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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 23:38 GMT
#2690
Hm... I think there could potentially still be scum within ritoky/Chromatically too. What do you think, BH? I think I'll go to sleep soon though.. Feels like it would be a huge (unnecessary) risk to lynch one of them today.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 00:06 GMT
#2693
Fair enough... I was just having doubts when rayn described his scum meta as "picking a target and tunneling him until the end of time". But I guess he did switch away from me already...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 11:08 GMT
#2829
On October 28 2015 13:46 ritoky wrote:
i personally think there's at least 1 between gb and hopeless.

as i said before if gb is mafia there is GUARANTEED 1 between gumdrop, vivax, and xata.


I don't think it's "guaranteed", but yeah, it would make some sense to lynch GB information-wise... Especially compared to hopeless.. Honestly I'm fine with any of the trio dying today. My vote is just on Onegu because I have the hardest time believing he's town.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 11:13 GMT
#2830
Hah, I hope ritoky vs gumshoe doesn't start a new rage fest
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 11:16 GMT
#2831
Uh, ritoky giving flashbacks of myself on D1... But I think paranoia usually a towny quality, so I won't hold it against him, I guess...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 11:27 GMT
#2832
On October 28 2015 14:55 gumshoe wrote:
##unvote

##vote Gb


sorry gb ) : I dont have a good way to clear you anymore, it's on you,


>.>
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 11:34 GMT
#2833
On October 28 2015 18:10 Vivax wrote:
who are the mediocre players u speak of gb?


I guess referring to me? Can't disagree my D1 wasn't particularly productive going against marv and rayn like that... But from now on, I'll just go along with my most town reads because I can't really be certain I have a clue what's going on in this game...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 11:49 GMT
#2834
On October 28 2015 14:25 Chromatically wrote:
Just checked, gumshoe is definitely town because I think he posts differently as mafia than he does here and as town. It seems like his tone is much more serious as mafia, and definitely not as interested in finding mafia. Plus his mafia games have 2, 2, 2, and 4 page filters total (idk how convincing filter length argument is but it's easy and feels good). I guess it could just be a coincidence that lurker gumshoe showed up for his mafia games, but I don't think that gumshoe would be able to play like this as mafia.

Town game (real similar to here):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444078-cultured-mini-mafia?user=gumshoe
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/446774-world-heavyweight-championship-mafia-ii?user=gumshoe

Mafia:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/448443-you-only-shoot-once-mafia?user=gumshoe
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445571-doctor-who-mafia-2?user=gumshoe
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445063-handslaps-and-fisticuff-a-pyp-mini?user=gumshoe
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/441596-gsl-open-mini-mafia-iv?user=gumshoe


Posts like this make it harder to tinfoil that Chromatically is scum...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 11:54 GMT
#2835
On October 28 2015 15:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Let me be sincere here:

I'm completely demotivated to play. Partly because I've burned out of playing mafia, partly because I can't stand coming to a promising game, liking playing it, but then facing medium tier players overvaluating themselves and promoting shitfests, and players that signs in to simply not play the game. It's like playing chess with a wall.

I'm not certain on anyone but Vivax. Vivax has displayed some townie posts, I must agree, but his overall gameplay seems scummy to me. He doesn't feel engaged to win. He hasn't done anything memorable.

The rest I can call scummy for whatever reasons. At this point I want to lynch everybody and be the last man standing.

No, I won't make a case on Vivax. I've spent 3-4 hours re reading day one, talked about Vivax, said we should keep slam and yamato to read later, and that we should go against Onegu and hopeless, just to be called mafia right after. It's boring. Then it's day3, and people are considering a team of me/Onegu/hopeless ROFLMAO. I won't waste my time.

I will be hanging here and give some opinions on whatever I find relevant and vote people accordingly to how I feel comfortable.



For the record, I kind of thought this post could be coming from town? Again the same feeling as at D1 end.

But since it seems that you like to bus, GB, I'm not really dye how GB/Onegu/hopeless could be ruled out. Even if I think you and hopeless have potential to be town. But ritoky's paranoia and Chromatically's continued balanced effort makes me want to townread them more today too..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 11:55 GMT
#2836
gumshoe's Vivax tinfoil came to mind, but really... Vivax is totally apathetic as scum in my experience,
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 12:05 GMT
#2837
Hmm... Theoretically, I guess ritoky/Onegu could make sense based on ritoky's reluctance to lynch Onegu starting from the original shenanigans... But why would he then jump on Onegu in the first place? Perhaps thinking that it was too late anyway? Well, it's still risky.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 12:07 GMT
#2838
Btw I agree that Onegu's reaction to the NK was odd. It's as if he thought it was natural/expected. What's more, I'm not sure where he pulled Xatalos/hopeless since rayn was mainly scumreading GB and ritoky at the end?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 12:09 GMT
#2839
Hm... I think there may be something to gumshoe's theory, but I think it's a bit too WIFOMy to make our reads based on our assumptions about the last NK. It could well be that they just thought he had potential to be dangerous as a veteran player, like marv.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 13:17 GMT
#2841
On October 28 2015 21:55 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2015 15:08 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 28 2015 14:07 Chromatically wrote:
Ehhhh I really don't agree with that. gumshoe and Xatalos were both of the mindset that yamato scum = GB town, which was pretty reasonable. So they'd want to see the yamato flip before killing GB. Even I thought it would be a mistake to double lynch without considering info from the flip.


This is bullshit. If you think I'm mafia like you show you think I am you vote me 100%.

Tell me how yamato flipping mafia would clear me. And I want YOU to tell me, not anyone else.

What? It doesn't matter what I say, I wasn't convinced yamato mafia would clear you. The point is that Xatalos and gumshoe clearly thought it would.


Agreed...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 15:21 GMT
#2845
You're adorable.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 15:24 GMT
#2846
Seriously though.. Hm.. I guess it's not a *bad* option to lynch GB. I still think Onegu is more likely scum, though, so maybe you should reconsider gumshoe? Like I see GB actually thinking about the game, but Onegu is just using his votes in ways that contradict his stances, and generally not being coherent with what he posts.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 15:27 GMT
#2847
From Onegu :D

Also dont worry people, I will still figure this game out in lylo, I am the best lylo player ever as you all should know by now.

"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 15:33 GMT
#2848
On October 24 2015 04:32 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 04:23 Xatalos wrote:
Onegu... Are you really sure about your rayn read? Because you said that town rayn "wants you to do more". But here his reactions to you have been basically like "I don't want to talk with you", "shut up and sheep". Is that him wanting you to do more? Well, it's not exactly buddying either, but...



No not really but def dont think he is the lynch today. I wouldnt lynch him today for sure I am that comfortable.



On October 24 2015 04:59 Onegu wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: raynpelikoneet



Couldn't help but laugh
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 15:35 GMT
#2849
On October 25 2015 09:41 Onegu wrote:
Nope Rayn hasnt left yet. He is still town.

Xata is making zero sense here.

##Vote: Xata


Maybe I'm biased but this post really felt weird... There wasn't really either anything before this or any follow-up..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 28 2015 15:38 GMT
#2850
On October 26 2015 02:19 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 02:18 Xatalos wrote:
On October 26 2015 02:16 Onegu wrote:
##Unvote

Still dont like xata and his pushes that make no sense. But he really is the only one talking... I need to think about this more after football.

Football


You also didn't explain what makes no sense... Except your own posts I guess....



Your push on Marv. Your posts with rayn. They make no sense.

Football


There was this... But.... I guess I was ultimately wrong on rayn there, but still... Am I really sure scum just because my read is disagreeable?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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