:49 Eversince wrote:
Glowing when I couldn't wrap my head around the Sick claim yesterday I was giving mafia vibes to you.
Rels reiterates basically what I was pondering to the note why not pick at him?


It's not about WHAT you said, it is about the initial disinterest you had on the claim.

I mean, there was a claim AND a counter claim but instead of dropping any discussion you were having to give thoughts about it, you kept pushing Boxerfred. I would expect a townie to immediately react to the claims. Unless you know both their alignmebts, so it is disinteresting



On October 22 2015 04:00 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 22 2015 03:59 Eversince wrote:
You found that mafia telling but Rels just posted where I ended up last night in his post and it's ok?


Rels counter claimed and voted sicklucker, dude. He immediately reacted to it



3. Cute banter between each other

On October 23 2015 03:28 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 23 2015 03:26 Eversince wrote:
On October 23 2015 03:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 03:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
Like this game isn't about who has the best reads, this game is about winning. People who have obviously put more effort into this game deserve to have their shit sheeped if it sounds good. I'm not going to vote my scumread if nobody else will.


But you have to show us you have being convinced by something reasonable. Because we need to see your thought process behind it.

What convinced you Vonthin could be mafia?


Oh the bells! I like you Glowing. I said this same thing last night.


I know. I'm adorable



4. Here he reads that ES isn't mafia after all the scummy shit ES did all game and even defending ES a little bit from Farah

On October 26 2015 02:17 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 26 2015 02:08 FarahBlackwing wrote:
He never reevaluated anything about you gb.

Well he's scum but I'll keep my vote here idc about "cred" I'm on the right lynch.


Listen.

In my mind, the one very tired of this game, the scum team is Vonthin, Shining and Boxerfred. I have yet to believe Eversince is mafia. If he is mafia, then take out The Shining.

I understand what you told me about Eversince being the Roleblocker and boxerfred sacrificing himself to protect him.

But think of it this way: if you're madia and you have 3 of you alive, wouldn't you risk fake counter claiming so you can get an easy win? In this scenario, there is no "protection". Just a guy trying to win.

If there is this possibility here, then the grounds to read Eversince as the roleblocker falls apart, don't you think?


ES--->GB

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Nothing about GB besides her replying to the stuff in the GB-ES listed above till the day of the BF claim untill she says she doesn't like 2 of GBs quotes then adds GB to the scum team with Farah

On October 25 2015 02:33 Eversince wrote:
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On October 25 2015 02:13 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll sheep you Rels. I'm burned out and I have no motivation to put more effort here. I'll whoever you want to lynch today



On October 25 2015 02:36 Eversince wrote:
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On October 25 2015 02:13 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll sheep you Rels. I'm burned out and I have no motivation to put more effort here. I'll whoever you want to lynch today


I hate this quote too. I like Boxer's/ Rels points on Glowing too.

But there is no reason for town to not want to put effort in here. If we don't, we lose.


This is the last time she mentions GB in her filter.


Ok.
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October 30 2015 15:07 GMT
#2169
I'll be filter diving at 5pm today. Then I will bring results.

Yes. It's scheduled
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October 30 2015 16:03 GMT
#2171
On October 31 2015 01:00 The Shining wrote:
Lol I swear to God GB


I'll read your case.

At 18 o clock here.
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October 30 2015 21:58 GMT
#2172
Ok I've messed up with my schedules and I'm gonna be late with this thing.
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October 30 2015 23:33 GMT
#2176
Vonthin: why is the shining town?
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October 31 2015 00:13 GMT
#2177
I've just finished reading Vonthin filter and I'm heading to Shining's.

Unfortunately I'm going to a party in like 15 minutes. Let me see if I can finish it before that.
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October 31 2015 00:45 GMT
#2180
There Is no possibility that I am town and he is scum?
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October 31 2015 03:12 GMT
#2182
On October 31 2015 10:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
So basically vonthin I'd like you to go through the shining's case and talk about your mindset in the situations he describes. Specificaly the stuff that takes place AFTER your 9 initial posts

GB, play the fucking game you have promised content so much


Tomorrow morning

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October 31 2015 05:01 GMT
#2188
On October 31 2015 13:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
frick, can you blame me for not wanting to let gb get away with such a scummy game?


I will not get away. I have plenty of reasons to believe Vonthin is mafia. But I'm only building a case when I finish reading shining.

I will sleep now. Tomorrow will be the day.
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October 31 2015 15:19 GMT
#2192
I've been busy. Sorry.
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October 31 2015 16:21 GMT
#2193
Okay, guys. I've messed up. I thought I would have time to do shit. I won't.

I wanted to bring a lot of things I've found on Vonthin and make a tidy case. It won't be possible.

Anyway, after reading Vonthin's filter, his first posts looked actually very townie. The problem is the page 3 of his filter.

If you go to page three, you will see that he says Boxerfred is 100% scum, but he never votes him. Instead, he starts to push a "team" of Farah and Boxerfred, hard pushing Farah instead.

Then he makes a team of GB/BF. Then he votes me. If Boxerfred is 100% scum, why voting me first?

Plus, why does he consider "teams" up to the lynch? He said repeatedly "GB/BF" and "ES/Farah", conveniently paring a scum to a townie, AND PUSHING THE TOWNIES from those teams. Never the scum.

This is the main argument on why Vonthin is mafia.

Other argument are the night kills. All the dead townies were suspecting Vonthin. But especially Farah. Why is Farah dead instead of any of the confirmed? Because she was on the right track and with her dead the Roleblocker wasn't in risk of being lynched. It was better to have the townie with the correct reads dead than risk losing the game. And Farah suspected Vonthin

Finally, but weak: drunk bear can't be wrong twice.

##Vote: Vonthin

Unfortunately, I probably won't have time to double check Shining, but I have enough reasons to lynch Vonthin.

FF, I'm not mafia. I swear I'm town. If you lose this game because I'm mafia I will never be against you policy lymching me in any other games.

I swear I'm town.
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October 31 2015 16:30 GMT
#2194
It is perfect. If you pair a scum and a town you can always get towncred from the lynch and go full throttle against the paired townie.

Farah gets shot, Vonthin goes for the Boxerfred/GB, starts lynching GB but joins Boxerfred wagon when he looks very bad. Then votes me without giving a single thought on Eversince, and never think shining could be scum. Just "kill GB kill GB kill GB"
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October 31 2015 16:34 GMT
#2195
Another thing: just to show how they overvalued the roleblocker: day1 Votecount shows a bus occurred
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October 31 2015 16:35 GMT
#2196
I mean, no, I'm stupid.
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October 31 2015 16:40 GMT
#2197
I mean YES, I'm not stupid.
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October 31 2015 19:02 GMT
#2200
On November 01 2015 03:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Frick


I've done what I've could inside my schedule. I'm sorry I couldn't do more. But the only way shining is mafia is if Vonthin is town. Because I'm town. And everything points to Vonthin being magia

I'm drunk again and my drunk senses are already pointing out to Vonthin.

Trust drunk bear.
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October 31 2015 19:08 GMT
#2201
Actually drunk senses are pointing out that shining is the last scum

ARGH

What do I do

I have

ARGH

I don't know
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October 31 2015 19:23 GMT
#2206
On November 01 2015 04:18 The Shining wrote:
lol if you're town and sincerely think I'm scum, why the fuck would I not just vote you and afk this shitty last day?

I still think it's Vonthin. Dude doesn't even care about EoD, said he wouldn't be here. And tbh GB being so damn wrong all game is actually a town tell to me. Can't tell you how any times I've seen GB tunnel townies as town.

My vote stays. Vonthin is scum. Lynch Vonthin or lose the game, idc.

SKT won League Worlds so I refuse to let this bring me down


Tbf you could've just vote him if he is town just so you can pull this argument.

But this is wifom. Don't let the alcohol wifom you
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October 31 2015 20:52 GMT
#2242
Farah MVP

I'm drunk

DRUNK BEAR CAN'T BE WRONG TWICE YEAAAAH
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October 31 2015 20:53 GMT
#2243
Anyway, I think scum team did very fucking well, congratulations. Only one thing you guys messed up: killing Farah instead of a confirmed townie.
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October 31 2015 21:07 GMT
#2245
On November 01 2015 05:58 Eversince wrote:
I think killing Farah was fine. I wasn't involved in that vote but as best as I can understand;

There was no way of leaving Farah/Shining up.

Neither would vote the other, so the only option Vonthin really had was to risk leaving the confirmed up and rollin' the dice. It did come really close for him. Much closer than I think it would of been if he hadn't chose to kill Farah.


It doesn't matter how right Farah was, you've judst narrowed the options in LYLO.

I felt free to discuss only shining and Vonthin. FecalFeast wasn't a problem to me.

You've reduced your chance of getting alive from 33% to 25% basically

That's my opinion
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October 31 2015 23:10 GMT
#2269
You did well, Eversince. I actually think the whole scum team did well.

Welcome to TL Mafia and I hope you guys enjoyed it.

PS: Damdy, your wife is better than you
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October 31 2015 23:17 GMT
#2270
On November 01 2015 08:00 Damdred wrote:
I'm sure Farah will come by in a bit to really give her thoughts but I'll just post some feelings.

1) The day one lynch on Scott was acceptable, it was OK couldn't blame anyone for it. Its unfortunate that the case by farah wasn't sheeped (I thought it was quite strong).

2) Early on especially the veteran town ignored the newbies to a certain extent. In the cases of GB and LM refused to read the case or really comment on it. Especially since this is a new game horrendoua , generally speaking newbs will learn more by interacting.

3) The SL kill was where it got a bit odd. It was OK just odd.

4) The boxer claim wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. I understand the plan was to make GB boxer a team in the eyes of the game. The plan was excellent and for the say and a half following it worked.The problem is the plan hinged on vonthan doing more work and looking Towny.

The two ways to accomplish this was accomplished partly needing Farah dead and people alive to tunnel GB. Imo the best course of action would be kill farah, then kill shining.

It doesn't matter confirmed vs non confirmed it matters people trying to solve the game vs people who aren't. Nk would of been great in a final three with GB vont amd rels.

Scum te played well a couple of gutsy town decisions won it.

Gj


This would have been bad imo cause they would take 2 confirmed townies to LYLO + it would be obvious it would be to frame me
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November 01 2015 02:32 GMT
#2282
Well I've just read scott saying he lost his respect for me.

I'm sorry, scott, but this game burned me out and I just couldn't play it anymore after moosy's flip. Also, I've got pretty busy. I do, however, look forward to play with you again in the future because I like you and I think I can read you pretty well lately.

I won't be playing for a while (HOORAY for most people!). I will be hanging around, tho.

Thank you guys for all the good time I've spent here. Although I have had some heated discussions in here lately, I wish all the best to you guys and I'm leaving with no hard feelings.

I would like to explain my play in this game. Until Moosy's flip, I was playing a very straight forward game and I tried to be very strict and serious with what I've posted. This was because a lot of players criticised The way I play, especially Rayn.

But when I saw that Moosy wasn't scum my willingness to play died. It just felt the effort I was trying to put in shaping my play wasn't worth it. And that's it.

By the way, Kelsier, I'm sorry for being bad manner with you in this game, and I hope you didn't get offended. In the end, I really appreciate the way you play.

I think that's all

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#2285
On November 01 2015 12:17 scott31337 wrote:
GB - I don't want to comment about your other game - but if Shining didn't pull off the epic case - it would've been really bad. I give him MVP for it.

I was a little frustrated and drunk when I posted that in the OBS QT - If you are town in LYLO - pull out all the stops, drinking can wait I've borked two lylo's myself - and I've learned from my mistakes. You did well enough to have Shining think you are "too scummy/don't care to be scum" and it worked this time.

No hard feelings to be honest, GB. I apologize if that was a little harsh. Can we roll together again?

Edit - your last wall of text post actually had some good feelings in it and may have sealed it for FF to sheep Shining's case - you just didn't do it earlier, and there's so many excuses you can use until you are scum read.


No no, it's fine, I completely understand hahaha I just don't like to annoy people and seeing that you considered not playing with me again (I understand you didn't mean it), I get upset because there are some people I'll always like to play with.

Yes, we can roll together

By the way, I had so much I wanted to talk about Vonthin by that time, but I really screwed up with schedules. This time I was really willing to do some hard work, but obligations and social life consumed me (I actually had a beer festival scheduled for today afternoon that I couldn't postpone lol)
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November 01 2015 03:46 GMT
#2286
And Shining, that one was an awesome catch, gj!

I think most players in here played very well, but I can't emphasized how impressed I am for Farah's townplay. Not only she found scum on day1 but the was able to town read me soon and accurately. Gj!
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#2291
On November 01 2015 20:17 KelsierSC wrote:
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On November 01 2015 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Well I've just read scott saying he lost his respect for me.

I'm sorry, scott, but this game burned me out and I just couldn't play it anymore after moosy's flip. Also, I've got pretty busy. I do, however, look forward to play with you again in the future because I like you and I think I can read you pretty well lately.

I won't be playing for a while (HOORAY for most people!). I will be hanging around, tho.

Thank you guys for all the good time I've spent here. Although I have had some heated discussions in here lately, I wish all the best to you guys and I'm leaving with no hard feelings.

I would like to explain my play in this game. Until Moosy's flip, I was playing a very straight forward game and I tried to be very strict and serious with what I've posted. This was because a lot of players criticised The way I play, especially Rayn.

But when I saw that Moosy wasn't scum my willingness to play died. It just felt the effort I was trying to put in shaping my play wasn't worth it. And that's it.

By the way, Kelsier, I'm sorry for being bad manner with you in this game, and I hope you didn't get offended. In the end, I really appreciate the way you play.

I think that's all



I didn't realise you were being bad mannered but apology accepted


I've said "you suck" XD
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November 01 2015 17:38 GMT
#2292
On November 01 2015 14:48 Eversince wrote:
Aww, it's bound to happen I think Glowing. Schedules are subject to change without much notice.
I don't see a point in arguing you'd not play with someone because of it. Maby if it was your 3'rd game and you'd afked your way through all of them. Farah did really good. I think she had the entire mafia team squared by late D3. The only thing that gave her pause (Obs QT) was you/Vonthin.



I'll repeat that you've played a very good game, as most of the scum team. I think the only slip you had IMO was not caring for SL's and Rels' claims. Other than that, great job

Keep playing, newbies, cause TL Mafia needs people with your skills
I'm adorable.
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