EPT[M][N] Mini Mafia: The (kinda) Vanilla Experience - Page 85
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Xatalos
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Blazinghand
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GlowingBear
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But I'm not scum. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On October 25 2015 10:43 GlowingBear wrote: I hardly believe any scum would put so much effort in a case like that on me. But I'm not scum. But does his case hold water? Like the meta? I havent fully read it yet. I am getting some sleep now. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Day 2 Vote Count Xatalos (2): raynpelikoneet, Onegu raynpelikoneet (1): Xatalos GlowingBear (1): Chromatically Not listed (7): Vivax, Blazinghand, gumshoe, GlowingBear, Hopeless1der, ritoky, yamato77 Looks like it's time to sack Xatalos for being a traitor! Day 2 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The quality control list is here. The automated list counter is here. Only votes on this list will be counted. Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill. | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On October 25 2015 09:46 Chromatically wrote: What was it that Xata said that made zero sense? | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
Xatalos is very likely town based on his activity and his clear drive to figure out the game alone. rayn/Onegu, I think you should step back from the game and see that Xatalos is one of the few people really trying to figure out this game. That's not enough to prove him town, but it's really a very strong argument for it and I think there's no way he is the best lynch today. Xatalos, I think you really have to stop considering everything through the lens of rayn being mafia. There's always a chance that rayn is town, and if your read on him is wrong you don't want every other mafia read you've made to be wrong. You should consider everything based on what's objectively scummy now, and then worry about associations later once we have a mafia flip. That's not to say you should stop pursuing rayn if you think he's the most scummy, but don't make that assumption as a basis for all of your other reads. I agree that I am liking Onegu less and less. Why would you ask GB if the case on him holds water? There's certainly no drive to figure out the game. I didn't like some of the other stuff he said today either (suspicion on ritoky and gumshoe, meta read on rayn seemed kind of like TMI). rayn, can you answer my questions about GB and Hopeless?  I'm sorry if this post came across as me trying to lecture others. I don't mean to lecture and I don't think I'm a better player than the others in this game. | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On October 25 2015 09:46 Chromatically wrote: What was it that Xata said that made zero sense? This question is for Onegu to answer, in case he doesn't see it. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On October 25 2015 12:17 Onegu wrote: But does his case hold water? Like the meta? I havent fully read it yet. I am getting some sleep now. I don't know, I haven't read the case since I'm town, so that automatically makes his case completely wrong | ||
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Vivax
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Vivax
22372 Posts
On October 24 2015 18:03 marvellosity wrote: just popping in to say i'm not playing this game until either xata or i are dead, because apparently i'm not allowed to replace out because i loathe playing with someone this game. Good news marv is going to play the game now. Oh wait. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
The correct deadline times are now reflected in the latest daypost and in my Day 2 vote counts. (Rels will update the OP when he wakes up.) This said, North American players will revert to their 1700 ET deadline when they fall back next week. | ||
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Vivax
22372 Posts
So Xata, ritoky, gumshoe probably town. Never felt a reason to question that besides when Xata found the tinfoil hat I'm seeming to miss this game, that made me curious but doesn't give me much reason to doubt the alignment still. BH dropped off the town list, he has entered the circle of crap now and it's D2 so he can quit the act now. I'll, take a closer look at him after posting this. Chrom is still null cause his posting to me still feels very...controlled. Now this feels important: It seems like he's out there with his thoughts but the way he packages them and always only posts stuff that seems relevant gives me the feeling he tries to fulfill his duties but doesn't really have fun playing. I guess his ritoky joke was an exception but it felt so dry that I get doubts whether he thought he was actually being funny. Reminder to check if he's always this boring and to the point in every game. GlowingBear is still mafia and I don't think I need to add more to the reasons for thinking that. And rayn keeps saying that too but then finds another target to maneuver to. I've been noticing this trend since D1 but attributed this to his ego thinking there's a better target. However at EoD I vividly remember him saying how mafia GB is while going for Slam and I was totally expecting him to be with me on him at the start of D2. No way jose, he yet found another guy to choose over GB and now that's really itching me to the point I stopped wearing the eyepatch with town rayn stitched on the inside. | ||
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Vivax
22372 Posts
Meta wise I find him a tough nut to crack, so I'm going with the towny thingy for content, effort etc. . I just feel like he stands more on my side of things with his content in this game as opposed to say rayn, Onegu who I currently don't trust. Actually everyone who's suspicious of Xata makes me itch inside. I'm going with hopeless town for reasons of sanity and cause he actually didn't post that little, even though the content quality remains the usual. Scum is among yamato/rayn/GB/Onegu/BH. Contributing to this game means finding out who the two townies are. | ||
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Vivax
22372 Posts
On October 25 2015 13:55 Chromatically wrote: rayn/Onegu, I think you should step back from the game and see that Xatalos is one of the few people really trying to figure out this game. That's not enough to prove him town, but it's really a very strong argument for it and I think there's no way he is the best lynch today. I agree that I am liking Onegu less and less. Why would you ask GB if the case on him holds water? There's certainly no drive to figure out the game. I didn't like some of the other stuff he said today either (suspicion on ritoky and gumshoe, meta read on rayn seemed kind of like TMI). Actually I'm putting Chrom back to null cause I feel like these two parts from the last post feel strange to me for the fact he's talking to rayn and Onegu in that moderating way, then voices suspicion about Onegu. Shouldn't he be like: "I'm also suspicious of Onegu cause he's attacking Xatalos who I think is really obvious town"? Oh god he's so hard to decide on -_- | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
Vivax: do you think rayn and GB are doing some sort of long-term double bus plan? That sparked my interest. It's a bit hard to believe because they both actually seemed content with lynching each other at points during D1... And from what I gather, they still want to lynch each other even now. However, it could be interesting to have votes focused on rayn/GB today. If they would indeed both be scum, it should show in how the day plays out in that case. Let's make that happen if possible. Chromatically: I am considering that GB could be scum even with the anti-association to rayn (although that might not be as strong as I thought?). It's just that rayn/Onegu seem to fit well as scum together, and both have extremely much dropped in their performance going into D2. Both are also voting for me... Even though I'd say I'm objectively at the highest level of obv-towniness on meta alone. Similar, or more compared to Vivax. I'd say the scumteam is rayn+Onegu+Yamato/GB (with MAYBE Hopeless/Chromatically/BH in there). Which makes me sad, because both rayn and Onegu were up for lynch right until the end on D1. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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Xatalos
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Vivax
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
Still not completely decided on GB myself... And I would prefer rayn/Onegu for today. | ||
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