On October 23 2015 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have a question. Xatalos do you seriously think Blazinghand - as town - believes that lynching by RNG on D1 has the best chances of hitting mafia? Like do you SERIOUSLY believe that?
depending on the setup of the game and the structure of PRs, yes.
really? when he himself just argued it's less likely to hit mafia then not rng lycnhing?
it's actually equally as likely, so i disagree with your premise entirely.
it's actually really simple. i mean i guess it's pretty simple for me cuz i read like 10 of BH's games in the recent past so i could accurately impersonate him. here's your guide to reading BH:
Did he RNG immediately @ the start of the game: if yes -> 80% chance to be town; if no -> 80% chance to be mafia
Did he push the RNG target or just leave it there like a dead fish: if push -> 95% chance to be town; if dead fish - 50% chance to be mafia
Did he gather reads from people arguing with him about why they are better than RNG: yes - DING DING DING town; i don't know he hasn't given reads - 75% town; no - 50% town
On October 23 2015 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have a question. Xatalos do you seriously think Blazinghand - as town - believes that lynching by RNG on D1 has the best chances of hitting mafia? Like do you SERIOUSLY believe that?
depending on the setup of the game and the structure of PRs, yes.
really? when he himself just argued it's less likely to hit mafia then not rng lycnhing?
it's actually equally as likely, so i disagree with your premise entirely.
Mafia players are lynched 26.0% of the time on day one. Random lynching would result in a mafia lynch 25.2% of the time. Mafia players are lynched only 16.4% of the time in newbie games on day one, so excluding these games brings the overall day one lynch percentage up to 28.1%!
I believe this is not a newbie game so you are just straight out lying.
On October 23 2015 16:01 GlowingBear wrote: I seriously don't understand why I'm being scumread.
Could you please enlighten me?
Because you are pushing a bad reasoned read. Because the way you defend yourself is exactly what you do as scum. Because you said you reda the thread but you actually didn't, not even close.
On October 23 2015 16:01 GlowingBear wrote: I seriously don't understand why I'm being scumread.
Could you please enlighten me?
Because you are pushing a bad reasoned read. Because the way you defend yourself is exactly what you do as scum. Because you said you reda the thread but you actually didn't, not even close.
Rayn, you are filling your "everyone else is so scum j can't decide" scum meta
On October 23 2015 06:47 Xatalos wrote: So instead of what's stupid, what do you think is... scummy/towny?
I liked marv's pressure of GB. I had issue with what GB posted myself and it makes me feel better about him.
GB, on the other hand, hasn't posted anything outside of what I believe he could post as mafia, so I'm still quite suspicious of him.
Hm... I guess I agree. Though doesn't your last sentence make him null instead of suspicious?
No, it makes him suspicious.
yamato i am pretty sure GlowingBear is town here. Basically he says really scummy shit that makes absolutely no sense as mafia, because he doesn't really know what to do at all (i assume). Here he has some sort of a thought process going on in his head. Basically it's highly unlike he is scum here.
Same goes for Hopeless, he tried to do stuff. He is just doing it in his own way that looks scummy to basically everyone.. always.
I am really really sure ritoky is mafia. I am also quite sure Slam is scum because of process of elimination. Xatalos is probably just really fucking dumb atm, but at least his explanation to BH thing makes some sense, unlike ritoky's. ritoky basically argues that Blazinghand is town based on illogical arguments, or arguments that are easily proven wrong. Like even if he believes those arguments are true the read is shit and arguing the read is good for those things is something that a townie never does.
Last scum is probably Blazinghand or Onegu. I kinda think it's Onegu atm, since Blazinghand seems to be trying to do something and getting something out of his shennies at the start of the game. I don't believe gumshoe is scum, basically his reacation towards me doesn't make any sense as mafia. He is right in that i suually pressure him every game we are in and i know he acts differently when he is scum than when he is town. I just don't see him being scum here.
Vivax is basically his own paranoid town self with a portion of good logical thoughts. marv is almost definitely town. you are almost definitely town. Chromatically seems to be the most level headed person in this game. It's like not totally out of question he is scum here but most likely he is just town as his posting suggests.
On October 23 2015 16:01 GlowingBear wrote: I seriously don't understand why I'm being scumread.
Could you please enlighten me?
Because you are pushing a bad reasoned read. Because the way you defend yourself is exactly what you do as scum. Because you said you reda the thread but you actually didn't, not even close.
It was ritoky me be or Onegu earlier wasn't it?
All over the place. Pointing everywhere because your compass is on magnetic north.
On October 23 2015 16:01 GlowingBear wrote: I seriously don't understand why I'm being scumread.
Could you please enlighten me?
Because you are pushing a bad reasoned read. Because the way you defend yourself is exactly what you do as scum. Because you said you reda the thread but you actually didn't, not even close.
I've actually read this thread more closely than any recent games I've played. You should be able to tell by the time stamps. I've spent almost 3 hours reading and thinking about it.
I think my reasons are fair enough to vote Vivax. He has yet to explain the townreads, his activity dropped, his reads are static. I think this makes Vivax mafia. If you don't, fair enough. But I don't understand how you can possibly believe I, as mafia, would call both you and marv town while disagreeing with your top town reads.
I defended myself by using logic. Thinking someone is scum and asking questions doesn't make my read premeditated. I will always further investigate what I find suspicious.
On October 23 2015 07:12 Xatalos wrote: Has anyone played with town rayn in like the last months? Has he become this... "shifty", hard to grasp as town too?
EPT
