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Blazinghand
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Like if somehow both 1G and H1 are town I don't know if there's anything we can actually do to WIN, you know? Like we have to choose wether or not to lynch them, and I think we should
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:27 Xatalos wrote:
The situation is hopeless :/
I THINK ITS FINE
ITS FINE GUYS
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:28 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2015 06:26 Blazinghand wrote:On October 30 2015 06:25 gumshoe wrote:On October 30 2015 06:17 Blazinghand wrote:On October 30 2015 06:16 ritoky wrote:
i think there is no way it is a team of those 3. there's always a sneakster mafia.
onegu/hopeless/x most likely if onegu
gb/x/x most likely if gb. there's gotta be at least 2 scum in there though. who's scum if it's not AT LEAST 2 of those 3? from ritokys perspective, it would have to be xata vivax, cmon ritoky, why isnt hopeless voting onegu? If hopeless is the only scum between them, why not look more consistent and vote for the guy whose trying to kill you instead of doubling back on a guy you were null at best on, and town read at several points in the game? If hopeless is scum with gb, why vote him when he can just vote for onegu? the guy trying to kill him? In fact, why draw attention to himself with such a shitty vote for no reason?(might have resulted in his own lynch)? The only way hopeless DOESNT vote for onegu, and compromises himself in such a fashion is to protect his scum buddy, who has been bussing hopeless all this time to create some distanceIf hopeless is town, then hope is actually lost, and hes also insane for not voting onegu ) : cmon ritoky, yah got dis It's also worth noting that Onegu is currently trashing his vote by voting a non-wagon honestly the level of play of these guys is so bad, we just need to get rid of them that's an argument for day 1....or if you're arguing policy lynch them every game until they pick it up. not for the terrible situation we're in...
Honestly I think we're in a great situation. I really do. A good number of players have distinguished themselves with good or decent town play and we have a lynch pool of mafia with 1 flailing guy and 2 lurkers. I think we just kill these guys and win the game. really.
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Blazinghand
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Even if one of them IS town we go to 2-1 LYLO and we'll be fine.
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:29 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2015 06:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Like if somehow both 1G and H1 are town I don't know if there's anything we can actually do to WIN, you know? Like we have to choose wether or not to lynch them, and I think we should I know right? Its what I've been thinking all this time ) : though I've avoided saying that to Ritoky cause thats the kind of thing that would set a giant killer townie off "WHAT you think I cant win this game? NAY, I shall destroy these magical mobsters!"
hahaha, I know what you're saying.
Really though I think everyone needs to just stop freaking out. We stay the course. We lynch these guys, they flip scum, then afterwards we brag in post-game about how huge our-epeens are
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:31 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2015 06:29 Blazinghand wrote:On October 30 2015 06:28 ritoky wrote:On October 30 2015 06:26 Blazinghand wrote:On October 30 2015 06:25 gumshoe wrote:On October 30 2015 06:17 Blazinghand wrote:On October 30 2015 06:16 ritoky wrote:
i think there is no way it is a team of those 3. there's always a sneakster mafia.
onegu/hopeless/x most likely if onegu
gb/x/x most likely if gb. there's gotta be at least 2 scum in there though. who's scum if it's not AT LEAST 2 of those 3? from ritokys perspective, it would have to be xata vivax, cmon ritoky, why isnt hopeless voting onegu? If hopeless is the only scum between them, why not look more consistent and vote for the guy whose trying to kill you instead of doubling back on a guy you were null at best on, and town read at several points in the game? If hopeless is scum with gb, why vote him when he can just vote for onegu? the guy trying to kill him? In fact, why draw attention to himself with such a shitty vote for no reason?(might have resulted in his own lynch)? The only way hopeless DOESNT vote for onegu, and compromises himself in such a fashion is to protect his scum buddy, who has been bussing hopeless all this time to create some distanceIf hopeless is town, then hope is actually lost, and hes also insane for not voting onegu ) : cmon ritoky, yah got dis It's also worth noting that Onegu is currently trashing his vote by voting a non-wagon honestly the level of play of these guys is so bad, we just need to get rid of them that's an argument for day 1....or if you're arguing policy lynch them every game until they pick it up. not for the terrible situation we're in... Honestly I think we're in a great situation. I really do. A good number of players have distinguished themselves with good or decent town play and we have a lynch pool of mafia with 1 flailing guy and 2 lurkers. I think we just kill these guys and win the game. really. this level of contentment being so widespread makes me think if we just kill these 3 town will lose the game...but maybe i am too tinfoil for my own good. i do suck as town.
Ok but 1G and H1, as scum, would yes be discontent but they're basically non-posters. And GB is CLEARLY super discontent.
it's not "too easy" to lynch 1G. Let me FUCKING tell you, I have been trying to lynch this guy or shennannie onto this guy literally ALL GAME. GB has been in people's crosshairs ALL GAME. these two wagons are both culminations of like, 144+ hours of analysis.
If we were gonna shenanny out of 1G/H1/GB, I cant imagine it going well. who would we even lynch? who could you justify as better? And it's not liek 1G and H1 are gonna come into the thread and help or something, or prove themselves townie. Also: they're scum. we should lynch them
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Blazinghand
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LIke there's historically a trend of "people call 1G and GB scum, everyone agrrees they're scummy, and any time a lynch is gonna happen on them there's a ton of last minute resistance". This has happened eveyr time a wagon has formed on them. These are not easy lynches.
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:37 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2015 06:32 GlowingBear wrote:
PLEASE READ
~ If ONEGU is MAFIA
Then gumshoe is 100% mafia.
1) Gumshoe started strong townreading me when I was under heavy suspicions. He took every piece of evidence he could find to call me town.
Then, today, he decided to vote me. His excuse was "I had to go" because all of his townies were suspecting me and he couldn't waste another day of discussion.
The problem here is: he was also scumreading Onegu way before and his townreads were putting ME and ONEGU as obvious scum partners. If he thought I was town before, wouldn't it be better if he asked his townreads to vote me since, well, THEY WERE ALL SCUMREADING ONEGU AND ONEGU WAS ALREADY A COUNTER WAGON?
This makes no sense under a town perspective. If I have someone I'm at least not sure is town or mafia and if I have someone that I am scumreading since way before, who would I vote? Obviously the scum read.
The excuse that his townreads were scumreading me and that they couldn't waste more discussion on me is bullshit because his townreads were also scumreading Onegu and whoever survives from the team they've made will also have to be discussed on later days. It simply doesn't make sense.
2) When I've confronted gumshoe, he decided to respond it with an UNVOTE.
WITH. AN. UNVOTE.
Let me tell you again.
His townreads had me and onegu as mafia. He decided to vote me who he thought was town. When I confront him, he gets convinced I shouldn't be voted. But instead of going against Onegu, he UNVOTES without voting HIS OWN SCUMREAD which is SHARED WITH HIS TOWNREADS. WHY?
3) Then he decides to vote me because he didn't like my tone.
This guy is simply saying that after ALL THE EVIDENCE, after ALL THE POSTS HE QUOTED FROM ME to call me town, he thinks I am mafia out of a TONE READ. Again, why not voting Onegu?
4) When I reach majority with 5 votes, he finally decided to vote Onegu. In other words, he only votes his scumread when his former townread is dying anyways.
There is no way gumshoe isn't mafia with Onegu.
But in the case he is...
~ If ONEGU is TOWN
Then gumshoe is 100% town because there is no way he does all these scummy things with both wagons being town.
Well if gumshoe ends up being scum, he really deserves a nomination for best plays of 2015 and the win :D
Don't pay attention to this but if 1G flips scum: GB and 1G are scum and Gummie is town, GB trying to cast suspicion on Gummie for some reaosn
Of course this is all unflipped association that should not be paid attention to
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:39 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2015 06:37 Xatalos wrote:On October 30 2015 06:32 GlowingBear wrote:
PLEASE READ
~ If ONEGU is MAFIA
Then gumshoe is 100% mafia.
1) Gumshoe started strong townreading me when I was under heavy suspicions. He took every piece of evidence he could find to call me town.
Then, today, he decided to vote me. His excuse was "I had to go" because all of his townies were suspecting me and he couldn't waste another day of discussion.
The problem here is: he was also scumreading Onegu way before and his townreads were putting ME and ONEGU as obvious scum partners. If he thought I was town before, wouldn't it be better if he asked his townreads to vote me since, well, THEY WERE ALL SCUMREADING ONEGU AND ONEGU WAS ALREADY A COUNTER WAGON?
This makes no sense under a town perspective. If I have someone I'm at least not sure is town or mafia and if I have someone that I am scumreading since way before, who would I vote? Obviously the scum read.
The excuse that his townreads were scumreading me and that they couldn't waste more discussion on me is bullshit because his townreads were also scumreading Onegu and whoever survives from the team they've made will also have to be discussed on later days. It simply doesn't make sense.
2) When I've confronted gumshoe, he decided to respond it with an UNVOTE.
WITH. AN. UNVOTE.
Let me tell you again.
His townreads had me and onegu as mafia. He decided to vote me who he thought was town. When I confront him, he gets convinced I shouldn't be voted. But instead of going against Onegu, he UNVOTES without voting HIS OWN SCUMREAD which is SHARED WITH HIS TOWNREADS. WHY?
3) Then he decides to vote me because he didn't like my tone.
This guy is simply saying that after ALL THE EVIDENCE, after ALL THE POSTS HE QUOTED FROM ME to call me town, he thinks I am mafia out of a TONE READ. Again, why not voting Onegu?
4) When I reach majority with 5 votes, he finally decided to vote Onegu. In other words, he only votes his scumread when his former townread is dying anyways.
There is no way gumshoe isn't mafia with Onegu.
But in the case he is...
~ If ONEGU is TOWN
Then gumshoe is 100% town because there is no way he does all these scummy things with both wagons being town.
Well if gumshoe ends up being scum, he really deserves a nomination for best plays of 2015 and the win :D Don't pay attention to this but if 1G flips scum: GB and 1G are scum and Gummie is town, GB trying to cast suspicion on Gummie for some reaosn Of course this is all unflipped association that should not be paid attention to
actually that post is basically a scumclaim by GB. not that it matters; 1G is the better lynch
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:39 Chromatically wrote:
I'm here now, stay the course preferably on GB because there's 1 billion reasons in the thread why (marv and rayn both thought he was mafia too) but I would only be a little annoyed if we lynched Onegu instead.
how do marv and rayn mean we should lynch GB over 1G?
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:41 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2015 06:40 Blazinghand wrote:On October 30 2015 06:39 Chromatically wrote:
I'm here now, stay the course preferably on GB because there's 1 billion reasons in the thread why (marv and rayn both thought he was mafia too) but I would only be a little annoyed if we lynched Onegu instead. how do marv and rayn mean we should lynch GB over 1G? rayn thought Onegu was town and GB was mafia, marv thought GB was more mafia than Onegu before he stopped playing
So the theory here is that mafia shots were a straightforward attempt to keep 1G alive over GB? Isn't it possible that both 1G and GB are scum?
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:42 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2015 06:39 Blazinghand wrote:On October 30 2015 06:37 Xatalos wrote:On October 30 2015 06:32 GlowingBear wrote:
PLEASE READ
~ If ONEGU is MAFIA
Then gumshoe is 100% mafia.
1) Gumshoe started strong townreading me when I was under heavy suspicions. He took every piece of evidence he could find to call me town.
Then, today, he decided to vote me. His excuse was "I had to go" because all of his townies were suspecting me and he couldn't waste another day of discussion.
The problem here is: he was also scumreading Onegu way before and his townreads were putting ME and ONEGU as obvious scum partners. If he thought I was town before, wouldn't it be better if he asked his townreads to vote me since, well, THEY WERE ALL SCUMREADING ONEGU AND ONEGU WAS ALREADY A COUNTER WAGON?
This makes no sense under a town perspective. If I have someone I'm at least not sure is town or mafia and if I have someone that I am scumreading since way before, who would I vote? Obviously the scum read.
The excuse that his townreads were scumreading me and that they couldn't waste more discussion on me is bullshit because his townreads were also scumreading Onegu and whoever survives from the team they've made will also have to be discussed on later days. It simply doesn't make sense.
2) When I've confronted gumshoe, he decided to respond it with an UNVOTE.
WITH. AN. UNVOTE.
Let me tell you again.
His townreads had me and onegu as mafia. He decided to vote me who he thought was town. When I confront him, he gets convinced I shouldn't be voted. But instead of going against Onegu, he UNVOTES without voting HIS OWN SCUMREAD which is SHARED WITH HIS TOWNREADS. WHY?
3) Then he decides to vote me because he didn't like my tone.
This guy is simply saying that after ALL THE EVIDENCE, after ALL THE POSTS HE QUOTED FROM ME to call me town, he thinks I am mafia out of a TONE READ. Again, why not voting Onegu?
4) When I reach majority with 5 votes, he finally decided to vote Onegu. In other words, he only votes his scumread when his former townread is dying anyways.
There is no way gumshoe isn't mafia with Onegu.
But in the case he is...
~ If ONEGU is TOWN
Then gumshoe is 100% town because there is no way he does all these scummy things with both wagons being town.
Well if gumshoe ends up being scum, he really deserves a nomination for best plays of 2015 and the win :D Don't pay attention to this but if 1G flips scum: GB and 1G are scum and Gummie is town, GB trying to cast suspicion on Gummie for some reaosn Of course this is all unflipped association that should not be paid attention to The problem is: I'm talking about flipped association. Care to read what I asked you to read? Point out what is wrong on what I've brought.
yeah yeah chill out bro we're lynching 1G today anyways. Almost certainly he's gonna flip scum, and then you're gonna make some kind of asslike push on Gumshoe in an attempt to "look townie", then we lynch you and H1 and win the game
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:43 Vivax wrote:
Ritoky feels something for GB's puppy eyes 1 hour before lynch
It really is good that he voted for 1G, even if his reasons were bad.
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Blazinghand
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Oh yeah I think we all agree GB is mafia, but 1G is also mafia and we're lynching 1G first. My vote on 1G isn't me saying "GB is deffo town" or anything like that; just making that clear.
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Blazinghand
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Man, it's been a long road to this 1G lynch but we finally made it. Just stay the course, guys, no need to freak out or anything.
It's fine.
the lack of resistance is FINE. 1G is scum, and he's lurking, and he's not putting up even a token fight. This is fine. He's scum. just relax
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:45 Chromatically wrote:
W/E I guess it doesn't really matter since I'm pretty sure they're both mafia, it's just annoying since people haven't been convinced on GB for 2 days now.
If Onegu somehow flips town though I'll be upset.
I think GB is scum! I'm fine lynching him too, but I think 1G is more likely to flip scum. We'll get GB tomorrow, I promise
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:46 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2015 06:43 Blazinghand wrote:On October 30 2015 06:42 GlowingBear wrote:On October 30 2015 06:39 Blazinghand wrote:On October 30 2015 06:37 Xatalos wrote:On October 30 2015 06:32 GlowingBear wrote:
PLEASE READ
~ If ONEGU is MAFIA
Then gumshoe is 100% mafia.
1) Gumshoe started strong townreading me when I was under heavy suspicions. He took every piece of evidence he could find to call me town.
Then, today, he decided to vote me. His excuse was "I had to go" because all of his townies were suspecting me and he couldn't waste another day of discussion.
The problem here is: he was also scumreading Onegu way before and his townreads were putting ME and ONEGU as obvious scum partners. If he thought I was town before, wouldn't it be better if he asked his townreads to vote me since, well, THEY WERE ALL SCUMREADING ONEGU AND ONEGU WAS ALREADY A COUNTER WAGON?
This makes no sense under a town perspective. If I have someone I'm at least not sure is town or mafia and if I have someone that I am scumreading since way before, who would I vote? Obviously the scum read.
The excuse that his townreads were scumreading me and that they couldn't waste more discussion on me is bullshit because his townreads were also scumreading Onegu and whoever survives from the team they've made will also have to be discussed on later days. It simply doesn't make sense.
2) When I've confronted gumshoe, he decided to respond it with an UNVOTE.
WITH. AN. UNVOTE.
Let me tell you again.
His townreads had me and onegu as mafia. He decided to vote me who he thought was town. When I confront him, he gets convinced I shouldn't be voted. But instead of going against Onegu, he UNVOTES without voting HIS OWN SCUMREAD which is SHARED WITH HIS TOWNREADS. WHY?
3) Then he decides to vote me because he didn't like my tone.
This guy is simply saying that after ALL THE EVIDENCE, after ALL THE POSTS HE QUOTED FROM ME to call me town, he thinks I am mafia out of a TONE READ. Again, why not voting Onegu?
4) When I reach majority with 5 votes, he finally decided to vote Onegu. In other words, he only votes his scumread when his former townread is dying anyways.
There is no way gumshoe isn't mafia with Onegu.
But in the case he is...
~ If ONEGU is TOWN
Then gumshoe is 100% town because there is no way he does all these scummy things with both wagons being town.
Well if gumshoe ends up being scum, he really deserves a nomination for best plays of 2015 and the win :D Don't pay attention to this but if 1G flips scum: GB and 1G are scum and Gummie is town, GB trying to cast suspicion on Gummie for some reaosn Of course this is all unflipped association that should not be paid attention to The problem is: I'm talking about flipped association. Care to read what I asked you to read? Point out what is wrong on what I've brought. yeah yeah chill out bro we're lynching 1G today anyways. Almost certainly he's gonna flip scum, and then you're gonna make some kind of asslike push on Gumshoe in an attempt to "look townie", then we lynch you and H1 and win the game No, I want you to comment my case in details. Stop dismissing it.
Your case is dumb cause gumshoe is town.
"1) Gumshoe started strong townreading me when I was under heavy suspicions. He took every piece of evidence he could find to call me town.
Then, today, he decided to vote me. His excuse was "I had to go" because all of his townies were suspecting me and he couldn't waste another day of discussion.
The problem here is: he was also scumreading Onegu way before and his townreads were putting ME and ONEGU as obvious scum partners. If he thought I was town before, wouldn't it be better if he asked his townreads to vote me since, well, THEY WERE ALL SCUMREADING ONEGU AND ONEGU WAS ALREADY A COUNTER WAGON?
This makes no sense under a town perspective. If I have someone I'm at least not sure is town or mafia and if I have someone that I am scumreading since way before, who would I vote? Obviously the scum read.
The excuse that his townreads were scumreading me and that they couldn't waste more discussion on me is bullshit because his townreads were also scumreading Onegu and whoever survives from the team they've made will also have to be discussed on later days. It simply doesn't make sense.
Gumshoe townreading you at the start of the game and scumreading you now isn't strange; I did the same thing. You're scum, you jsut weren't obvious scum during the start.
2) When I've confronted gumshoe, he decided to respond it with an UNVOTE.
WITH. AN. UNVOTE.
Let me tell you again.
His townreads had me and onegu as mafia. He decided to vote me who he thought was town. When I confront him, he gets convinced I shouldn't be voted. But instead of going against Onegu, he UNVOTES without voting HIS OWN SCUMREAD which is SHARED WITH HIS TOWNREADS. WHY?
I did osmething similar about rayn (I guess) when he was raging, it made sense to me to vote him, then I unvote. I think I voted someone else later, but being surprised by something is reason enough to unvote.
3) Then he decides to vote me because he didn't like my tone.
This guy is simply saying that after ALL THE EVIDENCE, after ALL THE POSTS HE QUOTED FROM ME to call me town, he thinks I am mafia out of a TONE READ. Again, why not voting Onegu?
yeah dude he's also scumreading Onegu so I don't see the issue here
4) When I reach majority with 5 votes, he finally decided to vote Onegu. In other words, he only votes his scumread when his former townread is dying anyways.
And now onegu is getting lynched, so what's the issue
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:46 Vivax wrote:
I'm gonna be pissed if 1gu flips town.
At BH and ritoky mostly.
Oh come on dude, he's gonna flip scum. AND HYPOTHETICALLY Even if he did flip town could we reallya fford NOT to lycnh him
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:49 Onegu wrote:
Alright I am here.
So tell me why I am scum this game?
My day 1 vote? Nope I already proved I do this as town so at best it is NAI.
My day 2 vote? Nope I tried to get you guys to lynch sucm in Hopeless. Had 3 people ready to move but it wasnt enough. Who cares if I was off wagon.
Todays vote? You say I am wasting it. Well I am sick and wanted you to lynch scum in hopeless. Now I am here.
What else you got? Nothing because I am not scum I am town and you are putting yourselves in lylo.
Gumshoe no fucking way do I kill Rayn. I am going to be a lynch target no matter if rayn is in the game or not. Rayn town read me and wouldnt vote for me. You calling wifom because I could do it to make people town read me? Nope doesnt work that way I am not killing the only hope I have to not be lynched.
haha did you really come back like 10 minutes before deadline with your vote on H1 to defend yourself? are you serious? at least vote your scumbuddy GB
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Blazinghand
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On October 30 2015 06:50 Chromatically wrote:
it's pretty funny how people start playing right before they're about to be lynched
Yeah, this doesn't really make me feel better about the 1G lynch (or worse, either)... just amused. dude shoulda played the game. Now he's getting what's coming to him.
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