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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 24 2015 21:40 GMT
#1581
On October 24 2015 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
yeah yamato was much less sexy than i hoped eod 1

meh

i have no strong townreads, maybe vivax still
think chrome is mafia but that's probably wrong too


Hm... Not too much to gain from marv's last readpost...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 24 2015 21:59 GMT
#1582
On October 25 2015 05:48 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 11:15 gumshoe wrote:
Ritoky's switch onto Onegu last second makes very little sense as scum, if Onegu is town and gets bussed last sec, Ritoky looks terrible. If Onegue is scum, he just helped kill his teamate 0_0 seems like a dumb and unnecessary risk when town is already fixated on slam.

It's possible Ritoky was super confident Bh's lynch wouldn't go through, but then why bother at all? Just to distance himself from the slam lynch? Could backfire huge if Onegu actually did get lynched (would look like a last second buss off of Ritoky's buddy slam)



This post makes absolutely no sense. First do you really think with the 5 minutes in which BH came in people were going to switch.

And lets say there were last second switch onto me. Why is ritoky going to look terrible. Everyone knows voting analysis is terrible day one. And once I flip town what are you dumbasses going to do? You arent going to lynch ritoky you are going to be like everyone is terrible and we should have lynched slam yesterday we are going to lynch him today. Ritoky is scott free.

Every point here is bad. What looks worse is you giving me a town read but then saying you would vote me but then not.

Ritoky also voting because someone says so then once the mislynch is secured he moves onto another townie because it makes him not on a town play during the flip.

Gumshoe pointing this out and trying to make him look better bothers me alot.

Blazinghand gets the same thing as Ritoky. Why try to shennanie on me. Because BH knows if there is shennanies from a player like slam onto another town player means that slam is the focus for most of day 2. It is a win win.

Out of the 2 though I would say ritoky is the more suspicious of the 2. And would lynch him first.


There are a few more things I want to look into.

I really dont get xata's attacks of rayn and Marv. Like are his reads just that shit. Like most of my body wants to believe that.

I dont see a way Rayn is scum here. I just dont. The way he reacted to me. The way his reads are changing. His reaction to Slam being town and being lynched. This all comes from town rayn.

I am 99% giving my soul read on him.

Could also lynch hopeless here. Like I baited him and he did nothing about it and just went after easy lynches even after threatening me. His reads seem to just go along with thread sentiment.

Everyone else is fairly null to me.

I need to look at a few more things.

Really need to take a new look at Yamato. Really had a town feeling yesterday but meh.


use your brain plox, slam has a enough of wagon to get lynched. Ritoky jumps on a last second train to avoid the slam lynch. You flip town, Ritoky looks like he was bieng super oportunistic scum saving a player enough people considered scummy to lynch, he flips scum????? he kills his buddy for no reason? Ritoky coulda just afked through the lynch which was already set up for scum.

The only reason to get tangled up in a last second vote switch in that postion is to try and lynch actual scum. Only way it wasnt is if Ritoky is certain the lynch will fail, which again, is retardedly risky. Ritoky is town 0_0 if you dont see it your dumbs.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 24 2015 22:04 GMT
#1583
Or scum...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 24 2015 22:12 GMT
#1584
Maybe I'll take a break from TL Mafia after this for a while...

There's a bit too much drama for some reason. The Vendetta Strada games were all very enjoyable, and Diplomacy games are generally very enjoyable too, but they were full of drama and rage in the TL Diplomacy games. At least the later ones, the first ones were fine.

Why does it have to go into issues of personality and ad hominem.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 24 2015 22:17 GMT
#1585
Meh... I guess it's not always easy to avoid it in games like this.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 24 2015 22:20 GMT
#1586
But for marv to be shot when he wasn't even playing... I must be on the wrong track in some form or another.

Maybe I'll sleep on it and look at things tomorrow.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 24 2015 22:20 GMT
#1587
Me being lynched there and flipping town I guarentee wouldnt have put any pressure on ritoky or BH. People would have just been like you guys are stupid Slam is scum why did you go on Onegu when this is his town meta.

It would have been that 100%

Ritoky moving is at best NAI

In no way at all should it get him a town read.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 24 2015 22:21 GMT
#1588
gumshoe: my earlier post referring to the fact that Onegu could well be doing that discrediting as scum, not out of stupidity.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 24 2015 22:21 GMT
#1589
Tbh I am waiting for Yamato to finish playing CS and come in here and do work...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 24 2015 22:22 GMT
#1590
Them I must be scum because I am by far the smartest person on this thread...
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 24 2015 22:27 GMT
#1591
On October 25 2015 07:20 Onegu wrote:
Me being lynched there and flipping town I guarentee wouldnt have put any pressure on ritoky or BH. People would have just been like you guys are stupid Slam is scum why did you go on Onegu when this is his town meta.

It would have been that 100%

Ritoky moving is at best NAI

In no way at all should it get him a town read.


It's not a major part of why I townread him anyway. And still... Your post is assuming that A) you're town (I guess that's understandable from your point of view, if you're town, but not objectively) and that B) ritoky was certain the shenanigans wouldn't cause the lynch to switch into any unfavorable direction when Slam was already being lynched. I've certainly seen very fast shenanigans lynches in the last minutes before. Why bother? It was all set for scum already.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 24 2015 22:28 GMT
#1592
Your post also assumes that rayn is town since the shenanigans were clearly threatening rayn's life too.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 24 2015 22:33 GMT
#1593
On October 25 2015 07:28 Xatalos wrote:
Your post also assumes that rayn is town since the shenanigans were clearly threatening rayn's life too.



I am assuming rayn is town. He is like my best read right now. This is town rayn to a tee.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 24 2015 22:34 GMT
#1594
Like go look at BttB mafia that he replaced into. This is how he is as town. As scum he wouldnt care that much.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 24 2015 22:36 GMT
#1595
i mean, to me this just tells me you guys haven't clicked my filter. please stop ascribing motives to me and why i did things around the vote. my first post is "i am bad, and plan to sheep the towniest dude/dudette". yes it was pre-planned. yes i was doing it regardless of alignment. yes i felt BH was most town last phase. it's a real pointless discussion since i am 5000% town and everyone knows it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 24 2015 22:38 GMT
#1596
CS has consumed my life
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 24 2015 22:40 GMT
#1597
On October 25 2015 07:12 Xatalos wrote:
Maybe I'll take a break from TL Mafia after this for a while...

There's a bit too much drama for some reason. The Vendetta Strada games were all very enjoyable, and Diplomacy games are generally very enjoyable too, but they were full of drama and rage in the TL Diplomacy games. At least the later ones, the first ones were fine.

Why does it have to go into issues of personality and ad hominem.


to be fair you instigated a lot of it yourself or if you don't want to talk that level of culpability you harbored a portion of it yourself. mafia is a game of people who wanna have big dicks, egos get bruised every game and if they aren't being bruised than tbh ppl aren't playing hard enough.

but then there are anomalies like me who understand their penis is small and have adjusted their life accordingly.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 24 2015 22:43 GMT
#1598
i remember thinking hopeless was town cuz he kept prodding me and was funny. what happened to that guy? did he die irl?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 24 2015 22:43 GMT
#1599
dear GB, give a read on me; with details!

thanks bae
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 24 2015 22:46 GMT
#1600
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