[M][N] Mini Mafia: The (kinda) Vanilla Experience - Page 165

On October 30 2015 19:25 ritoky wrote:
i just stopped by cuz kid in middle of night. didn't really read much of what you posted there vivax cuz i don't trust my reading comprehension atm.

generally speaking you have made your way to the middle/lower end of my PoE because 1) your game investment and investment in the last lynch feels like it has gone down over time 2) you didn't lynch mafia 3) your tinfoil/crackpot theories have felt contained/not committed to.

a lot of that is my perception of you over the course of the game, but something about perception, reality, and their relationship.

On October 30 2015 19:38 Vivax wrote:


I tinfoil when I feel it's necessary, sometimes only late in the game, you should know that from Guardians of the Galaxy when I only scumread universally townread Toad the night I got killed.

My game investment is as high as it can be when my mafia meta is to have large posting gaps during a day. I feel I have been posting very consistently during the day.

And if you base your game around who lynches mafia and who doesn't without looking at it in detail you don't know how this game works.

And I also feel you should know your place when marv, rayn and yamato all TR me throughout their lives, people I've been playing with for several years.
Cause not only are they confirmed town, they're also not as new around here as you are and I figure that their reads are worth more than yours.

This is probably going to kinda piss you off but it's how it is. I keep reading their filters as well.

On October 30 2015 18:29 Vivax wrote:
I've started to doubt gumshoe since he started planting the idea that I'm mafia as opposed to people who are competent at reading me.

I was assuming his posting style made him town all game long but given that 2 mafia are planning the endgame now and he has started to doing all sorts of shady shit, I'm reevaluating.

Take a look at this post, it's from D1. When you look at the votecounts in question you will notice that nobody ever had a chance to kill Onegu cause marv and rayn were both on the slam wagon with huge support from others.

Point I'm making is that this read is weird given the information we have now, and suggests gumshoe had knowledge of how to read people around Onegu's alignment. Another example: When he went all nuts and Chrom-defender after I told Chrom that if he wanted Onegu's reads he could simply look them up.




As you will soon see, neither was ritoky's switch "last second" (it happened 12 min prior lynch), nor does it make sense for gumshoe to make the assumption that ritoky is town cause if Onegu was town ritoky would look terrible.

And I think this is a nail in the coffin type of argument already, cause now I'm explaining it like you're 12.

First of all, he's exaggerating the weight of what ritoky really did: Last second switch, killig Onegu when the majority was on Slam all the time and didn't have any intention to switch.
Second, he's making this argument in which he spews Onegu's alignment (and ritoky's with the entire post).

Second, he's using this logic:

"Since ritoky would look terrible if Onegu flipped town, he is town".

at a time where he couldn't possibly be certain on Onegu's alignment, and also wasn't in his scumreads posts.
He literally assumed 100 % that Onegu was mafia when making this post.

Here the relevant votes, for display:

On October 30 2015 22:21 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm....

Yeah, that's a bit odd. Would make sense if GB is scum with either hopeless or Vivax though.

On October 30 2015 22:23 Chromatically wrote:

Yeah, exactly because he needs two mislynches to win, so he can't survive if we lynch into {GB/Hopeless/Vivax} in that world. He has to convince people on gumshoe or someone else.